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From some redneck spectator at mile 5 of a 10k I was hobbling to finish after injuring myself:  "He ain’t gonna make it.  I know damn WELL he ain’t gonna make it!"  How’s that for friendly encouragement?

And did you prove them wrong? Or shouldn’t I ask?

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Not that I get a lot of experience shoveling snow in this part of the world… As you’re address is @nowhere.com, may I ask where ‘nowhere’ is? At least we know there’s none of the white stuff…

South Carolina. What little we get, we just let melt.

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"Daddy run daddy run" Every day by my 2 year old boy. (I try vainly to explain on 4 days out of 7 that daddy doesn’t need to today) Infact I’ve just been away for 3 days so my wife was taking him to Nursery and one of the Teachers said to her "He keeps saying ‘Daddy Run’ all day long", so she had to explain that I’m training for a 1/2 marathon. Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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Actually, the chocolate thing was said to me once by a woman on a treadmill. I looked at her kinda puzzled and she said, "You know- you have to run to get rid of the calories from eating chocolate…"

: Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning: "So do : you eat chocolate too?" : : I heard a fat woman say once that eating chocolate gave women a feeling : like being in love.  She may have been trying to put you down, unfortunately; : trying to insinuate that you were lonely, otherwise you couldn’t possibly : be out there running for fun.  She was probably just jealous or something. : : For me?  A few stand out: : : From one of two fat, middle-aged guys walking: "Do you run around and around : the track?" : : From one of two young women (who didn’t look like hookers):  "You get best : legs award."  It didn’t dawn on me what she said until later.  I kept : thinking, "what did she say to me?" : : From some redneck spectator at mile 5 of a 10k I was hobbling to finish : after injuring myself:  "He ain’t gonna make it.  I know damn WELL he : ain’t gonna make it!"  How’s that for friendly encouragement? : : — : Regards, IM

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Hey!  ARE you Ryu or not?  You never answered me! Love the email changes!  LOL

LOL! Nope! I’m definitely NOT Ryu, but I sure wouldn’t mind having some of his abilities though! — ~Summit Wind HAIL to the greatest advance in mass miscommunication that is The Internet! (to contact me, make a VERY obvious change to my email address)

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Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?"

I heard a fat woman say once that eating chocolate gave women a feeling like being in love.  She may have been trying to put you down, unfortunately; trying to insinuate that you were lonely, otherwise you couldn’t possibly be out there running for fun.  She was probably just jealous or something. For me?  A few stand out: From one of two fat, middle-aged guys walking: "Do you run around and around the track?"   From one of two young women (who didn’t look like hookers):  "You get best legs award."  It didn’t dawn on me what she said until later.  I kept thinking, "what did she say to me?" From some redneck spectator at mile 5 of a 10k I was hobbling to finish after injuring myself:  "He ain’t gonna make it.  I know damn WELL he ain’t gonna make it!"  How’s that for friendly encouragement? — Regards, IM

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"If I shorts that short, my butt would hang out"   to which I replied "I can’t help it if you have a fat butt"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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A guy on our road shouted, "The spring’s that way!", and pointed to the creek down the street then got in his car. Another man getting out of his car, made swinging motions at me with his arms. I ignored both of these suggested amendments to my running form and wondered if these guys would appreciate it if I started telling them how to drive!! Anne.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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It was a nice fall day and I was running on a nearby river valley trail.  I met a cyclist on the trail.  I said "hello" and he said "beautiful day…" I agreed, and then as we were ~30 feet apart he hollered back "… if it wasn’t for that pig manure!"  I considered stopping but shook my head and continued onward.  Little did he know he was talking to the only hog farmer within a 6 mile radius of where we stood, and my farm was about 2 miles downwind from where we met?  Maybe he knew me (although I didn’t recognize him) and the comment was meant as an insult?  On the return route, I made a point of using my trained rural nose, and did manage to smell cattle, the woods, and some of the nearby crops, but no pigs until I returned to my yard?  It baffles me to this day? And yes, I eat chocolate too!   Martin.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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1.  "You ain’t nothin’-  I can beat you both!" Said to me and a running buddy by a person of another color while giving us both a very menacing look.  Thought about answering back, since I knew I could take him.  But then I remembered my friend probably couldn’t!  (Maybe he saw my shaved head and thought I was a skinhead.  Funny thing is, I hate racism with a passion) 2.  "Aaaaiiieeeehhhh!"  Said by the girl cleaning the windows inside the Gateway store as I passed by outside, very close and slowing down a bit to look at the computers.  She also dropped the Windex. 3.  "That much exercise is bad for you.  That’s why you catch colds and get the flu."  Said by my 83 yr. old mother-in-law about my running 6 miles 3 times per week.  Of course, I don’t get sick hardly at all, but I don’t guess truth should get in the way of a strong opinion. 4.  "Spandex?  You look like a girl."  My wife as she passed me in the car when I first began wearing tights. 5.  "Some people just don’t have the body to handle running and biking. You’re too weak.  I could do it, though."  Said by wife after I wound-up with knee problems due to a muscle imbalance. 6.  "Screw ‘em.  Screw ‘em all!"  Me during my last triathlon. : 1. Where is your car?  They make cars for that! : 2. Watch out for that Pit Bull ahead (when I lived in Columbus, Ohio). : : : — : : : :

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: 1.  "You ain’t nothin’-  I can beat you both!" : Said to me and a running buddy by a person of another color while giving us : both a very menacing look.  Thought about answering back, since I knew I : could take him.  But then I remembered my friend probably couldn’t! (Maybe : he saw my shaved head and thought I was a skinhead.  Funny thing is, I hate : racism with a passion) :  Quick amendment- by take him, I mean outrun him, not fight him.

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"Get off the sidewalk asshole" from a very elderly… uhh… "gentleman" shoving his snow I thought it was kind of funny actually. All I was doing was happily jogging along… but I guess he thought I was some kind of nut for jogging in the snow All I can say is, it’s a lot more fun than shoving

Maybe he was talking to the snow he was shoveling? Not that I get a lot of experience shoveling snow in this part of the world…

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Not that I get a lot of experience shoveling snow in this part of the world…

As you’re address is @nowhere.com, may I ask where ‘nowhere’ is? At least we know there’s none of the white stuff… Daniel — Daniel Pierre-Antoine Dept. of Political Science Carleton University 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, ON  K1L 5B6

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Hey!  ARE you Ryu or not?  You never answered me! Love the email changes!  LOL

: First, let’s get the most cliched one out of the way: : : "Run!  Forest!  Run!" : : I got that mostly during my cross country training sessions in high school. : I am pretty darn sure that I am not the only runner to have to put up with : that one. : : Then there’s this wierd experience: : : This was when I was in my final year of high school.  I was running through : an alley of my residential neighbourhood when I passed this guy who happened : to be standing on his back porch.  He called out to me, "Hey! Are you Ryu?" : For those of you who don’t know, "Ryu" is the main character of a very : popular video game series called "Street Fighter".  I simply looked at him : without stopping, gave no reply, and continued running. : : Several weeks later, I happened to be running through the same alley and I : passed him again.  This time he shouted out, "Do you know kung fu?"  My : response to him was the same as before. : : To this day I sometimes wonder what the heck that was all about.  The : thought did cross my mind that my being Asian may have had something to do : with it, but, this is Vancouver, BC, where Asians are almost the majority. : I also had spikey hair at the time which resembled the look of many : videogame martial artists, but then, so did many other teenage Asian guys at : the time. : : I guess so things are simply wierd. : : Go figure. : : — : ~Summit Wind : : HAIL to the greatest advance in mass miscommunication that is The Internet! : : (to contact me, make a VERY obvious change to my email address) : :

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1. Where is your car?  They make cars for that! 2. Watch out for that Pit Bull ahead (when I lived in Columbus, Ohio). —

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"Uhhh…that is my mailbox, sir."  Said to me as I was dragging a free standing mailbox down the street that had become tangled in my jacket. ~Leo

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    I used to run at 5AM in the dark of winter.  There were street lights in the neighborhood where I lived, and I felt relatively safe although that wasn’t a paraticularly safe area.  I ran past an elderly gentleman walking his dog on most mornings, and we always said hello.     One morning he stood waiting for me without his dog.  He stopped me and handed me a plastic baggy full of pictures.  He said, "I thought you might like to have some of the shots I’ve taken."     He had taken pictures of me running in a local race.  I had not seen him on that day at all.  It was probably nothing.  He was likely just trying to be nice, but something about it spooked me a little.  I just thanked him and continued my run. Michelle

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3) Was once called a dog killing bastard, after an old lady’s mutt tried to attack me, so I darted across the street, the dog followed and was hit by a car.

um—-in this situation, that would be woman, not lady.

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First, let’s get the most cliched one out of the way: "Run!  Forest!  Run!" I got that mostly during my cross country training sessions in high school. I am pretty darn sure that I am not the only runner to have to put up with that one. Then there’s this wierd experience: This was when I was in my final year of high school.  I was running through an alley of my residential neighbourhood when I passed this guy who happened to be standing on his back porch.  He called out to me, "Hey! Are you Ryu?" For those of you who don’t know, "Ryu" is the main character of a very popular video game series called "Street Fighter".  I simply looked at him without stopping, gave no reply, and continued running. Several weeks later, I happened to be running through the same alley and I passed him again.  This time he shouted out, "Do you know kung fu?"  My response to him was the same as before. To this day I sometimes wonder what the heck that was all about.  The thought did cross my mind that my being Asian may have had something to do with it, but, this is Vancouver, BC, where Asians are almost the majority. I also had spikey hair at the time which resembled the look of many videogame martial artists, but then, so did many other teenage Asian guys at the time. I guess so things are simply wierd. Go figure. — ~Summit Wind HAIL to the greatest advance in mass miscommunication that is The Internet! (to contact me, make a VERY obvious change to my email address)

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While I was on a planned 5k easy run a ‘voice’ told me: "try your speed – how fast can you run a 5k – don’t worry about the ice – break 30:00 – don’t be a whimp – you can do it – rest tomorrow – on your marks – get set – go!" Actually this happened to me several times last November-December. Got injured on Christmas Day after the voice changed the distance from 5k to 15k ) Jarno — The woods are lovely, dark and deep But I have promises to keep And miles to go before I sleep And miles to go before I sleep.  - Robert Frost

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1)  Was running a half marathon, and had long hair at the time, finish line was within site…and heard over the PA system something to the tune of: "Wow what a run… here comes the first ladies finisher #102, and that would be Jerry Burr…er, oh wait, sorry, no its not. He just has long hair."  Did I ever feel masculine that day! 2)Shouted from a porch "Will you go to prom with me?" Stopped. Chatted.  Didn’t end up going to prom with her, but did I ever feel masculine that day. 3) Was once called a dog killing bastard, after an old lady’s mutt tried to attack me, so I darted across the street, the dog followed and was hit by a car. 4) Some kids  (in the 4-6 year old range) as I cut through a park kept yelling to me that I was Mr. Pee Pee Poo Poo Pants. There are some others that escape my mind at the moment. … Just a thought JerryB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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hahaha! at number 5. scott

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning: "So do you eat chocolate too?" Hey, a guy that takes care of himself and likes chocolate – I can picture a lot of women going for that…. Oddest things ever said to me while running: 1. "Just how far is the old fat guy running?" 2. "If you put your back against the grill of his car and your feet on the bumper of my car, we can push my car out of the intersection." 3. "That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever done in my life" (said by me after acting as the "adapter" between the two cars. Interestingly, it worked real well, but it was still nearly Darwin-Award stupid.). 4. "I have to go back to the fieldhouse for a cork." 5. "You shouldn’t stop to help people who are sick when you’re all sweaty and slimey." Rob

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Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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Some believe that people who dont get "it" enough eat chocolate. Maybe it was a pick up line

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?" ???? I didn’t want to stop and engage her in conversation, but laughed and said "yes" over my shoulder, and she said, "Well good for you!" Nevertheless I am at somewhat of a loss as to what she meant by that.

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Called out to me as I ran past a woman on my 4 mile run this morning:  "So do you eat chocolate too?"

Hey, a guy that takes care of himself and likes chocolate – I can picture a lot of women going for that…. Oddest things ever said to me while running: 1. "Just how far is the old fat guy running?" 2. "If you put your back against the grill of his car and your feet on the bumper of my car, we can push my car out of the intersection." 3. "That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever done in my life" (said by me after acting as the "adapter" between the two cars. Interestingly, it worked real well, but it was still nearly Darwin-Award stupid.). 4. "I have to go back to the fieldhouse for a cork." 5. "You shouldn’t stop to help people who are sick when you’re all sweaty and slimey." Rob

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How do they propose to enforce this?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the US several states and cities tax professional athletes for a share of their income derived from playing in that town. don’t know about australia, but in those places that i know income taxes are due only after 180 days of residence per calendar year. this is pretty much standard. pete Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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I’ve not heard anything about this. Sounds like a load of crap to me.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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don’t know about australia, but in those places that i know income taxes are due only after 180 days of residence per calendar year. this is pretty much standard. pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes.

No, that’s why *professionals* were barred. — — Bye,                 James

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In the US several states and cities tax professional athletes for a share of their income derived from playing in that town.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – don’t know about australia, but in those places that i know income taxes are due only after 180 days of residence per calendar year. this is pretty much standard. pete Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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It is true, but my local newspaper reported an Aussie official as saying that the Aussies would not pursue it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve not heard anything about this. Sounds like a load of crap to me. Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Aaah, I was not referring only to the host city but also the different organizing committees.  Even though they are fictionalized see the Steve Prefontaine movies.  The Olympics leave a bad taste in my mouth.  Both from a historical account and the current doings of the IOC.  I do love the actual competition.  I would gladly pay to see it on the tube or web. Watching the bastardized NBC coverage (read American athletes only) where they switch to soap opera stories in the middle of competition and don’t explain the moves in the longer events.  I am almost tempted to go to Canberra and watch the TV coverage from there.  I can’t afford the AUD 1000 for front row seats.  I did pay the AUD 8.95 for the Australian 5 dollar athletics commerative coin my last visit down under.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I point you to David Martin’s book "The Olympic Marathon" for some Olympic history.  The Games were not a money maker until Los Angeles ($225 million profit I think).   Before that the IOC had no clue about marketing or selling the brand (now the most recognizable brand/logo in the world). Politics have played a role in the Olympics for a long, long time.  In 1956, the Hungarian v Soviet Union water polo match was pretty political.  The African nations threatened to boycott in 1968.  All that said, I would prefer that athletes not be punished for the transgressions of its country since the athletes rarely have anything to do with the decisions of its government (except maybe when Princess Anne competed in equestrian in Montreal). The Olympics will always be "elitist" in one sense or another just as the Army Rangers are elitist. Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics. These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa. dennis Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

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I thought it was the opposite. Proffesionals were banned. you had to be an amateur to compete, and the rules on this were very strict. That’s why it’s only recently that proffesional cyclists were able to compete, due to a change in the rules on this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics. These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa. dennis Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

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Jeff, You are absolutely correct. As an Australian lawyer (and runner), I can tell you that, while Australia’s tax laws on a strict interpretation would require payment of local taxes, in practice those taxes will never be collected, and I don’t expect that any attempt will be made to collect them. In addition, my understanding is that, as Sam has pointed out, this position is no different from tax laws in the US and most countries. Ross PS Thanks to David Owers for his contribution to international diplomacy. Before he makes comments about other people’s genetic deficiencies, he might want to learn how to spell and write grammatical sentences. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I couldn’t imagine Australia actually collecting these taxes.  The Olympics provides the host the chance to showcase their country and I don’t think taking half of an Olympian’s money makes a very good impression.  It just makes me wonder what is wrong with the country?  Do they actually need the extra couple million this might bring in for them?  and need it so badly that they are willing to steal from what are basically international athletic diplomats? Hopefully this is just based on some Australian lawyer’s literal interpretation of the law and not on what the Australian government has actually decided to do. -jeff Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Corrected Post: Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making money (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics.  These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa. dennis

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

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I point you to David Martin’s book "The Olympic Marathon" for some Olympic history.  The Games were not a money maker until Los Angeles ($225 million profit I think).   Before that the IOC had no clue about marketing or selling the brand (now the most recognizable brand/logo in the world). Politics have played a role in the Olympics for a long, long time.  In 1956, the Hungarian v Soviet Union water polo match was pretty political.  The African nations threatened to boycott in 1968.  All that said, I would prefer that athletes not be punished for the transgressions of its country since the athletes rarely have anything to do with the decisions of its government (except maybe when Princess Anne competed in equestrian in Montreal). The Olympics will always be "elitist" in one sense or another just as the Army Rangers are elitist. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics. These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa. dennis Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

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Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics.  These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa. dennis

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

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Why should they be?  They started out in 1896 as elitist games.  The reason amateurs were barred so they wouldn’t compete with upper and middle classes. Until recently, everyone was making (Except Montreal) out of the Olympics except for the athletes themselves.  The hypocrisy of the Olympics is amazing.  1980, significant amounts of people were saying it’s wrong to inject politics in the Olympics when the USA boycotted the Olympics.  These same people kept silent or agreed on the ban of South Africa.

Too right about the politics issue.  Too bad, too… On the taxation issue, though, I guess I’ll have to be prepared to get an Australian tax levied on my salary earned during my next business trip to Australia…

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Well I can understand charging taxes on something as routine as baseball or something, but I had always thought the Olympics were supposed to be special. -jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually this occurs in the US.  Many cities can (and do I bet) send professional athletes a tax bill for income earned in that city even as a visiting athlete.  For instance, the Atlanta Braves (a baseball team) travel to New York twice a year to play the Mets.  That is probably 6 games of 162 game schedule.  Those 6 games represent about 4% of the schedule.  A player making 4 million dollars (US) per year would then owe taxes on $160K (4% of 4 million). I couldn’t imagine Australia actually collecting these taxes.  The Olympics provides the host the chance to showcase their country and I don’t think taking half of an Olympian’s money makes a very good impression.  It just makes me wonder what is wrong with the country?  Do they actually need the extra couple million this might bring in for them?  and need it so badly that they are willing to steal from what are basically international athletic diplomats? Hopefully this is just based on some Australian lawyer’s literal interpretation of the law and not on what the Australian government has actually decided to do. -jeff Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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What do you expect they were colonised by crooks it’s obviously still being a crook in there DNA. Dave Owers

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home.

What about their own medal winners?

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How are they planning on collecting this money? Hold the athlete hostage until he or she pays up? A lot of gold medal winners will high tail it out of Australia, never to return!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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I couldn’t imagine Australia actually collecting these taxes.  The Olympics provides the host the chance to showcase their country and I don’t think taking half of an Olympian’s money makes a very good impression.  It just makes me wonder what is wrong with the country?  Do they actually need the extra couple million this might bring in for them?  and need it so badly that they are willing to steal from what are basically international athletic diplomats? Hopefully this is just based on some Australian lawyer’s literal interpretation of the law and not on what the Australian government has actually decided to do. -jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Actually this occurs in the US.  Many cities can (and do I bet) send professional athletes a tax bill for income earned in that city even as a visiting athlete.  For instance, the Atlanta Braves (a baseball team) travel to New York twice a year to play the Mets.  That is probably 6 games of 162 game schedule.  Those 6 games represent about 4% of the schedule.  A player making 4 million dollars (US) per year would then owe taxes on $160K (4% of 4 million).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I couldn’t imagine Australia actually collecting these taxes.  The Olympics provides the host the chance to showcase their country and I don’t think taking half of an Olympian’s money makes a very good impression.  It just makes me wonder what is wrong with the country?  Do they actually need the extra couple million this might bring in for them?  and need it so badly that they are willing to steal from what are basically international athletic diplomats? Hopefully this is just based on some Australian lawyer’s literal interpretation of the law and not on what the Australian government has actually decided to do. -jeff Australia may impose tax on foreign medal winners. Sydney — Medals at the Sydney Olympic Games may come with something extra — a tax bill. International competitors who earn cash bonuses from their national Olympic committees and sports federations for winning medals will owe taxes in Australia, even if they receive the money after returning home. More…from the Globe and Mail at: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/OtherSports/20000817/SOLYM.html. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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Hi Michael: My name is Nate Llerandi and I am a retired pro triathlete who now coaches endurance athletes of all ability levels.  If you have any interest in possibly discussing a training routine with me and my services, please feel free to Best regards, Nate

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I would like some advice on developing an appropriate training regimen. Background:         This year, I was cunningly tricked into participating in two triathlons: Half-Vineman and Xterra-Keystone.  Despite my near total lack of a training regimen, I was able to get myself into good enough shape to complete the races.  Now, I would like to get myself onto a training schedule, so that next year I can do more, better. Current Situation:         I have approximately three hours per day that is available for a mixture of training and weights.  Keeping in mind time to drive hither and fro, this translates into about an hour in the gym and a hour in the pool/track or 90 minutes riding.  On weekends, my time is essentially unlimited.         Over the next five months, I will be doing the Benji Durden marathon training in preparation for the Walt Disney World marathon. This is where I need help:         I was thinking of doing Benj’s program, and just sprinkling in some rides, some swimming and about an hour of weights six days a week.  What should I do to build on my riding and swimming base for next year, while still preparing for the marathon?  Should I not even worry about it until after the marathon on Jan 2nd? Thanks in advance, michael

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You might consider getting custom wheels built.  I had wheel built by Dave’s Wheels in Fountain Hills AZ (check his website).  He did a great job and took into consideration my weight, racing conditions, etc.  His prices are very reasonable and no more than retail (probably less). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey everyone, I am looking ay buying some new wheels and and leaning toward a spoked wheels – Which are best for the price.  I have heard good things about The Mavic Heliums as well as the Rolf Vector Pros series.  Are there any others that I should be considering or are these two the readers choice? Depends upon what you want in a wheel.  Are you looking for light weight or superior aerodynamics?  Looking for a sturdy training wheel or a fast racing wheel? — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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Hey everyone, I am looking ay buying some new wheels and and leaning toward a spoked wheels – Which are best for the price.  I have heard good things about The Mavic Heliums as well as the Rolf Vector Pros series.  Are there any others that I should be considering or are these two the readers choice? Thanks in advance. Crockett

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Hey everyone, I am looking ay buying some new wheels and and leaning toward a spoked wheels – Which are best for the price.  I have heard good things about The Mavic Heliums as well as the Rolf Vector Pros series.  Are there any others that I should be considering or are these two the readers choice?

Depends upon what you want in a wheel.  Are you looking for light weight or superior aerodynamics?  Looking for a sturdy training wheel or a fast racing wheel? — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Hey everyone, I am looking ay buying some new wheels and and leaning toward a spoked wheels – Which are best for the price.  I have heard good things about The Mavic Heliums as well as the Rolf Vector Pros series.  Are there any others that I should be considering or are these two the readers choice? Thanks in advance. Crockett

Heliums are popular but I don’t know why.  They are Mavic reflex rims laced to a mavic hub.  A reflex rim laced to a dura ace hub would be lighter and 1/2 the price ( including a can of red spray paint) Rolfs have some features which we have found to be extremely un-attractive. Because of the high spoke tension and low spoke count the chances of breaking spokes are higher than in almost any other wheel, and because of the spoking pattern if you break a spoke (which you will eventually will) the wheel will go out of true so bad that you can’t ride it.  Rolf’s are in the intermediate weight range not the lightest but not the heaviest.   Rolfs also have a fairly heavy rim making the perimeter weight of the wheel a bit heavy. The new spinergy Spox are very light but not all that aero.  They are now available in 650’s with some cool color spokes and rims but the best feature is the rotating weight is un-believably low.  The Spinergy rev-x are very aero but not quite as light. A couple of good choices are Zipps, very durable and will race just fine on one or two broken spokes, and much lighter.  More expensive but worth it.  A another good choice would be the Velomax wheel sets.    (   www.velomax.com    or   http://www.goride.com/velomax.shtml  ) or good luck Bud

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I am looking for volunteers to act as bike course marshals at Ironman Canada in Penticton August 29,1999. We need approximately 30 people. You will be riding the bike course on a motorcycle (mostly Goldwings, and no you don’t get to drive them) Marshals start heading out shortly before 8am and most are back in by 4 or 5 pm. You have the option of patrolling the run course later if you wish. You should have your Triathlon Canada Level I officials certification or similar qualification from your NF. If you are going to be at IMC and want to spend a day giving back to your sport in a very worthwhile way, reply to Added bonus – you’ll get to climb Richter Pass without cracking a sweat. Brian McCoy

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<SNIP Added bonus – you’ll get to climb Richter Pass without cracking a sweat.

Yet further proof of TriBaby’s fame . . . they named a portion of the IMC course after her . . . Ron ‘and she invented a way of measuring earthquakes, too’ Gilcreast

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I live in South Florida and I would like to know when does season starts?  I would also like to know how to figure out aerobic and anaerobic heart rate? I am a new comer to the tri’s.                                                     P-nut

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I live in South Florida and I would like to know when does season starts?  I would also like to know how to figure out aerobic and anaerobic heart rate? I am a new comer to the tri’s.

The Triathlon season starts earlier in the closer to the equator you are, and later in more polar climes. In Seattle, our first triathlons are in May, and the season ends about early October. There are several significant races outside this range in the southern US, but you will have to look at local schedules to figure out when and where.  If you are not sure where to start looking for information, check out Yahoo, there are many triathlon links. As to aerobic and anaerobic HR ranges, they are unique and changeable for everyone. I suggest that you get a HRM and do a max heart rate test, then apply the normal percentages to your results, that will get you ball parked, then with some experience, you will find out at what point you go anaerobic. Rob — Rob Blomquist aka TriDog Seattle, WA http://www.accessone.com/~robb To send me email, remove the nomorespam from my domain name.

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As best as I can tell, the first tri race this year will be the Spring Sprint Triathlon at the Boca Chica Fitness Center in Key West. The Race Director’s number is 305-293-2683 for more info. The race will take place on March 7th at 7:30 a.m. and is a .5S/20B/3.1R. After that, the Winona Classic Triathlon in Deleon Springs on March 29th. For more info on that race, call John Boyle at 904-736-0002. This race is .25S/15.5B/3.1R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live in South Florida and I would like to know when does season starts? I would also like to know how to figure out aerobic and anaerobic heart rate? I am a new comer to the tri’s.                                                    P-nut

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As the coordinator for USAT SW Regional Championships and last year’s USAT Head Referee for MIKE AND ROB’S MOST XLNT TRIATHLON, I spoke with MESP Race Directory two days ago.  Evidently there were date and permit conflicts neccesitating the decision to eliminate this race as an Ironman Qualifier. The race, for 1998, will be a sub International distance.  Call MESP with your thoughts, suggestions and questions. (818) 707-8866 Lynne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what’s the story?? Mike & Rob’s isn’t a qualifier anymore? scott

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Please note that Buffalo Springs Lake Triathlon also has 4 hand crank IQ slots, 3 male, 1 female.   Mike Greer, Race Director

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Being from Philadelphia and being very unhappy with "The Triathlon," I would also love to know the answers to your questions. Eric  Weiss GFT 97 – Completed IMC 98 – Considering – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m obviously very curious why several outstanding races in the mid Atlantic area, who had long histories of great, safe races, not to mention tons of volunteers and community support and lots of sponsor $$, got passed over. Thanks. Cathy Corning

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Ironman News International, U.S. Qualifiers Announced for 20th Anniversary Ironman Triathlon World Championship New Ironman Triathlon Race Set For Brazil; 22 Events On 1998 Ironman Triathlon Qualifying Schedule Tarpon Springs, Fla., January 9, 1998: The World Triathlon Corporation

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Does anyone know of a company that makes custom wet suits for a better fit? Thanks RG Sletten

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You should really try Qroo’s wetsuits…I am weird fit and my height/weight fit the extreme ends of Qroo’s wetsuit fitting guidelines, yet my Quick John fits great.  They also offer more sizing options than everybody else.   But if you’re really different, try contacting a scuba gear store about custom suits…I’m sure there’s a custom wetsuit maker out there in that industry that can get a hold of the different neoprene rubber and make a wetsuit for you. Speed is Life, Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know of a company that makes custom wet suits for a better fit? Thanks RG Sletten

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Does anyone know of a company that makes custom wet suits for a better fit? Thanks RG Sletten

Ironman Triathlon Wetsuit offers a custom wetsuit for an additional $30.00. However, first consider a stock suit. We offer ten sizes. Please give me a call if I can help further. Best Regards, Keith Simmons National Sales Director Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits (800) 897-6464

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Does anyone know of a company that makes custom wet suits for a better fit?

Dan Empfield’s  crew  (QR) made my wife a custom suit a few yeears ago when we went south for some training.  Awesome job… fits like a glove.  There was a small up-charge but it was worth every penny. Tom

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Does anyone out there have any info on this bike?  I am a begining triathlete interested in a good bike in this price range (< $1200). Does anyone have any advice on which bikes I should be looking into? Thanks in advance, Frank Foster

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I only know of one other bike for that price, last year’s model of the Cannondale R700.  I own the 95 model which I bought last year about this time.  I really like it because all of the parts work smoothly.  I had used a sport/road bike before with wider tires so it took a long time to get used to the rather stiff ride.   Make sure,  however that you get sized right and fitted on your saddle so that you are comfortable on the aero bars.

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Sunday I’ll be finishing my season, a quickie in Central Park for a total of two this summer. Now, I’m thinking about next year, probably a couple of OD’s and maybe a 1/2 FeMan and would like to go about it right. I imagine there are others like me who would like to see some sample winter programs from you experienced guys and gals and maybe a little discussion on common pitfalls that lead to burnout, overtraining or whatever.  I know some of this is covered in the FAQ, but maybe we could find a format to nurture us lonely, non-affiliated, newbies along and a way to check progress. As for me, I need to straighten out a muscular imbalance in my knee and between legs and would like to learn how some of you build a base, with time as a constraint and how you juggle the training between events.   Relative to each other, I don’t think I have a weakest event.  Relative to other triathletes, I think I have all weak events.  But, I’d like to learn and learn how to improve steadily. All comments on your experiences will be greatly appreciated. Paul

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: Internet Online Services Sunday I’ll be finishing my season, a quickie in Central Park for a total of two this summer. Now, I’m thinking about next year, probably a couple of OD’s and maybe a 1/2 FeMan and would like to go about it right. I imagine there are others like me who would like to see some sample winter programs from you experienced guys and gals and maybe a little discussion on common pitfalls that lead to burnout, overtraining or whatever.  I know some of this is covered in the FAQ, but maybe we could find a format to nurture us lonely, non-affiliated, newbies along and a way to check progress. As for me, I need to straighten out a muscular imbalance in my knee and between legs and would like to learn how some of you build a base, with time as a constraint and how you juggle the training between events.   Relative to each other, I don’t think I have a weakest event.  Relative to other triathletes, I think I have all weak events.  But, I’d like to learn and learn how to improve steadily. All comments on your experiences will be greatly appreciated. Paul

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Sunday I’ll be finishing my season  [stuff delted] I imagine there are others like me who would like to see some sample winter   programs from you experienced guys and gals

Winter?  Did I miss something?  My *first* race was 8/13 and I’ve got at least 2 to go. Just my 2 cents on winter training:   1) weights 2) allow yourself to get deliberately ‘lopsided’.  I often will up my running mileage in the fall and early winter because its cool and more pleasant, then work more on swimming in the winter.  Biking is in many ways the easiest (quickest) sport in which to get *back* in shape, so sometimes I’ll let it go when the snow flies. Art Hutchinson (using my wife’s account) Newton, MA

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Winter?  Did I miss something?  My *first* race was 8/13 and I’ve got at least 2 to go. Just my 2 cents on winter training:   1) weights 2) allow yourself to get deliberately ‘lopsided’.  I often will up my running mileage in the fall and early winter because its cool and more pleasant, then work more on swimming in the winter.  Biking is in many ways the easiest (quickest) sport in which to get *back* in shape, so sometimes I’ll let it go when the snow flies. Art Hutchinson (using my wife’s account) Newton, MA

I don’t think biking is the *easiest* sport to get back into, but I agree on the ‘lopsided’ training.  I focus on running during the winter since it’s my worst event.  Last winter I ran tons, including several road races, and watched my summer tri running times drop quite a bit. Concentrating on your weakest event in the off-season is a great way to improve endurance, form, and efficiency without worrying about cramming in training time for the other events.   joe jankovsky "Your mother sews license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?" -Val Kilmer in _Real Genius_         WWW:    http://minerva.cis.yale.edu/~jjankov/             New England Triathlon Page:           http://minerva.cis.yale.edu/~jjankov/ne.html

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