Phew!! Oh, it’s American Fliers. I’ve tried but I can’t even like this movie much less worship it. The scene with Eddie was great. One of my favorite movie clips. Edit out the boring plot, bad acting, and Kevin Costner’s ego and there’s not much left. Only John Tesh music could have made it worse. Rant over, continue on with what you were doing. As for me, I think I’ll watch Repo Man again. Now that’s bad cinema at it’s best. Larry
Ah, Yes! Repo Man…Great Soundtrack! B.Oliver
Yeah, that guy is one of my all time heroes.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d rather watch a bad movie about cycling than anything about auto racing. But then, I liked "You’ve Got Mail" too. Then you have to love that new Chevy truck commercial that refers to "You’ve Got Mail." -Charlie
I don’t remember (I’m old). I guess we all have to watch it again to find out. Ray
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wasn’t the wheel change done by Rae Dawn Chong? On the plus side, if you put your stopwatch on the wheel change effected by Alexandra Paul in the race scene, it only took 8 seconds. That’s good and it doesn’t look like they faked it. And I love Rae Dawn Chong. Always have, always will.
I don’t remember (I’m old). I guess we all have to watch it again to find out.
Stop it, Ray. You’re a young guy – about my age. AARP is pulling you over to their dark side. Before long you’ll decide it’s time to start acting your age. Gotta go – it’s time for Lawrence Welk Larry
I’d rather watch a bad movie about cycling than anything about auto racing. But then, I liked "You’ve Got Mail" too.
Then you have to love that new Chevy truck commercial that refers to "You’ve Got Mail." -Charlie
I’m inclined to agree with much of your comment, but if they made a good movie about cycling, nobody but cyclists would watch it and they wouldn’t make any money.
But he condemned it on non-cycling grounds, like bad acting, bad plot, etc. – just the thing that would guarantee that "nobody but cyclists would watch it and they wouldn’t make any money." And I love Rae Dawn Chong. Always have, always will.
Well, sure. I’d rather watch a bad movie about cycling than anything about auto racing.
No way. Bike crashes don’t involve explosions. But then, I liked "You’ve Got Mail" too.
Now THAT is sad. I have no problem with so called "chick flicks," enjoyed quite a few, but that movie was just awful on any basis.
Wasn’t the wheel change done by Rae Dawn Chong? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On the plus side, if you put your stopwatch on the wheel change effected by Alexandra Paul in the race scene, it only took 8 seconds. That’s good and it doesn’t look like they faked it. And I love Rae Dawn Chong. Always have, always will.
I’m inclined to agree with much of your comment, but if they made a good movie about cycling, nobody but cyclists would watch it and they wouldn’t make any money. (actually they tried to make this a good one but it wasn’t good enough for either audience.
Exactly! I think that’s why KC does so many baseball movies. I remember a triathlon movie with Penny Marshall from back in the ’80s. TV movie, most likely. She played a neurotic, unfit mother who took up triathlon and finally made it to IMH through the lottery. I wonder whatever happened to that one. No sequel. Hmm. And has there ever been a swimming movie? No, "The Swimmer" doesn’t count. Larry
Phew!! Oh, it’s American Fliers. I’ve tried but I can’t even like this movie much less worship it. The scene with Eddie was great. One of my favorite movie clips. Edit out the boring plot, bad acting, and Kevin Costner’s ego and there’s not much left. Only John Tesh music could have made it worse. Rant over, continue on with what you were doing. As for me, I think I’ll watch Repo Man again. Now that’s bad cinema at it’s best. Larry
Phew!! Oh, it’s American Fliers. I’ve tried but I can’t even like this movie much less worship it. The scene with Eddie was great. One of my favorite movie clips. Edit out the boring plot, bad acting, and Kevin Costner’s ego and there’s not much left. Only John Tesh music could have made it worse. Rant over, continue on with what you were doing.
For a minute there, I thought you might go so far as to say it’s *just* another movie.
I’m inclined to agree with much of your comment, but if they made a good movie about cycling, nobody but cyclists would watch it and they wouldn’t make any money. (actually they tried to make this a good one but it wasn’t good enough for either audience. On the plus side, if you put your stopwatch on the wheel change effected by Alexandra Paul in the race scene, it only took 8 seconds. That’s good and it doesn’t look like they faked it. And I love Rae Dawn Chong. Always have, always will. I’d rather watch a bad movie about cycling than anything about auto racing. But then, I liked "You’ve Got Mail" too. Ray
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Phew!! Oh, it’s American Fliers. I’ve tried but I can’t even like this movie much less worship it. The scene with Eddie was great. One of my favorite movie clips. Edit out the boring plot, bad acting, and Kevin Costner’s ego and there’s not much left. Only John Tesh music could have made it worse. Rant over, continue on with what you were doing. As for me, I think I’ll watch Repo Man again. Now that’s bad cinema at it’s best. Larry
If my personal observation is close, the types of males in a random sampling of 100 ages 40-45 ( Kansas origin ’cause that’s where I am) 50 smokers 15 alcoholics 10 very heavy individuals 25 overweight individuals 12 weightlifters (no jogging at all) 10 "runners" (35+miles/wk) 23 "joggers" (<35 miles/wk) 4 bicyclists (serious peddlers 100+ miles/wk) 1 triathlete (crazy people) This is not a "scientific" survey this is a sampling of the population around my area. If you could possibly get this group to participate in a 10k, RunninRich is already better then 50% of base sampling if you look at the other 50% which is a mix of different regimens, There would " Probably " be 24 people in front of RR towards the end of a 10k. Tom " the world is flat ’cause I fell off once "
Top or or two percent? dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually run the 10k and generally fall into the 35th percentile of my age group, meaning about 65% of the males in my age group run faster than me. I am 42. In a feeble attempt to feel better about this I was wondering what percentile I would fall into in a 10k made up of 100 males, 40-45, picked at random from the general population. Any guesses? RunninRich
I usually run the 10k and generally fall into the 35th percentile of my age group, meaning about 65% of the males in my age group run faster than me. I am 42. In a feeble attempt to feel better about this I was wondering what percentile I would fall into in a 10k made up of 100 males, 40-45, picked at random from the general population. Any guesses?
Let’s see it’s ans = (2/5 pi * min on left foot)/(your BMI – eye color) Too much math is bad for your soul. 
— Caveat Lector!
I usually run the 10k and generally fall into the 35th percentile of my age group, meaning about 65% of the males in my age group run faster than me. I am 42. In a feeble attempt to feel better about this I was wondering what percentile I would fall into in a 10k made up of 100 males, 40-45, picked at random from the general population. Any guesses? RunninRich
does anyone know of any good race calendars for triathalons on the internet? thanks Chip
Try the Triathlons page on the Runner’s Web. We have a number of direct links to race sites plus links to race calendars. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site.
Check out "www.theschedule.com". Its the online version of the Runner’s Schedule available at most better running stores. Regards, Matt
does anyone know of any good race calendars for triathalons on the internet? thanks Chip
Breezy Point Triathlon, Norfolk Naval Base, Norfolk, Virginia, June 1997.
This was my first tri after a 5 year break from the sport to finish grad school, do some special projects at work, etc. The swim was absolutely brutal to me that day. The water was so cold, my feet got cold and did not warm up until the end of the run. Glad you finished. Keep it up.
I recently was able to re-establish my access with rst after an unfortunate separation. As I was looking over some of the older articles, I noticed this topic and thought I might add a tale. I really consider myself a lurker in this group, but have occasionally posted a subject (usually asking for advice), so here goes: I never swam, biked, nor ran competitively during my younger days. In fact, of the sports that I did participate in, running was usually some form of punishment for goofing off or showing little zeal. Consequently, I generally hated running for some time and always wondered why would you want to simply run? Sounded boring. Life was cruising along and it eventually took me to medical school and ultimately into residency. It also took me into a residency in neurosurgery. To make a very long story short, for about 3 years I had very little time in my life for anything, sleep and eating included. I finally was able to finish the most brutal of the residency and enter stages where, though it gets a little time constraining at times, I had some extra time on my hands. I knew I was in horrible shape. I’m lean to begin with and probably will never (I hope) look like the "fat-asses" mentioned in several other posts on this subject. However, I realized I felt awful about my physical shape. So… I never thought about triathlons. In fact, I had seen the Ironman on tv, but thought, "Kinda’ crazy if you ask me." But, I started running. It was the simplest means by which to get back in shape. No excuses, just throw on the shoes and go. Somewhere along the line, I bought a road bike, thinking it would be a good diversion from the running both mentally and physically. I also figured swimming would be the best overall workout and started going to the pool regularly. Then it happened. I truly believe that had it not been for the countless nights spent in the hospital, I would have never become so intense on getting into shape. Slowly I began to gain some endurance and started feeling good about myself physically. I was beginning to make a little progress with my speeds, as well. So this crazy idea enters my head one day that since I’m doing the work, why not put them together? I swear that my initial intentions were to just vary the workout. My first triathlon: Breezy Point Triathlon, Norfolk Naval Base, Norfolk, Virginia, June 1997. I won’t make this a race report, but ever since then, I have been obsessed. I still have a significant commitment to my career (two more years of residency), but whenever I can, I’m training. The days which I’m unable to exercise put me into that foul mood with which most readers can understand. Why do I continue? The enjoyment of the training (except headwinds), the purity of individual sport and accomplishment, always looking for something else to buy for my bike? So many factors probably contribute to my continuing, but I’m still shocked that I got into this game to begin with. Sorry that I’ve rambled for so long, I’ve tried to synthesize 1 1/2 years as efficiently as I can. Thanks to all those out there that have been at races or on rst, keeping me interested and motivated. Nathan Simmons —
Hey, i, like all of the other RSTers am sorry that this happened to your wife and we’ll give you support whenever you need it. Triathletes are optmistic people…right? Maybe we could turn this death into a positive thing. (i have this thing with death and thinking about it even though i am only 14 so could we please get this over with as soon as possible? alt.something.death is a more appropriate place). -Phidippidies
Being alive balances tragedy and pleasure in a design only life can understand. Your experience, however tragic, only goes to strengthen and hopefully touch and strengthen the lives of others. It has mine. May things go well for you. John
To Larry, I’m very saddened to here of Heidi’s passing, I wish you and your children strength and love in the time ahead. Tom and Wendie price
In the blink of an eye, she
<<Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area? One of the best Tri shops in the Great Lakes area is Bikesport, which is in Dearborn. Ask the owner, Tom Demerly, your question. You’ll get the answers you need. QRman
The Ann Arbor Triathlon club has weekly timetrials and brick workouts on Thursday nights. We also do an occational open water swim. Members also often get together at odd time for impromtue rides and runs. People come from as far away as Grosse Ile to our workouts. If your interested send me some email. – Doug Douglas P. Drob ! ’Your weaknesses will pull you Space Physics Research Laboratory ! down more than your strengths The University of Michigan ! will pull you up’ 2455 Hayward Ave ! Ann Arbor, MI 48109 ! - The Weakest Link Principle Phone 313-747-3450
The riding group in Dearborn, Mich. is on Wednesday evenings. We start at 6:30 and ride for a little over an hour. The ride is fast! and a tremendouse training session. The ride includes cyclists and triathletes. I am trying to remeber the name of the park we start at and for the life of me the name has slipped my mind. I will post it if anyone is interested when I get the name. Jay
Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area?
I am interested in buying a Polar heart rate monitor and would like to know where I can get the best price. I remember seeing some ads in Triathlon Today magazine awhile ago from a place that had extremely good prices. Unfortunately I don’t have the issue anymore. Thanks. Andy Ross
I am interested in buying a Polar heart rate monitor and would like to know where I can get the best price. I remember seeing some ads in Triathlon Today magazine awhile ago from a place that had extremely good prices. Unfortunately I don’t have the issue anymore. Thanks. Andy Ross
i’ve seen some pretty good deals at steve’s multisport. they even have a web page so you can check out the prices and shop around. hope this helps. http://www.netaxes.com/~steves/ joel falk Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
: I am interested in buying a Polar heart rate monitor and would like : to : know where I can get the best price. I remember seeing some ads in : Triathlon Today magazine awhile ago from a place that had extremely : good : prices. Unfortunately I don’t have the issue anymore. Thanks. : : Andy Ross : i’ve seen some pretty good deals at steve’s multisport. they even have : a web page so you can check out the prices and shop around. hope this : helps. : http://www.netaxes.com/~steves/ I couldn’t get the page at this address, but I found it at: http://www.source.net/steves/index.html : joel falk : Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA —
they have a 90 day price guarantee Bruce Platt
I am interested in buying a Polar heart rate monitor and would like to know where I can get the best price. I remember seeing some ads in Triathlon Today magazine awhile ago from a place that had extremely good prices. Unfortunately I don’t have the issue anymore. Thanks. Andy Ross
I have one Accurex II Night Vision for $190 plus $3 for ship. Allyn Cutts "Be the best you can be every minute of your life"
It seems as though Polar is one of those companies whose prices do not differ that much from store to store unless they are factory refurbished. I would recommend sticking with your LBS which will make warranty issues much easier to deal with. — Ryun Pavlicek Dept of Sociology University of Virginia
i’ve seen some pretty good deals at steve’s multisport. they even have a web page so you can check out the prices and shop around. hope this helps. http://www.netaxes.com/~steves/
Should be: http://www.netaxs.com/~steves/ ^^ no ‘e’ — Sylvan Smyth Victoria, B.C. Canada
As I continue to update my web site, I will be starting to offer technical assistance as well as sales advice. Here’s my question. What would you like to see more info on. bike surveys: Fit tips: Product reviews: Tips for traveling: Local races: Ask Ken Glah questions: These are just some ideas I have in mind. Please give me your imput. Emailme your ideas and look for the new web format starting soon with your technical imput. Thanks, steve P.S. 1 more foot of snow today. UGH. Computrainer is working overtime. My current triathlon is wake, shovel, sleep.
Steve – Re : Multisport survey Might want to post the results of all the testing of bikes and components that went on at Texas A & M wind tunnel extravaganza earlier this month. Seth Moore
does anyone have any info on the clermont half Ironman that is supposed to be on september 24? Anything, like a phone number or something, would be useful. Thanks, Tony — Anthony Edward Berwald Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: …!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt9407b
does anyone have any info on the clermont half Ironman that is supposed to be on september 24? Anything, like a phone number or something, would be useful.
Tony, The phone number is (904)394-1320. You can also e-mail them at (I’m planning my first in September) I have done a number of their shorter distance races. I can tell you that they are superbly managed and well run. I hear the course for the 1/2 IM is quite brutal with lots of hills and heat. Perhaps I’ll see you at the races. Lucy
does anyone have any info on the clermont half Ironman that is supposed to be on september 24? Anything, like a phone number or something, would be useful. Thanks, Tony — Anthony Edward Berwald Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: …!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt9407b
I did the inaugeral one and I can assure you the course is brutal. They had to change the bike course due to traffic control, but I’m sure they’ve kept th "Ferndale Loop" Can you say three/four long 6% climbs? heh, heh. CFT has always done quality events. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: JaxNet BBS (904) 292-4567 does anyone have any info on the clermont half Ironman that is supposed to be on september 24? Anything, like a phone number or something, would be useful. Thanks, Tony — Anthony Edward Berwald Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: …!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt9407b
I did the inaugeral one and I can assure you the course is brutal. They had to change the bike course due to traffic control, but I’m sure they’ve kept th "Ferndale Loop" Can you say three/four long 6% climbs? heh, heh. CFT has always done quality events. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – does anyone have any info on the clermont half Ironman that is supposed to be on september 24? Anything, like a phone number or something, would be useful. Thanks, Tony — Anthony Edward Berwald Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: …!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt9407b I did the inaugeral one and I can assure you the course is brutal. They had to change the bike course due to traffic control, but I’m sure they’ve kept th "Ferndale Loop" Can you say three/four long 6% climbs? heh, heh. CFT has always done quality events.
CFT does a great job – the event is very tough though. Swim is nice, rectangular in a lake. Bike is harsh. VERY HOT! LOTS OF CLIMBING! The most devilish combo is at about 37 miles you hit this long ~6% grade. Then, a few miles later you make a hard left onto "sugarloaf mountain", a really nasty, 42/23, 6-8mph climb, I would guess about .75 miles long. Major quad cramper. Maybe this has changed somewhat with the course change, but it’ll still hurt. The run is inhumanly hot, no shade, period. Lots of aid stations, but also lots of rolling hills. There is a steep 1/4 mile climb at 3 miles and ~ 10 miles that gets you going both up and down. This would actually be a very nice, challenging course, but for me the high heat and humidity make it cruel and unusual punishment. (Have fun!). Todd (5:10:00 in 93 with cramped quads the whole run leading to a 1:56 half marathon! Hell!) — <“`; <“`; <“`; <“`; <“`; <“`; <“`; <“`;<~
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Check with Bike shops in Eugene and Portland. They should know about spring races your club could use the first year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, We’re starting a triathlon club here at the University of Oregon. We would appreciate any suggestions from established clubs. What are some West Coast races, other than Wildflower, with college divisions? What experience have you had securing sponsorship? Are any of you working to get more college level racing? We are still in the planning phase, so any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks, Josiah Jones
Josiah,
From my experience as past president of the OSU (GO BEAVS!!!) tri club, there is a lot to plan. Is there a dept. of rec sports at U of O that handles sports clubs? If so go through this to become an official club, this will give you access to meeting places and at some point maybe some $$. Make sure to encourage beginers too, maybe have a topic for a meeting like "training for your first tri" or "how to set up your mt. bike for a tri". It is these people that make the club tick. Also encourage single sporters past swimmers etc.. Don’t worry about club sponsorship or putting on a race, there is more that enough other things to concentrate on during the clubs first year. At OSU (GO BEAVS!!!) we had a newsletter each meeting that included: officer roster and phone#, membership roster and phone#, a training article, any race results, a race calendar, the time topics and place of the next meeting, and the club workout shedule. The big key is getting publicity, use the events section of the school newspaper, put up some flyers, set up an information table at a high traffic area. School affiliation is also import. at OSU (GO BEAVS!!!),we usually had meetings at the memorial union building, the recsports also gave us lots of $ that covered entry fees, we bought training videos, a couple of trainers, a set of rollers, a wheel case, and some other stuff to check out. Good luck, make sure to deligate or you wont have time to train. Good luck, nice Brooks plug, and GO BEAVS!!! GO BEAVS!!! GO BEAVS!!! GO BEAVS!!! P.S. Qiz what goes "quack, quack, quack, BANG, splat"? Answer: The Ducks on 11/19. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Corey Heringer
I was actively involved in the University of British Columbia Triathlon/Duathlon Club, and have some experience getting sponsorship. The best thing to do is to start advertising your club around campus, and recruit some members, set up a meeting for people interested in helping to run the club. Then, you could actually organize a race for the members and others who want to participate, this is fairly easy to do, especially if you stick with a duathlon at first. The UBC Tri Club actually put on a series of 3 races for members through the school year. We went to local sporting goods stores and manufacturers, and asked them to sponsor our club and the races. They were amazingly willing to give us support. We got prizes for our club races from various running shoe stores, cycling stores, Powerbar distributors, and even Muffin Break gave us food, etc. It helps if you can tell them how big your membership is, what events you have planned, and get banners from your sponsors to put up at the races. We also made t-shirts for the club, and put our sponsors’ logos on it, and sold them – works great for club morale and also encourages sponsors even more. These shirts were quite in demand – I even saw non-members/non-triathletes wearing them! I don’t know if this sponsorship thing would work so well in a smaller city like Eugene, though. Speaking of races, I don’t know if you want to go that far, but UBC (Vancouver, Canada) does have a well-organized, popular tri/duathlon in March with the university category being the largest. The distances are short – 800m swim, 23K bike, 7Krun, but it’s a good early season race. Other things our club did – we rented pool time, which was paid for by the membership fees, and had volunteer coaches do 1 hour (about 3000 yd) workouts 3 times a week. We also had a long bike ride on Saturdays and long runs on Sundays, both with volunteer coaches as well. We also invited hot local racers to give seminars on racing/training techniques and nutrition as well. The swim workouts were key, we all improved drastically by training together. P.S. – I’m stranded in Seattle without my tri club and training partners – does anyone know of a good club, preferably at or near the University of Washington?
Hi, We’re starting a triathlon club here at the University of Oregon. We would appreciate any suggestions from established clubs. What are some West Coast races, other than Wildflower, with college divisions? What experience have you had securing sponsorship? Are any of you working to get more college level racing? We are still in the planning phase, so any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks, Josiah Jones