Should not be a problem. It should be an enhancement. I recently did an Olympic distance on a Sat, then did a 20 mile Bike TT Sunday morn followed by a 30 Mile road race an hour later. Got gold in all three but I’m only 65.
Whereas I did a sprint tri and the next day a 10k in cold Golden Gate Park and was hurting for a while, esp one hip. A week is probably fine. A day is asking for injury, esp if the temp isn’t 75. — Jason O’Rourke www.jor.com
Last month, while training for longer sprint triathlons, I decided to do a 10K run, which turned out to be a fairly hilly course. It took me about 3 or 4 days to recover to the point of being able to run normally again. In training, I had regularly been doing swims up to 4000 M, bike rides up to 36 miles, and runs up to 4 miles, although on flatter terrain. I had also done some brick training with 20 mile rides followed by a 2 or 3 mile run. That said, I wouldn’t attempt something like that again unless I’d been training regularly at something close to race distance, maybe 5 miles for a 10K and also on similar terrain. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Should not be a problem. It should be an enhancement. I recently did an Olympic distance on a Sat, then did a 20 mile Bike TT Sunday morn followed by a 30 Mile road race an hour later. Got gold in all three but I’m only 65. I got a question. I did my first ever sprint triathlon last weekend and I’m planning on doing another next weekend. The question is, I’ve also signed up to do a 10k run on the weekend in between. Since I’ve only trained to for the 5k, the running distance of a sprint tri, am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take it real slow?
I got a question. I did my first ever sprint triathlon last weekend and I’m planning on doing another next weekend. The question is, I’ve also signed up to do a 10k run on the weekend in between. Since I’ve only trained to for the 5k, the running distance of a sprint tri, am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take it real slow?
How much running or training for that matter the body can tollerate depends on the individual. Factor in age, nutrition, stress, and sleep habits when deciding an exercise regiment. In my 20’s I slept well, had little stress, and could workout hard virtually every day without any thought of getting worn out. Now in my 40’s I have moderate stress, sleep poorly, and find rest days a necessary part of my routine. IMHO stress and sleep deprivation are the biggest performance killers as we age. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got a question. I did my first ever sprint triathlon last weekend and I’m planning on doing another next weekend. The question is, I’ve also signed up to do a 10k run on the weekend in between. Since I’ve only trained to for the 5k, the running distance of a sprint tri, am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take it real slow?
am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take i
No. You have a whole week to recover.
Should not be a problem. It should be an enhancement. I recently did an Olympic distance on a Sat, then did a 20 mile Bike TT Sunday morn followed by a 30 Mile road race an hour later. Got gold in all three but I’m only 65.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got a question. I did my first ever sprint triathlon last weekend and I’m planning on doing another next weekend. The question is, I’ve also signed up to do a 10k run on the weekend in between. Since I’ve only trained to for the 5k, the running distance of a sprint tri, am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take it real slow?
Ken, You are an insperation for us younger guys. With that said let me point out that at 65 there are far fewer people competing and hence placing first in three closely spaced events is easier than at a younger age. The typical 30-35 age group around here attracts more than 50 entrants compared to no more than 3 max for the 65+ age group. It would be folly for most 30-40 age groupers to attempt same day races if they planned to place in both as there is just too much competition. It’s great you’re able to succeed with such short intervals between races. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Should not be a problem. It should be an enhancement. I recently did an Olympic distance on a Sat, then did a 20 mile Bike TT Sunday morn followed by a 30 Mile road race an hour later. Got gold in all three but I’m only 65. I got a question. I did my first ever sprint triathlon last weekend and I’m planning on doing another next weekend. The question is, I’ve also signed up to do a 10k run on the weekend in between. Since I’ve only trained to for the 5k, the running distance of a sprint tri, am I jeopardizing my second tri by doing the 10k, even if I take it real slow?
The key difference is that women seeking the benefit of rabbits/pacers employ runners who are faster than they are (men) and men must employ runners who are by definition slower than them. So the woman’s marathon is a unique event in that a woman can be paced the entire distance. In the men’s marathon and in track events (always single-sex) the pacers always drop off the lead. It’s not an unfair advantage because every woman has equal opportunity to use male pacers, but it is an advantage unique to women in mixed marathons. I’d consider any given time in a woman-only marathon a superior performance to the same mark in a mixed marathon. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or records? Naoko Takahashi is quoted as saying: " Because of the help I got from my pacers and guards it was easy to run. " Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
I don’t care one way or the other about the pacers because she still had to run 26.2 in record time on her own power, but it must be recognized that the circumstances are not the same between men’s and women’s records.
Not exactly the same perhaps, but men have pacers too. A friend of mine won a marathon by over 20 minutes once. He had a group of 4-5 bikers with him the whole way. In the big marathons the leaders have people on motorcycles and tv crews leading them the whole way. Not exactly the same but it still gives them someone to "race" if they feel the need to do so. -jeff
I’m of the opinion that pacers are a valid way to run a record. But I think a few rules should be in place. 1) the pacer must be an entrant in the race. 2) any pacer must start at the start. No pacer should be allowed to jump in at 20 miles of a marathon. 3) Ideally the pacer should be the same sex, but not necessary. 4) The pacer should not provide a drafting advantage for an extended period of time (3-5 minutes maximum). I like to key off other racers to race faster. This is the same as pacing. If it is ok for me to do it for my own pr’s it should be ok for world record holders to do the same. The only difference is that my pacers are competing against me and may be using me to pace themselves. Racing is all about finishing ahead of the guy next to you. Perhaps it is time to differentiate record setting and racing. Andy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or records? Naoko Takahashi is quoted as saying: " Because of the help I got from my pacers and guards it was easy to run. " Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or records? Naoko Takahashi is quoted as saying: " Because of the help I got from my pacers and guards it was easy to run. " Ken
And men run P/N/WR solo? J.Hellstrom (FinRun)
What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or records?
It seems a lot more reasonable to me than men being paced by men that drop out before the race is over which is at least mostly accepted in track races. -jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Naoko Takahashi is quoted as saying: " Because of the help I got from my pacers and guards it was easy to run. " Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
: What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or : records? : It seems a lot more reasonable to me than men being paced by men that drop : out before the race is over which is at least mostly accepted in track : races. Except for the fact that all her pacers dropped out, too. It is the same thing. The difference is that she could be paced by people capable of doing better than her whereas the men setting records are not capable, otherwise they would be setting the records instead. I don’t care one way or the other about the pacers because she still had to run 26.2 in record time on her own power, but it must be recognized that the circumstances are not the same between men’s and women’s records. — Jonathan Geisler —
What’s the feeling about women being paced by men to world bests or records? Naoko Takahashi is quoted as saying: " Because of the help I got from my pacers and guards it was easy to run. " Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
Did any of the Ottawa-based readers of this newsgroup make it to last night’s meeting to discuss the construction of a new track in the city? I had a prior engagement at the very same time (7-9pm) so I couldn’t attend. I’ve heard about it on CBC radio this morning, but I can’t find anything on newspapers’ websites. They didn’t specify that it was an indoor one. The sense I got last week is that this what was going to be debated, not another outdoor facility. Speaking of our outdoor track, the French delegation at the Francophone Games had derogatory things to say about it. The track itself is fine; it’s the buildings, etc. around it that aren’t up to par with worlds or olympic standards… Thanks for any info, Daniel — Daniel Pierre-Antoine Dept. of Political Science Carleton University 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, ON K1L 5B6
It was more of a presentation. A consultant hired by the City has come up with a short-list of several possible sites one of which is at Carleton University. A draft report is to go the City tomorrow. We were told that this project is being fast-tracked by the Mayor’s office which seems like a good sign. There were around 60 people in attendance and some "spirited" discussion which will have no influence on the City’s direction. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did any of the Ottawa-based readers of this newsgroup make it to last night’s meeting to discuss the construction of a new track in the city? I had a prior engagement at the very same time (7-9pm) so I couldn’t attend. I’ve heard about it on CBC radio this morning, but I can’t find anything on newspapers’ websites. They didn’t specify that it was an indoor one. The sense I got last week is that this what was going to be debated, not another outdoor facility. Speaking of our outdoor track, the French delegation at the Francophone Games had derogatory things to say about it. The track itself is fine; it’s the buildings, etc. around it that aren’t up to par with worlds or olympic standards… Thanks for any info, Daniel
Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site
Thanks, Ken. Will that report be made public in an accessible form (online)? What was the gist of the "spirited" interventions? Cheers, Daniel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was more of a presentation. A consultant hired by the City has come up with a short-list of several possible sites one of which is at Carleton University. A draft report is to go the City tomorrow. We were told that this project is being fast-tracked by the Mayor’s office which seems like a good sign. There were around 60 people in attendance and some "spirited" discussion which will have no influence on the City’s direction. Ken Did any of the Ottawa-based readers of this newsgroup make it to last night’s meeting to discuss the construction of a new track in the city? I had a prior engagement at the very same time (7-9pm) so I couldn’t attend. I’ve heard about it on CBC radio this morning, but I can’t find anything on newspapers’ websites. They didn’t specify that it was an indoor one. The sense I got last week is that this what was going to be debated, not another outdoor facility. Speaking of our outdoor track, the French delegation at the Francophone Games had derogatory things to say about it. The track itself is fine; it’s the buildings, etc. around it that aren’t up to par with worlds or olympic standards… Thanks for any info, Daniel Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site
– Daniel Pierre-Antoine Dept. of Political Science Carleton University 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, ON K1L 5B6
There were no plans to put the report on the internet. The City will Ext.24385. Two of the main "concerns" raised were: 1. The lack of attention to the fact that athletes need an interim facility starting this winter until the process produces a long term solution (assuming of course that it does). We have the Commonwealth Games next year and the Athens Olympics in 3 years. It is doubtful we will have a new permanent facility before then. We are coming off a year – 2000_ in which the outdoor facility was not available. 2. The concern that a "multi-use" facility, possibly using an existing building, was not of the options. The concern was that with only high end options being considered (at a high cost) it might be considered too pricey and result in yet another study which leads nowhere. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks, Ken. Will that report be made public in an accessible form (online)? What was the gist of the "spirited" interventions? Cheers, Daniel It was more of a presentation. A consultant hired by the City has come up with a short-list of several possible sites one of which is at Carleton University. A draft report is to go the City tomorrow. We were told that this project is being fast-tracked by the Mayor’s office which seems like a good sign. There were around 60 people in attendance and some "spirited" discussion which will have no influence on the City’s direction. Ken Did any of the Ottawa-based readers of this newsgroup make it to last night’s meeting to discuss the construction of a new track in the city? I had a prior engagement at the very same time (7-9pm) so I couldn’t attend. I’ve heard about it on CBC radio this morning, but I can’t find anything on newspapers’ websites. They didn’t specify that it was an indoor one. The sense I got last week is that this what was going to be debated, not another outdoor facility. Speaking of our outdoor track, the French delegation at the Francophone Games had derogatory things to say about it. The track itself is fine; it’s the buildings, etc. around it that aren’t up to par with worlds or olympic standards… Thanks for any info, Daniel Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site
Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
Hmm. Missed this thread the first time around. I got hit the the head by a fastball when I was a boy, fell off the rings on my head in gymnastics in high school and got hit on the head with a golf ball crossing an athletic field in college. None of these things happened when I was an infant, so this explains why I didn’t take up triathlon until I was in the 40-44 age group. –Lee Crumbaugh (Tri-Hard) P.S. Hi Ruth.
I was wasting time looking for nothing. In addition to successfully finding nothing I came across an rst thread from a bit more than a year ago. Seeing it all on one page struck me as really nutty, the best I’ve seen on any newsgroup. The subject is Why Do I Do Triathlons or something like that. It’s at: http://www.imb-jena.de/~csc/Tria_net/what_makes.html Ruth Kazez
Ruth, I do triathlons because I keep meeting people like you, Rich DaVico, Mike, Phil, well, I could just go on with this. It’s the race directors. volunteers and countless triathletes that provide my motivation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was wasting time looking for nothing. In addition to successfully finding nothing I came across an rst thread from a bit more than a year ago. Seeing it all on one page struck me as really nutty, the best I’ve seen on any newsgroup. The subject is Why Do I Do Triathlons or something like that. It’s at: http://www.imb-jena.de/~csc/Tria_net/what_makes.html Ruth Kazez
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ruth, I do triathlons because I keep meeting people like you, Rich DaVico, Mike, Phil, well, I could just go on with this. It’s the race directors. volunteers and countless triathletes that provide my motivation. I was wasting time looking for nothing. In addition to successfully finding nothing I came across an rst thread from a bit more than a year ago. Seeing it all on one page struck me as really nutty, the best I’ve seen on any newsgroup. The subject is Why Do I Do Triathlons or something like that. It’s at: http://www.imb-jena.de/~csc/Tria_net/what_makes.html Ruth Kazez
Dad, Did you by any chance drop me on my head when I was an infant? I do remember something about hitting a coffee table. Maybe that explains it. Rich DaVico
Does anyone know the kind of times Lance Armstrong ran when he was a youth running road races? I knew Lance was a top HS triathlete, but I have also read that he ran in 10Ks & 5Ks as a youth, from fifth grade on to ??. Thanks, Steve
Don’t know what kind of times he ran, but I did read in the USA today that he was winning local 10K’s while still in middle school. I would guess that would put in the mid 30’s. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know the kind of times Lance Armstrong ran when he was a youth running road races? I knew Lance was a top HS triathlete, but I have also read that he ran in 10Ks & 5Ks as a youth, from fifth grade on to ??. Thanks, Steve
I wanted a set of sealskin socks. Couldn’t find them in the NRS catalog. I’m going to be safety boating for a triathlon here in Phoenix, and my old booties have had it. Perfect excuse to go buy something. Dave non-RBP clique member/Lurker Permit #0437 Necky Tesla & WildSys Alto – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just ordered something today (thursday), and asked if they can get it to me tomorrow morning (Friday) before I leave for a trip I’ll let you know if it gets here A tip: next time you need something in a hurry, try NRS first (http://www.nrsweb.com). They’ve come through for me any many others on fast desperation orders. — :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: r.b.p. clique#4 "They write books that contradict the rocks…"
I just ordered something today (thursday), and asked if they can get it to me tomorrow morning (Friday) before I leave for a trip I’ll let you know if it gets here
A tip: next time you need something in a hurry, try NRS first (http://www.nrsweb.com). They’ve come through for me any many others on fast desperation orders. — :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: r.b.p. clique#4 "They write books that contradict the rocks…"
A few years ago I had a frustrating experience ordering merchandise from WRR. Has there customer service improved, or are they still a company to avoid?
This came up again about 6 months ago and a few people had supportive things to say. I would try ordering again, but tell them FILL or KILL – do not backorder. Let us know how it goes. – Mothra (aka Kathy Streletzky)
I just ordered something today (thursday), and asked if they can get it to me tomorrow morning (Friday) before I leave for a trip I’ll let you know if it gets here – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A few years ago I had a frustrating experience ordering merchandise from WRR. Has there customer service improved, or are they still a company to avoid? This came up again about 6 months ago and a few people had supportive things to say. I would try ordering again, but tell them FILL or KILL – do not backorder. Let us know how it goes. – Mothra (aka Kathy Streletzky)
A few years ago I had a frustrating experience ordering merchandise from WRR. Has there customer service improved, or are they still a company to avoid? Despite a vow to never do business with them again, they do have some products I can find no where else. DonR Lifetime Member of the Secret Clique of RPB Lurkers, ID #19.
hey man – along with the with the clipless pedals + shoes (which can be big $) or pedal straps (used them for years, they’re not bad) make getting a pair of aero bars job #1. they don’t have to be fancy or expensive, just any sort of extension to clip on to your drop handlebars. the time you save just by riding bent over in incredible. i know what you mean about budget — i’m in my first year of university myself. i started out at 15 promising myself i’d never be one of those posers with million-dollar gear, and all these years later i’m a complete addict and spend every free penny on this sport. but i love it. so have fun and make sure you get respect and recognition as a junior athlete! mike callaghan p.s. – make sure you test all this stuff out before race day!
Call Wildflower and find out the bike shops that are associated with them. Then call bike shop and tel them you want to ship a bike there for the tri and for them to hold it till you pick it up. I live in Denver, shipped my bike UPS this way to Vineman. Then send it back same way via a Pak-Mail (or similiar place) out there. They are easy to find. Bike transport on plane is $50 each way. I am sure you must must have transportation (?) of some sort in CA because Wildflower is out in the country with NO towns nearer than about 29 miles, and all that drive on winding two lane roads. NY to Wildflower, first tri, good luck, you bit off a lot to chew. The ride is very hilly, get those straps for peddles, better yet, get a decent pair of clipless pedals.
Hi, I am competing in the Wildflower Olympic Distance Triathlon for the High School Championships. I have been training on a mountain bike and then someone told me that was no good because it was a lot slower. So, I recently was looking to buy a cheap road bike, since I don’t have that much to spend. I bought a used one yesterday from my local bike shop for $130. It looks bad, rusted and stuff, but I road it for 10 miles yesterday to see how it feels, and honestly it was so much faster and it felt really cool as compared to my mountain bike. So, I am satisfied. It is just a basic road bike I guess, I added a water bottle holder thing to it. Also, I wanted to know if I should add those straps on the pedals and anything else you think I should add. I live in NY, and will be flying to CA for the Wildflower, and I also was wondering if any airlines would take the bike and if so how much? or should I just ship it there and back? Well, please let me know what you think. By the way, Im doing this triathlon(first one) because I want to join the Triathlon Team at the US Naval Academy this upcoming fall, and wanted to get a feel for it. Thank you very much. Respectfully, Matthew Schneider
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi, I am competing in the Wildflower Olympic Distance Triathlon for the High School Championships. I have been training on a mountain bike and then someone told me that was no good because it was a lot slower. So, I recently was looking to buy a cheap road bike, since I don’t have that much to spend. I bought a used one yesterday from my local bike shop for $130. It looks bad, rusted and stuff, but I road it for 10 miles yesterday to see how it feels, and honestly it was so much faster and it felt really cool as compared to my mountain bike. So, I am satisfied. It is just a basic road bike I guess, I added a water bottle holder thing to it. Also, I wanted to know if I should add those straps on the pedals and anything else you think I should add. I live in NY, and will be flying to CA for the Wildflower, and I also was wondering if any airlines would take the bike and if so how much? or should I just ship it there and back? Well, please let me know what you think. By the way, Im doing this triathlon(first one) because I want to join the Triathlon Team at the US Naval Academy this upcoming fall, and wanted to get a feel for it. Thank you very much. Respectfully, Matthew Schneider
Shipping the bike there via UPS requires a recipient in California to receive your bike. This could be a friend or maybe even a hotel willing to accept the bike. I’m not sure about the prices that UPS gives since I do not ship my bike that way. Others here have done it and would give you a good price range. As for putting it on the airplane with you, the current domestic bike transport fee is $50 one way. You might get a package deal through various means (like USAmateur and the USA Triathlon Travel Desk) that give you certificates that waive the bike fee, but expect to pay the $50 at Ticketing on the day of the trip. Good luck at Wildflower. 
|26 | IMC’96: 10:36:37 | Fe | IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53 | | "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"
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For the full story- http://www.noosatri.com.au/ Leading the race to the finish line is Loretta Harrop, she has a huge lead over second place Laura Reback and coming in at third place is Barb Lindquist. Fourth place goes to Nicole Hackett followed by Joanne King at fifth place. Following on is Sharon Donnelly, Sian Brice, Haruna Hosoya, Magali Messmer, Gina Derks and then Erika Molnar. Mark Tri-Man Linenberg o __o </_ < __/ /o_ (()) (()) /
The lights were out, everybody had gone, workers were tearing down the stage, and this man comes in. The clock was still ticking for him, but he was too late, no official finisher……It was quite a sad view, especially since this guy may have started some 90 minutes after the first ones, due to the wave start.
I watched this happen for a couple of people at IMH, but with a significant difference. Several volunteers who were closing up shop walked the last few miles with each man and woman. They came in with big satisfied smiles and there was even cheering from the crowds in the restaurant above what had been the finishing line. I don’t think the lack of a medal meant much, but there should be some way they too could have the finisher’s shirt which they earned. Ruth Kazez
I watched this happen for a couple of people at IMH, but with a significant difference. Several volunteers who were closing up shop walked the last few miles with each man and woman. They came in with big satisfied smiles and there was even cheering from the crowds in the restaurant above what had been the finishing line. I don’t think the lack of a medal meant much, but there should be some way they too could have the finisher’s shirt which they earned. Ruth Kazez
This was exactly what I found disappointing. It was a very well organized race, but to have non-official finishers enter a completely dark stadium with only workers who are tearing the place down is an anti-climax. They have a car behind the last participant, so they should know that there are still people on the course. But the organization in Germany doesn’t like slow finishers, and is looking for ways to get rid of them. They are moving towards qualifying races for this purpose as well. I think this will change the sport in a negative way, but they are obviously of another opinion. Gerard Vroomen, Cervelo Cycles website: http://www.cervelo.com
OK, OK stand back, make some room there, don’t push at the back, there’s enough for everyone. Form a queue. What’s that? No, you don’t have to stand 10 metres behind the person in front of you. Here it is, the long awaited 
race report from Roth. Well, my race anyway. In order to avoid posting a 30,000 line message, you can find the report here: http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/roth.htm Being the kind, sweet, thoughtful person that I am*, it’s zipped up in both Word 6 and text formats. Other formats are available upon request (*Source: Mrs Squire, mother to the poster) The Word version is 12KB (The 12 volume, leather bound, gold inlaid version is at the printers) Comments are welcome, although the "you suck" kind are best sent through my agent. Off topic? Well, not really, but if flames were "awarded" for waffle… — Phil Squire Went for it in Roth 98. 11:29:42 http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/homepage.htm ICQ 11599162
Great stuff Phil! I really enjoyed your report- a tear even chanced to my eye! — Slainte, Richard. Arran Triathlon Club – *the going got tough* <snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -In order to avoid posting a 30,000 line message, you can find the report here: http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/roth.htm
thank you, phil, for a wonderful report. very inspiring. anders IM virgin (soon to be IM, at the GFT in Oct.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, OK stand back, make some room there, don’t push at the back, there’s enough for everyone. Form a queue. What’s that? No, you don’t have to stand 10 metres behind the person in front of you. Here it is, the long awaited race report from Roth. Well, my race anyway. In order to avoid posting a 30,000 line message, you can find the report here: http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/roth.htm Being the kind, sweet, thoughtful person that I am*, it’s zipped up in both Word 6 and text formats. Other formats are available upon request (*Source: Mrs Squire, mother to the poster) The Word version is 12KB (The 12 volume, leather bound, gold inlaid version is at the printers) Comments are welcome, although the "you suck" kind are best sent through my agent. Off topic? Well, not really, but if flames were "awarded" for waffle… — Phil Squire Went for it in Roth 98. 11:29:42 http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/homepage.htm ICQ 11599162
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here it is, the long awaited race report from Roth. Well, my race anyway. In order to avoid posting a 30,000 line message, you can find the report here: http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/roth.htm Where??? There’s no link to be found on this page for a race report, Phil. You tease! Tri-Baby
OOOOPS! Never mind! I still had a copy of this page in my cache; the new version came up when I did a reload. My mistake, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Sorry, guys. <:-} Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, OK stand back, make some room there, don’t push at the back, there’s enough for everyone. Form a queue. What’s that? No, you don’t have to stand 10 metres behind the person in front of you. Here it is, the long awaited race report from Roth. Well, my race anyway. In order to avoid posting a 30,000 line message, you can find the report here: http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/NEW/roth.htm
Where??? There’s no link to be found on this page for a race report, Phil. You tease! Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
Phil: Great report. I was one of the 20,000 standing on Solarer Berg, and I have to say it was as amazing standing there as it must have been riding up. You can’t help but rattling away for five hours with this 5 cent Quelle rattle, and loving every second of it. When the pro women went by the first time, Mel Spooner rode by an inch away from me and I yelled my encouragements as loud as I could. She later said she never heard me! As I figured she didn’t, I stood at a quieter spot the second time around, and held up a pre-fab "Deutsche Post Banner" on which everybody could write the name of his/her favorite. Together with the tens of thousands of rattles, these yellow signs of encouragements made this grey day a pretty bright one. And judging by the smile on Mel’s face, she did see me the second time around. It was also amazing to go back at 10.00pm to see the last athletes finish. As Mel says, these people suffer twice as long as she does, so they deserve the encouragement. It was the evening of the World Cup Soccer final, and there was a TV set so people could watch it. 3 people were in front of the TV. 3,000 were still in the stands, cheering on the finishers. Then at 10.30pm, the last finisher and the fire works. We walked around a bit longer and when we walked to the car, one man just walked/crawled into the stadium. The lights were out, everybody had gone, workers were tearing down the stage, and this man comes in. The clock was still ticking for him, but he was too late, no official finisher. It was quite a sad view, especially since this guy may have started some 90 minutes after the first ones, due to the wave start. Normally on a fast course like Ironman Germany that is not much of a problem, but that day, the race wasn’t that fast. While we were feeling sad for this man, he himself seemed just happy to have finished. and he will no doubt be back next year. As will I. Sincerely, Gerard Vroomen, Cervelo Cycles website: http://www.cervelo.com
I have been a triathlete, and thus an avid cross-trainer for over 15 years. The key things when training for more than one sport are to keep everything in balance and to try and get the absolute most out of every work-out. Sometimes this means breaking the rules for training in one particular sport. I work as well and have family commitments. Some things have to go.Some are completely unrelated to sports ie. I watch very little TV. Others are directly related to sports ie. I don’t have time for weight training per say. However, I have taken the time to read and learn that weight training in a weight room offers little conversion to improved fitness and performance on the road. What does work is power work-outs in the specific sports – hills for running and cycling. Also you have to be realistic in your goals. To you truely want to ne a multi-sport athlete or are you looking for great performances in just one sport. Figure out what you really want to do and then structure your time and training accordingly. Steve Fleck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings, I enjoy running and cycling equally. I also like to lift weights (especially for my upperbody strength). Regretfully, like many of you, I work 40 hours a week. Can anyone suggest a training schedule that incorporates these 3 exercises, but does not favor cycling to the detriment of running or vice-versa. All of the cross-training materials I have seen suggest doing activities other than running only ONCE a week, running 4-5 days a week, and 1 rest day. I want to improve in my running AND cycling. As for the weightlifting, 2x a week is plenty for me. Any suggestions? Can I improve my running and cycling simultaneously and not have to sleep in a cardboard box because I’ve quit my 40+ hour a week job? Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Mr. Otis
Mr. Otis, It will be very important for you to find the proper balance of the activities you wish to utilize for cross training. Because they are different activities with different muscular demands, intensities can stay higher day to day, one activity being a break or recovery from the other. Can some weight training be accomplished at home say in 15 to 20 minutes following a run or ride? Can some riding or running be done at the gym on the treadmil or bike? I would recommend you start training with a heart monitor and learn to use it to make your training sessions productive and efficient. Read Sally Edwards book Heart Zone Training. Her system which is based on sound sport science research, is time based all determined by your personal goals and available time. Sally is and exercise physiologist and a world class endurance athlete. She is also the leading US expert in heart monitor based training. Her web site is http://www.heartzone.com. It contains a lot of information. Good luck. Bill Stainbrook Physical educator, endurance athlete and coach
What kind of running races do you want to do well in? If you run mostly 5k and 10k’s like I do, skip the long run and go for a long bike ride once a week (for me (20 – 30 miles). I also try to ride 1 or 2 more times 10 to 16 miles. During the week I run at noon I will take it easy otherwise try for more intensity. In the past I would ride three times a week and run three times a week alternating between cycling and running. This worked out pretty well. Now I can run at noon time so I have increased my running and decreased my cycling somewhat. Bill Fasula – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings, I enjoy running and cycling equally. I also like to lift weights (especially for my upperbody strength). Regretfully, like many of you, I work 40 hours a week. Can anyone suggest a training schedule that incorporates these 3 exercises, but does not favor cycling to the detriment of running or vice-versa. All of the cross-training materials I have seen suggest doing activities other than running only ONCE a week, running 4-5 days a week, and 1 rest day. I want to improve in my running AND cycling. As for the weightlifting, 2x a week is plenty for me. Any suggestions? Can I improve my running and cycling simultaneously and not have to sleep in a cardboard box because I’ve quit my 40+ hour a week job? Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Mr. Otis
Hi, I am lucky that I go to work every day on my bike, giving me the base milage. So I just have to fit the running. But, to answer your question, you have to make choices. Even being very efficient in everything you do you will run out of time. Social life take a toll too. Not loosing time is the only way I could do more, but that even is a choice. I call loosing time: watching tv (most of it), some of the paper reading. But it feels so nice sometime to just relax and do nothing for a while. even if it means watching a "stupid" show on TV. I liked one of the running book I read that had a chapter about psychology of the runner. How running can become an drug, and ruin the rest of your life. I did consider the problem last fall when I was training for a marathon trying to qualify for Bostson (I failed). It was becoming more and more clear that I have to make a deal with my wife about priorities, when and how much BEFORE you take the time. I think it is the same even if you are not married, as long as you understand what you are giving up social and work wise to fit your trainning. Pascal.
Greetings, I enjoy running and cycling equally. I also like to lift weights (especially for my upperbody strength). Regretfully, like many of you, I work 40 hours a week. Can anyone suggest a training schedule that incorporates these 3 exercises, but does not favor cycling to the detriment of running or vice-versa. All of the cross-training materials I have seen suggest doing activities other than running only ONCE a week, running 4-5 days a week, and 1 rest day. I want to improve in my running AND cycling. As for the weightlifting, 2x a week is plenty for me. Any suggestions? Can I improve my running and cycling simultaneously and not have to sleep in a cardboard box because I’ve quit my 40+ hour a week job? Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Mr. Otis