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The show of sympathy and moral support was great. In Ottawa there were 80-100,000 on Parliament Hill. However, we could do something much more concrete in closing our borders to terrorists who use Canada as a staging ground to gain entry to the USA. Ken I have never seen so many American flags in Canada. There’s a major flag retailer in the GTA that sold 40,000 last week. BobMac

Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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The show of sympathy and moral support was great. In Ottawa there were 80-100,000 on Parliament Hill. However, we could do something much more concrete in closing our borders to terrorists who use Canada as a staging ground to gain entry to the USA.

and there you open a can of domestic, political worms….. BobMac

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A can that has needed opening for a long, long time…. Ken The show of sympathy and moral support was great. In Ottawa there were 80-100,000 on Parliament Hill. However, we could do something much more concrete in closing our borders to terrorists who use Canada as a staging ground to gain entry to the USA. and there you open a can of domestic, political worms….. BobMac

Ken Parker Runner’s Web http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site

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A can that has needed opening for a long, long time….

OTOH, at last report, none of the suspects in the recent incidents were ever in Canada. BobMac

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While i was at work we also observed it all. All week my heart and thoughts of gone out the victims and everyone that has been helping out with the efforts and everything.   I wish i could do soemthing to help myself.  I will continue to send out Reiki to the situation and all future related situations for the highest good.   I am proud to call myself a Canadian after over 80000 Canadians, actually one number that i heard was over 100 000 Canadians were on Parliament Hill for the ceremory and for the moment of Silence, You coud hear a pin drop in Ottawa today at that time,  except for a few people that either didn’t realize the time or what was going on at the time.   Even the streets, and the highways stopped moving to observe the silence.  So stand up and be proud to be Canadian , just goes to show that the USA is our closest friend and neighbour. Reiki Hugs, Love * Light Brian Ottawa, Ontario Canada

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Canadians will observe a 3 minute silence at 12:20 today to mourn all those lost. I will be on my noon run at this time and will be thinking of the loss of lives. Jenn

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I have never seen so many American flags in Canada. There’s a major flag retailer in the GTA that sold 40,000 last week. BobMac

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Canadians will observe a 3 minute silence at 12:20 today to mourn all those lost. I will be on my noon run at this time and will be thinking of the loss of lives. Jenn

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I am planning on doing the Greenwood Lake triathalon.  This tri is held in Greenwood Lake, Orange County, NY.Anyone have any information on the course for this triathalon.  I have already downloaded a map and all the basic info (such as distance of the swim, bike and run-all sprint distances).  I want to know what the terrain on the bike and run are like.  Are they hilly or flat, challenging, etc.  If anyone has any pertinent information it would be much appreciated. Thanks Jess

I did this race a couple of years ago. The swim was kind of gunky as it was a marina area of the lake and thus near lots of parked boats…it was also kind of narrow. It was a mass start in the water…which was quite chilly that day (don’t know the exact temp).Both the ride and run were hilly. Some of the pavement on the cycle route was  bit rough. The barbeque chicken after was good…and there is an inner tube race after the race (I came in second…there were only 4 people who agreed to get in that cold water again.).  Good luck! Johanna "forever young" Young

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I am planning on doing the Greenwood Lake triathalon.  This tri is held in Greenwood Lake, Orange County, NY.Anyone have any information on the course for this triathalon.  I have already downloaded a map and all the basic info (such as distance of the swim, bike and run-all sprint distances).  I want to know what the terrain on the bike and run are like.  Are they hilly or flat, challenging, etc.  If anyone has any pertinent information it would be much appreciated. Thanks Jess

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Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

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Thanks Brian, I have taken care of our internal problems. Steve’s Multisport. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

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Thanks Brian, I have taken care of our internal problems. Steve’s Multisport. Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

Steve should also consider that similar transactions reflect very poorly on the company, even if they are private rather than from the store.

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Steve should also consider that similar transactions reflect very poorly on the company, even if they are private rather than from the store.

Via email, he has informed me that his employees’ access to his Usenet feed have been revoked.  It is unfortunate that when a small business is generous to their employees with their resources, such benefits are often abused.

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Really, I can spell.  Honestly

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Agreed. Kind of funny to be having a long thread about Steve without him here. Wierd. Nevertheless, I completely agree that it is a bad idea to allow employees to use the company name to do their personal business. In a legal sense, (I’m no attorney) I doubt it’s even possible to do so without at least incurring some type of company responsibility for the sale. I also agree that I have had good experiences with Steve’s Multisport. Only good experiences, in fact. Mike

  Actually, there is a legal precident for this: In putting something up for advertisement under a company name, that company is effectively responcible for the sale of the item, and it’s quality based on the quality of the company.  Therefore, if Crappy Company has someone put something up for sale under the Crappy Company namesake, the quality of the item can be based on the quality of the server.  Essentially, you don’t goto a Chevrolet dealership expecting a Ferrari to be in as good a shape as you would at a Ferrari dealership. Just my $0.02  Dan "Still looking for a triathlon bike I can afford" Meleason

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This is part of my point, very well phrased.  I know I didn’t buy the wheel from Steve, but when I see a post with a shop’s name on it (one that isn’t repeatedly flamed, especially) I think to myself, "well, I should get some decent service out of this at least."  Since the shop’s name is a selling feature, I don’t think it’s fair to use it unless the shop is going to back the product in question.  It’s just plain misleading.  If Steve doesn’t want to be held responsible for products being sold under his shop’s name he shouldn’t let his employees use it for their personal business.  It takes all of about 30 seconds to setup another news account on Outlook Express. salud, Matt

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This is part of my point, very well phrased.  I know I didn’t buy the wheel from Steve, but when I see a post with a shop’s name on it (one that isn’t repeatedly flamed, especially) I think to myself, "well, I should get some decent service out of this at least."  Since the shop’s name is a selling feature, I don’t think it’s fair to use it unless the shop is going to back the product in question.  It’s just plain misleading.  If Steve doesn’t want to be held responsible for products being sold under his shop’s name he shouldn’t let his employees use it for their personal business.  It takes all of about 30 seconds to setup another news account on Outlook Express.

Exactly why many companies prohibit conducting outside business transactions via their facilities.

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Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Agreed. Kind of funny to be having a long thread about Steve without him here. Wierd. Nevertheless, I completely agree that it is a bad idea to allow employees to use the company name to do their personal business. In a legal sense, (I’m no attorney) I doubt it’s even possible to do so without at least incurring some type of company responsibility for the sale. I also agree that I have had good experiences with Steve’s Multisport. Only good experiences, in fact. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe yes, maybe no…I understand that B&L is the only bike shop at Ironman expos this year. Plus he emailed me only 3 days ago about a WTB that I posted. Regardless, I’ve had both good and bad experiences with his shop. I prefer to keep them to myself, but I know that right now there is a Tune Powertap for sale on RBM with a Steve’s Multisport email address (just posted yesterday BTW). A disclaimer in the ad states that it is a private sale, not through the shop but maybe it would be wise for Steve to forbid his employees from advertising their private sales through his business email. The email address is what people see on the posting and that would take him and his business out of the loop when someone is selling damaged goods and just happens to work for him. It’s hard enough to run a successful business these days without having your own employees dirtying your hard earned reputation. I know that Steve has worked hard through the years and means well, but customer service is very inconsistent from my experience. He may not always be the responsible party, but when you put your name on the door you take the blame for the bad along with the credit for the good. cheers, Andrew I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_) Before you buy.

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Maybe yes, maybe no…I understand that B&L is the only bike shop at Ironman expos this year. Plus he emailed me only 3 days ago about a WTB that I posted. Regardless, I’ve had both good and bad experiences with his shop. I prefer to keep them to myself, but I know that right now there is a Tune Powertap for sale on RBM with a Steve’s Multisport email address (just posted yesterday BTW). A disclaimer in the ad states that it is a private sale, not through the shop but maybe it would be wise for Steve to forbid his employees from advertising their private sales through his business email. The email address is what people see on the posting and that would take him and his business out of the loop when someone is selling damaged goods and just happens to work for him. It’s hard enough to run a successful business these days without having your own employees dirtying your hard earned reputation. I know that Steve has worked hard through the years and means well, but customer service is very inconsistent from my experience. He may not always be the responsible party, but when you put your name on the door you take the blame for the bad along with the credit for the good. cheers, Andrew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

Before you buy.

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I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Sorry to hear about your problem, but I honestly can’t say that I am very suprised.  I have had two experiences with that shop, and both have been less than ideal.  The first was much like yours; I responded to an ad on RBM for a new limar helmet.  The long and short of it is that I received what was obviously a used helmet.  I called with the problem and was told to send it back and they would refund return shipping as well as helmet cost. Then, a couple weeks later I call to ask about the refund which hadn’t been taken care of, and they got mad because I shipped it from Mail Boxes Etc. (the only place closeby my college campus).  Recently, my dad ordered a KM40 frameset from them. It arrived in perfect shape, but it took about a week and a half longer than he was told to arrive.  I personally won’t shop there anymore. Before you buy.

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Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner.   Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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That really sucks. I bought a cheap used pair of aerobars from them and although the aerobars were fine, they didn’t ship it when promised, and when I called to ask about it the person I spoke with had a laissez faire attitude. Was definitely not concerned about whether I was happy doing business with them, so they don’t seem to be too strong on the idea of customer service. Left a bad taste for sure.  In any event there are plenty of other people to buy stuff from here on rbr who are quite honest. Sorry if you lost your money, but you do have other options, hope you don’t just give up. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Before I start, I’d like to invite both Mike and Steve to offer their respective sides to the story in order to get everything out in the open. A couple weeks ago I responded to the following post (a response to a WTB I posted on RBM) from Steve at Steve’s Multisport: I have a HED 700c ultralite tubular disc 8/9s cassette  the price is $350.00 shipped It is in great shape a few minor blemishes used for 1 year Call steves multisport 610 631 7822 ask for mike I called Mike to hammer out the details and promptly sent him a check.  I received the wheel in a reasonable amount of time, and it was packaged well. I expected the wheel to have a few dings, and initially any damage present seemed to be mostly cosmetic.  However, upon closer inspection I found the wheel to have 3 separate cracks which went all the way through the wheels carbon fiber matrix.  Also, I found an additional 3 inch long crack in the carbon starting at the valve post hole. I thought about it awhile, and I decided to call Mike and ask for a refund. I called him and asked if we could work a return because I felt the wheel wasn’t received in the condition specified in the post.  He said, "I really can’t," and that was it. As a side note, I also emailed Steve and asked him to take responsibility for the wheel since he wrote the post and verified the condition of the wheel.  He simply said that he saw the wheel, it was in great shape, and the wheel wasn’t his so he took no responsibility for it.  If a cracked carbon fiber wheel passes for ‘great shape’ then perhaps one should think twice about Mike and Steve’s judgement when it comes to used equipment. caveat emptor, Matthew J. Thomas

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Before I start, I’d like to invite both Mike and Steve to offer their respective sides to the story in order to get everything out in the open. A couple weeks ago I responded to the following post (a response to a WTB I posted on RBM) from Steve at Steve’s Multisport: I have a HED 700c ultralite tubular disc 8/9s cassette  the price is $350.00 shipped It is in great shape a few minor blemishes used for 1 year Call steves multisport 610 631 7822 ask for mike

I called Mike to hammer out the details and promptly sent him a check.  I received the wheel in a reasonable amount of time, and it was packaged well. I expected the wheel to have a few dings, and initially any damage present seemed to be mostly cosmetic.  However, upon closer inspection I found the wheel to have 3 separate cracks which went all the way through the wheels carbon fiber matrix.  Also, I found an additional 3 inch long crack in the carbon starting at the valve post hole. I thought about it awhile, and I decided to call Mike and ask for a refund. I called him and asked if we could work a return because I felt the wheel wasn’t received in the condition specified in the post.  He said, "I really can’t," and that was it. As a side note, I also emailed Steve and asked him to take responsibility for the wheel since he wrote the post and verified the condition of the wheel.  He simply said that he saw the wheel, it was in great shape, and the wheel wasn’t his so he took no responsibility for it.  If a cracked carbon fiber wheel passes for ‘great shape’ then perhaps one should think twice about Mike and Steve’s judgement when it comes to used equipment. caveat emptor, Matthew J. Thomas

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Camryn Manheim of "The Practice" is one very pissed-off fat broad. The 250-pounds (and growing) actress says it is time that Hollywood provides more leading roles for heavyset women.  We have to agree

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As previously discussed, nausea is a major rate limiting factor in triathlon. Another component to this nausea may be the systemic acidosis resulting from lactate buildup. Acidosis is well known to cause nausea and vomiting. Could raising the pH of the body using alkali(eg TUMS or Alka Selzer) help maintain a normal pH during intense exercise? This could allow a higher tolerance of lactate buildup and a higher threshold for discomfort. There may have been studies done on this but I couldn’t find any. Tums would be cheap, safe, and undetectable performance enhancing drug. They could be carried inconspicuously in a jersey. Perhaps a special holder could be marketed for aero bars.  I have already bought shares in the company. PS why is everyone so vicious and intolerant of my postings on this newsgroup? I have already recieved one death threat. Captain Lactate

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Could raising the pH of the body using alkali(eg TUMS or Alka Selzer) help maintain a normal pH during intense exercise? This could allow a higher tolerance of lactate buildup and a higher threshold for discomfort. There may have been studies done on this but I couldn’t find any. Tums would be cheap, safe, and undetectable performance enhancing drug. They could be carried inconspicuously in a jersey. Perhaps a special holder could be marketed for aero bars. I have already bought shares in the company.

Which brings up a question.  What are the tablets that Luc Van de Lierde (sp) had tucked into the waistband of his shorts in Hawaii? JT

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Studies have been done the introduce substances to neutralize the increased acidity.  One of my profs did one.  He found that to get an effect one had to ingest a lot (like a pound) of baking soda.  However, almost each subject had severe GI distress. Also, the person could not consume the soda fast enough so it was placed in the stomach using a tube down the throat. His name is Jeff Rupp and I think his Ph.D. dissertation was on this. Sam Callan Couldn’t think of anything this time…..

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Studies have been done the introduce substances to neutralize the increased acidity.  One of my profs did one.  He found that to get an effect one had to ingest a lot (like a pound) of baking soda.  However, almost each subject had severe GI distress. Also, the person could not consume the soda fast enough so it was placed in the stomach using a tube down the throat.

Well, a *pound* is a bit of a stretch, but your point is well made, i.e., it does take a fair amount – most studies have had people ingest 0.3 g of sodium bicarbonate per kg of body weight, or about 1 oz for the average Joe or Joesephine. And, GI distress is often an unpleasant side effect. I toss this out there just so somebody doesn’t take you too literally, and make themselves really sick…

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He found that to get an effect one had to ingest a lot (like a pound) of baking soda.  However, almost each subject had severe GI distress.

They tried doing this with race horses, I beleive, and now test them for soda after races. Thye also get GI "distress" … severly I understand How badly do you want to go faster ?? Richard

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I have seen the postings in the calendar section for an indoor tri series in the Chicago area.  Could someone tell me how these are run?  We recently opened a new rec center in our town where I am working part time and I would be interested in starting this type of program here.  I seem to recall an article in either Triathlete mag. or Inside Triathlon.

The club that I used to belong to in Ky. would occasionally run an indoor triathlon (although they didn’t call it that). They did theirs in a couple of flavors.   – Stairmaster/Stationary Bike   – Swim/Stationary Bike/Run (indoor track/indoor pool) I did not ever compete in one of these. I believe that the significant difference between the event as they ran it and a typical duathlon or triathlon is that they allowed (required actually) a pretty long (5 minutes or more) time between events.  You added up all of your times (not sure what they did with stairs and resistance levels, but I can imagine lots of alternatives here) and basically had a complete recovery between events. This was pretty informal, but quite popular with a subset of the local club. dave

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I have seen the postings in the calendar section for an indoor tri series in the Chicago area.  Could someone tell me how these are run?  We recently opened a new rec center in our town where I am working part time and I would be interested in starting this type of program here.  I seem to recall an article in either Triathlete mag. or Inside Triathlon.

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    Well folks, I did my last long run today in prep for Boston 100.  An easy 15 in 1:45, a pace that will probably be faster than I’ll need given the crowd expected. I did the 90th running 10 years ago and thought at the time it would be neat to make it to the 100th.  Can’t believe it’s here.     The discovery of what both running and triathlon can bring to a person has been the neatest part of the last decade.  I’ve been to so many great places, met so many nice people. I’ve been lucky…and I mean LUCKY, to hear the screams at Wellesley and the cheering on Allii Drive. The kids I teach think I’m cooler than what I really am because of it, and on those early training days you get to see the best sunrises ever.      It’s been a long, cold winter here in Sycamore, IL but it’s been worth it to take these bikers legs to Boston. All my best to everyone in their 1996 racing, Mark        

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       The discovery of what both running and triathlon can bring to a person     has been the neatest part of the last decade.  I’ve been to so many great     places, met so many nice people. I’ve been lucky…and I mean LUCKY, to     hear the screams at Wellesley and the cheering on Allii Drive. The kids I     teach think I’m cooler than what I really am because of it, and on those     early training days you get to see the best sunrises ever. I second the above comments:       There is the mateship during races which makes you forget the pain.     The cheering of the crowds at races, total strangers – gives me an extra     spring in my step.     Kids from the local school cheering me as I dash by on my lunch run.     It’s the wolf whistles that worry me, isn’t it supposed to be the     other way around?     The apologetic mums in their unsuccessful attempts to stop their 4-5 YO     kids giving me high fives as I pass them on my runs, their smiling faces     brimming with glee as only children’s can.  How can you refuse them that     simple pleasure?  I can only comply.     Meeting up with people I’d never have dreamed of from all over the world.     [I must improve my social skills ... I must improve my social skills ...]     Joking with race officials and volunteers at checkpoints and     resfreshment stations is my way of thanking them for their time.  So what     if it takes a little time to do so? The non-competitive interaction with those around me is probably why I enjoy running more than swimming and cycling. —   Woof!

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It’s great to hear others on RST voice the joy they get out of being part of this ‘culture’ of whatever it is (I hesitate to put a name to it, but I think you all know what I mean). I was sitting at breakfast yesterday after 35 mile bike ride with 5 of my tri/running friends, and just felt this stupid smile on my face, someone else noticing it and asking what on earth I was grinning at. My answer was that I simply felt so happy with my being around good friends with a common satisfaction with what we do together. Thanks to all of you, too. Cheers Barry By the way, good luck and have fun at Boston – this is one slowpoke who’ll be cheering you all from here.

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As I continue to update my web site, I will be starting to offer technical assistance as well as sales advice. Here’s my question. What would you like to see more info on. bike surveys: Fit tips: Product reviews: Tips for traveling: Local races: Ask Ken Glah questions: These are just some ideas I have in mind. Please give me your imput. Emailme your ideas and look for the new web format starting soon with your technical imput. Thanks, steve P.S. 1 more foot of snow today. UGH. Computrainer is working overtime. My current triathlon is wake, shovel, sleep.

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Steve – Re : Multisport survey Might want to post the results of all the testing of bikes and components that went on at Texas A & M wind tunnel extravaganza earlier this month. Seth Moore

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I’m wondering if anyone out there is planning to do Smiths Falls this weekend. I’ll be there but with very generic features:  Black and white bike, Hed disk with some stickers, and the old fashioned profile aero bars.  Apart from that…black speedo, white singlet, black Bare wetsuit…..how could you miss me! Hope to see some of you there. Bruce Ackman Triathlete in a plain brown wrapper

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I’m planning to go to Smiths Falls on Saturday — but I’m just doing the swim. Lynn

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I’m seeking advice on the purchace of a running watch, obviously for recording times and preferably distances and possibly pulse rate. Any suggestions?  Thanks.

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I’m seeking advice on the purchace of a running watch, obviously for recording times and preferably distances and possibly pulse rate. Any suggestions?  Thanks.

Come on, someone out there must have a running watch they love. I don’t want to purchase the wrong kind.  If you could share with me your favorite, it would be most appreciated.    Thanks again.

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Come on, someone out there must have a running watch they love. I don’t want to   purchase the wrong kind.  If you could share with me your favorite, it would be   most appreciated.   Thanks again.

 Well the seemingly most prevalent watch on the face of the earth (the Timex Ironman) is my personal favorite.  It not only times laps, comes in a variety of colors, and has an Indiglo night light, but works fine when swimming or showering.  Have I included everything?  Probably not

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I have had a Casio 503 SDB-300W for about 5 years now.  It records splits and will also record the times for 30 runs.  It claims to be water resistant to 50 Meters, but I’ve never put it to the water test.  I haven’t even had to change the battery yet.  However I had to replace the rubber watchband last year.  It was about $3.  I bought the watch for $25 or $30 from a mail order place advertised in Runner’s World.  Sorry I don’t remember the exact details.  I’ve been real satisfied with it. Hope this helps,

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I have had a Casio 503 SDB-300W for about 5 years now.  It records splits and will also record the times for 30 runs.  It claims to be water resistant to 50 Meters, but I’ve never put it to the water test.  I haven’t even had to change the battery yet.  However I had to replace the rubber watchband last year.  It was about $3.  I bought the watch for $25 or $30 from a mail order place advertised in Runner’s World.  Sorry I don’t remember the exact details.  I’ve been real satisfied with it. Hope this helps,

I had the 300W and now the 500W. The typical discussion is the Casiso vs the Timex and like religion and politics, you’ll find lovers of both. Since you care about recording times please note one feature as you shop, some record many times but only for a single day. The Casio will record 30 times across 30 days). I think with the Timex you have to step up to Indiglo 100 model before it lets you span days.   The Timex pads in the past, were a weak point.  I don’t know if they have improved that area. Some don’t like the Casio pads on top claiming the elastic sleves of jackets at times shuts off the watch. Just some food for thought. — Doug Freese  All opinions are mine. IBM Tele: 8-292-7752

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My advice to you is to decide what you are going to use the watch for.  For instance if you are going to only run 5-9 miles at a time, then I would get the ironman.  However, if you are going to be doing any track workouts, like 1/2 mile splits, say 10-12 of them, then you are going to want a higher lap count than just 8.  Personally, for the last 5-6 years the ironman has been my best watch,  but you have to replace it every few years. — Christopher D. Combs Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp:     …!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!cc86

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writes: I’m seeking advice on the purchace of a running watch, obviously for recording times and preferably distances and possibly pulse rate.

I’ve used four different watches for running and find this one the best by far: Casio, 30 lap model, water 100m resist It can store races (until the 30 lap is exhausted) and their dates. I have my 10K PR race permanently stored until I break it! (in 1995 ?!) (until I break my PR that is…) — Ken Papai, Marin County  <* "The truth is that the Runner is not made for

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I have had the Timex 100 lap Indiglo for six months and love it. Got it on sale at Kmart for around $40 (retail $54). Has taken the best of all the Indiglo features and put them in one watch. Too many features to list here. Bruce Schroeder "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

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I’m seeking advice on the purchace of a running watch, obviously for recording times and preferably distances and possibly pulse rate. Any suggestions?  Thanks. Come on, someone out there must have a running watch they love. I don’t want to purchase the wrong kind.  If you could share with me your favorite, it would be most appreciated.    Thanks again.

I am on my second Casio pacer watch (my first one lasted for about 7 years!).  My current one is the Casio Work Out.  The thing I like about the Casio pacer watches is the ability to program in your desired pace (in steps per minute) and your average stride length, and let the watch calculate how far you have run.  This latest model also can optionally calculate how many calories you have burned (based on your age and weight, which you also program in) or how many steps you have taken (useful when initially determining your average stride length for a particular pace). As long as you take a step every beep, the calculated distance is surprisingly accurate.  This is quite handy when running new courses in which you don’t know the mileage. I have also found the pacer to be handy during training, in forcing me to run at ever-increasing paces. Hope this helps. Johnny Hinshaw

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IW Well the seemingly most prevalent watch on the face of the earth (the IWTimex Ironman) is my personal favorite.  It not only times laps, comes in a IWvariety of colors, and has an Indiglo night light, but works fine when IWswimming or showering.  Have I included everything?  Probably not I agree.  I have a Timex Triathlon with Indiglo lighting.  It does all I need it to…it keeps the date and time, has the stopwatch with 8-lap capability, and an alarm.  It has 3 countdown modes (which I will probably never, ever use, but hey).  The whole thing cost me a whopping $24 and some change at Walmart.  Can’t beat that! Sid — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  PC-Library TeleComm Systems (612) 895-8775 – 75,000 files – Shopping Mall  * *  Internet E-Mail & Newsgroups FREE for members – Online interactive Games   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Bob Russin writes: Come on, someone out there must have a running watch they love. I don’t want to purchase the wrong kind.  If you could share with me your favorite, it would be most appreciated.    Thanks again.

Well, I figured someone would beat me to it.  I have never used a casio so let’s not get into any watch wars.  I LOVE my Timex Ironman Triathlon 100 Lap watch.  It has a nice BIG button for start and laps.  The stop button is on the side which is great for me cuz I used to always press the stop button by accident when I wanted the lap button.  You can save your times with the date in segments.  For example, I’ve got my last 3 races stored with each mile split and associated date.  There are a bunch of other features like different timers, 9 alarms, 3 pages of memos.  Also, I’ve got the Indiglo which is very easy to see when I run at night.  There are other features I haven’t tried yet like the reps with intervals I think (need to read the instructions again). I bought my watch at K-Mart for $38.  Most places sell it for about $45. —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bob Russin writes: Come on, someone out there must have a running watch they love. I don’t want to purchase the wrong kind.  If you could share with me your favorite, it would be most appreciated.    Thanks again. Well, I figured someone would beat me to it.  I have never used a casio so let’s not get into any watch wars.  I LOVE my Timex Ironman Triathlon 100 Lap watch.  It has a nice BIG button for start and laps.  The stop button is on the side which is great for me cuz I used to always press the stop button by accident when I wanted the lap button.  You can save your times with the date in segments.  For example, I’ve got my last 3 races stored with each mile split and associated date.  There are a bunch of other features like different timers, 9 alarms, 3 pages of memos.  Also, I’ve got the Indiglo which is very easy to see when I run at night.  There are other features I haven’t tried yet like the reps with intervals I think (need to read the instructions again). I bought my watch at K-Mart for $38.  Most places sell it for about $45. —

I can’t comment on Timex watches but I have used Casio Watches for 15 years. They are flawless and CHEAP. The only problem I experience is the band wears out before the watch does. The battery lasts at least five years. –jeff rubin

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If people are taking an unofficial poll about watches, then my vote goes to Timex Ironman or Triatholons.. I have had six in a row, and only so many because I have lost them.. I have never had a problem..                Nick Rattray                         –     0       /    * Running is the elixir of life *      -      /

I am using an Ironman also. I just wish the buttons were easier to push. I also have a Accusplit 930. It is pretty good also. J. Carl

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Try the timex triathlon indiglo, or a hrm by polar, possibly the Favor or Accurex: )

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