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Well, Bermuda isn’t technically Caribbean, but check out www.bta.bm for a list of all the races.  The "home events" are especially fun races, as are the Thursday night series.  The triathlon season runs through the summer, with the winter months being the running season. Cheers! Alex Pembroke, Bermuda

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re planning an island holiday this winter and was wondering if there are any triathlons in the Caribbean suitable for age groupers. Usually we go down for the scuba diving and the rum, but running a tri with the locals might be a nice diversion if this is possible.

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We’re planning an island holiday this winter and was wondering if there are any triathlons in the Caribbean suitable for age groupers. Usually we go down for the scuba diving and the rum, but running a tri with the locals might be a nice diversion if this is possible.

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hi greg, that’s a neat idea – i’m sure a caribbean triathlon is a lot of fun in any case! so out of curiosity i did a quick search and found a lot. it seems like almost every island has it’s own triathlon. here are some links i found containing more info: * St.Kitts on may 12th;  1500-40-12 http://www.stkittstriathlon.com/ * some race listings on http://www.coolrunning.com/event/carib.htm * more here (tris in anguilla, jamaica) http://www.caribbeanavenue.com/calendar/index.shtml * st croix has 2! ‘east end tri’ march 4th half ironman may 6th http://www.stcroixbike.com/vicf.htm * turks and caicos have two http://www.tcimall.tc/Calendar/ * aruba (june) http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/whatson/calendar.html * bahamas – the ‘conchman’ (september) http://xtremesp.tripod.com/wolf.html * Vincie Triathlon (St.Vincent) in february, Grenada Triathlon in april http://www.silversandstravel.com/events.htm * St.Martin/St.Maarten 750-20-5 http://www.stmaartentriathlon.org * Barbados (mid october) http://www.maintour.com/caribbean/events.htm i’m sure there’s more info, just follow the links and maybe ask google.com again. if you find out more detailed info – race dates 2002 & distances, could you maybe post it here again? and what about a r.s.t. winter training camp in the caribbean?  ;-) thanks, phil!

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I’m pulling off my cycle computer and returning it–after months of poor/no performance (that’s a hint about the brand, by the way).  I"m considering going wireless..Any suggestions or info would help.  I’m not hardcore, but I would like a cycle computer that works!   Team CWW rules!  

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cateye cordless 2 – mine has worked fine for 8 months so far. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m pulling off my cycle computer and returning it–after months of poor/no performance (that’s a hint about the brand, by the way).  I"m considering going wireless..Any suggestions or info would help.  I’m not hardcore, but I would like a cycle computer that works! Team CWW rules!

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Cordless can work well if it is hooked up right, and there is a "line of sight" between the components. I avoid them, because they can be problematic. LBS has had way too much trouble with them. Most computer problems are usually mounting problems, although I cannot speak for yours. Tim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – cateye cordless 2 – mine has worked fine for 8 months so far. I’m pulling off my cycle computer and returning it–after months of poor/no performance (that’s a hint about the brand, by the way).  I"m considering going wireless..Any suggestions or info would help.  I’m not hardcore, but I would like a cycle computer that works! Team CWW rules!

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cateye cordless 2 – mine has worked fine for 8 months so far.

What kind of fork is it mounted to?  I haven’t tried it yet, but I have a carbonaro and the LBS indicated that it would be problematic.  For starters, the mounting strap is too short.  Does anyone have more information on this? — Best wishes, Frank Before you buy.

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I have used an avocett 45tt on my mountain bike for 2 years on now on my tri bike for 8 months and I love it. super accurate and the wires do not bother me at all. maybe it would be cool to go wireless but i love my avocett. good luck Albert – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m pulling off my cycle computer and returning it–after months of poor/no performance (that’s a hint about the brand, by the way).  I"m considering going wireless..Any suggestions or info would help.  I’m not hardcore, but I would like a cycle computer that works!   Team CWW rules!  

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What kind of fork is it mounted to?  I haven’t tried it yet, but I have a carbonaro and the LBS indicated that it would be problematic.  For starters, the mounting strap is too short.

Duct tape fixes everything.

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I’ve used several of the Cat Eye computers and have been happy with all of them.  I’ve also got a specialized and another somthing. The best Cat Eye, I think, for triathlon is the Astrale since it has cadence.  I ride almost exclusively on cadence.   My Tri bike has the Shimano Flight Deck on it.  This is a cool wiz bang.  It has cadence, gear position, interval timer, lap counter in addition to the normal stuff, plus the buttons are on the shifter hood. It took me three days of riding to figure it all out.  The thing I like best is that the cadence is synthisized from the speed and gear position so that the cadence is always displayed.  This is a real nice feature when coasting downhill.  I know that if my cadence is indicating 140+, I need to upshift to join up smoothly when begining to pedal.  If your bike is Flight Deck compatable, I think this is the only way to go. MArk

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I did my first triathlon last week.  I found out quickly that pool work and open water swimming are not the same!   I must have swum 1200 meters to go 800.

practicing in the open water whenever you can could be a great help. specially for those of us who are more used to swiming in their own lane in a pool…  My question is this…how do you keep from swallowing water with all that splashing and chopping going on with the other swimmers.  I had to abandon all

you can try to start from the side where there are less people around. or wait for a short time and let the mass move on before you get started..  atleast till you get used to the mass start. my swim coaching and swim with my head out of the water.  By the way..I exited the water last.

congrads!  you finsihed and didn’t giveup..  thats the first step.                                             Half drowned in Columbus

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Yes…The Deer Creek race in the Ascinet series.

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splashing and chopping going on with the other swimmers.

With practice, you learn to automatically skip the breath when water hits your mouth. I had to abandon all my swim coaching and swim with my head out of the water.  By the way..I exited the water last.

Find a pool that’s so crowded you have to share lanes and circle, with 3-4 people or more per lane. You’ll get plenty of practice with wave action and splashing.

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I had to miss that race due to a vacation planned poorly, I had my first experiment with an ocean swim on the same day, i can say that open water swimming is completely different than pool swimming.  Somthing about not being able to see more than a few feet gives you an uneasy feeling.  I am pretty used to swimming in the waves since i swim at a crowded pool.  I am lucky if there are only 5 people in the same lane.  Dont worry about being last at the next race on the 18 i will be then one that is last. Ron C Half drowned in Columbus

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Congratulations on finishing!!! When it comes to open water swim starts… I have one suggestion for you. It is: Start in the back and off to the side of all the other swimmers. (The front of the pack is populated by people who are willing to swim over each other to get out of the water first. If you are inexperienced, don’t play that game. Start in the back. You may find that you pass people who started in front of you, because they panicked and had to slow down, while you gave yourself plenty of room, and just swam.) good luck, Gail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I did my first triathlon last week.  I found out quickly that pool work and open water swimming are not the same!   I must have swum 1200 meters to go 800.  I freaked at first in the water and hyperventilated because I got 3 mouthfuls of water at the very start. I couldn’t settle down until the field had gone on.  My question is this…how do you keep from swallowing water with all that splashing and chopping going on with the other swimmers.  I had to abandon all my swim coaching and swim with my head out of the water.  By the way..I exited the water last.                                             Half drowned in Columbus

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Hey I was there at Deer Creek and it was my first open water swim too. There was plenty of open water close to the bouy line and the water was surprisingly warm.  I’d recommend going to the outside rather than inside as I found it hard spotting the course with the bouys always straight ahead rather than off to one side.  Good luck at Maumee next week if you’re headed there!

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practicing in the open water whenever you can could be a great help. specially for those of us who are more used to swiming in their own lane in a pool…

I found that there was an Aquaerobics class at my pool on Tuesdays and Thursdays at noon. They take the first two lanes in the lap pool and the one next to them is generally empty. I tried to grab that lane when I could because some of the participants are… how can I say this…. capable of displacing large quantities of water and Marcus really got them jumping. you can try to start from the side where there are less people around. or wait for a short time and let the mass move on before you get started..  atleast till you get used to the mass start.

I concur. It’s worth swimming a few extra yards to stay out of that madness. TTFN, Ryan

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Hi,     This is probably a matter of personal preference. I notice the IM Elite full is about $100 more that the QR full. Is it really that much better. Has anyone tried both? Seems like both are the most popular brand. I dont mind spending a few extra dollars if I have to, in order to get the features that best suit me. In this case I am not sure it is necessary. Thanks Charlie

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I personally own an IM Elite.  From what I see, IM is a lot stronger than QR.  I don’t handle my IM very carefully when pulling it on (I just grab the leg piece with my long nails and pull) and so far, 1 year, have not one single tear.  Up to now, I have however not seen a single one year old QR without tears (be it small).

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Charlie: Our Elite Fullsuit is priced the same as the QR Hydrophobic Fullsuit. The suggested retail price on both suits is $325. (QR offers a fullsuit made out of Standard rubber for $75 less) We chose not to offer a fullsuit made out from Standard rubber due to the lack of flexibility. When you compare apples to apples the price on the two fullsuits are identical. We offer a two week test trial period on all of our wetsuits. This guarantee allows you decide which is better. Thanks- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,     This is probably a matter of personal preference. I notice the IM Elite full is about $100 more that the QR full. Is it really that much better. Has anyone tried both? Seems like both are the most popular brand. I dont mind spending a few extra dollars if I have to, in order to get the features that best suit me. In this case I am not sure it is necessary. Thanks Charlie

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I love Lance and his comeback and attitude, but did anyone notice that the really big names in cycling did not make the tour this year?  Riis, Jalabert, Pantani, Ullrich…to name a few.

Anyone who ever who any race only did so because the faster person didn’t show up.  The fact is that in this TDF Lance Armstrong is the strongest rider.  I don’t see the point in Monday morning quarterbacking. Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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A few questions: Aren’t the French always crying or being rude about something?  This seems to fall right in line. snip I love Lance and his comeback and attitude, but did anyone notice that the really big names in cycling did not make the tour this year?  Riis, Jalabert, Pantani, Ullrich…to name a few.  Seems that the big race this year was the Giro d’Italia.

Maybe they didn’t come because of drug testing? ( Like LVL not defending his IM title)  We will never know.  But it does not diminish Lance’s acomplishment due to their absence. Bruce Platt

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A few questions: Aren’t the French always crying or being rude about something?  This seems to fall right in line. If everyone is being tested randomly and knows the testing procedures, than it’s an equal playing field…Is that not fair? Is Lance Armstrong NOT THE MAN!!??? answer is no, he is the man! Why do most lazy Americans get excited about a bunch of geysers going around a track in a car and then ridicule a true race of endurance like the TDF? I love Lance and his comeback and attitude, but did anyone notice that the really big names in cycling did not make the tour this year?  Riis, Jalabert, Pantani, Ullrich…to name a few.  Seems that the big race this year was the Giro d’Italia. Why do you park a car in driveway and drive a car on a parkway?

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Ah, Lance. Kicking butt, taking names, and making everyone forget about the drug scandal. yes and no, there have been MANY suspicious remarks levelled against Armstrong and his performances possilby being performance enhanced. see:

I’d say there have been many jealous remarks by the French tabloids, which have even less credibility than US tabloids.  An American is leading their race. What else would you expect? Bike racing like it ought to be. And doing it with those slow, stupid American domestiques, heh, heh. i hope this is sarcasm, but even if it is sarcasm, it’s in extremely poor taste and gives proof to the truth of your signature line.

Good grief, Mark. Chill out. You have to be the ONLY person that didn’t chuckle at Rick’s dig at the European teams.  The USPS team is doing a great job and everyone knows it. It’s got to be killing the Euro’s, especially Cofidis,who wrote him off. Lance has been pretty open that he’s out to get some revenge. <snip Rick "First time I’ve followed the Tour in years" Denney yes, it shows.

What’s with the attitude?  Rick expressed thoughts similar to what a lot of us are feeling. Pride in Lance’s and the USPS team’s accomplishments and belief that he’s clean. If you’ve got some secret pipeline to the "real" truth, call one of the French tabloids. I’m sure they’ll be interested. Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman Canada ‘98 16:17:03 Great Floridian ‘99, 15:??:??

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They haven’t — Lance Armstrong’s just given the media something more interesting to talk about. — MB.

And the scandal from last year at least made all the teams aware of the rules so that they would moderate their use to avoid getting caught. If everyone is using drugs to the same moderate level, then the athletes are competitive again, and probably no more drugged than other professional athletes in other sports. That’s probably as good as we can expect. Rick "I didn’t say drugs were eliminated, just taken out of the picture" Denney

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Ah, Lance. Kicking butt, taking names, and making everyone forget about the drug scandal. yes and no, there have been MANY suspicious remarks levelled against Armstrong and his performances possilby being performance enhanced. see: from www.procycling.com

[Lots of stereotypical French anti-American crap snipped] Well, the French are rather known for being crybabies when their guys get trounced in their own race, don’t you think? And do you think their guys aren’t getting the same kind of help? So, why can’t they keep up? why does the euro press always think that a strong performance must be from doping?  If everyone or almost everyoned dopes- you still will see a strong performance from the superbly genetically gifted doped cyclist.  Conversely, if nobody doped (hah!) there would be the same superbly genetically gifted clean rider crushing all around. Armstrong almost died from cancer and is winning the Tour.  How many other riders could come back like he has- whether they’re doped to the gills or not?…  Probably zero.

That’s my point–everyone is using their drugs consistently, because the testing standards are now well known and understood. That’s the main result of last year’s scandal. And Lance’s genetic gifts and whatever enhancement he receives (probably from a hypobaric chamber) don’t diminish his accomplishments in my view. He is demonstrating extreme dedication, training, ability to suffer, and heart, whatever else he might also be demonstrating. He’s also doing it on his own terms, without the usual pro-athlete reticence. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -check out the following link about lance’s doctors and their opinion of Lance and doping possiblities/inuendo http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/sports/story.html?s=v/ap/1999… Bike racing like it ought to be. And doing it with those slow, stupid American domestiques, heh, heh. i hope this is sarcasm, but even if it is sarcasm, it’s in extremely poor taste and gives proof to the truth of your signature line.  the usps team (all americans except one in this years TdeF) has been winning the team title every single day this year, and just lost it today.  The american domestiques are doing an incredible job supporting and positioning lance so far.

Well, good taste is in the mind of the beholder. It definitely was sarcasm. I was lampooning the general opinion of American cyclists by Europeans in general, and the French in particular. I was also highlighting the point that not only was an American taking the race by storm, but doing so with an American team. That’s unprecedented. Remember the Olympics in ‘96, when Armstrong was victim to a mafia of European riders, and the Americans not strong enough to give him the team support he needed? Sure, he may have been suffering from the cancer even then, but I saw the race, and the Americans were not strong enough to enforce a winning strategy, especially against united Europeans. We’ve come a long way just since then, and that’s nothing compared to where we’ve come in the 20 years I’ve been involved in cycling. Kinda funny how the G.C. changes when the drugs are taken out of the picture. a very naive picture.  why would doping be taken out of the picture, when the really strong performance enhancers or undetectable with current drug testing methods- EPO, synthetic hemoglobin, and Human Growth Hormone- to name a few.

See my other posts. I didn’t say drugs were eliminated, just leveled to take them out of the competitiveness equation. But, doggone it, I’m getting tired of this ultra-cynical approach to everything. If everyone is taking drugs to a simialar extent, then Lance is still kicking butt on his own terms. I don’t think you are disagreeing with that, but I really can’t tell. Rick "First time I’ve followed the Tour in years" Denney yes, it shows.

Oh, please spare me. Rick "Remembering the days of Jock Boyer (only American in the Tour) and our pride at finishing 32nd or some such" Denney

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FWIW, what are the odds that Lance, having survived cancer, which must alter one’s perspective on life dramatically, putting a screwy chemical in his body for the purposes of improving his cycling.  I’m not totally sure but I think that there’s no one really knows what long term use of EPO does.  Maybe cancer, seems like every weird drug/chemical out there causes it.  It just seems too unlikely that a cancer survivor would deem cycling, albeit professional cycling, important enough to risk any further damage to his health.  Just my 2 cents, Paul

Then again, there was that question they asked some number of athletes at the 84 Olympics — "if there was a drug that would ensure your winning a gold medal but would kill you in x number of years would you take it." From what I heard, 90% (?) of the respondants said yes. I would think a professional cyclist would answwer in the same manner concerning the winning of the TDF.

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FWIW, what are the odds that Lance, having survived cancer, which must alter one’s perspective on life dramatically, putting a screwy chemical in his body for the purposes of improving his cycling.  I’m not totally sure but I think that there’s no one really knows what long term use of EPO does.  Maybe cancer, seems like every weird drug/chemical out there causes it.  It just seems too unlikely that a cancer survivor would deem cycling, albeit professional cycling, important enough to risk any further damage to his health.  Just my 2 cents, Paul

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why does the euro press always think that a strong performance must be from doping?  If everyone or almost everyoned dopes- you still will see a strong performance from the superbly genetically gifted doped cyclist.  Conversely, if nobody doped (hah!) there would be the same superbly genetically gifted clean rider crushing all around. Armstrong almost died from cancer and is winning the Tour.  How many other riders could come back like he has- whether they’re doped to the gills or not?…  Probably zero.

And why is it that if an American is leading the TdF that all drugs must have miraculously disappeared? The chances as you yourself said are low. The recovery of Lance Armstrong is indeed incredible, but there is no need here to throw away a little bit of our protective cynicism on the strength of a fairytale ending (hopefully). I will cheer if Armstrong wins, but I won’t chime in with all the rest who proclaim that the TdF and cycling has been reborn because of it. I am already cringing at the thought of a made for TV special  showing the victory over adversity ( the deal must be in the offing, mustn’t it?) Andy A Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Kinda funny how the G.C. changes when the drugs are taken out of the picture.

see this article about chris horner a pro american cyclist who has been racing in europe for the past three years.  before he left, he was racing only in the united states and was one of the winningest riders for the 1996 us cycling road season… at the time many accusations from the cycling community were speculating his probably usage of illegal performance enhancements… http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/sat/sports/news_1s10horner.html Mark Linenberg                                        o                       __o            </_                       <           __/    /o_           (()) (())           /

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Lance is THE MAN!  The guy was given a 50% chance of surviving testicular cancer less than three years ago.  Now he is in the process of literally saving cycling’s image around the world, not to mention winning the Tour, God willing. I had the pleasure of witnessing Lance’s dominating performance in the USPRO championship in Philadelphia, 1993.  The man rode like he was posessed, breaking away from the pack on the Manayunk Wall on the final lap.  It looked like the peloton was standing still when he took off.  I saw the same look of determination on his face today in the time trial.  Barring an accident, this Tour is his. I don’t know what story is more incredible, though:  Lance coming back from cancer or Greg Lemond returning to win two Tours after getting shot in the chest in a hunting accident! Go Lance!!! Greg

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just an update on the julich accident.  espn says only bruised ribs,  no broken bones. todd sandiego

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I don’t know what story is more incredible, though:  Lance coming back from cancer or Greg Lemond returning to win two Tours after getting shot in the chest in a hunting accident!

Chest? I was told he was shot in his buttocks! Dunno what’s worse.. JeeWee Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.990711164901.19303A- I just checked the news group again after awile off and I noticed the ARMSTRONG messages.  I don’t know anything about his history, but incase you are interested he kicked some serious ass today in the TT.  He won the stage by 58" putting him into overall first by 2′20"

It was amazing, the way he kicked Olano’s butt yesterday. *nodnod* If Lance survives the attacks in the Alps (that is, if the UPS team is strong enough to help him defend the jersey) there’s a good chance he’ll get the overall win. on a worse note, Julich crashed on a descnet and suffered at least a broken hip

Not that bad, happily! Nothing broken, just severely bruised. He had to retreat from the race, however. He crashed at a putative 90 kph (56 mph), I am not envying him… Cheers Jee "bored stiff on the Tour rest day" Wee Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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So what’s the scoop on Julich?  I read on ESPN that it was just bruised, but the official Le Tour web site said x-rays confirm bruised ribs and a broken hip. Inquiring mind want to know. See ya, Brad just an update on the julich accident.  espn says only bruised ribs,  no broken bones. todd sandiego

– * Brad Speierman * If you plant ice, * your gonna harvest wind. – Robert Hunter

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So what’s the scoop on Julich?  I read on ESPN that it was just bruised, but the official Le Tour web site said x-rays confirm bruised ribs and a broken hip. Inquiring mind want to know.

According to direct quotes from Julich, he has a broken left arm and three broken ribs. He slid into a curb after slipping out in a tight turn that he admits he took too fast. The first diagnosis in the local hospital declared no broken bones, but a review in a better and bigger hospital the next day revised the error. Ah, Lance. Kicking butt, taking names, and making everyone forget about the drug scandal. Bike racing like it ought to be. And doing it with those slow, stupid American domestiques, heh, heh. Kinda funny how the G.C. changes when the drugs are taken out of the picture. Rick "First time I’ve followed the Tour in years" Denney

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Kinda funny how the G.C. changes when the drugs are taken out of the picture. Rick "First time I’ve followed the Tour in years" Denney

I haven’t been paying close attention to the Tour, but I was wondering how have the drugs been taken out of the picture?  Do they have different testing rules this year? Randy

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They haven’t — Lance Armstrong’s just given the media something more interesting to talk about. — MB.

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Ah, Lance. Kicking butt, taking names, and making everyone forget about the drug scandal.

yes and no, there have been MANY suspicious remarks levelled against Armstrong and his performances possilby being performance enhanced. see: from www.procycling.com Hanging over the race today were guarded suggestions in the French press that the American’s incredible comeback has been aided by performance enhancing drugs. In L’Equipe, the sports newspaper owned by the same corporation as the Tour itself, the headline on the story about Armstrong’s win in Sestriere was headed “At two speeds,” a common metaphor in France for the effects of EPO. Liberation, the leftist daily, said the stage showed that “sports medicine continues its great march forward.” While the main headline in France Soir was a play on the French words for stupefying and doping.  No one, however, offered any director evidence or made any direct charges. Armstrong was quick to reject the suggestions. “I got here through hard work,” he said after the stage. why does the euro press always think that a strong performance must be from doping?  If everyone or almost everyoned dopes- you still will see a strong performance from the superbly genetically gifted doped cyclist.  Conversely, if nobody doped (hah!) there would be the same superbly genetically gifted clean rider crushing all around. Armstrong almost died from cancer and is winning the Tour.  How many other riders could come back like he has- whether they’re doped to the gills or not?…  Probably zero. check out the following link about lance’s doctors and their opinion of Lance and doping possiblities/inuendo http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/sports/story.html?s=v/ap/1999… Bike racing like it ought to be. And doing it with those slow, stupid American domestiques, heh, heh.

i hope this is sarcasm, but even if it is sarcasm, it’s in extremely poor taste and gives proof to the truth of your signature line.  the usps team (all americans except one in this years TdeF) has been winning the team title every single day this year, and just lost it today.  The american domestiques are doing an incredible job supporting and positioning lance so far. Kinda funny how the G.C. changes when the drugs are taken out of the picture.

a very naive picture.  why would doping be taken out of the picture, when the really strong performance enhancers or undetectable with current drug testing methods- EPO, synthetic hemoglobin, and Human Growth Hormone- to name a few. Rick "First time I’ve followed the Tour in years" Denney

yes, it shows. Mark Linenberg                                        o                       __o            </_                       <           __/    /o_           (()) (())           /

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I have a friend in Austin who used to bag groceries with him when they were teenagers. He said he could tell Lance’s heart just wasn’t in the grocery store business. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lance is THE MAN!  The guy was given a 50% chance of surviving testicular cancer less than three years ago.  Now he is in the process of literally saving cycling’s image around the world, not to mention winning the Tour, God willing. I had the pleasure of witnessing Lance’s dominating performance in the USPRO championship in Philadelphia, 1993.  The man rode like he was posessed, breaking away from the pack on the Manayunk Wall on the final lap.  It looked like the peloton was standing still when he took off.  I saw the same look of determination on his face today in the time trial.  Barring an accident, this Tour is his. I don’t know what story is more incredible, though:  Lance coming back from cancer or Greg Lemond returning to win two Tours after getting shot in the chest in a hunting accident! Go Lance!!! Greg

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I just checked the news group again after awile off and I noticed the ARMSTRONG messages.  I don’t know anything about his history, but incase you are interested he kicked some serious ass today in the TT.  He won the stage by 58" putting him into overall first by 2′20" While I’m at it the UPS team increased their lead today to 1′51" on a worse note, Julich crashed on a descnet and suffered at least a broken hip  happy training,    Ben

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So is it really faster to have shoes already clipped in ?

I prefer to swim with my shoes on. Diane

adrian

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I prefer to swim with my shoes on. adrian

Don’t tell QRman or he’ll be selling  wet suit booties with built in cycling clips. BeBopBooties. Dan

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I am always incredibly impressed to see the acrobatics performed by some triathletes in the swim to bike transition. I’m talking about jumping onto a bike with shoes already clipped in.  I’ve tried to practice this type of heroics but have always failed miserably. It takes me a couple of seconds to get my shoes on, then I can start to peddle hard from the off. With shoes already clipped in, although moving from the start,  you can’t peddle hard until you get your feet in. So is it really faster to have shoes already clipped in ?   Diane

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Diane Wynne  says… I am always incredibly impressed to see the acrobatics performed by some triathletes in the swim to bike transition. I’m talking about jumping onto a bike with shoes already clipped in.  I’ve tried to practice this type of heroics but have always failed miserably. It takes me a couple of seconds to get my shoes on, then I can start to peddle hard from the off. With shoes already clipped in, although moving from the start,  you can’t peddle hard until you get your feet in. So is it really faster to have shoes already clipped in ?   Diane

Generally Yes. Because its faster to run in bare feet than it is to run in cycling shoes and because the bike is moving while you’re slipping your feet into your cycling shoes.  Of course if it take you too long to get into them then you’ve lost any advantage you may have.   Of course if you’re racing for fun then it doesn’t matter.  Personally I put socks and cycling shoes on in the transition area because I’m actually faster that way. AJ — If swimming is so good for the figure, explain whales Simon Haigh Illawarra Triathlon Club – Australia http://queene.epsb.edmonton.ab.ca/itc      

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Is is faster? — if done right yes — but it’s easy to lose time. Does it really matter? — for the most part, probably not. And certainly, the longer the race, the less it matters. If memory serves me,  Paula Newby-Fraser, Wendy Ingram and Sian Welch are all with you on this. — MB. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am always incredibly impressed to see the acrobatics performed by some triathletes in the swim to bike transition. I’m talking about jumping onto a bike with shoes already clipped in.  I’ve tried to practice this type of heroics but have always failed miserably. It takes me a couple of seconds to get my shoes on, then I can start to peddle hard from the off. With shoes already clipped in, although moving from the start,  you can’t peddle hard until you get your feet in. So is it really faster to have shoes already clipped in ? Diane

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please help, I need the top ten finishers for the im1981. (especially number 9) thanks Rob

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please help, I need the top ten finishers for the im1981. (especially number 9) thanks Rob

Men John Howard 9.38 Tom Warren 10.04 Scott Tinley 10.12 Thomas Boughey 10.23 Dennis Hansen 10.26 Dante Dettamanti 10.29 James Butterfield 10.31 Jonathon Durst 10.34 Conrad Kress 10.38 Ronal Krueper 10.39 Women Linda Sweeney 12.00 Sally Edwards 12.37 Carolyn Brooks 12.42 Cynthia Marks 13.00 Kika Walker 13.33 Nancy Kummen 13.34 Georgia Gatch 14.21 Carol Le Plant 14.24 Christa Obara 14.44 Patricia Specht 14.50 Dont you wish you were racing in 1981 ??? Ross

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – please help, I need the top ten finishers for the im1981. (especially number 9) thanks Rob I seem to remember that Triathlon Mag did a full history of the IMH including the top finishers for each year (although I don’t know how far down the list they wert).  Can’t remember exactly which issue, but it was probably around September or October of 1997. John Hall

The historical results can be found at the site: http://home1.gte.net/aesoft/results/ironman/history.html which I found on the JTL timing systems webpage: http://home1.gte.net/aesoft/results/ironman/ironman.html Also of possible interest, one can find a history at: http://www.sportsline.com/u/ironman/history/ Signed,         TriWebJunky — Mark E. Johnson, IMC97 Inst. for Math. and its Applications U. of Minnesota, Minneapolis http://www.ima.umn.edu/~mjohnson

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I went for my first long swim in salt water today, and I felt a sick to my stomach when I was through. I didn’t think I had swallowed *that* much salt water, but I’m still working under the assumption that this was the cause. Aside from trying to NOT swallow salt water, does anyone have any solutions as to what to eat or take beforehand (or after) to counter the affects of the salt water? Thanks!

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I went for my first long swim in salt water today, and I felt a sick to my stomach when I was through. I didn’t think I had swallowed *that* much salt water, but I’m still working under the assumption that this was the cause. Aside from trying to NOT swallow salt water, does anyone have any solutions as to what to eat or take beforehand (or after) to counter the affects of the salt water? Thanks!

I had the same problem surfing with my husband for the first time.  I found the salty feeling in my mouth made me feel at first really thirsty (I was having way too much fun to go in).  I went golfing afterward and almost tossed my cookies – I think I was just a little dehydrated, which might be your case as well.  The next time I went out, I didn’t have a problem, and I stayed out longer.  I concentrated on looking at a fixed object every so often (the end of a pier) Also, more than one person has been known to toss his cookies in the Chesapeake Bay swim in MD, due to seasickness.  The problem with swimming that you don’t have with surfing (unless the waves are really high), is that you can’t really keep a fixed object in your sight, and the waves really toss you around more than you can tell.  Try going out again fully hydrated and with not too much food in your stomach.  Look up (a la triathlon swim) every so often toward a stationary object.  If you aren’t one to get seasick (I have a cast iron stomach myself) you’ll probobly be okay.  If you’re still nauseous, try dramamine.  I’ve heard from my husband (who surfs and swims in open water with no problem, but tossed his cookies last year on the largest Cruiseship in the world – go figure) that it works.

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 If you aren’t one to get seasick (I have a cast iron stomach myself) you’ll probobly be okay.  If you’re still nauseous, try dramamine.  

Just a precaution: dramamine can make many people very drowsy-do not take before the swim. The product says it is not as effective if taken after you get nauseous,but take it from someone who gets motion sickness very easily-it is the only thing that will relieve you from that misery. Also, when I started rolling from side to side more in my swims-I seem to be able to reduce the sea-sickness more. (?) Regards, Lee Rudin San Francisco Bay Area Triathlon Training Sites http://www.slip.net/~leeway/

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The problem with dramamine is that it can make you sleep on the spot. When I take it to go fishing, I don’t catch anything, because I spend my day in dreamland. I would consider that a problem if your in the midst of a triathlon ( people WILL notice if you’re sleeping on your bike)

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I also do limited bike riding and swimming laps but should I be focusing on just doing the distance or building endurance?   Sorry to throw out so many questions all at once.  Thanks in advance for your input.

You should keep the cross training as part of your routine.  Also your goal sounds very reasonable.  Also all of Mike Tennent’s advice is excellent.  I would add that one of your primary goals through the race should be to have fun and be good to yourself. Please keep us posted on your progress.  Good luck. Lisa Ciolino

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I’m a 5k racer and the best way to prepare for the 5k is through hard intense training.  Marathoners and 10kers need more long slow training, but the 5k is too short to train like that.  Do a LOT OF SPEEDWORK. Sprints, hills, stadium steps, 220s 440s and 880s done 2-3 times a week WILL DRASITICALLY BRING DOWN YOUR TIME.  On your easy days go ahead and run slow and long.  YOU DO NOT NEED A STRONG AEROBIC BASE FOR THE 5K.  Raw Army and Marine recruits can usually do a 5K in 18:00-20:00 minutes after only about 9 weeks of training.  Also try and add some weightlifting.  It will strenghten the legs, which is needed for the 5K.  REMEMBER: INTENSE SPEEDWORK.  

Good grief. I hope you didn’t do that on purpose. The question was from a beginner who isn’t close to trying any kind of speedwork. Your "advice" is downright dangerous and way out of line for that level runner. I’ll assume you misread or misinterpreted the post. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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I’m a 5k racer and the best way to prepare for the 5k is through hard intense training.  Marathoners and 10kers need more long slow training, but the 5k is too short to train like that.  Do a LOT OF SPEEDWORK. Sprints, hills, stadium steps, 220s 440s and 880s done 2-3 times a week WILL DRASITICALLY BRING DOWN YOUR TIME.  On your easy days go ahead and run slow and long.  YOU DO NOT NEED A STRONG AEROBIC BASE FOR THE 5K.  Raw Army and Marine recruits can usually do a 5K in 18:00-20:00 minutes after only about 9 weeks of training.  Also try and add some weightlifting.  It will strenghten the legs, which is needed for the 5K.  REMEMBER: INTENSE SPEEDWORK.  

I agree with MMARQ {I was not sure I ever would }, but (there is always a "but), establish a strong aerobic base and fitness level BEFORE adding speedwork. Speedwork can be very draining on newbies and can be a turn off.  I think that adding speed too fast(before a good base is developed) may lead to an increased risk of injury. Since the person is just beginning, he/she will get faster just by running. without the speedwork. 5000m runners train much like milers these days;  the weight training is good for overall fitness and delaying the loss of lean muscle mass later in life.

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I recently started wallking/running with a pace of about 14 minutes per mile about 2-3 times a week on a treadmill.  I realize this is pretty slow but I’m intrigued by the idea of becoming good enough (assuming I don’t loose interest) to run in a 5K race and finishing with a reasonably good time, maybe in the 36 – 40 minutes range??  With that in mind I guess I have 2 questions. 1) How many months or weeks should I plan to train for something like this?    Could I be ready for this near the end of May or should I expect it to take    longer??    I think that you can be ready to run by the end ofMay

        since you are taking it slow.  See if you can do a 5 minute jog         alternated with a 5 minute walk for 30 minutes and work up to running for the 30 minutes.         IMHO, it is more important to get out there and participate, especaially          early in your running career than it is to worry about time.         Since you did not state your age,I would suggest if you ahve not been active in a while, consult with a doctor before anything strenuous. 2)  I notice lots of questions posted about marathon training and suggestions for     books to look at for marathon training but I don’t see anything for smaller     length races.  Should I look at marathon training books and just scale the suggestions/times appropriately?

          Ignore the marathon stuff.  Check out past issues of Runner’s World that often have plans for first races.  I think that if you can run 2 miles in training without too much difficulty, you can FINISH a 5K. I also do limited bike riding and swimming laps but should I be focusing on just doing the distance or building endurance?   Sorry to throw out so many questions all at once.  Thanks in advance for your input.

Cross training is great for overall fitness and, IMHO, for keeping most people feeling fresh and excited about exercise.  The rule of specificity states that to become a better runner, you need to run.  If it is not causing too much strain on your body, mind and personal life keep doing all three. Good luck and let us know how you are doing and how the race goes. I for one like to hear about new runners getting hooked!

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I recently started wallking/running with a pace of about 14 minutes per mile about 2-3 times a week on a treadmill.  I realize this is pretty slow but I’m intrigued by the idea of becoming good enough (assuming I don’t loose interest) to run in a 5K race and finishing with a reasonably good time, maybe in the 36 – 40 minutes range??  With that in mind I guess I have 2 questions. 1) How many months or weeks should I plan to train for something like this?    Could I be ready for this near the end of May or should I expect it to take    longer?? 2)  I notice lots of questions posted about marathon training and suggestions for     books to look at for marathon training but I don’t see anything for smaller     length races.  Should I look at marathon training books and just scale the suggestions/times appropriately? I also do limited bike riding and swimming laps but should I be focusing on just doing the distance or building endurance?   Sorry to throw out so many questions all at once.  Thanks in advance for your input.

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I recently started wallking/running with a pace of about 14 minutes per mile about 2-3 times a week on a treadmill.  I realize this is pretty slow but I’m intrigued by the idea of becoming good enough (assuming I don’t loose interest) to run in a 5K race and finishing with a reasonably good time, maybe in the 36 – 40 minutes range??  With that in mind I guess I have 2 questions. 1) How many months or weeks should I plan to train for something like this?   Could I be ready for this near the end of May or should I expect it to take   longer??

Your goal sounds pretty reasonable. You didn’t mention how long your present treadmill workouts were… If you can get them up to 30 minutes each – all jogging, you’ll have no problem. You’ll definitely have to get out on the road, tho. (I assume you’re inside waiting for good weather.) The classic method for beginning running is the jog/walk method. Jog til you’re out of breath, then walk til recovered, then jog again, repeat. Rest a day, do again. Work these up gradually over a few weeks until you’re jogging the whole time, with each workout finally reaching 30 minutes in length. 2)  I notice lots of questions posted about marathon training and suggestions for    books to look at for marathon training but I don’t see anything for smaller    length races.  Should I look at marathon training books and just scale the suggestions/times appropriately?

I have a "New Runner’s" section on my web page with a FAQ and links to some good sites. Don’t try to scale a marathon schedule down. There are specific ones out there. I also do limited bike riding and swimming laps but should I be focusing on just doing the distance or building endurance?  

By all means, continue the cross training on your non-running days. Who knows, maybe a triathlon is in there somewhere? Sorry to throw out so many questions all at once.  Thanks in advance for your input.

No apology needed, they were very good questions. Let us know how you do. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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I recently started wallking/running with a pace of about 14 minutes per mile about 2-3 times a week on a treadmill.  I realize this is pretty slow but I’m intrigued by the idea of becoming good enough (assuming I don’t loose interest) to run in a 5K race and finishing with a reasonably good time,

maybe in the 36 – 40 minutes range??  With that in mind I guess I have 2 questions. 1) How many months or weeks should I plan to train for something like this?    Could I be ready for this near the end of May or should I expect it

to take longer?? Once a weekend go out and walk a 5 K (3.1 miles).  At a 15 min place that’s about 45+ minutes.  Now you can play with the 5 K by each weekend, running a little until you need to walk…or walk with a few minutes of running in between.  That way you are not worried about the race.  I would use the 5K race as a time when you get to see where you are on that day. It’s a nice way to measure yourself without getting caught up in improving to to point of mentally or physically injuring yourself…i.e.  running to help live life more fully. 2)  I notice lots of questions posted about marathon training and

suggestions for books to look at for marathon training but I don’t see anything for smaller length races.  Should I look at marathon training books and just scale

the suggestions/times appropriately? Get some of George Sheehan’s books on running.  They’ll help you keep on running as part of your lifestyle Some other random books:  Running and Racing After 35: Allan Lawrence and Mark Scheid Complete guide to Running Jim Alford et al; Jog, Run, Race by Joe Henderson; Galloway’s Book on Running by Jeff Galloway. These are a few of the many. I’d go to a used book store and find some there…even Jim Fixx’s book is good I also do limited bike riding and swimming laps but should I be focusing on just doing the distance or building endurance?   Sorry to throw out so

many questions all at once.  Thanks in advance for your input. If you are cross training, then I’d imagine that you can do the distance already.  Actually you know you can walk the distance.  The issue is getting faster and enjoying the ride, ummmmmm "run." — In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer-rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,  est. 1975

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I’m a 5k racer and the best way to prepare for the 5k is through hard intense training.  Marathoners and 10kers need more long slow training, but the 5k is too short to train like that.  Do a LOT OF SPEEDWORK. Sprints, hills, stadium steps, 220s 440s and 880s done 2-3 times a week WILL DRASITICALLY BRING DOWN YOUR TIME.  On your easy days go ahead and run slow and long.  YOU DO NOT NEED A STRONG AEROBIC BASE FOR THE 5K.  Raw Army and Marine recruits can usually do a 5K in 18:00-20:00 minutes after only about 9 weeks of training.  Also try and add some weightlifting.  It will strenghten the legs, which is needed for the 5K.  REMEMBER: INTENSE SPEEDWORK.  

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Okay, time to see if the Net can help me with another project. For an adaptive P.E. class, I’m writing a paper on differently abled (or whatever the PC term is this week…I like this term) endurance athletes. I’ve only been able to find one article on Jim McLaren (my school’s library caries no triathlon mags), and a scattering of articles on others in road racing. If anybody knows of some sources, please e-mail me. Better yet, if there are any differently abled athletes on this newsgroup, e-mail me…I’d love to talk (okay, type) to you. Thanks in advanvce for any help. Jonathan Acey Albert University of Florida

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For an adaptive P.E. class, I’m writing a paper on differently abled (or whatever the PC term is this week…I like this term) endurance athletes.

I don’t have any articles to refer you to, but the TV coverage of the ‘94 Ironman included Dr. Jon Franks, a wheelchair athlete, declining an offer to continue after missing the bike cutoff time.  This was his first Ironman, since it took him several years to persuade the race officials to waive their normal qualifying procedures. I met Franks last year at the Gulf Coast Triathlon (1/2 iron) last year, and at the Cape Cod triathlon (int’l distance) several years ago.  He swims backstroke with special leg flotation, and rides a custom made hand-cranked tricycle.  He typically swims mid to back of the pack, bikes 18 MPH, and runs about 5:00/mile.  At Gulf Coast, he DNF’ed about half way through the run with a broken wheel. Wheelchair athletes are rare in triathlons, though I have often seen athletes compete with an artificial leg. #include "disclaimer.h"                |____|

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