Many races publish the results of their races on line. You could gather thousands of results at one shot. You will find my name on results from USMC marathon, Columbus (OH) marathon, Cincinnati(OH) marathon and Dublin (IE) marathon as well as a number of shorter races. — Joseph E. Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It’s Irish Math
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, I’m interested in gathering race time statistics, so that I can analyze them. If the races you have participated in post the results to a website, please list them here. I’m looking for as many as I can, but limited to the following types of races: – 5K – 10K – Half marathon – Marathon A further restriction is that you can’t have run this distance as part of a triathlon, or any other event where the running is just one part. If I get enough websites, especially American, European, and generally international ones, I will make the results available. Thanks, Richard Rogers
Richard Rogers
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Hi there, I’m interested in gathering race time statistics, so that I can analyze them. If the races you have participated in post the results to a website, please list them here. I’m looking for as many as I can, but limited to the following types of races: – 5K – 10K – Half marathon – Marathon A further restriction is that you can’t have run this distance as part of a triathlon, or any other event where the running is just one part. If I get enough websites, especially American, European, and generally international ones, I will make the results available. Thanks, Richard Rogers
I, too, missed the meeting and would appreciate any info on how it went. Thanks very much, Cam Wilson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Runner’s Web Newsgroups: rec.running I missed the meeting last night regarding the Ottawa Indoor Track study. If anyone on this group was there I would appreciate a report. Thanks. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
I missed the meeting last night regarding the Ottawa Indoor Track study. If anyone on this group was there I would appreciate a report. Thanks. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal
Steven, I remember reading a few weeks ago that Uncle Les was stepping down. Is he going to stay or leave? Thanks, Rick Having our event in the Olympics is a terrible thing to waste (drafting or not…)
Having our sport in the Olympics IS a waste.
Steven, I remember reading a few weeks ago that Uncle Les was stepping down. Is he going to stay or leave? Thanks, Rick Having our event in the Olympics is a terrible thing to waste (drafting or not…)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK – so this is a letter from the European rep on the ITU. It has been circulating since Sunday. But just in case any of you had any lingering doubts about the mnagement style of the ITU, please see the attached. The court action referred to is the case in Vancouver, brought against Les McDonald’s ITU by six national federations, including Germany, Poland, Costa Rica and Ireland, alleging vote fixing at the 2000 ITU Congress and financial irregularities by the man who was forced to resign from TriCan. Anne-Marie Gschwend Z
I am amazed at her athletic talent in that she cranked out a 4th at the Olympics and turned around a few weeks later and finished 5th at Hawaii. What kind of training hours leading up to the olympics was she putting in that alowed her to quickly turn over to ironman distance? Did she feel that she had enough recovery time after the olympics? How did she keep her mental edge/motivation to peak for both distances? ~j
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott
I would love to learn more about her actual training program…. isn’t she finishing up a Ph.D.?? Maybe she has some good insights on fitting training into a busy (i.e. age grouper) schedule…. brian Charlotte, NC
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would love to learn more about her actual training program…. isn’t she finishing up a Ph.D.?? Maybe she has some good insights on fitting training into a busy (i.e. age grouper) schedule…. brian Charlotte, NC Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott
I agree w/ him, the training program she uses, while balancing PhD work. Who coaches her? Ive seen her in Spinervals, maybe Troy? Amazing talent, think she’ll step up to the next level(win) at Kona soon. Ronnie Godwin Bainbridge, Georgia
Go to http://www.triathlonacademy.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl Triathlon Academy has her training log. Very interesting. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would love to learn more about her actual training program…. isn’t she finishing up a Ph.D.?? Maybe she has some good insights on fitting training into a busy (i.e. age grouper) schedule…. brian Charlotte, NC Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott I agree w/ him, the training program she uses, while balancing PhD work. Who coaches her? Ive seen her in Spinervals, maybe Troy? Amazing talent, think she’ll step up to the next level(win) at Kona soon. Ronnie Godwin Bainbridge, Georgia
Ask her about her Superbowl party. Ask her about the nickname her friends use for her - "The General" , and about a particular photo on the wall of Trispeed with her leg swung over Schwingding’s shoulders. Ask her how come when she says she’s going for a 3 hour ride, she means 3 hours out, and the rest of the world means 3 hours out and back. You only get sucked into that one once! Howz that? Schwingding
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott
Hi all, I’m doing an interview/profile with Joanna Zieger for Inside Triathlon magazine and I thought it’d be cool to get you, the triathlon audience, involved. So, let me know what you’d like to know about Joanna. I probably won’t be able to fit everyone’s questions in but I’ll do the best I can with the space I have. Here’s a quick review of Joanna’s 2000 season: -finished 4th in the Olympic triathlon -finished 5th in the Hawaiian Ironman -won St. Anthony’s and St. Croix -won US Pro Championships -qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon -named Triathlete of the Year by USA Triathlon -named Competitor of the Year by Competitor magazine -she also successfully defended her Ph.D. thesis in genetic epidemiology at John Hopkins University in January Thanks for your interest and I look forward to all your responses. All the best, Scott
To clarify what i posted before this is from the British Triathlon website Rules for 2000 h.Handlebars must be plugged and must not carry gear or brake levers that project horizontally beyond their foremost point, tyres must be well glued (if applicable), headsets tight, and wheels true. i.Handlebar add-ons must be positioned so as to prevent injury in the event of a crash or collision with other competitors or spectators. Brake levers must be turned backwards. PLEASE NOTE: It is required, as it always has been, that control levers do not project forwards – this means that bar-end shifters are NOT legal when used at the front of aerobars. Gear shifters that are contained within the aerobars, such as the Syntace Aeroshift, are legal. All bar ends must be plugged. Dave Norman Press Officer Cleveland Triathlon Club www.clevelandtriathlon.co.uk
If you’re still worried about bridged/non-bridged, go for a syntace pair, which allows you to add a bridge later if you have to: have a look at www.syntace.com
Or check out www.cinelli.it for their New Corna tribars with accessories which both bridge the ends of the bars and provide a mounting plate for the gear levers between the bar extensions. — Bob Mortimer
I believe the rule is that you can’t leave the ends open. You need to plug them either with standard bar-end plugs or shifters. The theory is that a plugged bar-end is less likely to impale someone in an accident than an open-ended bar end. So, if your bike shop has cheap plastic plugs to fit into the end of the bars, you’re back in business. John A. Franczyk/Park Ridge
joe this is an excert from the 2000 edition British Triathlon Assoc hand/ rulebook handlebars must be plugged and must not carry gear or brake leavers that project horizontally beyond there foremost point . handlebar addons must be positioned so as to prevent injury in the event of a crash or collision with other competitors or spectators. Brake and other levers must be turned backwards with no part of the lever projecting horizontally in front of the foremost part of the bar. All bar ends must be plugged. the only bar end shifters that are legal are syntace aeroshift. hope this is of some use Dave norman Press Officer Cleveland Triathlon Club http://www.clevelandtriathlon.co.uk
He asked about them being open ended, as opposed to having the ends joining together in a closed loop, not anything to do with bare ends of pipe sticking out the front of his ride! Unfortunately, I can’t shed any light on this myself, other than correcting the obvious mistake. Thanx…PSB. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – joe this is an excert from the 2000 edition British Triathlon Assoc hand/ rulebook handlebars must be plugged and must not carry gear or brake leavers that project horizontally beyond there foremost point . handlebar addons must be positioned so as to prevent injury in the event of a crash or collision with other competitors or spectators. Brake and other levers must be turned backwards with no part of the lever projecting horizontally in front of the foremost part of the bar. All bar ends must be plugged. the only bar end shifters that are legal are syntace aeroshift. hope this is of some use Dave norman Press Officer Cleveland Triathlon Club http://www.clevelandtriathlon.co.uk
This unfortunately may be the case in the rest of the world BUT here in the UK the British Triathlon Federation has banned not only open ended tri bars but also bar end shifters (although gripshift are ok)
Are you sure? Check out http://www.britishtriathlon.co.uk/rules.html for the 2000 British rules Greg Banner Now the important part ! Last year this was not really enforced but this year it will be ! If you are adamant you want open ended bars then just keep a small length of garden hose with you ! If the race organizers bother to check then you can slip on the hose and hey presto your bars are nicely bridged !
Sound advice – especially if there is any doubt over the matter.
An extrtact from the ITU web site. http://www.worldsport.com/worldsport/sports/triathlon/comp_rules/comp… E.3.6 Handlebars For elite and junior competitors in Triathlon World Cups, Olympic Games, ITU Regional Championships, ITU International Events, the following rule on handlebars apply: (Note: This rule will not apply to age group competitions or long distance events). a) Only traditional drop handlebars are permitted b) Clip-ons will be permitted provided they do not extend more than 15 cm beyond the front wheel axle, and they are not longer than the brake levers’ foremost line. c) Straight forward clip-ons must be bridged, and must not carry forward facing brake levers d) No forward facing bar or gear shifters are allowed on the end of the clip-ons. The only exception will be grip shifters. e) Elbow pads are permitted. I recently went into my local bike shop to order a Bianchi Daytona together with some Tri bars. I wanted to order a set which were open ended (i.e not joined at the ends), but was informed that these were against Triathlon regulations. This confused me as alot of the pictures that I have seen of triathletes show them with open ended tri bars, albeit with gear shifters at the ends. Could you please let me know what the regalations are on tri bars. Thanks. In the UK the rules do seem to be different from the states ( and the rest of the world). For a while it seemed that tri bars had to bridged across the ends. This requirements does seem to have been droped in the latest regulations. Having the bar end shifters it still NOT allowed. The rule states that shifters may not project past the ends of bars. Personally I use syntace tri bars with the aero link on which the shifters are mounted. Syntace also produce a end link to bridge the ends of the bars. I never bougnt this as it limits the amont of adjustability of the bars. Instead I used a short lenght of hose pipe inserted in the ends of the bars wrapped in handlebar tape – it is actually very confortable to hold on to! As I said you may not have to do this anymore. If you do just use end plugs on the bars, buy some extras and keep one with your spare tube as they are always falling out of the ends, and it is not worth being disquallified over. In a previous post I said the whole bar end issue is pointless but the rules are the rules 
. Interesting enough in the cycling world time trialls (TTs) have different rules and are allowed to use bar end shifters.
I am not sure I know in germany you can not use bar end shifters you have ton use grip shift etc. pc
I thought they had funky rules about that in the UK (original poster is from there…) … as one poster implied. IIRC, the Brits have very different rules about those kinds of things than the rest of the world.
Yeah, unfortunately this is right. BUT the BTA has not yet outlawed non-bridged tribars. They did think about doing so a couple of years ago, but didn’t follow it through. So (to the original poster) your LBS was wrong. As other posters have said, you must plug the end of the bars (to stop you getting a core sample of someone’s leg in a crash) and you can’t have bar end shifters on tri bars for BTA races. If you’re still worried about bridged/non-bridged, go for a syntace pair, which allows you to add a bridge later if you have to: have a look at www.syntace.com Happy racing Greg Banner
This unfortunately may be the case in the rest of the world BUT here in the UK the British Triathlon Federation has banned not only open ended tri bars but also bar end shifters (although gripshift are ok) Now the important part ! Last year this was not really enforced but this year it will be ! If you are adamant you want open ended bars then just keep a small length of garden hose with you ! If the race organizers bother to check then you can slip on the hose and hey presto your bars are nicely bridged ! Stef
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe the rule is that you can’t leave the ends open. You need to plug them either with standard bar-end plugs or shifters. The theory is that a plugged bar-end is less likely to impale someone in an accident than an open-ended bar end. So, if your bike shop has cheap plastic plugs to fit into the end of the bars, you’re back in business. John A. Franczyk/Park Ridge
This rule is inly true if you are a pro ,you can have open end aero bars all you want as long as you dont plan on doing ITU events. Have fun with your new bike. Pete Coulson
: This rule is inly true if you are a pro ,you can have open end aero bars all : you want as long as you dont plan on doing ITU events. I thought they had funky rules about that in the UK (original poster is from there…) … as one poster implied. IIRC, the Brits have very different rules about those kinds of things than the rest of the world. Anyone? Mike
dude – you’ll likely never have any problems at local races or such. even at ironman races, the open-ended bars are OK — people like Jurgen Zack use them all the time. the only problem might be with qualifiers and actual races in ITU-type spheres. i think the itu requires that aerobars be the all one curved piece rather than the two seperate extensions – type design because of the possibility that the extensions could hook someone. or something. anyway, i’d go for the bars if they’re a decent price and if you really like them. if you’re required because of anyone’s regulations to race on the aforementioned "legal" bars, just do like many pros do — make a "bridge" with some cardboard and a bit of electricians tape. sure cheaper than a new set. . . good vibes – mike
I recently went into my local bike shop to order a Bianchi Daytona together with some Tri bars. I wanted to order a set which were open ended (i.e not joined at the ends), but was informed that these were against Triathlon regulations. This confused me as alot of the pictures that I have seen of triathletes show them with open ended tri bars, albeit with gear shifters at the ends. Could you please let me know what the regalations are on tri bars. Thanks.
When I first started thrashing about on my bike, I considered an average of 30 km/hr. (19 mph. approx) for an hour or so to be pretty good. You might want to try alternating your bike workouts a little bit. If you are riding 3 – 4 times a week, then try to have at least one of the workouts at a faster pace than the others. If you haven’t been riding for long, you shouldn’t make it a gut buster, but definately go harder than you usually do. I wouldn’t worry about make your workouts anal-retentively structured, just push a little harder each week, trying for a faster time around the course. As for the other workouts, keep them on an even pace and don’t push hard. I really don’t know the course, so I can’t comment on the hills. However, for your slow rides, sit down in the saddle and spin. On your hard ride, see how lon^j72V you can stay out of the saddle for. (On the climbs)sy^}KE”%+Ya%0!{Q( Happy riding David Barclay IMC 1997: 11:55:59 Triathlon: "Swim, Bike, Crawl"
I remember reading something about 40k/hr. as being something of a milestone for people. This seems very fast! You ain’t kiddin’!!!!!
Hmmmm… my trusty palmtop computer translates 40kpm to just under 25mph. That is fast for an entire race average, especially if there are any hills. However, that does not seem too fast for a flat course. I’m not bragging, but I easily average 23-24mph/37-38kph on flats or slight rolling hills. I’ve even pushed 25-26mph/40-42kph when I know the course. Unfortunately, my 10-15mph average on hills brings my overall average down to about 20mph/32kph. And that is not anywhere close to being at the front of the pack… 40km/hr??? That seems like an incredible speed. I need a downhill just to get that fast even for 30 seconds.
Sounds like you need more time on the bike, or more downhills 
So what to do??? Just keep at it, keep on training and see what your genes are going to do for you. And enjoy it.
Definitely, more cycling mixed with other training will improve your times. I have some questions. My bike is a really *basic* 12 speed, but fortunately with a relatively narrow ‘racing’ saddle and the ‘thin’ tyres, is that 700*20c ??? Is this likely to stop me reaching higher speeds, say 35kph ???
Not likely. I’ve been passed by cyclists on mountain bikes with FAT tires. A good pair of legs will do wonders to your time… David reply to wuth – family – atlanta (remove the spaces) at att dot net
Since you can only compete against yourself, I have concluded the only way to judge is to get a Heart Rate Monitor. Record your times and average Heart Rates. It is too easy to slack off otherwise. Fred
Since you can only compete against yourself, I have concluded the only way to judge is to get a Heart Rate Monitor. Record your times and average Heart Rates. It is too easy to slack off otherwise.
Yes, I have one on back order from RoadRunner Sports. I should have it by the first week in May (knock wood). I really hope that, if used properly, this little gadget will help me improve by leaps and bounds! Lance — | Lance Ball | Imagination is greater than knowledge. – A.E. | 97 E9 02 55 96 39 AE C9 FC AE D1 AF 46 6A AB 7D
Lance: All depends on your level of natural talent of course. But I would say aim at 20 mph average for a 20-miler. Then 21. Then, if attainable, 22. Timothy Carlson
For instance, I usually average about 18mph on a 20 mile ride. This seems slow.
Slow, fast, it is what it is. I remember reading something about 40k/hr. as being something of a milestone for people. This seems very fast!
You ain’t kiddin’!!!!! I’m a runner who has been trying to add some biking once a week over the last couple of months (only 5 outings to date 
). 40km/hr??? That seems like an incredible speed. I need a downhill just to get that fast even for 30 seconds. So what to do??? Just keep at it, keep on training and see what your genes are going to do for you. And enjoy it. Personally I’m just using a 4.0 km flat loop and hammering round that 4 or 5 times. Already I’ve progressed from av. 8:05 /lap to av. 7:36 /lap. Not very scientific, but great fun. And my current target is to get to 5 laps with an av. < 7:30. I have some questions. My bike is a really *basic* 12 speed, but fortunately with a relatively narrow ‘racing’ saddle and the ‘thin’ tyres, is that 700*20c ??? Is this likely to stop me reaching higher speeds, say 35kph ??? Or is a lot of the modern (read expensive) stuff of relatively marginal benefit, i.e. a bike like this would have been more than ample for racing 30-40 yrs ago. Is there an easy way to know when the saddle is at the correct height?? Any tips for getting the tyres well pumped?? Miles — Cut the 0_fin~SPAM_ to email back to me
Hi RST’ers I’ve been lurking on this newsgroup for the last couple of months — all the while training away for my first (well really my second, my first was in 1988 on a whim, so it doesn’t really count) triathlon. It’s a sprint 1/4m S, 16m B, 3.1m R in June. I started riding around the first of Feb. and have been getting in 3-4 10-20 mile rides per week. At first, all my rides were on a mag trainer, then as the weather has been nicer, in Central Park. CP is a moderately hilly 6 mile loop with elevation changes of +-80 feet, the most extreme being a 60ft climb in about 1/4 – 1/2 mile. BTW, is this considered "hilly"?
It really depends on where you are from in the country and the terrain that you are used to. I’ve done a bunch of bike/rollerblade races in the past in CP, and most pure cyclists (including me, whose a triathlete) from the area would say that CP is basically flat, with a couple of rolling hills, none of which are difficult or steep to ascend. Consider this, in CP bike races I’ve done, the speed would never dip below 20 mph, of course the drafting effect helps this out. I’ve done a lot of tris in the NJ area, and most of them have bike courses that are quite a bit flatter or similarly as "hilly" to CP. By the way, I’m in Georgia now, and when I train with friends from south Florida, *any* rise in terrain seems like a hill to them, and if the temperature drops below 50 F, it’s too cold for ‘em to train outside. I have a couple of questions about my rides. I’ve been getting a little frustrated because I cannot keep up with other bikers I see in the park, and I’d like to know what kinds of times I should be expecting and pushing towards.
Many of the cyclists you see in the park that are passing you are probably doing 150-200+ miles per week, and have probably been cycling for many years. For instance, I usually average about 18mph on a 20 mile ride. This seems slow.
It may seem slow, but if you are riding only about 60 miles per week, 18mph is fairly representative of the training you are doing. Now if you were to double your miles to about 110 miles/week, and do something like an easy 15 miler, 2 x hard 20-25 milers, and 1x 45 miler for endurance on your weekend, per week you would see your cycling improve by leaps and bounds. I remember reading something about 40k/hr. as being something of a milestone for people. This seems very fast!
It is fast, and that pace (24.84 mph) would put you in the most likely in the top 10 fastest splits at any local triathlon that you may particpate in. Also averaging 40k/hr is mainly referring to a flat course, and CP wouldn’t qualify as a flat course. Is there anyone here who has experinence on the CP loop who can attest to speeds of that sort on this course?
I’ve done it plenty of times, but they were USCF bike races (allows drafting), therefore my speeds wouldn’t mean much to you, but there’ve been typically around 26.5mph – 27.5 mph average which isn’t all that fast for the course (I was a cat III USCF at the time). As someone who has only been seriously doing saddle time for 2 months, I realize that 40k/hr is unattainable.
Your doing quite well for *only* 2 months. When you increase your saddle time per week, your speed/endurance will improve dramatically. I don’t know your age, but even if you are over 50, you can still improve massively. But where should I be setting my sights? And what kinds of training should I be doing to attain these goals?
See previous mileage suggestions. BTW, most people were once in your place. Everyone has to start somewhere. In my first races, my average bike speed was around 20-21 mph, with 60-70 miles/week of training, which was mainly at 18-19mph. Once I increased my miles, my avg speeds in races dramatically improved. For example, last year on about 150 miles/week I rode a 56:34 for the 40k at Memphis in May, quite an improvement from the 20 mph race days. Good Luck, Mark Tri-Man Linenberg o __o </_ < __/ /o_ (()) (()) /
Hi RST’ers I’ve been lurking on this newsgroup for the last couple of months — all the while training away for my first (well really my second, my first was in 1988 on a whim, so it doesn’t really count) triathlon. It’s a sprint 1/4m S, 16m B, 3.1m R in June. I started riding around the first of Feb. and have been getting in 3-4 10-20 mile rides per week. At first, all my rides were on a mag trainer, then as the weather has been nicer, in Central Park. CP is a moderately hilly 6 mile loop with elevation changes of +-80 feet, the most extreme being a 60ft climb in about 1/4 – 1/2 mile. BTW, is this considered "hilly"? I have a couple of questions about my rides. I’ve been getting a little frustrated because I cannot keep up with other bikers I see in the park, and I’d like to know what kinds of times I should be expecting and pushing towards. For instance, I usually average about 18mph on a 20 mile ride. This seems slow. I remember reading something about 40k/hr. as being something of a milestone for people. This seems very fast! Is there anyone here who has experinence on the CP loop who can attest to speeds of that sort on this course? As someone who has only been seriously doing saddle time for 2 months, I realize that 40k/hr is unattainable. But where should I be setting my sights? And what kinds of training should I be doing to attain these goals? Thanks for any advice! Lance — | Lance Ball | Imagination is greater than knowledge. – A.E. | 97 E9 02 55 96 39 AE C9 FC AE D1 AF 46 6A AB 7D
My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you experienced ladies out there. Thanks in advance, Malte
I have a Georgiana Terry saddle (don’t remember the name of the style) that has the cutout in the front with a little wider seat that I have had for about 4 years on two different bikes. Terry makes alot of womens saddle and bike clothes and equip for women only. Good luck, Deb
: My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she : rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither : one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you : experienced ladies out there. : : Thanks in advance, : : Malte I’ve been riding a Vetta women’s saddle for six years now and I’m very comfortable in it. I think it cost around $25, when I got it, but my memory isn’t too clear. Women vary, riding styles vary, and there are now a number of companies that make women’s saddles. Is there a bike shop near you that will let her try out a few different saddles? The problem, of course, is that a trip around the block won’t tell you how the seat will feel after 50 miles…. Hope this helps. Heide New York City
My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you experienced ladies out there. Thanks in advance, Malte
Hi! I’ve been using the Terry Racing Saddle for the past year. I can testify that save mounting a big old overstuffed recliner on my seat post, I thought I would never find comfort in the bike saddle. This seat is NOT clunky or huge (a la those spring loaded beach cruiser saddles), but somehow works very well for the female geography. Mention to your wife that in addition to buying a woman’s saddle, it is also absolutely not a waste of money, rather a wise investment to buy WOMEN’s Cycling shorts. I find Cannondale and Pearl Izumi to be the best. I don’t find that Performance or Nashbar have a lot of comfort to offer. They’re great for other things, but for the bike shorts, you have to spend the money and try them out. I now log many happy miles and owe my first race season last year (including a 1/2 IM) to this wisdom. Kendra
My wife has tried them all – first it was the Selle Italia Lady Turbo – that was better than the seat that came with her bike, but not much. She then tried the Terry women’s racing saddle, which was a big improvement – but still not great. Finally, another local triathlete turned her on to the T-Gear Pinnacle saddle. You may have seen these, they have a large hole in the center of the saddle. Since she got it she’s been riding problem free. -Darrin
My wife has tried them all – first it was the Selle Italia Lady Turbo – that was better than the seat that came with her bike, but not much. She then tried the Terry women’s racing saddle, which was a big improvement – but still not great. Finally, another local triathlete turned her on to the T-Gear Pinnacle saddle. You may have seen these, they have a large hole in the center of the saddle. Since she got it she’s been riding problem free – guess I’ll need a new birthday idea this year… -Darrin
I use a Terry women’s racing saddle with a QR Mr. Softie saddle cover. I’ve just ordered a Mt. Softie which has thicker neoprene all over. I think the key to finding a saddle that fits is measuring the distance between your bones and getting a saddle that gives your bones support so that you have three points bearing your weight instead of just one. I also find that aero-position is more comfortable for me than a regular upright position. And I agree that womens shorts are a thousand times better than mens. Although you’ve got to be careful. Some of the things that are passed off as womens shorts have a seam right across the front which makes NO sense to me.
My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you experienced ladies out there. Thanks in advance, Malte
My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you experienced ladies out there. Thanks in advance, Malte
Malte, I am not a lady, but I train with several very fast ones. Two of them use the Avocet O2 Ladies’ racing saddle, which has the plastic shell cut out under the nose. This saddle is as light as they come (210gm), while being very cush. It is, however, also one of the more expensive saddles out there (about $85US). They seem to think that it is worth the price. BTW, I also know of several male triathletes who also use the O2 ladies’ saddle to help relieve the pressure while in the aerobars. I have the conventional model myself and love it. Cameron
I had a lot of trouble finding a comfortable saddle. I found that "women’s" saddles did nothing for me -except the too wide back pushed me onto a too short nose-NOT comfortable. I’ve finally settled on the Vetta TT Trishock MTB saddle- It’s fairly light (sorry, don’t have the weight) & has some give. I have one on both my road bike and my mountain bike, if that tells you how much I like it. Sue
My wife is lokking for a light and comfortable saddle for her bike (she rides a road frame with syntace clip-ons) since her old one is neither one nor the other. We`d be grateful for any tips and comments from you experienced ladies out there.
If you can find one any more, the Selle Italia Lady Turbo is probably the most comfortable saddle I’ve ever ridden. I don’t know if they’re still making them, however. And they may be a tad heavier than the newer saddles. Right now I have a Lady Turbo on my "second" bike, and a Selle San Marco Squadra HDP (women’s) on my racing machine. Both are excellent saddles. The Squadra is considerably lighter, and only slightly less comfy than the Turbo. Good luck! A comfortable saddle is tough to find, because you can never really be sure until you’ve ridden several miles on it, and how often will a shop allow you to test ride a dozen different saddles? Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie
When PSE wanted to obtain athlete spokespersons for the 1996 Triathlon World Cup it was turned down even though the athletes involved were offered $50,000 for the job.
"It was turned down." Turned down by whom? To whom did PSE put their request? I’m just not sure I understand exactly what happened here. This is what I *think* you’re saying: PSE asked a number of athletes to act as spokespersons for the ‘96 World Cup. Each of the athletes whom they asked turned them down, citing their dislike for Les McDonald as the reason. HOWEVER, this could also be interpreted as: PSE asked Les McDonald and the ITU to provide athlete spokespersons for the ‘96 World Cup. Les turned PSE down and said "No athlete spokespersons" because he knew none of the athletes liked him. Can you just clarify? Thanks! The athletes involved reported this to USA Triathlon. The reason given by the athletes for the turn down was their dislike of Les McDonald. The athletes who finally accepted the offer became spokespersons for PSE and not for the ITU; that is to say their contracts are not with the ITU but are with PSE. Why?
Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft!" http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie
STEVE LOCKE’S ITU ELECTION PLATFORM – RELEASE VIII When Steve Locke announced his candidacy by means of a posting on RST he promised that he would also post his election platform. This is the eighth in the series of Steve’s election platform planks. Since there are nine planks, the Election Platform Series will run for a total of 16 days. After the initial run, USA Triathlon will decide whether it should repeat the postings. For those who want a copy of the full platform, please send Your interest and support are welcomed. ITU: ATHLETES When PSE wanted to obtain athlete spokespersons for the 1996 Triathlon World Cup it was turned down even though the athletes involved were offered $50,000 for the job. The athletes involved reported this to USA Triathlon. The reason given by the athletes for the turn down was their dislike of Les McDonald. The athletes who finally accepted the offer became spokespersons for PSE and not for the ITU; that is to say their contracts are not with the ITU but are with PSE. Why? The ITU Executive Board needs to be revamped to include two athletes chosen by athletes. A program must be begun to find the true athlete heroes of our sport to help us make the sport better known and more widely followed. The present ITU management is incapable of achieving that goal. The present ITU management hopes that the sport’s leading athletes just get too old to compete. I pledge to you, the ITU members, that I will, as the ITU President, bring the sport’s athletes into full support of and in harmony with the ITU.
(Deborah Jamison) writes: Thanks Deb for the plug for UltraCoach!! UltraCoach will run on Mac via Power PC or with the hardware addition As to other training software in Mac–all the others are log and diaries and you have to fend for yourself otherwise…..
Dear Ken, I guess you are mistaken about all other Mac software, PC Coach offers both a logbook AND training plans – written by professional runners and their coaches – it IS AVAILABLE for both MAC and Windows – Mac users need to have at least Mac OS 6.0.7 or better. Call 1-800-52-COACH for demo/info. PC Coach will have an ftp site up later this week – we’re testing it to make sure it works before we announce..
(Deborah Jamison) writes: I want to second the request for a Mac version. Al Wagener For Mac software, be sure to check
alumni.caltech.edu/pub/slp/tadmac.sit – The Athlete’s Diary (also available for Windows and DOS). Deborah Jamison Stevens Creek Software
Thanks Deb for the plug for UltraCoach!! UltraCoach will run on Mac via Power PC or with the hardware addition being a 486 new version expansion card. We have thought of writing a version for Mac but the platforms are merging and it seems like time is better spent enhancing the present program and translating it into several languages including Japanese, German, Spanish and French. Spanish is nearly done including manual, etc. This is not respecting of the Mac user, I know. Please understand that the confusion of the hardware trends creates a dilemna. As to other training software in Mac–all the others are log and diaries and you have to fend for yourself otherwise. So please do not be confused by TADs aspirations, they deliver a satisfactory diary, but nothing interactive and training oriented. Please refer to the review in Triathlete Mag for details. Thank you, Ken
I want to second the request for a Mac version. Al Wagener
For Mac software, be sure to check alumni.caltech.edu/pub/slp/tadmac.sit – The Athlete’s Diary (also available for Windows and DOS). Deborah Jamison Stevens Creek Software
Now that it’s just a few hours before the dawn of New Year’s Eve (day), I feel it appropriate to post the following news item: SAN FRANCISCO, CA – Two regular readers and posters on rec.running, Mike "Triathlete Wannabee and National Class Marathoner Soon to be" Kail and Loreen "SemiIronPerson" Prinz, will be married today in the "city by the bay" (one of many, actually). Will they merge their E-mail accounts? Stay tuned… Please join me in a wish for Loreen and Mike to swim, run, and bike their way through life happily together. That tandem you see entered in the next Ironman – that’ll be them. * Steve Patt * * occasional training partner of the bride and groom * * The Athlete’s Diary for Windows, Macintosh, and DOS * * "Get more out of your log than you put into it" * This message was sent from CityNet, Inc.
Now that it’s just a few hours before the dawn of New Year’s Eve (day), I feel it appropriate to post the following news item: SAN FRANCISCO, CA – Two regular readers and posters on rec.running, Mike "Triathlete Wannabee and National Class Marathoner Soon to
bzzzzttttt, wrong answer 3% bodyfat sinks like a ROCK! be" Kail and Loreen "SemiIronPerson" Prinz, will be married today in the "city by the bay" (one of many, actually). Will they merge their E-mail accounts? Stay tuned…
No merger is planned, we’re still both computer geeks as well. Please join me in a wish for Loreen and Mike to swim, run, and bike their way through life happily together. That tandem you see entered in the next Ironman – that’ll be them.
Thanks, and if you *ever* see me on the Ironman course, shoot me, for I’ve lost _all_ sanity. —