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to anyone using a heart rate monitor for training: As time goes on do you get more efficient/quicker at your training HR’s and do you need to extend the time alloted in the target heart rate. Specifically I am curious of the following scenerio: 65%-75%  =  125-144 I train for 2 months in both run and bike in this target range.  As time gets closer to the end of the 2 months my rate (min/mile) gets much better. Therefore, do I stay at the same training time at this target range or do I increase my time.  If I stay at this time do I then drop my target range to 60%-70% ?  If I increase my time, by how much do I increase. Also, how effective has this type of training been for people.  Its my understanding that this is probably more of a long range training approach instead of a short range, how true do you find this to be? Anyway, thanks for any response I receive Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to anyone using a heart rate monitor for training: As time goes on do you get more efficient/quicker at your training HR’s and do you need to extend the time alloted in the target heart rate. Specifically I am curious of the following scenerio: 65%-75%  =  125-144 I train for 2 months in both run and bike in this target range.  As time gets closer to the end of the 2 months my rate (min/mile) gets much better. Therefore, do I stay at the same training time at this target range or do I increase my time.  If I stay at this time do I then drop my target range to 60%-70% ?  If I increase my time, by how much do I increase. Also, how effective has this type of training been for people.  Its my understanding that this is probably more of a long range training approach instead of a short range, how true do you find this to be? Anyway, thanks for any response I receive Steve

First, let my qualify this by stating that I’m not a seasoned tri-veteran, but a newbie myself. But you did say  *any* response . . . . . . my understanding of the whole HR-based training is that your body will continue to get more efficient at the same HR. Therefore, continually training at the same HR will cause your body to continue improving (because your body can now do more w/ the same HR than before), albeit in smaller increments as you approach your genetic potential.  So, for a given workout goal (overdistance, speedwork, etc) your HR and workout length should remain the same throughout. In practical terms, this means you’ll be *increasing* distance because you’ll be capable of covering more distance in the same amount of time. Distance should be the variable, not workout time (for a given goal, as above). I actually don’t have direct experience w/ this re; results, but have just recently started using a HRM in my workouts, and am enjoying the instant feedback. The ‘knowledge’ I spouted above is actually from ‘The Triathlete’s Training Bible’ by Joe Friel. A really great resource. hope this helps.

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You can find it in Forever Fit Outside Magazine, Page 40-50 Feb 1998 The HR part is on Page 45. gordo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Didn’t Mark Allen suggest adjusting one’s heart rate calculation according to fitness level?  Either Triathlete Magazine (before December 98–I must’ve tossed it) or a Windy City Sports Magazine (Chicago residents only, sorry) had an article on it.  Anyone remember or have this to give the specifics? Zack

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Didn’t Mark Allen suggest adjusting one’s heart rate calculation according to fitness level?  Either Triathlete Magazine (before December 98–I must’ve tossed it) or a Windy City Sports Magazine (Chicago residents only, sorry) had an article on it.  Anyone remember or have this to give the specifics?

Mark was talking about my 180-Formula (vs the 220-formula), which he has used for 15 years. This formula has been discussed here a few times. Phil Maffetone

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Didn’t Mark Allen suggest adjusting one’s heart rate calculation according to fitness level?  Either Triathlete Magazine (before December 98–I must’ve tossed it) or a Windy City Sports Magazine (Chicago residents only, sorry) had an article on it.  Anyone remember or have this to give the specifics? Zack

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to anyone using a heart rate monitor for training: As time goes on do you get more efficient/quicker at your training HR’s and do you need to extend the time alloted in the target heart rate. Specifically I am curious of the following scenerio: 65%-75%  =  125-144 I train for 2 months in both run and bike in this target range.  As time gets closer to the end of the 2 months my rate (min/mile) gets much better. Therefore, do I stay at the same training time at this target range or do I increase my time.  If I stay at this time do I then drop my target range to 60%-70% ?  If I increase my time, by how much do I increase.

Don’t drop your target zone.  The actual values however may change as your resting heart rate drops. It seems best to vary your training from week to week, and also in macrocycles of several weeks.  Try reading SERIOUS Training for Endurance Athletes (Rob Sleamaker) or something else along those lines for details of setting up a training schedule. — James Derrick

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Speedplay pedals are the best, in my opinion. They are two-sided, light, easy to get into and out of, and have the smoothest float of any of them. Just good design. Get shoes that fit, with the stiffest soles possible. I like Carnacs, but I have big feet. Other brands include Sidi, Shimano, Time, and several others. Other brands of pedals include Look, Time, and Shimano, in addition to a bunch of Shimano imitations. Virtually all shoes can be adapted for Speedplay pedals, but some other pairings are not compatible. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello,     I have just completed my 1st olympic distance tri and got burned in the bike by people with superior gear.  Thought it might be time to buy shoes and clipless pedals.  I have heard that "speedplay" is a good brand to buy.  What about shoes and other brands of pedals?  Any advice appreciated Joe Barrett Seattle, Wa To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the Palm of your hand And Eternity in an Hour William Blake

Rick Denney Take what you want and leave the rest.

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I just got Speedplay 2x and I use Carnac shoes. They are easy to get in and out of quickly and are a solid shoe……. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello,     I have just completed my 1st olympic distance tri and got burned in the bike by people with superior gear.  Thought it might be time to buy shoes and clipless pedals.  I have heard that "speedplay" is a good brand to buy.  What about shoes and other brands of pedals?  Any advice appreciated Joe Barrett Seattle, Wa To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the Palm of your hand And Eternity in an Hour William Blake

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Bought Speedplay X-2’s last year and they great. But WEIRD at first. The amount of float has been described like trying to stand on wet ice (or wet glass for the folks down south..). Once you get used to the freedom of movement, you will wonder how you ever did without them. I like ‘em a lot.

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Has anyone ridden the new Bebop clipless pedals?  How does the feel compare to the speedplay?? Don Van Wie Just tri-ing to practice what I preach.

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I’ve just gotten look pedals and they work pretty good. The speedplays are definately lighter, but I don’t know if they’re light enough to warrent their cost. I just picked up a used pare of look carbons for 35 bucks and the shoes where just 40 on sale new. One thing I can definately suggest is to practice dismounting in a field or on some surface thats somewhat soft. I picked up my shoes and pedals a month ago and the knees got hit up pretty bad on the first couple of stops. I’d stop then try to take my shoes out of  the pedals. Not. You’ve got to pull your feet out while you’re still moving unless of course you’ve been riding forever and can balance the bike sitting still. Later Byron – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello,      I have just completed my 1st olympic distance tri and got burned in the bike by people with superior gear.  Thought it might be time to buy shoes and clipless pedals.  I have heard that "speedplay" is a good brand to buy.  What about shoes and other brands of pedals?  Any advice appreciated Joe Barrett Seattle, Wa To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the Palm of your hand And Eternity in an Hour William Blake

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I am going to be doing my first IM distance race this year.  I picked the Great Floridian Triathlon in Clermont, FL because its close to home (Clearwater, FL) and I can check out the course as often as I want.  I get kind of bored w/ the area but the venue isn’t bad.  You should check out the Clermont race this fall.  I don’t know if you travel to Clermont for Tri’s right now or not, but it would be worth a look, and it won’t break the bank.  You can find out more at: www.cftsommersports.com good luck w/ the training ed m. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter

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Joe, I looked at speedplay about a year ago, but I had heard many complaints with there use & foot pain/numbness.  I eventually chose ‘look’, and couldn’t be happier. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello,      I have just completed my 1st olympic distance tri and got burned in the bike by people with superior gear.  Thought it might be time to buy shoes and clipless pedals.  I have heard that "speedplay" is a good brand to buy.  What about shoes and other brands of pedals?  Any advice appreciated Joe Barrett Seattle, Wa To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the Palm of your hand And Eternity in an Hour William Blake

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You will not have to qualify for Roth in ‘99.  There will be several qualifying races in Europe for Europeans who want to guarantee themselves a spot.  For the rest of us, the same old first come, first served will apply. They say applications will come out in January. John Noblin Roth, Germany. Easy bike and run. Thousands of people supporting. Unfortunately, now you have to qualify to go there! Fred In article

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hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter

  I would definetly recommend the ESPRIT triathlon in Montreal. This race really caters to the amateur athletes, there’s no price money. The swim is like swimming in 2km long swimming pool. The bike is all flat and loops, so you have supporters all the way and are never alone. The run is also loops. You can check it out at : http://pages.infinit.net/vlortpxs/esprit.htm . I did the race in 1993 and absolutely loved, hope to go back maybe in a couple of years. Achim Heinle

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hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter

Canada. Mike T "TriBop" http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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Roth, Germany. Easy bike and run. Thousands of people supporting. Unfortunately, now you have to qualify to go there! Fred – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter Canada. Mike T "TriBop" http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

– F. Desprez

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hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter Canada.

Longest Day : clean lake swim (no currents or waves) Fast flat bike course shetered, flat run course with forgiving surface weather’s not too extreme excellent support I’d hesitate to say it’s an easy course (what Ironman is easy?) but it’s easier than Lanzarote! adrian

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Hello,      I have just completed my 1st olympic distance tri and got burned in the bike by people with superior gear.  Thought it might be time to buy shoes and clipless pedals.  I have heard that "speedplay" is a good brand to buy.  What about shoes and other brands of pedals?  Any advice appreciated Joe Barrett Seattle, Wa To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the Palm of your hand And Eternity in an Hour William Blake

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hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter

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hey just wondering what ironman would be a good one to do for my first IRONMAN, did my first triatlon this year in may the half ironman in panama fl. it was really good, i want to do an IRONMAN next year but dont know which one would be a good starter

Depends; what are your criteria for "a good starter"?  Do you want something as close to home as possible, or do you seek an exotic locale? Do you want a relatively "easy" (i.e., flat) course, or a tough, challenging, hilly course?  Do you feel the need to do an "official" WTC *Ironman* race, or would you be perfectly happy to go the distance in a non-WTC race? Check out the Extreme Tri website’s race guide at http://www.extremetri.com/races/index.html This site provides a great overview of the majority of long-distance triathlons in the world. I’ve only ever done one Ironman, Ironman Canada, but I highly recommend IMC for the first-timer (assuming you can get your registration in on time!).  Someone asked this same question very recently and there were a number of excellent responses touting IMC as the best "first timer" Ironman out there.  Check out Dejanews to see if you can find those posts.  I myself posted a long list of IMC "plusses" that make it a fantastic event. Good luck! Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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Rocking cool….glad you got your shot!

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Tricia Richter writes: It’s true.  I’m going.

Congratulations. Hum, interesting.  Canada and Hawaii??  Awesome. Good luck. Bob Williams

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I’m looking forward to reading the mother of all race reports…. — MB. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie

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congrats break a leg

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Mega Congrats!!  We all live at the foot of the mountain but very few of us ever get to the mountain top.  I will be waiting for tales of pain and glory.   P.S. Thanks for keeping Princess Carla company on the bike at Wildflower. Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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Tri-Baby, we are counting on you to make a face at the NBC camera. Grab the lens, point it at yourself, and say, "I’m an age-grouper, and I’m having a blast!" If the cameraman resists, well, you know what to do. I will watch the coverage with a bit more interest this year. Have enough fun for all of us. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

Rick Denney Take what you want and leave the rest.

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Hurray! It couldn’t happen to a more deserving age-grouper. I’m ever so pleased for you Tricia – you took the chance and you won. Better start clearing some disk space for the reports! Joel (ever so envious – some of us will never get the chance, sigh – has anyone ever taken US nationality just so they can enter the lottery?) — Joel Sylvester Me: www.roe.ac.uk/jswww/ Edinburgh Triathletes: www.roe.ac.uk/jswww/edin_tri

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Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—-

Congratulations. Now you’re in the shit! Tri-Baby

regards adrian

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Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby

Congrats, Tricia! Looks like your Post Office moles and secret agents came through for ya.  <g Have a great time. Mike "TriBop" Tennent http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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Good luck, here’s your chance! Rich F.

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Just wanted to add my congratulations. I’ve been an RST’er for less than a month, but I’ve already learned a lot from you – a few practical tips, but mainly a greater appreciation for the spirit of the sport. Go get ‘em! Bob Leckron

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CONGRADULATIONS!!!!! Wonderful! I’m sooo jealous. Does this mean that we won’t be seeing you at the Peach for the RST pre-IMC swim? Best wishes to you and all the other RSTers who got in for safe training for the next few months. Sinerely, Laura Dickinson Lee (IMC ‘97, ‘98 and dying to get to the big dance someday) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie

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Congrats Tricia on your award. Kona bound!!! Question is, are you going to risk stretching yourself thin doing both IMC and IMH, or will you drop Penticton this year? I’m jealous…but that will be another thread.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   ‘98 IMC, GCT, BSLT IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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There is no one I can think of that will both get more out of Kona, and give back as a result of being there, than Tricia. Congratulations to you TB for your incredible good fortune, and congrats to us, for the all the fun we’re going to have sharing it with you! Brian Sullivan

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Not to worry, Tricia, about doing IMC and IMH.  Bill Bell, in his seventies and Madonna Buder, 67, did both and then went on to stellar performances at World’s championships in Australia.  So there shouldn’t really be any problem for a strapping young Tri-Baby.  All the qualifiers from IMC of course do it too.  You’ll enjoy both, I’m sure. Ruth Kazez

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Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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(Tricia Richter) It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick.

Not as sick as me!!   My name musta got stuck in the bottom of the barrel. Good Luck T-B. Dan Herrema

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To quote Homer Simpson, "Woo hoo!"  And then some.  Way to go! Mike in DC

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Just think of the hours of training, the streching exercises, the hydration….  and that only for the training and race reports!!!! Seriously congrats on your selection!  I was excited when AJ implied that you were going!  The way I look at it is if your coverage of Ironman Canada is any indication, your reports will let us all take part in the big dance! Good luck in Kona!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh dear.  Oh my.  Oh goodness.  Oh my god. It’s true.  I’m going. I’m going to be sick…. Kona-bound—- Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie

  You know the old saw about be careful what you wish for……now you have to prepare for some severe punishment, and thats just from some RSTers, and for the greatest and most memorable experience of your life. See ya there kiddo Cheers, Bernie Sher

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

Hey there Dave in Springfield.  I’m John in Springfield.  I’ve done Columbia 2x. It is a tough course and it’s early in the season.  The water may be cold.  The last year I did the race, 1994, I was one of two people in my heat who did not wear a wetsuit.  So get one if you don’t have one.  Personally, I don’t believe in them. The swim finishes into the sun. Well, I take that back. It did in 1993, but they changed the swim course so that in 1994 it was a point to point.  The bike has some wild hills.  Steep downs and long ups.  The run also has several big hills about mile 2 and 5.2.  The race itself is well run.  Have a great time. Jeb — //__   , Real triathletes don’t draft or wear wetsuits!

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

I lived in Columbia until recently and haved ridden the bike course many, many times.  I would definitely recommend riding it beforehand – just be careful riding on your own since it’s quite hilly and narrow and has gotten more congested over the years (with car traffic).  It’s a popular route, however, and you’ll most likely hook up with other riders fairly quickly.  The run course is also very hilly – but not nearly as hazardous regarding traffic.  Lots of runners at Centennial Park at all times.  One other note – you are not allowed to swim in the lake in general.  Good luck in the race!  Tom

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I just rode the bike course today.  I hope that when Vigo does the seeding he looks at that little box that says "First timer" and takes our projected times with a grain or two of salt. Paul Gimbel "Try-Athlete"

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(Stiffprop) writes: I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

Columbia is a great race. You swim into the sun for the first part of it which is tough for navigation but then you turn and go the opposite direction so most of the swim is fine.  The first time I did it the swim start sucked – all the women went in one wave and some of the "elites" who aren’t great swimmers started in the front and caused a major log jam. I got my leg pulled back and goggles yanked off. Brutal. After 200 yards it broke up and the rest was fine. Bike is pretty hilly and scenic. Fun as long as the roads aren’t wet. Run is HARD. Very hilly and since I last did it (Natls in ‘94?) I heard it got even hillier.  I’ve never seen so many people walking in a race! If you get a chance you should go to Centennial Park and ride the course followed by a run.  Last April I went there and triathletes & duathletes were coming and going every 15 mins or so.  I waited til I found a couple people who were planning on doing the bike course in 1:25 to 1:30 and rode with them.  The race app has a map in case you don’t want to ride with others.  I must have seen at least 15-20 others out on the course with aero bars on the out and back portion of the bike course. Have fun! -hug

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I lived in Columbia until recently and haved ridden the bike course many, many times.  I would definitely recommend riding it beforehand – just be careful riding on your own since it’s quite hilly and narrow and has gotten more congested over the years (with car traffic).  It’s a popular route, however, and you’ll most likely hook up with other riders fairly quickly.  The run course is also very hilly – but not nearly as hazardous regarding traffic.  Lots of runners at Centennial Park at all times.  One other note – you are not allowed to swim in the lake in general.  Good luck in the race!  Tom

Columbia is my favorite race of my season.  It is challenging, but it is fun none the less.  Definitely run and ride on hills -any hills, before you arrive so your not surprised.  Hopefully the water will be warmer this year than in the past because of the mild winter. It is the best run triathlon that I have ever been to.   Peter Viola

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Columbia is my favorite race of my season.  It is challenging, but it is fun none the less.  Definitely run and ride on hills -any hills, before you arrive so your not surprised.  Hopefully the water will be warmer this year than in the past because of the mild winter. It is the best run triathlon that I have ever been to. Peter Viola

THe winter wont influence the lake temp. It is a very shallow lake, temps and the amount of sun or rain will greatly influence the water temp. In the past ten years the weather has varied between blistering heat to freezing cold. But the Hills never seem to get smaller. TriRef

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   I’ve just purchased a new bike that has deep rim wheels.  When I tried to measure the air pressure in them using my Zefal tire gauge on the valve extenders (presta valves), I couldn’t get a reading.  If I removed the valve extenders, the valve is too short to use the gauge.  Does anyone know if you can do this?    Also, when I started pumping up the tires, there seemed to be a lot of air leakage around the valve extenders.  Is this common?  I thought about wrapping teflon tape around the valve before putting on the extenders. Any thoughts?    Thanks,

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  I’ve just purchased a new bike that has deep rim wheels.  When I tried to measure the air pressure in them using my Zefal tire gauge on the valve extenders (presta valves), I couldn’t get a reading.  If I removed the valve extenders, the valve is too short to use the gauge.  Does anyone know if you can do this?   Also, when I started pumping up the tires, there seemed to be a lot of air leakage around the valve extenders.  Is this common?  I thought about wrapping teflon tape around the valve before putting on the extenders.

Teflon tape is a common solution to the leaking problem.  I haven’t found an extender that works very well, other than the ones that come with the Campy wheels (i.e. Shamals) where you actually remove the valve assembly from the tube (or tubular tire) and install it on the extender which is then installed on the tube/tire. If the valve extends though the rim without an extender, you should be able to use a presta-schraeder adaptor on it.  The adaptor screws onto the "cap" threads only, so not much of the stem needs to be showing. Of course, you’ll have to use a schraeder pump, but since I’ve got one, this is how I fill up my own deep dish wheels. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.cynetfl.com/habanero Home of the $675 ti frame

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I agree with the other responses, most extenders leak or are a hassle.  I solved the problem by buying tubes that come with extra long valve cores. No more extenders needed!  Inside Triathlon has an ad in the back for a company called Aerotubes that sells the long stem tubes.  

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   I’ve just purchased a new bike that has deep rim wheels.  When I tried to measure the air pressure in them using my Zefal tire gauge on the valve extenders (presta valves), I couldn’t get a reading.  If I removed the valve extenders, the valve is too short to use the gauge.  Does anyone know if you can do this?

Buy a pump with a gauge on it.    Also, when I started pumping up the tires, there seemed to be a lot of air leakage around the valve extenders.  Is this common?  I thought about wrapping teflon tape around the valve before putting on the extenders.

The teflon tape works great.  You may want to call Steve’s Multisport to see if he has the new inner tubes with the extended valves.  You will avoid the use of teflon and you will be able to use your gauge. Regards, Carlos Torres de Navarra Coral Gables, Florida

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  I’ve just purchased a new bike that has deep rim wheels.  When I tried to measure the air pressure in them using my Zefal tire gauge on the valve extenders (presta valves), I couldn’t get a reading.  If I removed the valve extenders, the valve is too short to use the gauge.  Does anyone know if you can do this?   Also, when I started pumping up the tires, there seemed to be a lot of air leakage around the valve extenders.  Is this common?  I thought about wrapping teflon tape around the valve before putting on the extenders. Any thoughts?   Thanks,

Teflon tape works great as a sealant around the valve extender connection. As for the pressure guage, I assume you must be using an extender that just screws on over the open valve. Some of the newer extenders ( UFO, for one) actually remove the valve assembly,and relocate it at the outer end of the extender. This makes filling, releasing, and checking pressure much easier. Also, if you are using clinchers, I have seen ads for tubes with extra long valve stems. Andrew Peabody Coconut Grove. — Internet Communications Of America

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I agree with the other responses, most extenders leak or are a hassle.  I solved the problem by buying tubes that come with extra long valve cores. No more extenders needed!  Inside Triathlon has an ad in the back for a company called Aerotubes that sells the long stem tubes.

Vittoria make tubes with long stems (51mm). I’ve just put one in a Vento and it sure beats messing around with the adaptor. The adaptor isn’t so bad but if you only put them on to pump up the tyre and then remove them, the little rubber o-ring breaks and then it leaks. Bob

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  I’ve just purchased a new bike that has deep rim wheels.  When I tried to measure the air pressure in them using my Zefal tire gauge on the valve extenders (presta valves), I couldn’t get a reading.  If I removed the valve extenders, the valve is too short to use the gauge.  Does anyone know if you can do this?

Three solutions.   1) Zipp and others make tubes with longer stems that are specifically designed for deep rim wheels.  One suggested source would be John Cobb’s Bicycle Sports.  The address and phone number are  288 Southfield  Shreveport, LA  71105  800-365-2453. 2) UFO makes a valve extender so you can use your existing tube. 3) You can buy a presta-schrader adapter ( < $2 ) and pump/measure your tires using schrader compatible equipment.  This is what I do.   Also, when I started pumping up the tires, there seemed to be a lot of air leakage around the valve extenders.  Is this common?  I thought about wrapping teflon tape around the valve before putting on the extenders. Any thoughts?   Thanks,

Teflon tape is exactly what you should use. CST-3: Analytical Quality & Chemical Info Mgt    Los Alamos National Lab _-           -_    Group Leader, CST-3      -__       __-                                     /    cis:      72410,3372         /  

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-all sorts of good stuff about clincher-deep rim solutions- I’m interested in what’s the best solution for deep-rim tubular wheels.  I just got a deal on a tubular HED CX, so are there tubular tires with long valve stems, or is it teflon tape all the way? and on another note, which tire?  is there anything semi-economical worth getting?  of course a main point about tubulars is saving weight. thanks for any help. cheers, v — Vaughn Cooper Center for Microbial Ecology, Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824 (517) 353-3953/3955 voice/fax

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The title says it all. Cameron

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Cameron, Thanks for that very inspiring race report.  I relished every word of it! Here’s to TRIing. Lucy

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I racked my bike and threw on my shoes before George removed his skid lid.  Vengeance is mine, snailboy.  This was as far as George could push me, for he was not yet a runner.  As I headed out on the run, I tried to remember when I passed Jennifer on the bike.  I had lent her my Fuqua School of Business cycling jersey for her to wear, and I couldn

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Well let’s see-    He finished 4th overall, looks comfortable, has a forward position, and flat back. Needs a mojo somewhere, but otherwise seems to work. Rich

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I am slow to reading the August Triathlete, so pardon me if you have already tossed yours, but check out the photo of Tim Watson’s bike and position on page 32. What bike is that? And what kind of drop does he have from the saddle to the bars? I find it hard to believe had can crank 40K like that. Brian Sullivan

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His bike is a Javelin. I don’t know what the drop is between bars and saddle.  It seems he is kind of defeating the purpose of aerobars.  You could drive a truck through the space between his head and forearms. . .

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I recall seeing an inspirational quote posted on one of the rec* newsgroups (running, triathlon or cycling) in Latin that approximated "Better, Stronger, Faster."  Does anybody recall what it was? –Stefan

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I recall seeing an inspirational quote posted on one of the rec* newsgroups (running, triathlon or cycling) in Latin that approximated "Better, Stronger, Faster."  Does anybody recall what it was? –Stefan

Try Citius, Altius, Fortius That’s ?, higher, stronger

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I recall seeing an inspirational quote posted on one of the rec* newsgroups (running, triathlon or cycling) in Latin that approximated "Better, Stronger, Faster."  Does anybody recall what it was? –Stefan

Ah, it’s familiar.  Yes… it’s the introduction to the "six million dollar man":   Gentleman, we can rebuild him; better, stronger, faster, longer" They don’t make tv shows like that any more! —

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Is it just me, or are there a disproportionately large number of Scotts (first or surname) on this newsgroup, nay, in this sport?  What the heck is going on? (I mean Scott the name, not Scot, the nationality) Cheers, Scott. — Scott Shackleton               __o       o Johns Hopkins University     _`<,_     /|V     Coffee: Dept. of Psychology         (_)/ (_)    /      breakfast of champions

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Is it just me, or are there a disproportionately large number of Scotts (first or surname) on this newsgroup, nay, in this sport?  What the heck is going on? (I mean Scott the name, not Scot, the nationality) Cheers, Scott.

What the heck are you talking about? — LSC (aka Larry SCOTT Chapman)

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| | Is it just me, or are there a disproportionately large number | of Scotts (first or surname) on this newsgroup, nay, in this | sport?  What the heck is going on? | (I mean Scott the name, not Scot, the nationality) | | Cheers, Scott. | | — | Scott Shackleton               __o       o | Johns Hopkins University     _`<,_     /|V     Coffee: | Dept. of Psychology         (_)/ (_)    /      breakfast of champions    I was noticing this too…Did someone’s parents talk to mine    27 years ago in Fredericksburg, Va?

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I think we’re taking over the tri world! Scott — =         __o        Scott J. Erdman              Allen-Bradley Company      = =___o_    /  _                                fax   (216)646-4343        = =~~~~~~    /        "Just Tri It!"                                          =

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: I think we’re taking over the tri world! : Scott : — : =         __o        Scott J. Erdman              Allen-Bradley Company      = : =___o_    /  _                                fax   (216)646-4343        = : =~~~~~~    /        "Just Tri It!"                                          = Surely it always was that way I mean — Dave, Tinley, Molina!!! — James Tappin,           School of Physics & Space Research                         University of Birmingham                         "If all else fails–read the instructions!"                          O__                           —  /` P.S. (a) My first name isn’t Scott      (b) I’m not a triathlete any more

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Back in the mid-80’s when the "big 4" were Tinley, Molina, Dave, and MArk Allen I noticed the same thing.  I entered one of our local races as Scot Scott to see if there was any magic in the name, but I didn’t go any faster …

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        Is it just me, or are there a disproportionately large number     of Scotts (first or surname) on this newsgroup, nay, in this     sport?  What the heck is going on?     (I mean Scott the name, not Scot, the nationality)         Cheers, Scott. Well, look at the triathletes:         Scott Tinley         Dave Scott         Scott (?) Molina     And you’re wondering? Maybe all the parents were Star Trek fans   Paul Menon,   Dept of Computer Science,   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology,   124 Latrobe Street,   Melbourne 3001,   Victoria, Australia. ph:    +61 3 660 3209/2348         ICBM: lat 37^ 50′ long 145^ 0′ E fax:   +61 3 662 1617

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: Hi, : I will be doing my first half-Ironman distance race on April 30th (it’s : getting awfully close!); it will be Wildflower Long Course.  I have done : olympic distance before, but need some advice on Long Course events. : (1) What do you wear in a Long Course Tri?  Should I do it in padded :     swim trunks (which is what I wear in Olympic Course), or lightly :     padded cycling shorts (like the InSport model)?  Or should I :     change after the swim and/or the bike? :     I always used to wear bike shorts with a light padding for all three stages (except for Fountain Mountain where wetsuits were forbidden), but then I also used unpadded bike shorts for shorter distances and even just for running. : (2) In short races, I bike and run sockless. :     What should I do in Long Course? I rarely used socks for half-ironman, just put vaseline on any seams in your shoes and use LOTS of talcum powder. : Kostya Vasilyev                                               run like a cheetah : SYMANTEC Corp. Development Tools                      eat like a pig : (408) 446-7165                                                party like hell Good luck, — James Tappin,           School of Physics & Space Research                         University of Birmingham                         "If all else fails–read the instructions!"                          O__                           —  /`

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| Hi, | | I will be doing my first half-Ironman distance race on April 30th (it’s | getting awfully close!); it will be Wildflower Long Course.   Whatever you do, don’t repeat my mistake.  I did the race with a 13-21 and even though I *like* hills, the 21 wasn’t nearly wimpy enough for some of the really steep hills.  Anyone done a tougher 1/2 Ironman course than Wildflower?  I would guess that Semi-Tough is more difficult, but no others come to mind…

Wildflower has some pretty steep hills on the course.  There are a few at the beginning, but most come at the end.  I measured 2550 feet of climbing when I last did the race in 1992. Regarding Semi-Tough: It isn’t a 1/2 ironman, it is an international distance race.  I guess that Charlie Lincoln realized that anyone who would want to do a fiendishly hilly 1/2 ironman would probably already be signed up for World’s Toughest.  Not having done Semi-Tough, you’ll have to take my comments with a grain of salt.  I imagine the bike course would follow the same roads as Toughest, in which case it really wouldn’t be very hilly.  Keeping the distance around 40K would put you on top of Luther Pass before it is time to turn around. The ride to the base of Luther is relatively flat.  I’m not sure what they do on the run.  There could be some some pretty primitive trails if they follow a course similar to Toughest, but again the real hills from the Toughest course are beyond the range of a 10K.  I tend to think that Donner Lake Tri has a tougher bike course (2350 feet of climbing in <25 miles), but the last descent is a blast! I really wish I could find more hilly races!                                         — John — John Walker                Jackson & Tull Chartered Engineers

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| Hi, | | I will be doing my first half-Ironman distance race on April 30th (it’s | getting awfully close!); it will be Wildflower Long Course.   Whatever you do, don’t repeat my mistake.  I did the race with a 13-21 and even though I *like* hills, the 21 wasn’t nearly wimpy enough for some of the really steep hills.  Anyone done a tougher 1/2 Ironman course than Wildflower?  I would guess that Semi-Tough is more difficult, but no others come to mind… | I have done | olympic distance before, but need some advice on Long Course events. | | (1) What do you wear in a Long Course Tri?  Should I do it in padded |     swim trunks (which is what I wear in Olympic Course), or lightly |     padded cycling shorts (like the InSport model)?  Or should I |     change after the swim and/or the bike? I wear padded swim trunks and a singlet.  Since it is likely to be 90+ at Wildflower, I stongly recommend a singlet on the bike to prevent burning. | (2) In short races, I bike and run sockless. |     What should I do in Long Course? Definitely wear socks.   — Mike Gilson "For those who think, life is a comedy; for those who feel, life is a tragedy."

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Hi! I’ve done my first half Ironman two years ago. It’s a great distance (not too short, not too long). For the swim, I only had my swimsuit under my wetsuit and I put dry cycling shorts and triathlon singlet after the swim. In fact it depends on what you expect from this race: if you’re racing for a great place in your age group (or overall), you may want to shave some seconds on the total time. I lost maybe 20 seconds at the transition and this is not much on a 4h47 race! For the running I put socks (20 seconds also) and I feel great for the whole race. A friend who did the whole race with race with a swimsuit was 15 minutes after me at the end (and we’re usually at the same level). This may not be due to his clothes but how know? For such long race, I prefer to have some confort than shaving only 40 seconds and suffering the last 2 hours! Enjoy your race! Frederic

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Hi, I will be doing my first half-Ironman distance race on April 30th (it’s getting awfully close!); it will be Wildflower Long Course.  I have done olympic distance before, but need some advice on Long Course events. (1) What do you wear in a Long Course Tri?  Should I do it in padded     swim trunks (which is what I wear in Olympic Course), or lightly     padded cycling shorts (like the InSport model)?  Or should I     change after the swim and/or the bike? (2) In short races, I bike and run sockless.     What should I do in Long Course? Kostya Vasilyev                                         run like a cheetah SYMANTEC Corp. Development Tools                        eat like a pig (408) 446-7165                                          party like hell

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