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Does anyone know of good source for timex speed distance watch.  It is $225 retail and I’m looking for better deal. thanks in advance david

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I found it somewhere for $129.95, but reading your question three times made me forget where. Oh well…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know of good source for timex speed distance watch.  It is $225 retail and I’m looking for better deal. thanks in advance david

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www.alsgiftshoppe.com Attempting to keep the knee cartilage intact!

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With SPAM? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – www.alsgiftshoppe.com Attempting to keep the knee cartilage intact!

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Whups, I take that back! I just saw that you actually do carry the watch, and at a very reasonable price! When I first looked I didn’t see any reference to timex sport watches. My bad! Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With SPAM? www.alsgiftshoppe.com Attempting to keep the knee cartilage intact!

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Whups, I take that back! I just saw that you actually do carry the watch, and at a very reasonable price! When I first looked I didn’t see any reference to timex sport watches. My bad!

Your bad _what_?

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| Whups, I take that back! I just saw that you actually do carry the | watch, and at a very reasonable price! When I first looked I didn’t see | any reference to timex sport watches. My bad! | | Your bad _what_? | | Oh you English always giving Americans grief about our slang and our mis-use of the language. As if you lot never speak or write in a manner that wouldn’t be fitting before the Queen! stacy hills reston, va

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | Whups, I take that back! I just saw that you actually do carry the | watch, and at a very reasonable price! When I first looked I didn’t see | any reference to timex sport watches. My bad! | | Your bad _what_? | Oh you English always giving Americans grief about our slang and our mis-use of the language. As if you lot never speak or write in a manner that wouldn’t be fitting before the Queen!

Sorry, Goddess babe! Mark M PS  I was born Danish….

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Hi, I have them for sale at $195 for the 100 lap model a pretty decent savings.  go to http://www.timexstore.com and check them out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know of good source for timex speed distance watch.  It is $225 retail and I’m looking for better deal. thanks in advance david

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Mark M wrote…

| | PS  I was born Danish…. | How interesting…a mad, Hamlet triathlete! My mother’s maiden name is Jorgensen. stacy hills reston, va

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Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts.  Your real life experiences would be appreciated. -Scott V N5271L

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Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts.  Your real life experiences would be appreciated.

     Did one.  Plane did NOT flip over, floated for about three minutes.  Later heard we should have opened doors in the event the fuselage "warped" and jammed doors shut.  Opened the doors after we were in water.      Lou.

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Aviation writer Amy Laboda ditched her 210 off Key West earlier this year. Did not flip, everyone got out fine. It was covered in most aviation magazines (although she has not written an article about it yet that I am aware of). Bob Gardner

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Go to equipped.com or maybe it is a .org. They have a couple stories of ditching along with common myths explained. Tyson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aviation writer Amy Laboda ditched her 210 off Key West earlier this year. Did not flip, everyone got out fine. It was covered in most aviation magazines (although she has not written an article about it yet that I am aware of). Bob Gardner Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts. Your real life experiences would be appreciated. -Scott V N5271L

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Thanks, I’ll check that out. -Scott

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Go to equipped.com or maybe it is a .org. They have a couple stories of ditching along with common myths explained. Tyson Aviation writer Amy Laboda ditched her 210 off Key West earlier this year. Did not flip, everyone got out fine. It was covered in most aviation magazines (although she has not written an article about it yet that I am aware of). Bob Gardner Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts. Your real life experiences would be appreciated. -Scott V N5271L

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     4.  Believe there was a Pan-Am Connie that ditched in the Atlantic off the coast of Newfoundland.  This was prior to 1950.  The Connie remained afloat for a couple days before the Coast Guard advised the Airline that the plane would have to be towed away or they would use it for deck gun practice as it was a "Hazard to Navigation".

I have heard a similar story about a Falcon 20 which ditched off the coast of iceland. As I heard it, the Royal Navy had to sink it, to prevent it becoming a hazard to navigation. Don

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changed my approach to the subject.  As one who flies over Lake Michigan frequently, I’m now more likely to aim for the water just off the shore rather than try to land on a rough or rocky beach.

When flying up the coastline (we used to live in Racine, WI, and made this trip often), especially up and across the Door Peninsula, and over to Mackinac Island, your ONLY option would be to ditch just off-shore. It’s either that, or onto the rocks, or into 75 foot tall trees… It always amazed me how ROUGH the engine would sound when over-flying such inhospitable terrain!  :) — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Warrior N33431

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Scott, "equipped.org" has the best information around on ditching. Approximately 89% of all ditchings, whether fixed or retractable gear airplanes involve all aboard the airplane getting out successfully. The success rate does not seem to be affected by whether the airplane has fixed or retractable gear.  

     A number of successful ditchings come to mind:      1.  Prior to 1950, Captain Ogg (don’t recall if it was Pan-Am or not) ditched a StratoCruiser alongside an Ocean Station Vessel.  Vessel was just about due west of L.A. and at about 130 or 135 West Longitude.      No major injuries, everyone got out of the plane and were aboard the OSV within minutes.  Can’t remember what the cause was.      2.  Northwest DC-7 was ditched offshore from Sitka, Alaska.  They had had 3 runaway engines and the Captain put the plane down near a Coast Guard Cutter that had been sent out from Sitka, AK.  All passengers and crew were aboard the Coast Guard Cutter within about 10 minutes after the plane hit the water.      Only injury was a woman wrenched her back stepping from the plane to the life raft.      3.  Either late 50’s or early 60’s, Air Force ditched a C124 in Cook Inlet near Anchorage.  He had been flying in ground effect; got to the Anchorage area and could not climb the 3- or 4-hundred feet to clear the bluffs and land at either Anchorage International or Elmendorf AFB      4.  Believe there was a Pan-Am Connie that ditched in the Atlantic off the coast of Newfoundland.  This was prior to 1950.  The Connie remained afloat for a couple days before the Coast Guard advised the Airline that the plane would have to be towed away or they would use it for deck gun practice as it was a "Hazard to Navigation".      Lou.

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Try this story: http://www.clamback-hennessy.com.au/triathalon.htm

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A non-pilot friend of mine was in a plane that went down off the coast of Maine. It was a charter flight to Nova Scotia to pick up a boat that had been left there. In the front seat were the guy who’d organized the flight, in his 60s, at the controls. Beside him was the pilot-owner, in his 40s. In back were the owner’s wife, my friend (50s), and another sailor in his 60s or 70s. The engine went out and the windshield was covered with oil. The owner directed the guy at the controls to make for shore, and eventually for boats he could see, while he instructed the others to half-inflate their life vests and to open the doors just before the plane hit. I don’t know what type a/c it was, but I’m reasonably sure it was a low-wing, retractable-gear plane. It sank immediately. My friend went out the door, followed by the owner’s wife. The plane’s owner also got out. They were rescued almost immediately by the crew of a luxury power boat nearby. Survival in this case was strictly by age: the three people under 60 got out, the two men over 60 did not. Or you might figure that the two people closely involved with the airplane got out, plus my friend, who is stocky & able, the type you would expect to survive a bad experience. see the Warbird’s Forum at http://danford.net and message board at http://forums.delphi.com/annals/start/

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Scott, "equipped.org" has the best information around on ditching. Approximately 89% of all ditchings, whether fixed or retractable gear airplanes involve all aboard the airplane getting out successfully. The success rate does not seem to be affected by whether the airplane has fixed or retractable gear.  After reading that material, I’ve changed my approach to the subject.  As one who flies over Lake Michigan frequently, I’m now more likely to aim for the water just off the shore rather than try to land on a rough or rocky beach. All the best, Rick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts.  Your real life experiences would be appreciated. -Scott V N5271L

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Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has survived a water ditching?  Did the plane flip? Sink? Float for how long?  I fly over the big pond (Lake MI) on occasion and usually have those thoughts.  Your real life experiences would be appreciated.

Ditched on dry land lots of times – no problem…

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Alan, I lack the specific of your case, but the problem could be biomechanical but not cycling-related. Your stride length or shoes could be the problem. Make sure you have shoes for your foot type. Re: cycling, I used to do bicycle racing and ran during the winter to keep in shape. I had ITB syndrome consistently, too. Stretching helped me, but you say you are already doing that. I was wondering what sort of gears you’re pushing when riding your bike. I tended to push high (i.e., difficult) gears at ~95rpm and so I had tight quads and ITBs. Stretching helped but it was only when I stopped racing that I could run without any ITB syndrome. You might want to consider using lower gears when riding. When you say you train for 5-6 hours, is that cycling or running? If it’s running, could it be too much at this point? When did you start running "seriously"? Cheers, Daniel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Hall Land and Energy Company, Inc. Organization: Hall Land and Energy Company, Inc. Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Last year I was more a cyclist.  This year I’m more a runner. For some reason my running legs are GONE for a few days after a hard (hour or more) session on the bike. I can barely manage a shuffle and there is the feeling I am doing something wrong.  I have no idea why.  Cycling has always wreaked havoc on my IT Band (Of course, it only manifests itself after running) What can I do to keep my training up?  Anyone else have the same dilemma?  Naturally tight, I am a stretching fiend (20 minutes a day). I hot tub.  Post run legs go in the cold pool.  I pamper myself as much as I punish myself.  I average 5-6 hours of training a week (so you have an idea of my training level). Hopefully someone’s grandma has a home remedy for the cardio junkie. Thanks! Al "Used to be a roadie, now I’m a runner, after I’m a swimmer I’ll be a caped crusader" Hall.

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Organization: Hall Land and Energy Company, Inc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Hall Land and Energy Company, Inc. Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Last year I was more a cyclist.  This year I’m more a runner. For some reason my running legs are GONE for a few days after a hard (hour or more) session on the bike. I can barely manage a shuffle and there is the feeling I am doing something wrong.  I have no idea why.  Cycling has always wreaked havoc on my IT Band (Of course, it only manifests itself after running) What can I do to keep my training up?  Anyone else have the same dilemma?  Naturally tight, I am a stretching fiend (20 minutes a day). I hot tub.  Post run legs go in the cold pool.  I pamper myself as much as I punish myself.  I average 5-6 hours of training a week (so you have an idea of my training level). Hopefully someone’s grandma has a home remedy for the cardio junkie. Thanks! Al "Used to be a roadie, now I’m a runner, after I’m a swimmer I’ll be a caped crusader" Hall.

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Welcome back!  I can relate to your history — similar to my own.   I did my first triathlon in ‘81 at Stanford (I think it was bike/swim/run), but didn’t do another until Apr 99.  Watch out Roger, the bug hit me hard — I finished IM Cal last month. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I apologize for the intrusion, but I had to tell someone. And I figured you all would understand. You see, my untreated case of triathlete’s disease, long held in remission by the demands of a busy life, has returned. Let me explain.

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I apologize for the intrusion, but I had to tell someone. And I figured you all would understand. You see, my untreated case of triathlete’s disease, long held in remission by the demands of a busy life, has returned. Let me explain. Way back in the dark mists of history, (the early 1980s), I competed in a series of triathlons. I did a couple of half-Ironman length races in 1982 and 1983. (Anybody up in Utah remember the Heber Valley Triathlon?) Not content to be beaten by the local riffraff, I joined 1300 others and got my butt soundly kicked by Dave Scott, Scott Tinley and the Puntous twins in a Bud Light / USTS race in Long Beach. I loved it. Unfortunately, the demands of college intervened, and my training time all but disappeared. Over the next fifteen years, I graduated, moved to San Diego, ballooned up to 265 pounds, rediscovered my road bike, lost 60 pounds, got married, discovered bicycle racing, and basically had a great life. But the bug is back. Oh, it started out innocently enough. In an effort to drop those last 20 pounds, I made the mistake of cross-training. You know, a little swimming during my lunch hour, early-morning runs a few days a week. Little stuff. Then some genius had to drop an Ironman right onto one of my favorite bike routes. Camp Pendleton. California Ironman. Massive local media coverage. Suddenly my runs are filled with memories of crossing the finish line, exhausted but elated, at the end of my first triathlon. My swims are filled with memories of Long Beach harbor and coming out of the water in 200 and somethingth place. I look for excuses, but it’s hard when you live in triathlon central (northern San Diego county, California). My house is 4 miles from the Quintana-Roo factory. Road Runner’s main warehouse is about 6 miles from my office. The triathletes are everywhere. Fine. I surrender. I’ll bear my disease with dignity and grace. And if you happen to be doing a half-Ironman length event in San Diego or Los Angeles next spring and get passed by a middle-aged, fat guy on a Cannondale, don’t be surprised. I’m older now. And quite a bit faster. You see, my triathlete’s disease is back. With a vengeance. Roger Merrill San Diego, CA P.S.  Don’t tell the guys over at rec.bicycles.racing       about this or they may never let me post again …

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Well in simple words, its great to have you back and I’ll keep an eye out for a fat middle age man riding a cannondale passing me. But after your done with your first tri back we all know that your going to lose that extra weight your lofting around. Good luck with your racing and welcome back. Chuck Garabedian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I apologize for the intrusion, but I had to tell someone. And I figured you all would understand. You see, my untreated case of triathlete’s disease, long held in remission by the demands of a busy life, has returned. Let me explain. Way back in the dark mists of history, (the early 1980s), I competed in a series of triathlons. I did a couple of half-Ironman length races in 1982 and 1983. (Anybody up in Utah remember the Heber Valley Triathlon?) Not content to be beaten by the local riffraff, I joined 1300 others and got my butt soundly kicked by Dave Scott, Scott Tinley and the Puntous twins in a Bud Light / USTS race in Long Beach. I loved it. Unfortunately, the demands of college intervened, and my training time all but disappeared. Over the next fifteen years, I graduated, moved to San Diego, ballooned up to 265 pounds, rediscovered my road bike, lost 60 pounds, got married, discovered bicycle racing, and basically had a great life. But the bug is back. Oh, it started out innocently enough. In an effort to drop those last 20 pounds, I made the mistake of cross-training. You know, a little swimming during my lunch hour, early-morning runs a few days a week. Little stuff. Then some genius had to drop an Ironman right onto one of my favorite bike routes. Camp Pendleton. California Ironman. Massive local media coverage. Suddenly my runs are filled with memories of crossing the finish line, exhausted but elated, at the end of my first triathlon. My swims are filled with memories of Long Beach harbor and coming out of the water in 200 and somethingth place. I look for excuses, but it’s hard when you live in triathlon central (northern San Diego county, California). My house is 4 miles from the Quintana-Roo factory. Road Runner’s main warehouse is about 6 miles from my office. The triathletes are everywhere. Fine. I surrender. I’ll bear my disease with dignity and grace. And if you happen to be doing a half-Ironman length event in San Diego or Los Angeles next spring and get passed by a middle-aged, fat guy on a Cannondale, don’t be surprised. I’m older now. And quite a bit faster. You see, my triathlete’s disease is back. With a vengeance. Roger Merrill San Diego, CA P.S.  Don’t tell the guys over at rec.bicycles.racing       about this or they may never let me post again …

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Roger,        My good sense tells me that you should (swim, bike and/or) run strait to the nearest therapist for intensive counseling; this thing can be beat you know. It just means hours upon hours on the couch with a good psychoanalyst delving deep into your childhood for the underlying reason for the onset of this completely irrational behavior.   But then you really don’t have time for that now do you? So that can only mean one thing

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see the appeal of the multisport bikes.  Before you take the plunge on some Cannondale or QR, I’d just offer my personal perspective. I ride a Ti Frame Litespeed Tuscany.  That’s a standard road bike.  Maybe something like the Blade or Tachyon would be faster for some triathlons. However, road-bikes, properly outfitted, are a lot more comfortable than the multisport bikes you’ll find. Since you’ll want a comfortable bike for training, you may consider putting some aerobars and a higher headstem on a regular road bike.  Also, at the race, you won’t have to make an adjustment from your everyday bike to your race-only bike.  (Train on what you race on, that’s my motto.) The multisport bikes are faster, probably.  However, they’re less comfortable, generally.  Comfort becomes a big, big deal, especially the longer the events.

Jimmy, I think you’re contradicting yourself here.  The whole idea behind the design of the multisport bikes is to make them efficient and comfortable in the aero position.  Of course, you can take it to extremes and have a seat to handle bar drop that will put you in traction in a long distance event.  However, you’ve got more options than just the extreme.  And those options come without having to resort to a forward seat post to get a good fit, in turn putting more weight on your arms and the front of the bike than with a properly fitted TT bike.  If you don’t use a forward seat post then your going to be more uncomfortable with a tighter thigh-torso angle and a longer reach to the aero bars.  I just can’t see the appeal there. Lastly, take a look at what the pros are riding in the longer events.  (Or even the shorter events for that matter.)  Seems like in Ironman distance races, they’re riding standard road-frames with aerobars added.

This is just ridiculous.  Pros get paid to ride what they do and that’s the bottom line.  A while back Wes Hobson posted a bike for sale right here on RST.  His stated reason for unloading the bike was that he had received a better sponsorship deal from another manufacturer.  These guys have bills to pay and they’ll ride the bikes made by whomever will pay them.  I’m glad that Wes was forthright with his post because maybe it will wake people up. The pros are pros because they are exceptional athletes and not because of the equipment they use. That said, if you take a look at qrman’s IMH ‘98 bike survey you’ll find that 73 of the top 100 finishers rode "steep seat angle" bikes. Comfort is a factor.  If your bike is uncomfortable, no way you’ll want to spend 3 or 4 hours riding on the weekends.

With this I have only strong agreement.  The only thing I would add is that it should be comfortable in the position that you intend to ride most. There is no bike made that will be comfortable for every intended use. That’s why many of us own both a TT bike and a road bike.  You can try to get away with one or the other but you must know going in that you are facing a compromise if you intend to make one bike do both jobs. For $1,500, you can buy a really nice road bike and some really good pedals and aerobars for them.

And for that same $1500 you can buy a nice steep seat angle bike designed from the aerobars back rather than trying to retrofit a road bike to do the same job. Stacy Hills Reston, VA

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You may have already purchased your first bike by now, but I’ll leave you this message anyways.  I’m selling my first tri-bike, not because I was unhappy with it but because I lack the time to train as I should.  It just sits in my garage waiting to be used.  It’s a Quintana Roo Kilo 58cm.  It has the aero-bars, Zefal pump, ARC Serfas Dual Density seat (plus origonal seat) SPD Pedals with size 11 Diadora shoes.  The bike is set up for the Wildflower event so it may not be as fast on a flat track, but sure does well on hilly courses.  It has a grip shift and cyclometer.  If you are interested in the bike I’m asking $1000 obo.  The bike is located in Corona, Ca.  You can reach me at 800-733-3866 Ext. 7086. Good luck! Dave

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I know this is like throwing fresh meat into a shark pool, but here goes. I’m finally about to take out the plastic and get my first real tri bike to replace the lame mountain bike, I’ve been doing some homework, and now I’m looking for advice. Here are some criteria and thoughts: I’m trying to spend around $1500. I definitely want a multi-sport bike(including aero bars and tri-bike geometry), not a road bike with modifications . I’ve been looking at QR’s and Cannondale’s. Any other brands that are in my price range that I should consider? What about the Fuji?

Habanero, in titanium, and in your price range. I noticed that the cheapest Rocketwing is around my price point, but it looks a little radical for a first bike. Am I discounting it unfairly?

You mean Softride. The Rocketwing is their high-end model, and it’s in the $4000 range. I’m going for cinchers for this first bike, not tubulars (fewer learning curves) What questions should I be asking but just don’t know it yet?

Make sure your reseach includes understanding how you will fit on the bike. Rick "Fit first" Denney

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Neal :  Is your head spinning yet. You probably had an idea of what you wanted before and now it’s been blown all to hell.  Here is my $0.02. You mention Softride and I will also give these bikes a vote of confidence. They are built for comfort and speed. I have a Power V and I am very pleased with it. Others have mentioned the comfort of the beam and I can assure you that your back does not feel as compressed after a few hours on the bike. No cries of "AAAAGH" when you hit one of those unexpected potholes that seems intent on connecting your tailbone to your neck.  One of the other benefits of the beam is that you can adjust the geometry to whatever you wish (moving the seat back and forth and the beam height) and make the bike fit you not you fit the bike.  I have also found their service to be quite good and have received very fast (within a day) replies to email.  Good Luck  Stephen     – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this is like throwing fresh meat into a shark pool, but here goes. I’m finally about to take out the plastic and get my first real tri bike to replace the lame mountain bike, I’ve been doing some homework, and now I’m looking for advice. Here are some criteria and thoughts: I’m trying to spend around $1500. I definitely want a multi-sport bike(including aero bars and tri-bike geometry), not a road bike with modifications . I’ve been looking at QR’s and Cannondale’s. Any other brands that are in my price range that I should consider? What about the Fuji? I noticed that the cheapest Rocketwing is around my price point, but it looks a little radical for a first bike. Am I discounting it unfairly? I’m going for cinchers for this first bike, not tubulars (fewer learning curves) What questions should I be asking but just don’t know it yet? I appreciate any advice offered. jNf

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There are a couple of pretty decent deals out there for your first Tri bike. I personally chose the Fuji Aloha because overall it seemed the best value. It has the 78 degree seat tube, 650 wheels, all profile up front, the same Aluminum grade as the QR’s, rides great and comes WITH pedals to boot. Something else great about it is that it comes with a bladed fork (You have to buy the $1700+ QR for that), and the frame tubes are all aero shaped as well.  The only thing I would change are the cranks. Though I’m only saying that because they’re not 105 or Ultegra, but I’ve not had any problems with them either (never even loosened). Overall I love the bike and would buy it again. As for not seeing  many people ride them, take a look at how little advertising they do. You can barely find a place that even sells Fuji much less having one of these in stock. If you noticed, even Triathlete said very little about the bike in they’re bike buyers guide. (I guess Fuji doesn’t advertise in Triathlete either). On another note, if you really like the QR’s they are having some special right now where if you buy the bike they give you a wetsuit. But you still pay more…. Sean

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To be perfectly honest, I seem to see a lot more modified road-bikes than tri-bikes among the very elite at IM distance.  I haven’t done a scientific study, just going by what I see in the pix. I could be wrong about this.  Anybody else?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Lastly, take a look at what the pros are riding in the longer events. (Or | even the shorter events for that matter.)  Seems like in Ironman distance | races, they’re riding standard road-frames with aerobars added. | Is this true? I was under the impression the pros go for 78 deg as a rule. There are no doubt some prominent exceptions (Peter Reid?), but isn’t it true that 78 deg is more common among the pros?. rich

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| | Lastly, take a look at what the pros are riding in the longer events.  (Or | even the shorter events for that matter.)  Seems like in Ironman distance | races, they’re riding standard road-frames with aerobars added. | Is this true? I was under the impression the pros go for 78 deg as a rule. There are no doubt some prominent exceptions (Peter Reid?), but isn’t it true that 78 deg is more common among the pros?.                                         rich

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I see the appeal of the multisport bikes.  Before you take the plunge on some Cannondale or QR, I’d just offer my personal perspective. I ride a Ti Frame Litespeed Tuscany.  That’s a standard road bike.  Maybe something like the Blade or Tachyon would be faster for some triathlons. However, road-bikes, properly outfitted, are a lot more comfortable than the multisport bikes you’ll find. Since you’ll want a comfortable bike for training, you may consider putting some aerobars and a higher headstem on a regular road bike.  Also, at the race, you won’t have to make an adjustment from your everyday bike to your race-only bike.  (Train on what you race on, that’s my motto.) The multisport bikes are faster, probably.  However, they’re less comfortable, generally.  Comfort becomes a big, big deal, especially the longer the events. Lastly, take a look at what the pros are riding in the longer events.  (Or even the shorter events for that matter.)  Seems like in Ironman distance races, they’re riding standard road-frames with aerobars added. Comfort is a factor.  If your bike is uncomfortable, no way you’ll want to spend 3 or 4 hours riding on the weekends. For $1,500, you can buy a really nice road bike and some really good pedals and aerobars for them. Just my two cents. Good Luck.

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Neal, there are so many things to consider. Don’t buy a Softride without first putting at least 30 miles or so on one. A reputable dealer that knows you are serious should be willing to let you do this. Some people just don’t like the feel of the suspension (I am not one of those, I ride a Powerwing). Also, some people can’t stand the slight bouncing up and down that occurs if you aren’t a smooth pedal’r. I had no learning curve, for some reason it felt right to me immediately. As for other bikes – I’ve only seen one guy on a Fuji Aloha. What that means I don’t know, but there are not too many people that will be able to give you first hand experience on them. Cannondale makes tons of good bikes, and QR’s are all over the place – obviously they’re well liked for both their performance characteristics and their price. My first real bike was a real tri-bike, a Litespeed Blade, and I soon realized that I should have bought a road bike instead. Training on a 78 degree bike with a long top tube can be very uncomfortable, and I wished I had bought a road bike for my daily riding. It sure was fast for aero position riding, but there are lots of hills I train on that I can’t climb in the aerobars. As it turned out I went out and bought a comfy road bike soon after and only raced on the tri-bike. If I had to do it over again I would have bought a bike with in-between geometry I could have done both on, like a Kestrel or an Aegis Trident. If I didn’t have the bucks for either of them, I’d have bought a bigger name road bike for less money and put aerobars on it and a forward seat post. If you only have $ for one set of wheels clinchers are a good idea. Much cheaper to replace a tube in a clincher than a whole tubular tire. Hope some of this helps. Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this is like throwing fresh meat into a shark pool, but here goes. I’m finally about to take out the plastic and get my first real tri bike to replace the lame mountain bike, I’ve been doing some homework, and now I’m looking for advice. Here are some criteria and thoughts: I’m trying to spend around $1500. I definitely want a multi-sport bike(including aero bars and tri-bike geometry), not a road bike with modifications . I’ve been looking at QR’s and Cannondale’s. Any other brands that are in my price range that I should consider? What about the Fuji? I noticed that the cheapest Rocketwing is around my price point, but it looks a little radical for a first bike. Am I discounting it unfairly? I’m going for cinchers for this first bike, not tubulars (fewer learning curves) What questions should I be asking but just don’t know it yet? I appreciate any advice offered. jNf

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FWIW…love my QR and as you can see at races so do lots of other folks. Only drawback is that there are lots of QR in transition areas. Ted

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Yeah, you can buy my Softride Powerwing.  Race ready with aero wheels and all. And,  I’m asking $1,500.  Isn’t that perfect.

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You should get the latest Triathlete, there’s a nice article about frame materials and bikes in general.  For your first real tri-bike, however, I wouldn’t worry too much about all the technical junk like what it’s made of..  I wouldn’t advise getting an ultralight bike unless you too are ultralight, but you probably can’t get one that’s too incredibly light for the price-range you’re after.  The main piece of advise I would give you is to pick a well-known brand and make sure the bike fits well.  Have an expert or someone at your LBS help you get setup on your bike, and if you can’t get fit totally comfortably, don’t buy that bike.  That can be somewhat difficult if you have to mail-order a bike, but the fit is crucial to your cycling performance.  I wouldn’t discount Softrides yet.  When I first was getting into the sport and saw them I thought, "those things look stupid and gimmicky."  If I had the finances and really needed a new bike right now I’d probably get a Softride if for nothing else than the comfort of the beam support.  If the bike package you buy doesn’t come with aerobars, the Syntace C2’s seem to be the favorite, I haven’t had a chance to try them, but if I were getting new aerobars those are the ones I’d buy.  As far as pedals go, Speedplay X/series all the way.  They are awesomely comfortable, and you don’t have to spend a minute or two screwing around trying to kick the pedal over and get the stupid cleat to click in like you do with most other pedals. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this is like throwing fresh meat into a shark pool, but here goes. I’m finally about to take out the plastic and get my first real tri bike to replace the lame mountain bike, I’ve been doing some homework, and now I’m looking for advice. Here are some criteria and thoughts: I’m trying to spend around $1500. I definitely want a multi-sport bike(including aero bars and tri-bike geometry), not a road bike with modifications . I’ve been looking at QR’s and Cannondale’s. Any other brands that are in my price range that I should consider? What about the Fuji? I noticed that the cheapest Rocketwing is around my price point, but it looks a little radical for a first bike. Am I discounting it unfairly? I’m going for cinchers for this first bike, not tubulars (fewer learning curves) What questions should I be asking but just don’t know it yet? I appreciate any advice offered. jNf

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I know this is like throwing fresh meat into a shark pool, but here goes. I’m finally about to take out the plastic and get my first real tri bike to replace the lame mountain bike, I’ve been doing some homework, and now I’m looking for advice. Here are some criteria and thoughts: I’m trying to spend around $1500. I definitely want a multi-sport bike(including aero bars and tri-bike geometry), not a road bike with modifications . I’ve been looking at QR’s and Cannondale’s. Any other brands that are in my price range that I should consider? What about the Fuji? I noticed that the cheapest Rocketwing is around my price point, but it looks a little radical for a first bike. Am I discounting it unfairly? I’m going for cinchers for this first bike, not tubulars (fewer learning curves) What questions should I be asking but just don’t know it yet? I appreciate any advice offered. jNf

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: St. Croix International Triathlon (1.2 mile swim, 35 mile bike, and 7.4 : mile run) will be held on Sunday, May 7, 1995.  It will also be an Ironman : Qualifier with 8 age group slots and 2 lottery slots.  Call 809-773-4470 : for entry info. : Fred Fred, Do you have a list of all of the qualifying races for 1995?  You seem to be in the know (at least about your race and St. Croix).  If you do have a list could you please post it (or if anyone else does).         Thanks, Todd

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Does anyone know when the St. Croix Triathlon is scheduled for 1995? We are planning a spring vacation and would like to Tri this event if possible. Thanks

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Does anyone know when the St. Croix Triathlon is scheduled for 1995? We are planning a spring vacation and would like to Tri this event if possible.

St. Croix International Triathlon (1.2 mile swim, 35 mile bike, and 7.4 mile run) will be held on Sunday, May 7, 1995.  It will also be an Ironman Qualifier with 8 age group slots and 2 lottery slots.  Call 809-773-4470 for entry info. Fred

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Has anyone done this race?  This sounds like a great place to start the season  (and my wife actually would WANT to go to this race!). — Tri Your Hardest!  /O     ___o      o ~~~~   _ <,_    <|       (*)/ (*)      / Darrin Bartlett IMC ‘98 11:59.59

They have an official website, although they have not updated it for this year’s race. You might want to try to mail an inquiry for application to the address that is shown though. The website is: http://www.ecani.com/vi/sc/triath/ Good luck.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Has anyone done this race?  This sounds like a great place to start the season  (and my wife actually would WANT to go to this race!). — Tri Your Hardest!   /O     ___o      o  ~~~~   _ <,_    <|        (*)/ (*)      / Darrin Bartlett IMC ‘98 11:59.59

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Although adressed to dutch RSTs, I will address this in english.. What is the best resource of race dates in the Netherlands? Is there an website listing local races? I am mainly interested in duathlons and max OD tris. Thanx already. JeeWee — Jan-willem ‘If the world doesn’t hurry, I surely will’ Donkers When replying to mail, please remove NOSPAM from my email address http://monolith.yawc.net/~jeewee/

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Although adressed to dutch RSTs, I will address this in english.. What is the best resource of race dates in the Netherlands? Is there an website listing local races? I am mainly interested in duathlons and max OD tris. Thanx already. JeeWee

"Triathlon Sourcebook", which is a *world* listing of triathlons/duathlons. If that info is not specific enough, e-mail Katherine for Nederlander contacts. Chaz

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There’s also the Gay Games in Amsterdam August 4, 1998!

hmm.. could I participate even as a heterosexual?  Heck, I even played in a transvestite band.. cheers, JeeWee — Jan-willem ‘If the world doesn’t hurry, I surely will’ Donkers When replying to mail, please remove NOSPAM. from my email address http://monolith.yawc.net/~jeewee/

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hmm.. could I participate even as a heterosexual?  Heck, I even played in a transvestite band..

Sure!!! All are welcome to participate. Check out their web site!

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"Triathlon Sourcebook", which is a *world* listing of triathlons/duathlons. If that info is not specific enough, e-mail Katherine for Nederlander contacts. Chaz

Thanx again, I also browsed  the RST adress database for dutchies. Very helpful indeed. Cheers, JeeWee — Jan-willem ‘If the world doesn’t hurry, I surely will’ Donkers When replying to mail, please remove NOSPAM from my email address http://monolith.yawc.net/~jeewee/

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There’s also the Gay Games in Amsterdam August 4, 1998!

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Does anyone know of a ready-made tri screensaver for the Macintosh? Brian Sullivan

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 * snip * I think there are better pics to be found on some of the individual pages out there, like yours, Tricia, or Marty’s.  Tricia, may I use a picture of you on my screen saver?

Hell, Stacy, why use a picture of a TriBaby when you can snag that fab shot of Karen Smyers on the bike in Kona ‘95 off of Marty’s page?  Go ahead and use me if you really want to ("Oh, yes, use me, do with me what you will!"), but it sounds kinda scary to me! Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 *** http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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HELP         I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.         Troy

Troy – I simply cut the picture of my latest purchase a NEW tequilo as my wallpaper and I get lots of questions from co-workers… Jeff Andres

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You’re right, Tricia.  Against my better judgement I surfed over to the ITU sight to see these pics(first I had to go to Yahoo! to find out where the damn thing is).  I wish now that I’d listened to that little voice and not given them the hits on their pages.  All the pics were of Emma Carney aka "I can beat Mark Allen if he has the guts to show up", or the winners on the podium, or a bunch of wheel sucking drafters.  I didn’t end up downloading one. I think there are better pics to be found on some of the individual pages out there, like yours, Tricia, or Marty’s.  Tricia, may I use a picture of you on my screen saver? Mr. Stacy J. Hills  Tricia Richter wrote in article … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Apparently, all the images from ITU World Cup races in 1997 are downloadable for free from the ITU web site (or else a link to the ITU-photo site), and as such can be used for screen savers. This isn’t my idea; this little piece of   info comes from Colin Whelan, the Australian photographer whose agency has the ITU contract to shoot all the races — and he’s pleased if people want to make screen-savers out of the images. Yeah, but Troy said he wanted a TRIATHLON screen saver……

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Yeah, but Troy said he wanted a TRIATHLON screen saver……

RIGHT ON, Tricia!! John (Faith) Ft. Washington, MD

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HELP    I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.    Troy

 There are 2 sold by UltraCoach and one given away free at the website 1. Official Ironman 2.  Official Scott Tinley

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HELP    I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.    Troy

I use Microsoft scenes and various race shots available on the internet. You may need Paintshop Pro or a similar program to manipulate image size and format.  Otherwise, it’s easy and works great, and I assume other screen savers have similar customizing options. My beef – no good tri images on line?  Any help there would be appreciated. Bob Johnson LArgo, FL

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I have written a little program that ’swaps’ in a bitmap file on a Windows 95 or NT 4.0 desktop. You set the directory where your bitmaps are located and set a time interval to change the images. The program runs in the background and appears in the icon tray. It is not quite done (what software ever is), I’m still adding a few features like ability to use JPEG’s and GIF’s the UI is a little rough but it works great. I place all kinds of bitmaps into one Dir. and let-er-rip. If you would like to give it a spin e-mail me Michael Dickson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HELP    I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.    Troy

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roy Here’s what I did.  I went to CNET and downloaded a free version of "Amazing JPEG Screen Saver".  Next step is to collect your favorite TRI pics and save them as JPEG files.  The Screen Saver will then search for the JPEG files and use them as pictures for the screen saver.  Very Cool and Very Free.  It’s also a nice way of putting pictures of your family (or in my case an ultrasound of my future son) on the screen – assuming you have access to a scanner.

Where do we find CNET? — Derek Theriault Equipe de triathlon Universite Laval SAS 2254, PEPS Universite Laval Ste-Foy, PQ, Canada G1K 7P4 Fax 418-656-5749 Tel 418-845-3793

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Troy wrote (and Carlos answered)       I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give. Here’s what I did.  I went to CNET and downloaded a free version of "Amazing JPEG Screen Saver".  Next step is to collect your favorite TRI pics and save them as JPEG files. Apparently, all the images from ITU World Cup races in 1997 are downloadable for free from the ITU web site (or else a link to the ITU-photo site),

and as such can be used for screen savers. This isn’t my idea; this little piece of   info comes from Colin Whelan, the Australian photographer whose agency has the ITU contract to shoot all the races — and he’s pleased if people want to make screen-savers out of the images.

Yeah, but Troy said he wanted a TRIATHLON screen saver…… Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 *** http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – roy Here’s what I did.  I went to CNET and downloaded a free version of "Amazing JPEG Screen Saver".  Next step is to collect your favorite TRI pics and save them as JPEG files.  The Screen Saver will then search for the JPEG files and use them as pictures for the screen saver.  Very Cool and Very Free.  It’s also a nice way of putting pictures of your family (or in my case an ultrasound of my future son) on the screen – assuming you have access to a scanner. Where do we find CNET? —

Nowadays, just try the obvious… www.cnet.com  will get you there. It’s a big site but they have a search engine. Mike "TriBop" Tennent WebRunner Running Page http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html My Model Railroad Page http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/srr/

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Troy wrote (and Carlos answered)       I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.       Troy Here’s what I did.  I went to CNET and downloaded a free version of "Amazing JPEG Screen Saver".  Next step is to collect your favorite TRI pics and save them as JPEG files.

Apparently, all the images from ITU World Cup races in 1997 are downloadable for free from the ITU web site (or else a link to the ITU-photo site), and as such can be used for screen savers. This isn’t my idea; this little piece of info comes from Colin Whelan, the Australian photographer whose agency has the ITU contract to shoot all the races — and he’s pleased if people want to make screen-savers out of the images. Mousepads, too, I guess. Go see what’s there. Katherine Williams Triathlon Sourcebook

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   I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.    Troy

Here’s what I did.  I went to CNET and downloaded a free version of "Amazing JPEG Screen Saver".  Next step is to collect your favorite TRI pics and save them as JPEG files.  The Screen Saver will then search for the JPEG files and use them as pictures for the screen saver.  Very Cool and Very Free.  It’s also a nice way of putting pictures of your family (or in my case an ultrasound of my future son) on the screen – assuming you have access to a scanner. Regards, Carlos Torres de Navarra Coral Gables, Florida

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HELP         I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.         Troy

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Get a photo that you like, scan it and make it your screen saver.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon HELP    I am trying to find a triathlon screen saver besides the inside tri screen saver. Does anyone know of another or a way to make your own. Thanks for any input anyone can give.    Troy

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Question:

In your language, how do you say…WAH!!!!!!!

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<snip Don’t read Triathlete Magazine, get out and train

The USA version of 220 is no better.  If anyone cares to know more (or maybe 220 will finally respond), email me.    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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In your language, how do you say…WAH!!!!!!!

Funny, onlineslug!  The guy has a problem and you hide behind the don’t-have-to-show-your-real-name AOL account. Now flame ME!  With your REAL name! Pa’ulo

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In your language, how do you say…WAH!!!!!!! Funny, onlineslug!  The guy has a problem and you hide behind the don’t-have-to-show-your-real-name AOL account. Now flame ME!  With your REAL name! Pa’ulo Thank you for the support Mr. Oakes !

Paulo Ferreira de Sousa

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(Rob Raymond) writes:

If you actually want some advice on training please give Tri-Maryland a call at 410-882-6103.  There is usually someone here and if we don’t have the info on hand, we’ll track it down and phone you back.

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Nagle) writes:

     Can anyone explain why the race reports in the Tri mags don’t give split times ?  OK – sometimes the body of the accompanying article will mention XX was first out of the water in aa:bb but that’s usually it. Adding the splits doesn’t add much data but sure does add information. Jeffrey (others ?) – can you do something about it ?<< To summarize and edit Katy Williams  very wordy epistle (Katy worked at Triathlete for less than a  year): Sometimes the magazines don’t get the splits, many, many times they are inaccurate, many times there is not enough room in the format. In a format such as Triathlete, the focus (for race reports) is on photography, analysis of the race, the sport and the athletes. It’s not really a race results booklet. I think the newsprint news-type magazines like Inside Triathlon are more set up for that format. That’s why you have a choice. JJ JJ

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: To summarize and edit Katy Williams  very wordy epistle (Katy worked at : Triathlete for less than a  year): She sure explained the situation well, though.  But that’s a reporter’s gift, isn’t it?  Being a quick study so you can explain things to other people.

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Folks Can anyone explain why the race reports in the Tri mags don’t give split times ?  OK – sometimes the body of the accompanying article will mention XX was first out of the water in aa:bb but that’s usually it. Adding the splits doesn’t add much data but sure does add information. Jeffrey (others ?) – can you do something about it ? RNman

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As a longtime reader and advertiser, here’s my two cents.  Publisher Jean-Claude Garot has an "empire" in Belgium where several magazines of his are published, 8 or 10 I think.  He also has cross-promotional arrangements with other magazines, deals that I am not privy to and don’t understand.  He never met a deal he didn’t like, and has terrific enthusiasm for every one of them.  It is easy to get mesmerized while listening to his latest pitch.   Maybe the most engaging pitchman I’ve ever met. He falls victim, in my view, to forgetfulness.  He forgets what really makes him money.   Triathlete Magazine certainly, probably the German version of Triathlete, and possibly the French version, make very good money.  This is my opinion.  Some other publications, like Winning, lose as much as Triathlete makes.  Again my view. This drives the staff of Triathlete crazy.  I’ve been advertiser through the administrations of Terry Mulgannon, Gary Newkirk, Tim Downs, C.J. Olivares, Rich Graham, and Jeffrey Justice, that I can remember.  That’s six editors, not counting the present one, Bill Kutovsky, and they’ll all tell you the same thing, that if Triathlete was treated as a separate profit center it would be a wildly successful magazine. The point of this post is to tell you that it is okay to be mad at the publisher for not swallowing his ego and allowing the market to swallow his less successful magazines.  But the editorial and art staff has generally been pretty good there, and is not to blame for the occasional foibles. I won’t be able to defend myself against vicious flames for ten days, as I’ll be suff’rin for Jesus in Kona, as of tomorrow.   If JJ and I can find a way to post from over there we’ll report, on the day of or day after, which QR rider won the race.   QRman

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writes:     This drives the staff of Triathlete crazy.  I’ve been advertiser through the administrations of Terry Mulgannon, Gary Newkirk, Tim Downs, C.J. Olivares, Rich Graham, and Jeffrey Justice, that I can remember.  That’s six editors, not counting the present one, Bill Kutovsky, and they’ll all tell you the same thing, that if Triathlete was treated as a separate profit center it would be a wildly successful magazine.<<< Folks, truer words were never spoken! And for those who are truly looking for Triathlete magazine, for whatever reason, call 1-415-777-6939. JJ

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writes: I have not recieved the october issue, the last one I got was

september, and I have not even seen oct. issue the last time I was at the newsstand. Does anyone (JJ ?) know if there is an oct issue or have they recieved it.?<<< Yes, the October issue of Triathlete is finally making the rounds. Jeffrey Justice

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(Rob Raymond) writes: After calls to both Tri-fed and Triathlete magazine, I

found out I will be receiving the magazines in November. Other publications (profit and non-profit) I subscribe to have taken two months tops to be processed. Are tri-fed and Triathlete just incredibly inefficient organizations or is there some other explanation?<<< That’s a for real question and a justifiable flame. The Tri-Fed/Triathlete Magazine deal was full of good intentions but was never fully carried out. If your story is true, and I believe it is, the service you received from Triathlete’s parent company Winning International is pathetic and inexcusable. However, please don’t judge the magazine and its contents on this fouled business/promo plan. The editors, writers, photographers had nothing to do with this, have made numerous complaints about it and are embarrassed about it. I was a victim of this plan, too. I’m sure that next season, Tri-Fed won’t be involved with Triathlete in this ill-fated venture. Triathlete, Inside Triathlon and all other tri mags should have its own voice in the sport and Tri-Fed its own newsletter and promotion plans. Jeffrey Justice editor in exile * I haven’t been on the staff of Triathlete since April 1994, I’m a freelance writer. Therefore, my views are my own do not reflect the views of Triathlete Magazine.

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(Rob Raymond) writes:

A real question? I don’t know, but this is a real issue. <flame After spending ~$35 to join tri-fed and subscribe to Triathlete magazine at a race on June 4, I have yet to receive anything except the TriFed rules book. (Interesting reading, but as a newcomer I am more in need of training info) After calls to both Tri-fed and Triathlete magazine, I found out I will be receiving the magazines in November. Other publications (profit and non-profit) I subscribe to have taken two months tops to be processed. Are tri-fed and Triathlete just incredibly inefficient organizations or is there some other explanation? <!flame Rob  I have not recieved the october issue, the last one I got was september, and I have not even seen oct. issue the last time I was at the newsstand. Does anyone (JJ ?) know if there is an oct issue or have they recieved it.? bruce platt

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      At the risk of asking a dumb question, does Triathlete magazine    still    exist?  I tried to reach them this morning to complain about my magazine    not showing up, and I got a recording saying that the line had been    disconnected.  Sometimes I’m not sure why they exist, but as long as I’ve    paid for a subscription, I’d at least like to be able to contact them!<<<    My, my.  Do I detect a dissatisfied customer out there? I don’t know.    Since you’ve never before responded to my surveys on how to improve the    tri magazines and have no AOL user profile available, I’m not for certain    this is a for real question. A real question? I don’t know, but this is a real issue. <flame After spending ~$35 to join tri-fed and subscribe to Triathlete magazine at a race on June 4, I have yet to receive anything except the TriFed rules book. (Interesting reading, but as a newcomer I am more in need of training info) After calls to both Tri-fed and Triathlete magazine, I found out I will be receiving the magazines in November. Other publications (profit and non-profit) I subscribe to have taken two months tops to be processed. Are tri-fed and Triathlete just incredibly inefficient organizations or is there some other explanation? <!flame Rob Raymond    jeffrey justice    former senior editor, now living as a self-exiled troublemaker in    Oceanside, CA —  HP 1L-A2  Network and Systems Management Division  3404 E. Harmony Road              Fax:      (303) 229-4292  Fort Collins, CO 80525-9599       Phone:    (303) 229-3426

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At the risk of asking a dumb question, does Triathlete magazine still exist?  I tried to reach them this morning to complain about my magazine not showing up, and I got a recording saying that the line had been disconnected.  Sometimes I’m not sure why they exist, but as long as I’ve paid for a subscription, I’d at least like to be able to contact them!

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writes:    At the risk of asking a dumb question, does Triathlete magazine still exist?  I tried to reach them this morning to complain about my magazine not showing up, and I got a recording saying that the line had been disconnected.  Sometimes I’m not sure why they exist, but as long as I’ve paid for a subscription, I’d at least like to be able to contact them!<<< My, my.  Do I detect a dissatisfied customer out there? I don’t know. Since you’ve never before responded to my surveys on how to improve the tri magazines and have no AOL user profile available, I’m not for certain this is a for real question. So at the risk of falling for a subtle flame or some intended cyberspace trickery, here goes: The Allentown, PA number is indeed disconnected. The owner (or, hmmmm is he the former owner?) Jean Claude Garot (a Belgian) is obviously unaware that doing such a thing, without posting a forward number,  in America is not good business. In fact, IMHO, it’s damn rude. So, if you want to talk to a live body call 1-415-777-6939 or fax Until further notice, I can forward all gripes etc… jeffrey justice former senior editor, now living as a self-exiled troublemaker in Oceanside, CA

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