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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Training » Best leg strengthening exercises?
Squats and yes. Phil
| I’ve been cycling for fitness for about 15 years and have only this year gotten | into racing (triathlons). In order to get more speed and still have legs left | for the run, I feel I need to strengthen my legs. What are the most effective | weight training exercises for cycling and running? Should I be doing Squats? | Leg Presses? Leg Extensions? Lunges? Dead lifts? All of the above? | | Should I wait until the off season to really start intense weight training? | | ~~~JBM~~~
cycle up big hills – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been cycling for fitness for about 15 years and have only this year gotten into racing (triathlons). In order to get more speed and still have legs left for the run, I feel I need to strengthen my legs. What are the most effective weight training exercises for cycling and running? Should I be doing Squats? Leg Presses? Leg Extensions? Lunges? Dead lifts? All of the above? Should I wait until the off season to really start intense weight training? ~~~JBM~~~
JBM – If you go to my web site http://byrn.org you will find my winter weights program on my links page. I did that until the spring and then switched to sport specific strength work (hills, hills, hills). Good luck, gordo
What are the most effective weight training exercises for cycling and running?
Leg strength and cycling power are two different things. The physiological adaptations required to improve cycling performance are best achieved by cycling, particularly at high effort. That said I still feel (read: it’s my opinion) that strength training has its place in triathlon training. I do some weight training in the off-season just because I like weight training, not expecting that it will improve my triathlon performance. Should I be doing Squats? Leg Presses? Leg Extensions? Lunges? Dead lifts?
I like front squats and leg press. I don’t like extensions because the mechanics are different that you’d ever see in cycling (in anything, really) and it just doesn’t look natural. I mean, it looks cool and all seeing your vastus medialis all blugy and stuff, but I wouldn’t expect this to improve your biking or running. Lunges put your muscles under significant load while they’re lengthening versus while they’re shortening and I don’t know how this would translate to cycling performance. I the dead lifts are you refer to are the ones I’m familiar with, I’d say no. — Cheers, Doug "But my legs are still skinny" Fuller Before you buy.
I’ve been cycling for fitness for about 15 years and have only this year gotten into racing (triathlons). In order to get more speed and still have legs left for the run, I feel I need to strengthen my legs. What are the most effective weight training exercises for cycling and running? Should I be doing Squats? Leg Presses? Leg Extensions? Lunges? Dead lifts? All of the above? Should I wait until the off season to really start intense weight training? ~~~JBM~~~
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Ironman Triathlon » Triathaletes vs the common cold
Jean-Paul, I may be able to back up your thesis in reverse. For over 15 years I trained moderatly to hard on a regaular basis year round. For a 10 year stretch an Ironman race a year was my usual season long goal. Training weeks varied from 5 hours to 20 hours throughout the year. I would get sick from time to time. Usually in the winter during the typical cold & flu season. Normally just a head cold that would run it’s course in 5 – 7 days. During the hardest training of the year(Late spring – early summer) I don’t recall ever being sick. Then along came 1999. I year of downshifting for me on a number of fronts. Traning and racing was to be tuned down. No goals. Just take each week as it comes with a main goal of maintaining fitness and strength. What a year. In a year that saw me train probably the least I have ever trained in over 15 years, I have never been sicker. I was sick with a head cold at least 6 – 7 times last year and recently just came out of a three week bout of pneumonia. In a word it has been, brutal Now all I need to do is convince my employer, my wife, my son and perhaps even my self that training hard all the time is indeed good for my health!! Given the above evidence, maybe that is indeed the case. Steve Fleck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nearly three years ago, I was an average joe (overweight couch potato). I decided to do something about it. I started jogging a half mile with my goal being to be able to lose weight and participate in a 10k race. Well I succeded with those goals and eventually soon found triathlon. Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
No doubt about it. Most of us stay much healthier with an extremely active lifestyle. My theory is that no bugs can live in our bodies since we elevate our temperatures to fever pitch for 20 hours per week. We fry the bastards! Death to all germs and viruses! bobby – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nearly three years ago, I was an average joe (overweight couch potato). I decided to do something about it. I started jogging a half mile with my goal being to be able to lose weight and participate in a 10k race. Well I succeded with those goals and eventually soon found triathlon. Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
thanks much – I’m not a Medline junkie, but remember the tidbit as a soundbite at some time or another. As usual, the reporter missed the details, and in so doing missed the whole point. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? My guess is that you’re a fluke. To my knowledge, studies have shown that regular exercise slightly depresses the immune system, so one becomes slightly more susceptible to minor ailments like the common cold. The other health benefits far outweigh this tiny factoid, though. DISCLAIMER: This info is years old and may have since been contradicted; heck, if the scientists have been doing their jobs then it’s been contradicted and proven correct 3x over by now . . . I don’t think that it is so much that the data have been contradicted, but more that you are mis-remembering the details. Acute exercise (i.e., a single bout), especially if very prolonged and/or strenuous, does result in a temporary (less than a day) reduction in your immune response. However, chronic exercise, i.e., regularly performed training, at least up to some level, actually increases immune function. A PubMed search on "David C. Neiman" will turn up numerous articles, including some good reviews… — Andrew Coggan Before you buy.
The downside of such good health is that it makes me very casual about medical care, which is to say that I simply don’t bother with any kind of tests or check-ups. I feel more endangered by my driving (a teeny bit too fast) than any germs. Is it too late to make a couple resolutions?
How ’bout this one; ‘If it ain’t broke . . . ‘
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nearly three years ago, I was an average joe (overweight couch potato). I decided to do something about it. I started jogging a half mile with my goal being to be able to lose weight and participate in a 10k race. Well I succeded with those goals and eventually soon found triathlon. Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
Sounds like my experience as well. Until this flu season, I hadn’t had a cold for almost three years (about the time I got into serious training). However, this Y2K flu bug really knocked me for a loop for almost two weeks. Maybe we’re just two flukes! Marty
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I know that normally — I very rarely (if ever) get sick during the year. However… after every IM I’ve done, I’ve gotten sick as a dog and been laid up for weeks. Last time was IMC — I figure I picked it up on the return flight (back to Oz). My guess was that IM beats my body & immune system to a pulp, and at that point I’m basically a walking target for a virus — however, that conclusion is based on an experiment using a sample of one… — MB.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nearly three years ago, I was an average joe (overweight couch potato). I decided to do something about it. I started jogging a half mile with my goal being to be able to lose weight and participate in a 10k race. Well I succeded with those goals and eventually soon found triathlon. Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
. I’ve been going around swatting flies with hammers lately for some reason . . .
I’ve created a monster!
But I do have an occasional allergy, just to give me a human touch. Right now I’m allergic to something in my fish tanks, but it’s nothing like a cold. Ruth Kazez
so you see nothing wrong with spreading the thing around in your work environment, which happens to be a place where people may be less able to fend off such minor illnesses?
Hey Ron, do you stay at home quarantined when you have a cold? Should I perhaps call in sick for something as simple as a cold? We are chronically shortstaffed in the ER and if we all said we couldn’t come in for the sake of a cold, we would have some real problems taking care of anyone at all. Would sure like to have that luxury, and maybe society would too, to have the medical staff stay home whenever they are sick in the slighttest way. I do my best not to spread anything around. And who I was referring to earlier are the 22 year olds who have had congestion since last night and then come in the ER like we have some magic thing for them. Nope, sorry, rest and fluids, just like I try to do. No magic there. Ken
… (speaking of which, where has our resident tuba player been lately?) … He was last spotted floating over the DC metro area on cloud 9.
But the ballooning wedding budget has caused a recent loss of altitude. Rick "I chose the right place to be snowed in, though" Denney
First off, let me apologize for my overly strident tone in my last post . . . I’ve been going around swatting flies with hammers lately for some reason . . . Hey Ron, do you stay at home quarantined when you have a cold? Should I perhaps call in sick for something as simple as a cold?
IMO, yes and yes. Some people may be legitimately sick more than the standard 5 working days in a year, but it seems like most people that I know save their ’sick’ days to take as ‘mental health’ days, which is irresponsible and disrespectful to the people they work with and infect. We are chronically shortstaffed in the ER and if we all said we couldn’t come in for the sake of a cold, we would have some real problems taking care of anyone at all. Would sure like to have that luxury, and maybe society would too, to have the medical staff stay home whenever they are sick in the slighttest way. I do my best not to spread anything around. And who I was referring to earlier are the 22 year olds who have had congestion since last night and then come in the ER like we have some magic thing for them. Nope, sorry, rest and fluids, just like I try to do. No magic there. Ken
Hey – I agree that a minor cold is no reason to go to the ER. I just saw a slight disconnect between the way you said you refused to let something lay you low and then in the next paragraph complained about the patients infecting you. But, as I said, I brayed too loudly. Mea culpa. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux You’ve been pretty lucky. We’re all fit people here, but that will not stop a nasty little virus to infiltrate your immune system and do a little sabotage on your body. I do believe however, that being more fit will help you get rid of that bug a little quicker than the average person. So there *is* an advantage of being helathy after all. 
Sick days… How I wish I could take sick days. Unfortunately, I never get sick. People in my office get days off at a time and I have to work because I can’t get sick (never mind that I don’t get to use the "my car wouldn’t start" excuse because I bike to work every day). When I get the "cold" that is going around, I merely feel a little sluggish. In fact, my cure is to go to a nice, heated gym and play hoops. My main theory on this subject is that I can take more abuse from a cold from the couch jockeys I work with. What’s the flu compared to a hard 40 mile bike/8 mile run brick workout? TTFN, Ryan
Triathletes don’t allow themselves to be sick, even when they might be. Thye refuse the dastardly bugs any satisfaction in laying us low. This is unlike the regular type of person who sees a cold as a way to avoid work or exercise. "I’ve got a cold, I’m sick" they say it with pride, as a badge of honor almost. I say this from working in an ER and seeing these weenies come in with the same symtoms I might have, moaning and lamenting thier conditon (all of one or two days) while I went out riding or running and now am at work with similiar symptoms. So, that is where I encounter the damn colds and flu, from the cougher who don’t cover their mouths when I am trying to get them fixed up. Ken (tell me how you really feel,,,,,,, :)
Yes, it does appear that working out year round does minimize the number of colds. Doing IM and/or ultramarathons each year I seem to get one winter cold each year. I have "it" now and it sucks. Rock. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
The downside of such good health is that it makes me very casual about medical care, which is to say that I simply don’t bother with any kind of tests or check-ups. I feel more endangered by my driving (a teeny bit too fast) than any germs. Is it too late to make a couple resolutions?
Why worry then – you’ve been genetically blessed with a better than average immune system.
I’ve mentioned this before, but it seems appropriate to repeat under this thread. I’ve never ever in my whole life had a cold. It’s just a weird fluke. Ruth Kazez
Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with your awesome diet and healthy lifestyle. Nah, it’s just a fluke. Still, NEVER having a cold in nearly 70 years is pretty incredible even for the healthiest of souls. -hug Before you buy.
I say this from working in an ER and seeing these weenies come in with the same symtoms I might have, moaning and lamenting thier conditon (all of one or two days) while I went out riding or running and now am at work with similiar symptoms. So, that is where I encounter the damn colds and flu, from the cougher who don’t cover their mouths when I am trying to get them fixed up.
Oh – so you see nothing wrong with spreading the thing around in your work environment, which happens to be a place where people may be less able to fend off such minor illnesses? Oh yeah, you’re a stud alright. Ken (tell me how you really feel,,,,,,, :)
Just did.
I’ve mentioned this before, but it seems appropriate to repeat under this thread. I’ve never ever in my whole life had a cold. It’s just a weird fluke. No flu either. Before a big race, when others might naturally feel a bit hypochondriacal about themselves, I tend to worry about my bike’s developing some incapacitating syndrome. Days before IMH I bought expensive new wheels because I thought mine might succumb to the onslaught of wind. I knew I wasn’t going to get anything, but that doesn’t exempt me from a little free-floating anxiety about health, just not my own. The downside of such good health is that it makes me very casual about medical care, which is to say that I simply don’t bother with any kind of tests or check-ups. I feel more endangered by my driving (a teeny bit too fast) than any germs. Is it too late to make a couple resolutions? Ruth Kazez
Or maybe it is the fact that training year round you are paying closer attention to your diet and staying well hydrated with "good" fluids (OK, maybe a beer once in awhile).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? My guess is that you’re a fluke. To my knowledge, studies have shown that regular exercise slightly depresses the immune system, so one becomes slightly more susceptible to minor ailments like the common cold. The other health benefits far outweigh this tiny factoid, though. DISCLAIMER: This info is years old and may have since been contradicted; heck, if the scientists have been doing their jobs then it’s been contradicted and proven correct 3x over by now . . . I don’t think that it is so much that the data have been contradicted, but more that you are mis-remembering the details. Acute exercise (i.e., a single bout), especially if very prolonged and/or strenuous, does result in a temporary (less than a day) reduction in your immune response. However, chronic exercise, i.e., regularly performed training, at least up to some level, actually increases immune function. A PubMed search on "David C. Neiman" will turn up numerous articles, including some good reviews… — Andrew Coggan Before you buy.
… (speaking of which, where has our resident tuba player been lately?) …
He was last spotted floating over the DC metro area on cloud 9. — Stacy Hills Reston, VA
Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke?
My guess is that you’re a fluke. To my knowledge, studies have shown that regular exercise slightly depresses the immune system, so one becomes slightly more susceptible to minor ailments like the common cold. The other health benefits far outweigh this tiny factoid, though. DISCLAIMER: This info is years old and may have since been contradicted; heck, if the scientists have been doing their jobs then it’s been contradicted and proven correct 3x over by now . . .
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? My guess is that you’re a fluke. To my knowledge, studies have shown that regular exercise slightly depresses the immune system, so one becomes slightly more susceptible to minor ailments like the common cold. The other health benefits far outweigh this tiny factoid, though.
More likely is the fact that a triathlete spends less time around sick people, since, while they may go to the mall, etc., sick people generally to be found on group 50 mile rides, swiming laps, or running several miles. When a fellow triathlete does get sick, you don’t see much of them (speaking of which, where has our resident tuba player been lately?) It’s all a matter of exposure.
I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
You’ve been pretty lucky. We’re all fit people here, but that will not stop a nasty little virus to infiltrate your immune system and do a little sabotage on your body. I do believe however, that being more fit will help you get rid of that bug a little quicker than the average person. So there *is* an advantage of being helathy after all. |26 | IMC’96: 10:36:37 | Fe | IMCAL, IMC Y2K IMC’99: 10:45:03 | | "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? My guess is that you’re a fluke. To my knowledge, studies have shown that regular exercise slightly depresses the immune system, so one becomes slightly more susceptible to minor ailments like the common cold. The other health benefits far outweigh this tiny factoid, though. DISCLAIMER: This info is years old and may have since been contradicted; heck, if the scientists have been doing their jobs then it’s been contradicted and proven correct 3x over by now . . .
I don’t think that it is so much that the data have been contradicted, but more that you are mis-remembering the details. Acute exercise (i.e., a single bout), especially if very prolonged and/or strenuous, does result in a temporary (less than a day) reduction in your immune response. However, chronic exercise, i.e., regularly performed training, at least up to some level, actually increases immune function. A PubMed search on "David C. Neiman" will turn up numerous articles, including some good reviews… — Andrew Coggan Before you buy.
Nearly three years ago, I was an average joe (overweight couch potato). I decided to do something about it. I started jogging a half mile with my goal being to be able to lose weight and participate in a 10k race. Well I succeded with those goals and eventually soon found triathlon. Now, since I have been training year round for over two years, I have yet to get a cold. And I know sooner or later I will catch one. However, I used to catch a really bad cold year in and year out. I am amazed that I have not had a cold in nearly three years with this relativly "new" lifestyle that I have acquired. I was wondering if anybody else has had similar experiances, or am I a fluke? Jean-Paul Lanaux
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlete » Diet 24-48 Hours prior to an IM
Greetings, I’m signed on for my first ironman–IMC 1999–and am wondering about pre-race carbo-loading. I recall reading a thread that said something about not eating anything solid less than 24 hours prior to the race, but of course I can’t locate the thread via dejanews. I think it also talked about carbo-loading two nights before and maybe breakfast/lunch the day before but no closer because a big carbo-meal eaten later than that would not be digested and usable and may cause a sluggish feeling during the race or poor sleep. Can anyone shed light on these ideas as good sooth or folly, or on your own food regimen two days prior to an IM length event? I enjoy carbo-loading meals, but want to be sure they are really benefitting me on race day. If you don’t eat solids all day, what do you eat instead? (I have some idea of the answer, but am interested in other insights, too) CHansen
Pick up the latest issue of Triathlete magazine, they have an article on this subject you would find relevant. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings, I’m signed on for my first ironman–IMC 1999–and am wondering about pre-race carbo-loading. I recall reading a thread that said something about not eating anything solid less than 24 hours prior to the race, but of course I can’t locate the thread via dejanews. I think it also talked about carbo-loading two nights before and maybe breakfast/lunch the day before but no closer because a big carbo-meal eaten later than that would not be digested and usable and may cause a sluggish feeling during the race or poor sleep. Can anyone shed light on these ideas as good sooth or folly, or on your own food regimen two days prior to an IM length event? I enjoy carbo-loading meals, but want to be sure they are really benefitting me on race day. If you don’t eat solids all day, what do you eat instead? (I have some idea of the answer, but am interested in other insights, too) CHansen
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Training » triathlons and in line skating
I organize a few events on our club’s multi-sport calendar. I’m doing some preliminary planning for next year and would like to include skating in some races. There are a lot of people here who skate for fun and fitness but there are no events for those who would like to compete. I would especially like to include skating in a triathlon. Considering the number of people who are afraid of open water swimming, I think this could attract a lot of people to the sport. Has any one competed in a triathlon that included in line skating? What did you think? What was the response from some of the other racers? Skate/bike/run or the option of skating or swimming then bike/run. Thanks for your input, Corey Borolien Yellowknife, NT Canada
Gee thanks for placing this sensitive posting in rec.bicycle.racing. We just love promoters that cross post these types of events. As a novel idea have you ever thought of a sporting event that was "just" a bicycle race? This way the people who are afraid of an open water swim and don’t care to run would be happy. Just a thought. — Bike Doc To reply by e-mail remove {NOSPAM} from address. Absolutely no spam ,please. Opinions in news groups are for entertainment purposes only. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I organize a few events on our club’s multi-sport calendar. I’m doing some preliminary planning for next year and would like to include skating in some races. There are a lot of people here who skate for fun and fitness but there are no events for those who would like to compete. I would especially like to include skating in a triathlon. Considering the number of people who are afraid of open water swimming, I think this could attract a lot of people to the sport. Has any one competed in a triathlon that included in line skating? What did you think? What was the response from some of the other racers? Skate/bike/run or the option of skating or swimming then bike/run. Thanks for your input, Corey Borolien Yellowknife, NT Canada
Has any one competed in a triathlon that included in line skating? What did you think? What was the response from some of the other racers? Skate/bike/run or the option of skating or swimming then bike/run.
I think this a very good idea, I should not swim due to problems with my ears and really enjoy skateing, biking and running. From Europe peter
I like this idea. Most of the people would like a run bike skate. But how about a swim bike skate. or swim skate run. Or if you really don’t like the swim skate bike run. later Eddie "COOL they got a BLIMP" The TICK
Has any one competed in a triathlon that included in line skating?
We’ve held a couple of "alternative triathlons". Which consist of an in line skate, followed by a trail mountain bike then a trail run. Everyone has a blast! — Have a great day…of training!! Darrin Bartlett
I like this idea. Most of the people would like a run bike skate. But how about a swim bike skate. or swim skate run. Or if you really don’t like the swim skate bike run. later Eddie "COOL they got a BLIMP" The TICK
Two summers ago I organized a triathlon in Michigan that consisted of swimming, inline skating and mountain biking. This past summer, I organized the same event, but added a duathlon that consisted of just inline skating and mountain biking. I have received many compliments on the event and many have told me that I must continue putting on this event. However, the site that I have used the past two years (Island Lake Recreation Area in Brighton, MI) has told me that I can no longer use the rec area for this event because of safety reasons – we are not allowed to stop the traffic flow in the rec area and the mountain bike course and inline skating course crosses or uses the main roadway through the rec area. Anyway, if anyone knows of another venue that this event could take place, please let me know. I, along with the guys at Tailwind Enterprises (great race promoters), would definitely entertain the idea of traveling to some remote areas in the US to put this event on. If you have any ideas please send them my way. - Andy
Andy, How about a swim in Lake Superior, a skate to the entrance at Pictured Rocks and then a nice run/bike (up to the park service as to which they would prefer) along the trails at P.R.’s?
I’d like to see a swim in the lake, then everyone has to go up the log-slide…. This would probably destroy the slide and take hundreds of years for Ma Nature to repair, but it would be quite a spectacle……: ) I can always dream I guess…
i think that would be awesome–i don’t swin so fast but i am a 16:34 5k, and a descent biker–i also have gone 3:20 in the mile indoors(on inlines) your race suits me to a tee. have one of them in philly. — Goat Grabber The opinions expressed in the above article(s) do not necessarily reflect the opinions or beliefs of the author and/or editor and/or Goat Grabber. ALSO Goat Grabber and Ernest H. McMeans are not the same person.
Gee thanks for placing this sensitive posting in rec.bicycle.racing. We
just love promoters that cross post these types of events. As a novel idea have you ever thought of a sporting event that was "just" a bicycle race? This way the people who are afraid of an open water swim and don’t care to run would be happy.
(Gotta get a dig in here, forgive me…) I guess the original poster (Corey) doesn’t realize that just because triathlons involve riding a two-wheeled pedal powered vehicle that doesn’t qualify as a bike race with you "real" racers. Hell, in triathlon, everyone’s expected to ride their own race! Can’t even suck wheel until the last 200m sprint! What kind of a deal is that? And what’s with all that technology? Aero bars? Aero wheels? Just to make you go faster? Who needs it? (Sorry y’all, couldn’t resist. I love all bike racing, really! Except those idiots who race without helmets!) But seriously folks (OK you bike guys you can stop reading now), yes, adding inline to multisport events is a good idea. Triathlantic puts on a Run/Roll/Stride tri every year, and they allow individuals and relay teams to compete (scored separately). Check out www.triath.com for more info. Mid-Atlantic Speed and Fitness (MASF) has also been working on adding skate racing in the same venue as bike and running events – take advantage of the closed course, timing and scoring that is already set up, and appeal to another group of athletes to help spread out the costs and make the event more profitable for the organizing body. Check out our pages too (see below) Stuart Austin Mid-Atlantic Speed and Fitness http://www.netcom.com/~saustin/MASF.html
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Ironman Triathlon » Would like to RENT a FULLSUIT TRIATHLON WETSUIT
Would like to RENT a FULLSUIT TRIATHLON WETSUIT for the DONNER LAKE TRIATHLON on July 21, 1996. I’ve called a number of stores in the San Francisco Bay Area, but all are only willing to sell, not rent. Since I’m not sure how many triathlons I’ll do in my life (especially in cold enough waters to need a wetsuit, like Donner), I don’t want to buy a wetsuit. Does anyone who lives in the San Francisco Bay Area know of a place where I can rent a triathlon wetsuit? If not, is anyone willing to lend me his fullsuit triathlon wetsuit for the weekend of July 20? I think I’m an extra large since an O’Neil large and Quintana Roo large are both too tight. I would greatly appreciate any information someone can provide. My e-mail address is: Thanks, Rich Regueiro
<<Would like to RENT a FULLSUIT TRIATHLON WETSUIT for the DONNER LAKE TRIATHLON on July 21, 1996. One firm that does rent suits is Bonzai Sports out of Fairfax, VA at 703-280-2248. I’m not sure if they will ship rentals or not but they do actively rent a large number of suits. They have a good stock of QR’s and a few Ironman suits to my knowledge. Good Luck! Paul Elieff-Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits " The challenge of a thought is to make it a reality."
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Bike » Drafting isn't olympic
Is triathlon a full fledged medal event in Sydney? I was under the impression that it was a demonstration event. Jim
Triathlon is going to be the first medals presented at the 2000 Olympics. I thinnk womens event is day one and mens is day two or vice versa, definitely full medal events though. Paul Bronson Queensland, Australia
I read the other day that, for a sport to be in the olympics, it has to be practiced and popular in at least 40 countries (or something like that). Triathlon is going to be in the year 2000 olympic games, in Sydney. However, this sport, the one we made popular and widespread in those [40] countries, is made up of three stages: swim, bike *without drafting* and run. I’m not saying they shouldn’t include a swim, bike *with drafting* and run race in the olympics, but they should first make it popular and known in 40 different countries, because the triathlon we are used to is not that. Or are we willing to be in the olympics with a sport that’s not ours?
I read the other day that, for a sport to be in the olympics, it has to be practiced and popular in at least 40 countries (or something like that). Triathlon is going to be in the year 2000 olympic games, in Sydney. However, this sport, the one we made popular and widespread in those [40] countries, is made up of three stages: swim, bike *without drafting* and run. I’m not saying they shouldn’t include a swim, bike *with drafting* and run race in the olympics, but they should first make it popular and known in 40 different countries, because the triathlon we are used to is not that. Or are we willing to be in the olympics with a sport that’s not ours?
Is triathlon a full fledged medal event in Sydney? I was under the impression that it was a demonstration event. Jim
Is triathlon a full fledged medal event in Sydney? I was under the impression that it was a demonstration event.<
Triathlon is a full fledged medal sport. The Olympic folks did away with demonstration sports due to the lack of room on the program. If so, triathlon may have had its debut in Atlanta. I read the other day that, for a sport to be in the olympics, it has to be practiced and popular in at least 40 countries (or something like that). Triathlon is going to be in the year 2000 olympic games, in Sydney. However, this sport, the one we made popular and widespread in those [40] countries, is made up of three stages: swim, bike *without drafting* and run. I’m not saying they shouldn’t include a swim, bike *with drafting* and run race in the olympics, but they should first make it popular and known in 40 different countries, because the triathlon we are used to is not that. Or are we willing to be in the olympics with a sport that’s not ours?<
Very well put. Rick Margiotta
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Ironman Triathlon » Music City Tri Race Report
I did the 17th annual Music City Triathlon yesterday, and I shall offer a brief synopsis of the event to Netland. For those not familiar with the event, it is (I am told) the second-oldest triathlon in the US, with only the Kona Ironman exceeding its age. In years gone by, the race was half-Ironman length, I believe, and I know it used to have a 500 person field, complete with pros and prize money. In the last five years, the race has evolved into a small (200-250) regional race, but it is still well run and much praise goes to Mike Ramsey, race director, and his crew for putting on a good event. Race day dawned overcast and cool, with air temperature approx. 70 F. Water temperature was a tad above this, but for the first time since I began doing this race five years ago, wetsuits were allowed. Skimming the entry list, the race winners in both male and female fields were pretty obvious. Victor Perini travelled from Memphis for the race, and he has been largely untouchable this year. I personally have had the dubious honor of being beaten by enormous margins twice this year by Mr. Perini. In the women’s field, Michelle Ghert’s tiny frame loomed large over the likely results. I think she’s started running pro this year, and although she has yet to have Michellie Jones and Karen Smyers peering nervously over their shoulders, she has held her own. Even more remarkable than her triathlon prowess is the fact that Ms. Ghert has gone through medical school and is now doing her residency, all the while kicking some serious butt in triathlon world-wide. I vote to make her poster child for the sport. Anyway, Victor swam real fast (big surprise), as did Michelle, who exited the water third overall. I swam somewhat slower, right next to what ended up being the second place woman for at least 600 meters. And since the topic is current, I did try to avoid excessive body contact during the swim start, although I did swim directly over one guy, although in all fairness, I don’t think he noticed, it happened so quickly. Besides, with a wetsuit on, you just slide right off people anyway, right? I think I was 12th out of the water, pretty poor for me. My mediocre swim was due in part to my trepidation about getting on my bike. During my warm up, my new stem had loosened and allowed the bars to twist about 45 degrees out of line with the front wheel. This also had happened to me two days earlier, and now I was truly freaked out as to whether I would survive the bike leg, despite tightening the bolt as securely as possible. I briefly considered dropping out, but decided that I would ride up the first hill and turn as hard as I could onto the main road; If the stem didn’t hold, at least I would be going slowly and be close to medical help… Fortunately, the stem did hold, but I cornered very meekly during the entire bike leg anyway. I probably lost 30 seconds to a minute as a result, as the the bike leg is very twisty and rolling. On this course, it would be tough to draft, although I did see a few miscreants who looked like they were trying. I managed to catch everyone but the flying Perini, who looked to have 2-3 minutes on me at the end of the bike. Michelle Ghert was similarly dominating the women’s field. I didn’t feel too great on the run, but I did manage to hold off Don Livingston, who took third overall. Victor beat me by 4:40, but that is actually progress for me, as earlier this summer, he beat me at Tullahoma by 5:30! In any case, we’re in different worlds as far as performance goes, largely due to his superb swimming. I can bike with him, and he doesn’t out run me as badly as many do, but he and I must be doing different things in the water, because he just blithely paddles away from me. I talked with him briefly after the race ( he is also a genuinely pleasant fellow, BTW) and he’s going to Cancun to try for the age group world championship. I think he’s got a good shot at it if he has a good race. Michelle Ghert, as expected, captured first female overall with a 2:04, (Victor ran a 1:49.xx). For the four years I’ve run this race, I’ve taken a 64th, a fourth, a third, and now a second. If things go the way they usually do in triathlon, I’ll be back at 64th again next year, right? Timothy — Timothy Gotsick
I did the 17th annual Music City Triathlon yesterday, and I shall offer a brief synopsis of the event to Netland. For those not familiar with the event, it is (I am told) the second-oldest triathlon in the US, with only the Kona Ironman exceeding its age.
Great report Timothy! Bye the way the Los Alamos triathlon celebrated their 21st consecutive "birthday" last month believe it or not! For the first 19 years the race was run as a triple time trial sorta with the bike portion first, then you had to wait around for the last guy to finish, then the run event, and you guessed it , wait around for the last to finish then to the pool for a 300 yard swim. We have several of the "old" guys still around who compete every year, but only one who has participated in all 21 races. One gentleman even has a quilt made out of all 20 previous race shirts. In case anyone ever wonders what type of person came up with the idea for all of this, his name is Bill Hudson and you guessed it, he’s an ex Marine! Don’t know about Houston, but the weather is to die for here! Happy training, Mike Randow —
Newport Beach’s FIBAR advertises itself as "The Oldest Triathlon in the Continental U.S." This year will be the 18th running. But now I read Music City is older. Has anyone ever figured this out. What are the three or five oldest tris? Brian Sullivan
Newport Beach’s FIBAR advertises itself as "The Oldest Triathlon in the Continental U.S." This year will be the 18th running. But now I read Music City is older. Has anyone ever figured this out. What are the three or five oldest tris? Brian Sullivan
We just had the 21st ANNUAL Los Alamos Tri. This is the oldest. All the rest are off the back! Pat W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D. _- -_ Los Alamos National Lab -__ __- / cis: 72410,3372 /
Newport Beach’s FIBAR advertises itself as "The Oldest Triathlon in the Continental U.S." This year will be the 18th running. But now I read Music City is older. Has anyone ever figured this out. What are the three or five oldest tris? Brian Sullivan
I competed in the 1980 Human Race, and I know there was a 1979 Human Race, I’m not sure about how many before that. I also competed in a XC Ski/running/cycling race several times during the late 1970’s, if that qualifies. But Tug’s, I believe, goes back to the early/mid ’70’s. So maybe Human Race is correct if they are speaking about races still in existence. QRman
Wilkes-Barre Tri just celebrated its 14th race…gotta be up there!
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Bike » Wildflower Collegiate Correction
Guess what folks? There was a mistake in the Collegiate Competition at Wildflower.. It turns out that Cal Poly San Luis Obispo placed first. What happened, you ask? Well, they Disqualified two of our (best) triathletes and failed to talley our remaining points… Please check out the posting above for the remaining results (I don’t know what they are officially). However, I’m sure that Cal Poly did win the competition. For all you folks out there racing in the collegiate division who are not enrolled in school, be aware.. The two girls who were DQ’ed were told (wrongly) that alumni could race… That’s not correct, obviously, and rightly were disqualified… They just didn’t talley our remaining points, and just wrote us down as an incomplete team…and so we were not even considered in the results…After talking with the head dogs up there did it turn up that we should have won.. It always sucks saying to someone that in fact they did not win, but in this case, that’s the way it goes… Cal Poly San Luis Obispo placed first afterall… …Rob Connelly — __o o | Rob Connelly, Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo _ <_ .( | CP Academic Computing Services `^o_ (_)/(_) < | CP Triathlon Club, SLO Roadrunners SWIM BIKE RUN | http://www.calpoly.edu/~rconnell
| For all you folks out there racing in the collegiate division who are | not enrolled in school, be aware.. The two girls who were DQ’ed were | told (wrongly) that alumni could race… That’s not correct, obviously, Are professors eligible? They certainly are in some club sports and not in others. Just curious.
Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Bike » ITU/Drafting
Triathletes should soar as Eagles not flock like a bunch of Turkey’s. Drafting sucks!
I’d have to agree with the second point of view. I’ve never understood how making drafting legal would open the sport to greater TV coverage and greater spectator crowds. As I’ve also said before, if you want to see the "success" of draft legal races, look at the "success" of USCF road races. TV coverage of pro, or age group cycling races is next to non-existant in the US and there’s been a long thread over in rec.bicycles.racing about the failure of the USCF to increase membership in the "junior" age bracket. Point is, drafting is not going to increase participation, coverage, or spectators at triathlons or duathlons and will in all likely hood reduce participation by that large group of competitors that want to maintain the time trial aspect of the bike leg.
| | First of all, I think the drafting rule becoming legal is great. | … this will only help the sport in the long run. | This is the future of our sport. | | hmmmm….. should i wear a short or a full-length flame suit… i think | I’ll go with the full… | | pure drafting may be one possible future for the sport, but don’t call it | "our" when you propose it as inevitable/enlightened. what should be | acknowledged is that this is not a minor, cosmetic change. it makes the | sport something different altogether. I’ll reserve judgment as to whether | I’d like that ‘other’ or not, but don’t automatically assume that | drafting-legal races will be a golden highway to respect and growth. They | may lead to dramatic atrophy/attrition in other areas of the sport at the | same time. | | something to ponder: would they still call it football if in order to make | the game "interesting" and media friendly, all time-outs and pauses between | plays were eliminated a la European ‘football’? or similarly, would they | still call it soccer if you could tackle and hit? | | now where’s that silicone spray to get this flame suit off? | | Art Hutchinson | Newton, MA
Time trial = The race of truth. I think that sums it up. Dr. Todd N. Kenyon Key Biscayne, FL
First of all, I think the drafting rule becoming legal is great. … this will only help the sport in the long run. This is the future of our sport.
hmmmm….. should i wear a short or a full-length flame suit… i think I’ll go with the full… pure drafting may be one possible future for the sport, but don’t call it "our" when you propose it as inevitable/enlightened. what should be acknowledged is that this is not a minor, cosmetic change. it makes the sport something different altogether. I’ll reserve judgment as to whether I’d like that ‘other’ or not, but don’t automatically assume that drafting-legal races will be a golden highway to respect and growth. They may lead to dramatic atrophy/attrition in other areas of the sport at the same time. something to ponder: would they still call it football if in order to make the game "interesting" and media friendly, all time-outs and pauses between plays were eliminated a la European ‘football’? or similarly, would they still call it soccer if you could tackle and hit? now where’s that silicone spray to get this flame suit off? Art Hutchinson Newton, MA
First of all, I think the drafting rule becoming legal is great. Sure it will favor the strong swimmer/runner, but is riding in a paceline that easy? I think the ITU’s experimentation with this will only help the sport in the long run. We still have quite a long while until the Olympics in ‘2000. Why don’t we all keep an open mind for the sport, and see if we can’t get the beurocratic jargon worked out.. Lastly, why don’t we all stop crying over all the new rules. All the bad attitudes that have been generated over the past few years on Tri-Fed and the ITU, will only hamper the progress of our beloved sport. What we need to be doing is increasing the media coverage on our sport to let the general public know what triathlon really is. I mean, how many people really know what our sport is about? Most people still think a triathlon is something they do in Hawaii each year, that really hurts! Come on people, lets get out there and provide some good media coverage. This is the future of our sport. Lets keep the crying to a minimum….Please!! ……Ron Williams student/triathlete
first, I would like to ask how drafting helps triathlon get more exposure. In cycling the time trial (no drafting) is considered the one of the hardest points of the sport. The hour record is acheived only by one man, ie no drafting. It is true that riding in a paceline isn’t easy, but learning to ride it is easier than speeding up on your own. What would happen to triathlon if drafting was allowed would be that there would be some hierarchy of elite athletes who would dominate the sport by blocking out the new pros. The sport cannot live through a period in which no one new has a chance to win. You would also eliminate the Mike Pigg’s from the race. How or why would he solo away to victory if everyone else is sitting on his wheel? He insn’t a good enough runner to win. The only people who would have a chance are those who swim well, are respected by the other pros, and who can run away from a pack. 0 / / Why Not?
Dear Ron: I hope you are planning on racing as a Pro. Because that is the only place where I could see drafting being allowed. I do not like it and I am sure you have heard all the resons. Tactics and so on. At the Age group level it would be a nightmare with all the different levels of strength on the course at one time. More people will get hurt (crashes) in our sport than in boxing. I would probably boycott this races if not quit the sport if all where drafting legal. Let me guess Ron you are a cycling road racer . To your credit I agree with you on media coverage and attitudes comments. However, for your info Ron endurance sports are just not big in the US and I think its going to take a miracle to change that. I have an idea. How about a top notch triathlon with just 20 of the very best and send them off in 3 minute intervals just like in a time trial. Then have splits troughout to keep track of the best time at different points (cameras too) . They do this in skying and is exciting as hell. I sure see lots of skying on TV. Luis Vargas