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nice report.  with bike racing tactics are very different from a triathlon.  pace will vary more in lower categories, higher categories will be hard most/all of the time.  if you want to work hard, take pulls, etc. in a bike race, make sure it is a tactical decision that will help you potentially win the race or place well.  no-one is going to care if you blow energy here or there, and cyclists will just use you for your effort and you may end up spitting yourself out the back when the pace quickens after your aimless effort. mark

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That would be the same course, ahh, ;-( remember it well, and not fondly I might add.  Time heals all. Wayne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyway, the race, 46 miles at Mt. Sunappe Ski Area in NH, (two 23 mile laps for the cat 5) 1300 ft of climbing per lap. Is this the same course that "Time Out Productions" used for their long distance tri back in 97 and years past?  Oh yeah, there was some 13 year old kid in the race, and he only finished about 2 minutes behind me.  He had a set of Zipp 404’s on his bike, I wish my parents were so generous.  I guess he must be pretty good, but I cannot imagine racing this far can be good for a kid. The 13 yr old must have talent to hang with the big boys/girls! Kim

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Thought I would try a bike race as a last tune up before Eagleman.   Thought I would share this with you all because it is great training to do a bike race.  Pretty different from time trialing too, no aero bars allowed and drafting is a good thing. Anyway, the race, 46 miles at Mt. Sunappe Ski Area in NH, (two 23 mile laps for the cat 5) 1300 ft of climbing per lap. Race starts of pretty slow for the first five or so miles, which is relatively flat.   First big climb, I attack a bit, but it is covered and there is not too much real racing going on.  Second half of the loop there are some bigger climbs and we lose about 1/2 the field with a lot of attacking on the climbs, but I manage to stay on through the first lap. Pretty steady pace through the second lap, but everyone is always working hard on the hills, no one seems really strong.  About 40 miles in, I am pretty dead, but go off the front  just out of boredom to see if anyone feels strong.  I get away about 150 meters, but they let me go and then catch me after about a mile.  Fall off the pace a bit on the last three large hills, too tired after working to get away, and roll in about 2:01, around a minute off the leaders, about 15th place, probably 40 starters. If you can’t tell there is a lot of strategy, trying to figure out who the strong riders are, and when to go.  I kind of blew it due to impatience, or else I probably would have been in it at the line.   So why did I write this.  Well, if you really want to suffer try a bike race.  I was going to do a 30 minute run after, but I could barely walk. Unlike, good strategy in Triathlon, you can go anaerobic and then drop into the draft and recover a bit.  Hence, a much more grueling effort.  My heart rate was above 170 for the majority of the race.   Probably not for everyone, since I am a decent triathlon biker (22-23 mph pace) but I had to really work to stay with the lowest level bike racers, cat 5, but if you want to "get some" try a bike race for a workout, and to show the roadies we don’t need aerobars to go fast.   Oh yeah, there was some 13 year old kid in the race, and he only finished about 2 minutes behind me.  He had a set of Zipp 404’s on his bike, I wish my parents were so generous.  I guess he must be pretty good, but I cannot imagine racing this far can be good for a kid.

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Anyway, the race, 46 miles at Mt. Sunappe Ski Area in NH, (two 23 mile laps for the cat 5) 1300 ft of climbing per lap.

Is this the same course that "Time Out Productions" used for their long distance tri back in 97 and years past?  Oh yeah, there was some 13 year old kid in the race, and he only finished about 2 minutes behind me.  He had a set of Zipp 404’s on his bike, I wish my parents were so generous.  I guess he must be pretty good, but I cannot imagine racing this far can be good for a kid. The 13 yr old must have talent to hang with the big boys/girls!

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Toronto, Ontario, currently wondering if it will ever, ever stop snowing. Started lurking 4 months ago to get some information for a trainee who is a runner, then became assimilated myself. Krista — http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html

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Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. I’m so sick of this snow, constant snow and ice, so I am hoping to land one of two jobs so I can move far far way: one’s in Southern Germany, one’s in California! — Michelle Bester, B.Sc. M.Sc. Candidate, Dept of Earth Science University of Waterloo

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Hi Dennis ! I’m from Berlin, Germany running since fall 1999, now on the way to triathlon. I think we do share the weather with poland ;o) FLO Am Mon, 05 Mar 2001 hat Dennis geschrieben: Hi everyone, I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

– Bis dann dON gROMO (FLO) "In moments like this I wish I had listened to my mother when I was young" "What did she say ?" "I don’t known I didn’t listen !"

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        Sebring, FL (about 90 miles south of Orlando) USA.         Have been running seriously for 15 years … since I was         a junior in high school. — Keith Gemeinhart Technology Service Corp. Sebring, FL —

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england!!!!!

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Denver, CO Starting running about a year ago Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

Mark Broomfield, CO http://pages.prodigy.net/markw1

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england!!!!!

Me too. Paul

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I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from?

San Francisco, where my 11-mile run (yes, I carried water….) was done in pouring rain and 30+ mph winds.  At least the winds were at my back after the turnaround! Welcome to the group! Mike C

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Steve–I know we’ve been through this before…I grew up in Ridgewood.  Anyway, are you running the Ridgewood Run this year? Dave, now from Woodstock, NY – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ridgewood, NJ, USA.  Started running at age 25 in 1980. -S- Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

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wrote with trembling hands: Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

        Long Island, New York, bordering NYC. I began running in about 1989 whilst still a 48 year old police officer and began competing in run-bike-run duathlons around 1998. Temperature? It is dropping under 0C as I write this and we are predicted to experience a nor’easter blizzard later today. I have not been on my bike in over a month. Be thankful for your climate.         Regards,    Ken (NY) — Chairman, Department Of Redundancy Department Why doesn’t "onomatopoeia" sound like    what it is? Why do ‘tug’ boats push their barges? Why do we sing ‘Take me out to the ball    game’, when we are already there? http://www.danielfaulkner.com/ for the truth about Mumia Abu-Jamal No trees were harmed to bring you this e-Presentation…

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Gatineau, Quebec, Canada, five minutes from Ottawa Ontario. I began running in May of 1998. Regards, Bernard

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Hi, I’m french from Alps montain. I started to run from 2 months. Rudiger, did you know if there are marathon, trail or other course in Black Forest? It will be very fun to run into this forest… Matthieu – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Hi, I’m from Elzach, Black Forest, Germany and started running at summer 1999. Since Autumn of 1999 I’ve been hanging around in rr. Today we have some clouds and 6 C. The birds are just arriving back and we will have spring soon, though the best month of spring here is May. Also the days are getting longer again now. Greetings to down-under. Cheers, Rudiger — I’m GLAD I remembered to XEROX all my UNDERSHIRTS!!

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Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

The boondocks of Northern Ontario, the Canadian equivalent of beyond the black stump. Started running about 20 years ago, in defiance of genetic endowments, and have continued as health permits ever since. BobMac

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Hi Dennis: I live in Connecticut (USA). I ran in a combination of snow, rain, sleet and ice this morning. We are expecting close to two feet of snow over the next two days. Good luck with your running and enjoy the Australian weather!!! Bill

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Dallas, Tx–just started running for the first time in february at the age of 22! actually its more of a jog/walk/jog/walk/crawl…. becky

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

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I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from?

Hi, I’m from Elzach, Black Forest, Germany and started running at summer 1999. Since Autumn of 1999 I’ve been hanging around in rr. Today we have some clouds and 6 C. The birds are just arriving back and we will have spring soon, though the best month of spring here is May. Also the days are getting longer again now. Greetings to down-under. Cheers, Rudiger — I’m GLAD I remembered to XEROX all my UNDERSHIRTS!!

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Ottawa, Canada : Ice, snow and cold. Right now the roads are bare in most areas, but it can get bloody cold from the "arctic" winds we seem to experience here. the windchill has been keeping the temps between -10 and -20 C lately. Cam

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We don’t have spring here, we have two seasons – wet season and dry season. It’s the wetseason now. I run in late afternoon, could still be 29-30C at 7pm and 90% humidity. Trying to replace the lost fluids after a run becomes very important. Dennis

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Ridgewood, NJ, USA.  Started running at age 25 in 1980. -S- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

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Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

Teaneck, NJ, USA, where there’s a nasty half-inch of slush/sleet coating everything and we’re waiting for a much-hyped March blizzard to arrive for real. I started running in 1998, and started participating in this NG around the same time. Glad to hear you’re getting some benefit from rec.running, hope to hear more of your Darwinian exploits in the months ahead. — Dirk home page http://home.att.net/~da_bender/home.htm

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San Antonio, Texas.  Started running (again!) Dec. 2000. Kathryn

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Uvalde, Texas, though not originally.  Ran in High School but gave it up for 31 years, restarting seriously in the summer of 2000.  It is not "cold" here either – 22C forecast for today.  It gets cold below 15 C Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

– Regards, Dave I’d love to think that there’s an end just waiting right around the bend, but every turn’s a tunnel.        I descend I’m the running man… Edward Ka Spell and kEvin Key, The Last Man to Fly, 1991

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I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from?

Ottawa, Ontario  Canada. Started running in December 2000. Rob

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Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

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Hi, I am from Warsaw, Poland .  I can see we started running about the same time (me in September). In Poland spring is about to begin but now it is only 0-5 C. Yours 32C I will have perhaps in July. Regards, Pawel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I’ve started running in about Oct last year. I’m having fun and getting better….. slowly. I’ve been checking this newsgroup now for a couple of days, there is some good stuff and some not so good stuff on here, but it’s fun. I’m interested in finding out where everyone is from? Everyone seem to be talking about cold weather….it’s not cold here 32C. <smile I’m from Darwin in Australia. Where is everyone one else from? Dennis

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Most likely whoever wrote this is referring to the charity slots but neglected to mention that little fact.  if the IM price tag jumps from 350 to 1000 in 2 years you will see a lot of sprinters, me thinks! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can that be right?  $1000 entry fee? The entry fee to compete in the 22-year-old event is $1,000, and organizers said they would allocate 100 spots for local athletes to register. They expect to decide where they will hold the triathlon by the end of March. There are 15 Ironman races around the world. On the Net: Ironman USA: http://www.ironmanusa.com

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I’m thinking the reporter got it wrong.  Charity spots are usually $1000. They were probably talking about local slots, charity slots, etc. and the reporter misquoted and associated the $1000 statement to the general entry fee.  At least I hope so…. Chris in Utah – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can that be right?  $1000 entry fee? The entry fee to compete in the 22-year-old event is $1,000, and organizers said they would allocate 100 spots for local athletes to register. They expect to decide where they will hold the triathlon by the end of March.

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How many laps around the Arboretum would it take to do 112 miles on the bike? 8^) Todd

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I heard a rumor that Madison Wisconsin might possible be holding an Ironman distance event in the next year. Is this just a rumor? Or does anybody have any info on this? Thanks

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Whoops…looks like the SL Trib article expired so I’ve pasted the AP article here: The materials in the AP file were compiled by The Associated Press. These materials may not be republished without the express written consent of The Associated Press. February 24, 2001, Saturday, BC cycle SECTION: State and Regional; Sports News LENGTH: 330 words HEADLINE: Ironman organizers take a look at Madison DATELINE: MADISON, Wis. BODY: Ironman North America is considering Madison, Austin, Texas, and two other cities to hold its 2002 Western USA competition and to become the home of the grueling triathlon for at least five years. The competition’s organizers were in Madison on Thursday and Friday touring sites and facilities with members of the Greater Madison Convention & Visitors Bureau and other city officials. Graham Fraser, president of Ironman North American, said he would like to bring "Everest for the average person" to Madison. "Most people can’t do Everest. An Ironman is something that is obtainable," said Fraser, who is a triathlete and native of Canada. The competition consists of a 2.4-mile swim, a 112-mile biking race and a 26.2-mile marathon. At least 43 cities submitted proposals to be considered to host the triathlon, but the field has been narrowed to Madison; Bismarck, N.D.; Salt Lake City, Utah; and Austin. "Our mission with athletes is to give them a life-long dream and fulfill that," Fraser said. "They spent a year planning for Ironman – every waking hour … every sleeping hour is thinking of Ironman, so we have to deliver a top-quality class event, and to do that you have to have a community that’s going to buy into it." The event draws 1,700 athletes plus their friends, family members and trainers, Fraser said, adding that the economic impact would probably be between $10 million and $15 million. Patrick Goss, president of Wisconsin Sports Development Corp., said they would like to recruit from 3,000 to 5,000 volunteers to help athletes during the race, sell food and keep everything running smoothly. The entry fee to compete in the 22-year-old event is $1,000, and organizers said they would allocate 100 spots for local athletes to register. They expect to decide where they will hold the triathlon by the end of March. There are 15 Ironman races around the world. On the Net: Ironman USA: http://www.ironmanusa.com

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Can that be right?  $1000 entry fee? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The entry fee to compete in the 22-year-old event is $1,000, and organizers said they would allocate 100 spots for local athletes to register. They expect to decide where they will hold the triathlon by the end of March. There are 15 Ironman races around the world. On the Net: Ironman USA: http://www.ironmanusa.com

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Paul, I hunted down and met with the Utah bid director last week.  There was an AP article that came out of Madison last week after the Ironman North America staff was there checking out Madison as a possible IM venue.  Ironman North American solicited bids from 43 U.S. cities to host an new "western Ironman".  Of the bids they received, they’ve pared it down to four finalists:  Madison WI, Bismark ND, Austin TX, and Provo UT (near Salt Lake City). Here’s the newspaper Salt Lake Tribune article: http://www.sltrib.com/02252001/utah/74622.htm Ironman North America representatives have already visited Madison and Austin, and will be visiting the other sites to evaluate its potential sometime during March.  The final site should be chosen by the end of March. The site will host an Ironman event beginning in 2002 and will be under contract for five years. Chris Bowerbank USAT State of Utah Representative USAT Rocky Mountain Region – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I heard a rumor that Madison Wisconsin might possible be holding an Ironman distance event in the next year. Is this just a rumor? Or does anybody have any info on this? Thanks

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(BTW, how *do* you spell anomolously? That sure doesn’t look right.) Rick "Anomalously" Denney

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    I went to Boulder last summer to work out for a couple of weeks and the thing that I noticed the most was that my heart rate at a specific pace was about 8-10 beats per minute higher than sea level. I don’t think that it affected my endurance nor did I feel like I was sucking for air. However, Boulder is only like 5000 ft and change, but when I went hiking up in Estes Park and got up to 10,000 or so I got headaches and fatigued easier.     I would just take it easy and not do anything real hardcore like mile repeats or something. Good luck. Marcus – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi again, everyone.         I’ll be staying at 6000 ft for a week and don’t really want to stop training. Should I do anything different? I had assumed I’d just play it by ear, and expect things to be tougher, but if anyone has any words of wisdom, I’d greatly appreciate hearing them! — Amy Snyder Hale, GSR Dept of Geology & Planetary Science

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In addition to slowing down, drink extra fluids since hypohydration headaches are common.  Also the air tends to be drier at altitude so you lose more water through respiration. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    I went to Boulder last summer to work out for a couple of weeks and the thing that I noticed the most was that my heart rate at a specific pace was about 8-10 beats per minute higher than sea level. I don’t think that it affected my endurance nor did I feel like I was sucking for air. However, Boulder is only like 5000 ft and change, but when I went hiking up in Estes Park and got up to 10,000 or so I got headaches and fatigued easier.    I would just take it easy and not do anything real hardcore like mile repeats or something. Good luck. Marcus Hi again, everyone.         I’ll be staying at 6000 ft for a week and don’t really want to stop training. Should I do anything different? I had assumed I’d just play it by ear, and expect things to be tougher, but if anyone has any words of wisdom, I’d greatly appreciate hearing them! — Amy Snyder Hale, GSR Dept of Geology & Planetary Science

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Hi again, everyone.         I’ll be staying at 6000 ft for a week and don’t really want to stop training. Should I do anything different? I had assumed I’d just play it by ear, and expect things to be tougher, but if anyone has any words of wisdom, I’d greatly appreciate hearing them! — Amy Snyder Hale, GSR Dept of Geology & Planetary Science

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The first and only time I’ve been at high altitude I felt like someone was sitting on me for a day or two.  The long, windy drive up the mountain and the changing air pressure nearly caused me to black out. It’s really awkward to get breathing hard and have the oxygen not be there.  After a day or two it wasn’t too bad, but all I can say is if you’re used to being at sea level don’t expect to train anywhere near as hard as you usually do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi again, everyone.         I’ll be staying at 6000 ft for a week and don’t really want to stop training. Should I do anything different? I had assumed I’d just play it by ear, and expect things to be tougher, but if anyone has any words of wisdom, I’d greatly appreciate hearing them! — Amy Snyder Hale, GSR Dept of Geology & Planetary Science

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I regularly go up to the local mountains for Mountain Bikeing as well as the annual Big Bear Triathlon. This is allat 7000+ feet. Yes, you will definitely get winded a bit easier, but it isn’t all that bad. Just remember to keep your heart rate about 5 beats lower than you would at sea level, and avoid going anaerobic, as it takes much longer to recover. You will also feel better the second day of activity at altitude as you begin to adjust a bit. Mark Rinaldi Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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Hi again, everyone.    I’ll be staying at 6000 ft for a week and don’t really want to stop training. Should I do anything different? I had assumed I’d just play it by ear, and expect things to be tougher, but if anyone has any words of wisdom, I’d greatly appreciate hearing them!

Listen to your heart and lungs and ignore your watch. But expect the unexpected. I have run happily in Albuquerque, elevation 5000 feet (in the Valley), and miserably in Denver, elevation 5300 feet. I even ran the La Luz trail, except for the boulder-scrambling parts, which climbs from 6000 feet to 10000 feet in eight miles. Rick "But I went slowly" Denney

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Listen to your heart and lungs and ignore your watch.

I always do this anyway, since my heart rate is anomolously high for an "in shape" person. So far I think my lungs and heart do fine though I suppose if I ever want to really go to the next level I’ll have to buy a watch. Thanks for the advice! (BTW, how *do* you spell anomolously? That sure doesn’t look right.) — Amy Snyder Hale, GSR Dept of Geology & Planetary Science

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(BTW, how *do* you spell anomolously? That sure doesn’t look right.)

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I’m hoping to enter a triathlon this year (my first).  I have been intrigued by triathlons since ABC began airing the Ironman who know’s how many years ago.   I have heard a great deal of a little triathlon in Welland Ontario Canada that is supposed to be good for beginners (and is 20 minutes from my home).  Does anyone here know if the event is still run and how to get a hold of the comittee?  And if it is no longer ran does anyone know of a triathlon in the not too distant area?   Thanks alot   Larry —         Larry Ross Storm Founding member Masters of the 55 yard line                                                           Member: National Hockey League Fan Association Habitat for Humanity Niagara Web Site http://www.vaxxine.com/habitat/                    If Angelo Mosca ISN’T GOD!  He sure is close!

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Larry: Check out www.trisportcanada.com They run a number of races in southern Ontario including one in Niagara on the Lake. If you don’t mind a little travel, they also have a great event in Milton and the Guelph race is terrific with its multiple distances, huge crowds of participants and nice country roads to ride. The Welland race was a memorial fundraiser event & I can’t recall the title, but I’ll bet the Welland Chamber of Commerce can tell you if it’s still running. Hope you find & enjoy a terrific event! Aha! Found it! It used to be called The Mike Burwell Memorial Triathlon. The only info. I have dates back to 1997 when it was also a Trisport event, but it’s not on their sched. this year. You might want to also try calling Trisport in Grimsby to see if they might know. Sorry, I’ve been away from S. Ontario for a year now, so am not the most up to date!<G Paul – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m hoping to enter a triathlon this year (my first).  I have been intrigued by triathlons since ABC began airing the Ironman who know’s how many years ago.  I have heard a great deal of a little triathlon in Welland Ontario Canada that is supposed to be good for beginners (and is 20 minutes from my home).  Does anyone here know if the event is still run and how to get a hold of the comittee?  And if it is no longer ran does anyone know of a triathlon in the not too distant area?  Thanks alot  Larry —        Larry Ross Storm Founding member Masters of the 55 yard line                                                          Member: National Hockey League Fan Association Habitat for Humanity Niagara Web Site http://www.vaxxine.com/habitat/                   If Angelo Mosca ISN’T GOD!  He sure is close!

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 Craig Walton posted probably the fastest Olympic distant triathlon time in History at 1.46.13.  It was also a NON DRAFTING event.  He overcome the the cheats which were following him in a pack of over 20 riders, one of them who was DQ for crossing double lines.  This was an awesome effort and one which he should repeat in Perth in 2 weeks

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:  Craig Walton posted probably the fastest Olympic distant triathlon time in : History at 1.46.13.  It was also a NON DRAFTING event.  He overcome the the Walton actually had a time of 1:44.??.  The previous record was 1:46.??. This means very little however.  From many accounts the swim was shorter than previous years.  Another reason for such a fast time was the favourable riding weather, with very little wind early on.  His considerable riding ability also helped being probably 2mins faster then any other bike split. He still ran 33 and a bit for the 10km, cruising, though working hard enough to keep everyone 2mins behind him. Kevin Austin

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Does anyone know when and where this triathlon will be aired?

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Does anyone know when and where this triathlon will be aired?

The ggp web site (http://www.ggp.com) has a listing of when the race will be aired. So many miles to go and so little time.        | Lehigh University Therefore, I must go faster.                   | Department of Mech Eng & Mech   _           __0       o                      | Packard Lab ___o_  +   _ <,_   + <| = good night’s sleep| 19 Packard Ave ~~~~~~     (_)/_(_)     –                     | Bethlehem, PA 18015

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Try www.ggp.com for tv listings.

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There is now some online information about the 1996 Springfield Iron Horse Triathlon available at http://www.uis.edu/~edwards/ironhorse.html Please e-mail me if you have any difficulty finding it at that URL.                                                        Wendy Edwards (Anyone else finding it tough getting back in shape after a long, cold winter?)

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(Anyone else finding it tough getting back in shape after a long, cold winter?)

Yes, but it is a small price to pay to be a part of the worlds best athletes. WEB (Robert Webster) Waukegan, IL

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There is now some online information about the 1996 Springfield Iron Horse Triathlon available at http://www.uis.edu/~edwards/ironhorse.html

First of all, I think it’s great to have all these race info type web sites! I copied the following from the URL listed above:                           Ironman Qualifying Slots                 Male                            Female         Age Group       #of Slots       Age Group       #of Slots         18-24           2               18-24           1         25-29           5               25-29           2         30-34           5               30-34           2         35-39           5               35-39           2         40-44           3               40-44           1         45-49           2               45-49           1         50-54           2               50-54           1         55-59           1               55+             1         60-64           1               Pro             1         65-69           1         70-74           1         75+             1         Pro             3 My question is why do the older women have to basically compete in the 55-59 age group for the SOLE spot? Pat    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: Triathetes of DRS Sat. was the 11th annual running of the Coldwater Mini-Ironman Triathlon.  Sprint distance, 300 yds Swim, 6 mile bike, 3 mile run. The weather was better than the past week.  Sunny humid, but not WFHH, light wind.  Water temps were 80 Degs. Short Version:  Good swim, great bike, OK run.  Ended up only 1:00 min. exactly slower than last year.  Good enough for 4th out of 21 in male 40-44 age group. Longer version. Arrive about an hour early and got checked in and bike set up.  Forgot my towel so I used my new shirt from the race to put my stuff on and figured I would wipe my feet with it too.  (Oh well I have LOTS of shirts from races ) )  Looked around for friendy faces and found a few.  I introduced myself to the woman next to me as I had seen her in a number of races in the Kalamazoo area. She was doing this race not too long after having her third child.  She said she was hoping for a time close to last year, even though she had added a few (25, her figures not mine!!) extra pounds.  Then I found my friend Fred, a 67 year old guy who keeps himself in great shape.  Helped him get familar with the race and how it would go, as I have done this one 6 times now.  Fred introduced me to a woman who was about to do her first tri, just before Mrs. T’s next week(short course)!! Pre race meeting droned on as usual, then we got into the water.  The lake is real shallow so we have an in the water start, about 100 yds from shore.  Whistle, then the gun and we are off, ~ 5 min later I am climbing up the ladder, out on my way to the bike, not a bad swim!   Hop into my shoes and onto my QR and blast off.  Pass a bunch of people in the first 2 miles, hitting 27 MPH at times (this is a FLAT course folks, NO hills).  Near the turn around I see the leader hammering down the road.  I look at my watch (thanks to my aero bars, I can see my watch) and begin timing to see how far I am behind.  The turn around is a couple of side streets witch loop back on the course. They have been slurry sealed with tar and pea gravel, had to slow down so as not to crash.  I did not but others did. (  Looks like about 2 min, when I get back to the point where I saw him.  I continue to hammer and come in with a time of 14:55 for the 6 miles, ~ 24 MPH, well not to bad but on a flat course I wanted to do better. Undid my heal clips on my pedal adaptors and got ready to dismount, off the bike and into the T area, rack the bike, ditch the helmet, and I am off, less than 10 sec. for T2!!  There is a hill out of the T area and I can’t get my stride, I make the comment to the woman running next to me "Gee, I could be a triathlete if I could only run!!"  She laughs then agrees!!  We run together for the first 1.4 miles, she suffers from a side stitch and I talk to her, she says thanks for helping then takes off and leaves me in her wake!!  Temps up now and the sun feels hot!!  I feel OK, and am running somewhat better than I have in practice.  Up the final hill and hit the line in 48:16.  Damn 1 min. slower than last year!!  Oh well, actually thats not too bad.  I have had a lousy year, hamstring pull, job change at work, and the blasted summer heat and humidity, so I have not practiced like I wanted to this summer, in fact way less.  So only one min. slower is not too bad after all. Walk around for a while, chear Fred and the woman who just had a baby in and go get a dip in the lake and pack up to head for home.  But wait there is a crowd gathering near my bike, I get swamped with questions about it and I am plenty happy to talk to people about it. So I meet some nice people and in fact some from my own town.  Make plans to get together, and head for home!! What a great way to spend a Saturday morning!!! Thom Peters    Richland, MI          Swim           Bike         Run                                           ,          __0          ^/                                   ,— ____0      _ <,_        /|                                   ,—    <,      (*)/ (*)       / ^/

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Sat. was the 11th annual running of the Coldwater Mini-Ironman Triathlon.  Sprint distance, 300 yds Swim, 6 mile bike, 3 mile run. The weather was better than the past week.  Sunny humid, but not WFHH, light wind.  Water temps were 80 Degs. Short Version:  Good swim, great bike, OK run.  Ended up only 1:00 min. exactly slower than last year.  Good enough for 4th out of 21 in male 40-44 age group. Longer version. Arrive about an hour early and got checked in and bike set up.  Forgot my towel so I used my new shirt from the race to put my stuff on and figured I would wipe my feet with it too.  (Oh well I have LOTS of shirts from races ) )  Looked around for friendy faces and found a few.  I introduced myself to the woman next to me as I had seen her in a number of races in the Kalamazoo area. She was doing this race not too long after having her third child.  She said she was hoping for a time close to last year, even though she had added a few (25, her figures not mine!!) extra pounds.  Then I found my friend Fred, a 67 year old guy who keeps himself in great shape.  Helped him get familar with the race and how it would go, as I have done this one 6 times now.  Fred introduced me to a woman who was about to do her first tri, just before Mrs. T’s next week(short course)!! Pre race meeting droned on as usual, then we got into the water.  The lake is real shallow so we have an in the water start, about 100 yds from shore.  Whistle, then the gun and we are off, ~ 5 min later I am climbing up the ladder, out on my way to the bike, not a bad swim!   Hop into my shoes and onto my QR and blast off.  Pass a bunch of people in the first 2 miles, hitting 27 MPH at times (this is a FLAT course folks, NO hills).  Near the turn around I see the leader hammering down the road.  I look at my watch (thanks to my aero bars, I can see my watch) and begin timing to see how far I am behind.  The turn around is a couple of side streets witch loop back on the course. They have been slurry sealed with tar and pea gravel, had to slow down so as not to crash.  I did not but others did. (  Looks like about 2 min, when I get back to the point where I saw him.  I continue to hammer and come in with a time of 14:55 for the 6 miles, ~ 24 MPH, well not to bad but on a flat course I wanted to do better. Undid my heal clips on my pedal adaptors and got ready to dismount, off the bike and into the T area, rack the bike, ditch the helmet, and I am off, less than 10 sec. for T2!!  There is a hill out of the T area and I can’t get my stride, I make the comment to the woman running next to me "Gee, I could be a triathlete if I could only run!!"  She laughs then agrees!!  We run together for the first 1.4 miles, she suffers from a side stitch and I talk to her, she says thanks for helping then takes off and leaves me in her wake!!  Temps up now and the sun feels hot!!  I feel OK, and am running somewhat better than I have in practice.  Up the final hill and hit the line in 48:16.  Damn 1 min. slower than last year!!  Oh well, actually thats not too bad.  I have had a lousy year, hamstring pull, job change at work, and the blasted summer heat and humidity, so I have not practiced like I wanted to this summer, in fact way less.  So only one min. slower is not too bad after all. Walk around for a while, chear Fred and the woman who just had a baby in and go get a dip in the lake and pack up to head for home.  But wait there is a crowd gathering near my bike, I get swamped with questions about it and I am plenty happy to talk to people about it. So I meet some nice people and in fact some from my own town.  Make plans to get together, and head for home!! What a great way to spend a Saturday morning!!! Thom Peters    Richland, MI          Swim           Bike         Run                                           ,          __0          ^/                                   ,— ____0      _ <,_        /|                                   ,—    <,      (*)/ (*)       / ^/

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I read an article last month about Lynne Cox, the only person ever to swim from Russia to Alaska across the Bering Strait.  She swam about 6 miles (considering currents and shore conditions) in 38 degree (4 C) in about 2 hours.  She also set a world record for both men and women on her first attempt at crossing the English Channel.  She never uses grease or a wetsuit. In top condition, Cox weighs 180 pounds and is 33% body fat. She trains for cold water swims by taking progressively longer swims in cold water starting about a week before the event. (I also train this way, though I’m 7% body fat and I wear a wetsuit if it’s below 66 degrees).

I remember reading she would sleep with her bedroom window open to the freezing air to further acclimate to the cold. She (at least I think it was Lynne COx) also swam 12 mile straight of butterfly in one long crossing.  [I feel good when I make it one length of the pool 8^).] Todd Jensen                                  o AT&T Bell Labs             ___^o_    __o    <| (708) 979-1254                     _ <_    

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(I responded via email to Mr. Townsend, but I thought I’d post, too). As Ms. Roat and Mr. Townsend discovered, one eventually acclimates to cold water (assuming you don’t drown first).  I think the solution is to get in the water before the race, and swim for 5 or 10 minutes.  It hurts, it sucks, but it beats trying to get acclimated while racing! I did a race in the ocean last year, with the water around 62 degrees, with a sleeveless wetsuit and a latex cap.  The "warmup" swim almost froze my brain, but it got better.  When the race started, the water really didn’t bother me. Not to mention the fact that you can go in gradually.  Looks kinda silly dancing around with your arms up at the beginning of the race… Ken "more swimming…less biking" Lehner

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -It was a tough weekend on male egos. My wife beat me for the first time ever at the Heritage Park Tri in Kansas City – by 5 seconds. That’s what I get for floating on my back for a while during the swim. They said the water was 68 degrees, but I don’t believe that for a second. More like 60 – at best. Pretty strong winds too. It took me about 2 minutes to acclimate to the point of being able to BREATH after jumping in, then another couple of minutes to be able to swim. Between the cold, the waves, and the flailing bodies around me, I had to roll over on my back twice to calm down and start breathing again. This gave me a little time to assess the situation and decide that I could survive the challenge. Those of us without wetsuits should get a prize (for stupidity?). I didn’t get feeling back in my fingers until halfway through the bike! They were pulling people out of the water (and from UNDER the water) right and left. People were hanging on to every buoy. What a sight. I also had an interesting side-effect – I was extremely dizzy during the swim-bike transition. I ran over someone’s wet suit with my bike while I was trying to weave my way out of the transition area. Has anyone else experienced this after a COLD swim? So I survived with only a bruised ego. I did have probably the best run of my "career", which helped relieve the blow a bit. Isn’t this sport fun? And I paid THEM $30? — Harvard Townsend, Kansas State University Dept. of CIS

The World’s Toughest Triathlon in South Lake Tahoe, CA starts with a 2 mile swim in Lake Tahoe.  Temperature 55-65 degrees by August. Apparently it became such a problem with riders crashing around the transition area and along the first 5 miles of the ride that race director Charlie Lincoln now requires all swimmers to wear a wetsuit AND a neoprene cap.  The last two years that I’ve done the race, they have not had a problem. And the trouble Harvard had is not unique to any category of swimmer – slow or fast.  Last year I did the swim in 45 minutes and was 9th out of 200 out of the water.  I too experienced the same disorienting breathing problems that Harvard did.  It took about 500 yards to calm myself down and to begin swimming and breathing normally.  I thought it was stupid to have to wear a neoprene cap but I was glad to have it when all was said and done.  Now if Charlie could just figure out a way of keeping us warm on the bike when unexpected snowstorms hit the mountains in August… — Suzanne Roat Chevron Research and Technology Company         Richmond, CA                    

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