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Brightroom: http://www.brightroom.com/view_event.asp?EVENTID=1948 Wow, thanks. As far as I can calculate there are some 10,000 pictures available… don’t spend your time looking through them unless you don’t have a life… put your race number in and they’ll e-mail you a link that includes most of your pictures assuming your race number was visible. I managed to find a few wetsuit pictures as well.

It’s hard to find the swimming ones, but with an ethernet connection it goes fast enough.  Like last year, I remain quite impressed with the quality of pics that Brightroom delivers.  Of all the ones I’ve seen proofs for, they’re a step above. Now, if only they’d offer electronic delivery… ++Mark.

Aye, I wish they would do that and will write them suggesting it.  Others in the biz do sell the images themselves.  You should do the same.   — Jason O’Rourke www.jor.com

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Anyone know if there will be any online pictures from last Sundays Escape from Alcatraz race ? I saw a few online on the race home page yesterday but they are gone today. Was the race covered by www.myraceday.com ?? ++Mark.

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Anyone know if there will be any online pictures from last Sundays Escape from Alcatraz race ?

[snip] Brightroom: http://www.brightroom.com/view_event.asp?EVENTID=1948 Duathlon.com currently has a few pics up from the race: http://www.duathlon.com/articles/2114 -Jed

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Was Luc van Lierde from Belgium in the race ? I thought he planned to do so. Lieven

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know if there will be any online pictures from last Sundays Escape from Alcatraz race ? [snip] Brightroom: http://www.brightroom.com/view_event.asp?EVENTID=1948 Duathlon.com currently has a few pics up from the race: http://www.duathlon.com/articles/2114 -Jed

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Was Luc van Lierde from Belgium in the race ? I thought he planned to do so.

No and was never on the start list. About eighty other pros though. Really good field, both men and women., clm in sf — cathy morgan san francisco, ca

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Brightroom: http://www.brightroom.com/view_event.asp?EVENTID=1948

Wow, thanks. As far as I can calculate there are some 10,000 pictures available… don’t spend your time looking through them unless you don’t have a life… put your race number in and they’ll e-mail you a link that includes most of your pictures assuming your race number was visible. I managed to find a few wetsuit pictures as well. Now, if only they’d offer electronic delivery… ++Mark.

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Since the summer it has been a goal of mine to do some, since I have an excellent swimmer friend (not a bad runner, either), as well as a cycling demon who loves long distance. I would obviously run. I would like to get involved in the Oly-type ones next spring/summer where the run is 10k, but would consider a full Ironman, provided the timing was right (I have a marathon in October I don’t want to endanger). Anyway, anyone know where I can go? I live near Toronto and would like to enter a couple in this area, but as a relay team. Do most allow relay? I did a web search and it was kind of frustrating. I know there is one in Burlington in August(?). That’s all I have found. thanks, David (in Ontario) — —  :*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.  "Nunc scio quid sit amor." .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.

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A local tri here allows relay teams, but I think you’re going to end up just searching for tri’s that are the right place and time and then emailing them to see if they allow relay teams. -S- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the summer it has been a goal of mine to do some, since I have an excellent swimmer friend (not a bad runner, either), as well as a cycling demon who loves long distance. I would obviously run. I would like to get involved in the Oly-type ones next spring/summer where the run is 10k, but would consider a full Ironman, provided the timing was right (I have a marathon in October I don’t want to endanger). Anyway, anyone know where I can go? I live near Toronto and would like to enter a couple in this area, but as a relay team. Do most allow relay? I did a web search and it was kind of frustrating. I know there is one in Burlington in August(?). That’s all I have found. thanks, David (in Ontario) — —  :*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.  "Nunc scio quid sit amor." .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.

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David, Most triathlons have a relay event.  You can usually elect to have an all male, all female, or mixed team.  Since we are starting the winter, not many of the triathlon race lists have been completed.  For general race calanders, I suggest you check out: www.triathletemag.com http://www.greatoutdoors.com/auto_docs/insidetri/ For something more specific to your area, drop the people at:: http://www.crosstrainingclub.com/ a line.  They should be able to direct you towards a local calander. Eric Weiss – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the summer it has been a goal of mine to do some, since I have an excellent swimmer friend (not a bad runner, either), as well as a cycling demon who loves long distance. I would obviously run. I would like to get involved in the Oly-type ones next spring/summer where the run is 10k, but would consider a full Ironman, provided the timing was right (I have a marathon in October I don’t want to endanger). Anyway, anyone know where I can go? I live near Toronto and would like to enter a couple in this area, but as a relay team. Do most allow relay? I did a web search and it was kind of frustrating. I know there is one in Burlington in August(?). That’s all I have found. thanks, David (in Ontario) — — :*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. "Nunc scio quid sit amor." .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.

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Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

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Thanks Brian, I have taken care of our internal problems. Steve’s Multisport. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

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Thanks Brian, I have taken care of our internal problems. Steve’s Multisport. Two ads here from Steve’s now have "this ad not affiliated with Steve’s Multisport" at the end. They ask for response to a yahoo address.  Steve should tell his employees to get their own posting address, or edit the ‘from’ header on their posts.

Steve should also consider that similar transactions reflect very poorly on the company, even if they are private rather than from the store.

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Steve should also consider that similar transactions reflect very poorly on the company, even if they are private rather than from the store.

Via email, he has informed me that his employees’ access to his Usenet feed have been revoked.  It is unfortunate that when a small business is generous to their employees with their resources, such benefits are often abused.

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Really, I can spell.  Honestly

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Agreed. Kind of funny to be having a long thread about Steve without him here. Wierd. Nevertheless, I completely agree that it is a bad idea to allow employees to use the company name to do their personal business. In a legal sense, (I’m no attorney) I doubt it’s even possible to do so without at least incurring some type of company responsibility for the sale. I also agree that I have had good experiences with Steve’s Multisport. Only good experiences, in fact. Mike

  Actually, there is a legal precident for this: In putting something up for advertisement under a company name, that company is effectively responcible for the sale of the item, and it’s quality based on the quality of the company.  Therefore, if Crappy Company has someone put something up for sale under the Crappy Company namesake, the quality of the item can be based on the quality of the server.  Essentially, you don’t goto a Chevrolet dealership expecting a Ferrari to be in as good a shape as you would at a Ferrari dealership. Just my $0.02  Dan "Still looking for a triathlon bike I can afford" Meleason

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This is part of my point, very well phrased.  I know I didn’t buy the wheel from Steve, but when I see a post with a shop’s name on it (one that isn’t repeatedly flamed, especially) I think to myself, "well, I should get some decent service out of this at least."  Since the shop’s name is a selling feature, I don’t think it’s fair to use it unless the shop is going to back the product in question.  It’s just plain misleading.  If Steve doesn’t want to be held responsible for products being sold under his shop’s name he shouldn’t let his employees use it for their personal business.  It takes all of about 30 seconds to setup another news account on Outlook Express. salud, Matt

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This is part of my point, very well phrased.  I know I didn’t buy the wheel from Steve, but when I see a post with a shop’s name on it (one that isn’t repeatedly flamed, especially) I think to myself, "well, I should get some decent service out of this at least."  Since the shop’s name is a selling feature, I don’t think it’s fair to use it unless the shop is going to back the product in question.  It’s just plain misleading.  If Steve doesn’t want to be held responsible for products being sold under his shop’s name he shouldn’t let his employees use it for their personal business.  It takes all of about 30 seconds to setup another news account on Outlook Express.

Exactly why many companies prohibit conducting outside business transactions via their facilities.

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Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Agreed. Kind of funny to be having a long thread about Steve without him here. Wierd. Nevertheless, I completely agree that it is a bad idea to allow employees to use the company name to do their personal business. In a legal sense, (I’m no attorney) I doubt it’s even possible to do so without at least incurring some type of company responsibility for the sale. I also agree that I have had good experiences with Steve’s Multisport. Only good experiences, in fact. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe yes, maybe no…I understand that B&L is the only bike shop at Ironman expos this year. Plus he emailed me only 3 days ago about a WTB that I posted. Regardless, I’ve had both good and bad experiences with his shop. I prefer to keep them to myself, but I know that right now there is a Tune Powertap for sale on RBM with a Steve’s Multisport email address (just posted yesterday BTW). A disclaimer in the ad states that it is a private sale, not through the shop but maybe it would be wise for Steve to forbid his employees from advertising their private sales through his business email. The email address is what people see on the posting and that would take him and his business out of the loop when someone is selling damaged goods and just happens to work for him. It’s hard enough to run a successful business these days without having your own employees dirtying your hard earned reputation. I know that Steve has worked hard through the years and means well, but customer service is very inconsistent from my experience. He may not always be the responsible party, but when you put your name on the door you take the blame for the bad along with the credit for the good. cheers, Andrew I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_) Before you buy.

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Maybe yes, maybe no…I understand that B&L is the only bike shop at Ironman expos this year. Plus he emailed me only 3 days ago about a WTB that I posted. Regardless, I’ve had both good and bad experiences with his shop. I prefer to keep them to myself, but I know that right now there is a Tune Powertap for sale on RBM with a Steve’s Multisport email address (just posted yesterday BTW). A disclaimer in the ad states that it is a private sale, not through the shop but maybe it would be wise for Steve to forbid his employees from advertising their private sales through his business email. The email address is what people see on the posting and that would take him and his business out of the loop when someone is selling damaged goods and just happens to work for him. It’s hard enough to run a successful business these days without having your own employees dirtying your hard earned reputation. I know that Steve has worked hard through the years and means well, but customer service is very inconsistent from my experience. He may not always be the responsible party, but when you put your name on the door you take the blame for the bad along with the credit for the good. cheers, Andrew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

Before you buy.

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I would strongly imagine that the reason Steve hasn’t responded is that he’s busy with the Expo at Ironman Lake Placid this week. He was there all week last year. Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether or not the wheel was an employee’s personal item or not, Steve put up the ad w/ his shop name (advertising opportunity I would guess) and by inference should help resolve the problem.  Interesting all the follow-ups but none from Steve (or Mike) when the former is generally real swift on responding to WTB’s! Dittos around here. I just about two weeks ago received a used HED DISC from Steve, overnight nevertheless! As advertised, in great shape. I don’t doubt you had the experience you relayed to us below, but it almost sounds as if you bought a personal wheel from one of Steve’s employees, and not from Steves Multisport. If so, you’re not dealing with Steve. If not, it’s hard to believe that a stand up guy like Steve wouldn’t make every attempt to satisfy you. Schwing Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Sorry to hear about your problem, but I honestly can’t say that I am very suprised.  I have had two experiences with that shop, and both have been less than ideal.  The first was much like yours; I responded to an ad on RBM for a new limar helmet.  The long and short of it is that I received what was obviously a used helmet.  I called with the problem and was told to send it back and they would refund return shipping as well as helmet cost. Then, a couple weeks later I call to ask about the refund which hadn’t been taken care of, and they got mad because I shipped it from Mail Boxes Etc. (the only place closeby my college campus).  Recently, my dad ordered a KM40 frameset from them. It arrived in perfect shape, but it took about a week and a half longer than he was told to arrive.  I personally won’t shop there anymore. Before you buy.

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Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner.   Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Same here. In fact, the one time I did have trouble (though no fault of Steve’s – the UPS Gorilla got hold of the box and mangled it, losing two tires in the process) Steve put replacements in the mail immediately. — Regards, Gene Tolli – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry to hear about your bad luck.  I’ve ordered from Steve in the past and gotten exactly what was advertised in a timely manner. Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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That really sucks. I bought a cheap used pair of aerobars from them and although the aerobars were fine, they didn’t ship it when promised, and when I called to ask about it the person I spoke with had a laissez faire attitude. Was definitely not concerned about whether I was happy doing business with them, so they don’t seem to be too strong on the idea of customer service. Left a bad taste for sure.  In any event there are plenty of other people to buy stuff from here on rbr who are quite honest. Sorry if you lost your money, but you do have other options, hope you don’t just give up. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Before I start, I’d like to invite both Mike and Steve to offer their respective sides to the story in order to get everything out in the open. A couple weeks ago I responded to the following post (a response to a WTB I posted on RBM) from Steve at Steve’s Multisport: I have a HED 700c ultralite tubular disc 8/9s cassette  the price is $350.00 shipped It is in great shape a few minor blemishes used for 1 year Call steves multisport 610 631 7822 ask for mike I called Mike to hammer out the details and promptly sent him a check.  I received the wheel in a reasonable amount of time, and it was packaged well. I expected the wheel to have a few dings, and initially any damage present seemed to be mostly cosmetic.  However, upon closer inspection I found the wheel to have 3 separate cracks which went all the way through the wheels carbon fiber matrix.  Also, I found an additional 3 inch long crack in the carbon starting at the valve post hole. I thought about it awhile, and I decided to call Mike and ask for a refund. I called him and asked if we could work a return because I felt the wheel wasn’t received in the condition specified in the post.  He said, "I really can’t," and that was it. As a side note, I also emailed Steve and asked him to take responsibility for the wheel since he wrote the post and verified the condition of the wheel.  He simply said that he saw the wheel, it was in great shape, and the wheel wasn’t his so he took no responsibility for it.  If a cracked carbon fiber wheel passes for ‘great shape’ then perhaps one should think twice about Mike and Steve’s judgement when it comes to used equipment. caveat emptor, Matthew J. Thomas

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Before I start, I’d like to invite both Mike and Steve to offer their respective sides to the story in order to get everything out in the open. A couple weeks ago I responded to the following post (a response to a WTB I posted on RBM) from Steve at Steve’s Multisport: I have a HED 700c ultralite tubular disc 8/9s cassette  the price is $350.00 shipped It is in great shape a few minor blemishes used for 1 year Call steves multisport 610 631 7822 ask for mike

I called Mike to hammer out the details and promptly sent him a check.  I received the wheel in a reasonable amount of time, and it was packaged well. I expected the wheel to have a few dings, and initially any damage present seemed to be mostly cosmetic.  However, upon closer inspection I found the wheel to have 3 separate cracks which went all the way through the wheels carbon fiber matrix.  Also, I found an additional 3 inch long crack in the carbon starting at the valve post hole. I thought about it awhile, and I decided to call Mike and ask for a refund. I called him and asked if we could work a return because I felt the wheel wasn’t received in the condition specified in the post.  He said, "I really can’t," and that was it. As a side note, I also emailed Steve and asked him to take responsibility for the wheel since he wrote the post and verified the condition of the wheel.  He simply said that he saw the wheel, it was in great shape, and the wheel wasn’t his so he took no responsibility for it.  If a cracked carbon fiber wheel passes for ‘great shape’ then perhaps one should think twice about Mike and Steve’s judgement when it comes to used equipment. caveat emptor, Matthew J. Thomas

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Hello. I had an ACL reconstruction last year, and find that my knee yells at me when I run too much (e.g., consecutive days, hard days, long days).  My knee coos when I cycle or swim. I am considering training on non- or low-impact machines one or maybe two days per week to reduce the stress, but I still want to do some run-specific training (my worst event).  My question is, which machines most closely approximate running — which are more perfect substitutes for the real thing?  Eliptical runners?  Stairmasters?  Precor?  Body Trec? Please advise…. Cheers!

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I have been told by many people that there is no exact substitute for running (some claim that even a treadmill is a poor substitute).  I do, however, a lot of cross training in the winter.  Probably the two closest-to-running exercises I do are the Stairmaster and the ski machine.  Neither of these puts much stress on my knees.  I have also been told by many people that the elliptical trainer is a good no- impact substitute for running.  While different muscle groups are stressed in each of these exercises, whatever form you choose will assuredly train the most important muscle – your heart. Good luck with the knees. Kurt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello. I had an ACL reconstruction last year, and find that my knee yells at me when I run too much (e.g., consecutive days, hard days, long days). My knee coos when I cycle or swim. I am considering training on non- or low-impact machines one or maybe two days per week to reduce the stress, but I still want to do some run-specific training (my worst event).  My question is, which machines most closely approximate running — which are more perfect substitutes for the real thing?  Eliptical runners?  Stairmasters?  Precor?  Body Trec? Please advise…. Cheers!

– Kurt Estes http://kestes.homepage.com/Triathlon/tri_links.htm Before you buy.

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Hello.    After finishing my first triathlon this past weekend, I’m planning my big race this year to be an Olympic Distance race in August (with possibly Muncie afterwards if I do well).  I’m considering Schu’s and National City and was wondering if anyone has done these races and how they compare. Do they normally fill up far in advance?  Thanks for your help.

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I’m considering Schu’s and National City and was wondering if anyone has done these races and how they compare. Do they normally fill up far in advance?  Thanks for your help.

If you want a race where the whole town comes out to cheer you on, all the roads are smooth and cleared of traffic, the distances are accurately measured using GPS, and the pre- and post-race food is plentiful, then pick Schu’s.  If you like inner city racing on potholed roads and a race that supported drafting it’s past few years, pick NCC. Todd Jensen

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Have not done Schu’s but loks to be a good run race as well as National City. Schu’s brings in some big names and they have been only doing triathlons a few years I think. Last year National City was a huge championship race so I believe it will be organized really well. If you feel good and train well with a good taper you will do good at olympic distance. As far as Muncie goes, pick up your distances in each one and add a hard brick og 50-60 miles on the bike then back it up with a 6-9 mile run. This can tell you alot if this is a distance you want to do. First Muncie I did, did ok thru swim did not drink or eat much on the bike and ended up walking for 13.1 miles. This is a painful way to go. You will want to quit more than once. Last year trained much smarter and shaved 1:21 off my time. Proper training and set-up Muncie will not be that hard and they run it very well. Should be cool weather which helps but train well, taper and eat and drink. Go for it. Mark "Pain is Temporary,   Pride is Permanent"

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<<Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area? One of the best Tri shops in the Great Lakes area is Bikesport, which is in Dearborn.  Ask the owner, Tom Demerly, your question.  You’ll get the answers you need. QRman

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The Ann Arbor Triathlon club has weekly timetrials and brick workouts on Thursday nights. We also do an occational open water swim. Members also often get together at odd time for impromtue rides and runs. People come from as far away as Grosse Ile to our workouts. If your interested send me some email. – Doug Douglas P. Drob                        !  ’Your weaknesses will pull you Space Physics Research Laboratory      !   down more than your strengths The University of Michigan             !   will pull you up’ 2455 Hayward Ave                       ! Ann Arbor, MI 48109                    !  - The Weakest Link Principle Phone 313-747-3450

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The riding group in  Dearborn, Mich. is on Wednesday evenings.  We start at 6:30  and ride for a little over an hour.  The ride is fast! and a tremendouse training session.  The ride includes cyclists and triathletes. I am trying to remeber the name of the park we start at and for the life of me the name has slipped my mind.  I will post it if anyone is interested when I get the name. Jay

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Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area?

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My goof on the name..yes indeed Charles Haley made a bit more money for his football efforts. Nice to see DARYL finish, too bad about all of the 70+ men and women.

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ever DNF’ed before???  I could not find Charles Haley in the listing, as

That’s ’cause Charles had a game to play on Sun. (probably made more than all the Kona money winners put together, too!), but you mean Daryl Haley. Whaddaya wanna bet he DNF or missed the bike cutoff, being late out of the water and hitting the worst of the headwinds with a bit of an aero disadvantage? Kurian Davis

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Forgive me if someone has posted this yet (my newfeed really stinks of late), however JTL timing has reults (with splits) for nearly everyone!  I’ve put a link to their site on the very first page of my site, or you can go directly there at: http://ilhawaii.net/~m_gleaf/results/95_im/im.html Race must have been incredibly brutal, as it appears that non of the 70+ age men finished!  Other notable DNF’s include Tinley and Devlin!  Has Tinley ever DNF’ed before???  I could not find Charles Haley in the listing, as there appear to still be some holes.  Hats off, however, to JTL Timing for their quick posting. Marty The Triathlete’s Web http://w3.one.net/~triweb

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The format came out wrong on this.  Any suggestions on how to clean it up? sorry.

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Has the issue of the legality of the Ironman lottery ever been adequately addressed?  I have some real concerns that it could be deemed an illegal lottery under most (if not all) state laws.  The three-part test for an illegal lottery is consideration, chance and a prize.  The first two are obviously met (e.g., passport club fee, general lottery fee, and a random drawing).  The latter may or may not be present, if you deem an entry as something of value.   Just some throughts to ponder for all of you legal types out there. — Marty Miller Proprietor of The Triathlete’s Web http://www.iac.net/~miller/triweb.html

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To: rec.sport.triathlon Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: The World Triathlon Corporation (WTC) owns Ironman with all the rights that entails. I view WTC also as the custodian of a portion o= f the total pie that is the soul of Ironman beyond the concept of the balance sheet. As custodians of a portion of the soul pie ther= e are obligations in relation to their business policy and perogatives. WTC enhances or diminishes their specific custodial portion = of the spirit through practices and policies that they are entitled to control as a function of ownership. The soul of Ironman belongs to everyone who shares its spirit. Triathletes think of themselves as majority owners in this regard but=  we always give a big ovation to the volunteers and recognize their participation as well as the race staff, spectators and everyone=  connected with the race including the sponsors. Our best personal ovation is given to those who support us most. Ironman encompasse= s alot of people, past and present that have made it what it is today. WTC has a legal right to portion out qualifiers any way they want, I suppose. On the other hand this is one of the things that direc= tly relates to the spirit of the sport and they should consider that as well as consistency with their own policy. That is the premise I want to present for further discussion. I believe that the WTC Passport lottery conflicts to some degree not only with their own intent for this lottery but the general spi= rit of Ironman. If we think we are big shareholders in the spirit and view WTC as accountable for their custodianship of part of the=  spirit then their feet should be held to the fire if necessary. RST provides a forum for warming feet. I would like to offer this thread for discussion. Offering a lead in the thread is like casti= ng feathers in the wind. Once cast they have a life of their own and don’t belong to the one that tossed them. If this one flies and=  RST’ers join to take a pull I would like to take the final lead and wrap it up with a letter to WTC. WTC Passport lottery gives everyone in the USA a chance to do Ironman Kona. The intent is to let the person who could not otherwise = win a qualifier get a try at the big one. WTC statements (sometimes defensive) in prior publications, as well as in Inside Ironman (= their official newsletter) promote the idea of offering a once in a lifetime experience through the lottery. About 20% of the 185 lucky winners last year had done Ironman Kona once or more before. About 30% of all California winners. This da= ta is obtained by comparing the list of winners in Inside Ironman to the bios of participants handed out at Kona. The bio info is pr= obably drawn from the info sheets we submit. If prior Ironman races are not included in our input they would not show in the program=  The percent of prior participants may therefore be more than 20%. Take your own lottery list and do your own analysis on this year= s winners when you get the bio in Kona. The lottery, in general, is a dead horse well beaten. The outcome of the beating was a staunch defense on the part of WTC. They woul= d continue the lottery, period. I say beat it again, with a new stick. If WTC is true to what it says or even implies then exclude all prior Kona Ironmen from participation in the lottery. This takes a b= it of soul searching for some of us to support but think about it, I have been there too. Think about the spirit and if there must b= e a lottery let’s step back and let others participate. What is it to many of us but a back up to not winning a qualifier? Let’s tak= e the 50 bucks, invest in titanium and give a friend a shot. Really make it an opportunity for a ONCE IN A LIFETIME EXPERIENCE. This=  puts WTC between a rock and a hard place. WTC can say: We mean what we say and support what we imply. Then turn on the asterisk for qualification: What we said was experience=  of a lifetime not once in a life time experience. Read their newsletter and decide which variation of this idea they are promoting.=  If prior Ironmen are excluded, fewer would try the lottery. We are talking money here. We are also talking something else. The outc= ome looks difficult for WTC. It is hard to defend a noble objective (more implied than real) yet continue it in the face of denying = a more noble objective. Are you fulfilling a life long dream by giving 20% to those that did it before? Can you have your cake and e= at it too? This is one of those areas where they are a custodian of part of the Ironman spirit and it looks like spirit meets busine= ss head on. I propose: a. Reduce the number of Ironman Passport lottery spots by a percent that went to prior participants in Ironman. b. Put those spots into more qualifying races or put them in age groups that did not get a fair overall allocation of qualifiers las= t year. c. Continue to offer the Passport lottery with reduced spots but only to those that have never done Kona. or, d. Keep the same number of Passport lottery slots, exclude those that did Kona before and give a greater chance for a once in a life= time experience to more triathletes. There are other points I would like to make but this is sufficient to spread the feathers to the wind. If, in fact, this lead flies = I can become just one more guy to take a pull in the pace line with the remaining points. I launch this now in hope that it may be discussed at Kona this year and may reach WTC ears there. Finally! I ask for sensitivity to those who were fortunate enough to win the lottery this year and participate in the experience of = a lifetime. They won in accordance with the rules of entry and chance, regardless of whether they were there before or not. I person= ally would be proud to be on the course with anyone that had the courage to face the challenge. They won their qualifier in a differ= ent manner and have no less of a right to be there. Others will have a different opinion and may express it. Consider the spirit of = the sport before any comments that might diminish a lottery winner’s feeling of participation and equal accomplishment at the finish=  line. Respect on race day should and will be mutual, make it so now. If you are a lottery winner – have a great race and keep in mind it is a chance that lets you show what you’ve got. You win if you g= ive everything you have. I would like to see a different set of lottery rules next year. Offline input to me is fine. Tim Lester tel: 503-388-4203 fax: same, voice first followed by fumbling with the computer.

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Re : Forward seatposts Try calling Suburban Machinery 37127 Ben Hur Ave. Willoughby, OH 44094 Phone – 800-297-1341 They have a great titanium forward post for around $ 125 Good Luck ! Seth Moore — The Tower of Power and Man of the Hour

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how far forward and where do i find one thanks

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Can anyone tell me if profile still makes its forward positioning seatpost ? or recommend a company that does.  QRMAN does QR make one ?. Thanks — Paul Yeung , Ottawa, Canada   SplisH SpLAsh !

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Suburban Machinery, Willoughby, Ohio, makes one.  They can be reached at 1-800-297-1341.

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a great one is CORIMA (french company ) that does a tube seat you can put in both position. it is a carbon tube that looks like a knife since it is very narrow, it is also the lightest available and it exists in 2 diameteres and 3 lenghts…. and it’s great ( I have one:))) Francois PS if you have long upper leg don’t use a forward position you will use the lower leg instead of the upper leg that are more efficient…

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Can anyone tell me if profile still makes its forward positioning seatpost ? or recommend a company that does.  QRMAN does QR make one ?.

We do not.  We do, however, make a forward positioning seat tube. But you have to buy the rest of the tubes it is attached to. Buy a Control Tech and turn it around. QRman

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If you get Triathlete Magazine, flip through the back pages and there is an ad for a forward position seat post. It says "Put Power in Your Position". David K. $cott

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I’m looking for a triathlon bike or some advice. I’m considering things like 26" wheels, advanced seat position, etc. Any thoughts?   Dan

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     I’m currently riding a Gardin Custom Triathlon (Excell 1.4K tubing) and I’m thouroughly impressed by it.  I’ve always ridden standard geometry frames before, then I added a Torque Platform, but it doesn’t compare to the feeling of a true 78-degree seat tube!  The bike is light, super-stiff, fast, and it’s Canadian-made (Mississauga even!)  If you’ve done any triathlons in Canada, you should have seen some of these bikes.  Look into it. Jef Verheyen Student University of Toronto

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