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.so, to bring some order to rec.running, I’ll return us to the topic we’re here to discuss – running.

Since when have you been posting about running? Yup, hate water

We’ve noticed, so at least use deodorant if you refuse to bathe. the swimming babes are starting to accept me as one of their own.  

I think they accepted you as one of thier own as soon as you showed up in that ‘hot pink’ thong bikini. Now if only I could persuade one (or maybe two?) of them to dry my back…….

Maybe if you shaved it first, but with all that hair it would be a challenge. Bill R.

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     For many months, not long before Alberto Salazar won one of his fast marathons, he had been unable to run because of injuries.  So, he used one of the specially-designed flotation vests for doing running exercise in water.  He went through a long and hard routine every day and says that he not only maintained his cardio-vascular condition, but actually improved it. Steve McDonald

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Roger, I hate to unleash you upon my fellow racers, but perhaps you should start biking and get into triathlon?

I have a ‘minor’ triathlon history, Vincent.   In the early 90’s I competed in events in Scotland and a couple in France but, sad to say, was pretty useless.    Being completely unable to do the crawl is a *major* handicap. The perfect excuse I needed to avoid further humiliation came along in the shape of my kids.  I continued with duathlons a bit longer, but could never overcome the intense nausea I experienced when going from bike to run. Ceased to be fun after a while. See Ted, kids have their uses after all.

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I’m not sure I’d dump the orthotics and orthopaedics, (after all, the studies have done wonders for some people,) but swimming definitely does some good for ya. I’d point out, however, that it’s usually a better idea to separate your training… swim in the morning and run in the evening, or vice versa. Roger, I hate to unleash you upon my fellow racers, but perhaps you should start biking and get into triathlon? Swimming’s low impact, but it’s also a very good workout– which also makes it good crosstraining for injured runners (injury and doctor permitting, of course). It also makes for good upper body training (e.g., kick less, use your arms more… for a better workout [while swimming the crawl] make your hands fists and kick only enough to keep your body balanced). Thanks for getting us back on (and then off) topic again, Roger. –Vincent

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Roger, rumor has it, that your "rudder" frequently scrapes the bottom of the pool, while you’re gazing wishfully, at female pool users.  If you continue to run aground, you’re going to lose your pool privileges. Sincerely, A. Thrope – Maintenance & Grounds Dept.

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….so, to bring some order to rec.running, I’ll return us to the topic we’re here to discuss – running. Those of you with long memories may recall a rash promise I made to do a 50K at 50.   You may be grateful that I haven’t bored you with my training schedules and progress (couldn’t you return the favour?), but there is one little item I feel I should share with you.    And it is, SWIMMING! Yup, hate water though I do, I’ll have to admit that swimming 1000-1500m per day in addition to my run training has definitely reduced the severity of the inevitable muscle pulls that creep into the high mileage/speed training regime that I’m currently enduring.   As I’ve never combined this quantity of swimming with this quantity of running before, it’s all new ground to me. Maybe this mix would only benefit ‘older’ runners, who knows?   But I can say that even a major slip/fall that resulted in some spectacular bruises and leg pulls on Tuesday was ‘fixed’ by Friday, thanks to three sets of 1000m swims each day subsequent to the slide down the hillside. So there you have it.   Chop up the orthotics, cast aside the physiotherapist, pension off your orthopaedic surgeon.   Go swimming, every day you run, after you’ve run.   It’s cheaper, it’s fun, and the swimming babes are starting to accept me as one of their own.    Now if only I could persuade one (or maybe two?) of them to dry my back…….

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I just finished my first duathalon this morning so I’m now an expert.

So where’s the race report????  <g Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman USA, 4 months & Counting

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I just finished my first duathalon this morning so I’m now an expert. So where’s the race report????  <g

<G I was waiting for the times to get on the Web to make sure they got them right (I’m sure that I would never have forgotten to push the split button). OK, it’s coming this evening. Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a new runner about two months ago. I run 2-4 miles five times a week. I started bike riding/training a month ago twice per week. Mileage varies. I have done two races. 1-3 mile, 1-5 mile. I am doing a duathlon next week. 3 mile run/17 mile ride/3 mile run. I have read lots on nutrition and know what What is the best way to get all I need to maintain all I need during the race besides water? Bars, gels, banannas?, etc… Recomend particular brand? Thanks for any advice.

For that distance, an energy drink – one you HAVE used during a bike ride, should be sufficient. I did a similar race this weekend. I decided I’d just use water and one Gu about 1/3 of the way into the bike, since I planned to push it a bit harder than usual to see where I am on the bike training. Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman USA, 4 months & Counting

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Hi, Mike, I am doing a duathlon next week. 3 mile run/17 mile ride/3 mile run. I have read lots on nutrition and know what What is the best way to get all I need to maintain all I need during the race besides water? Bars, gels, banannas?, etc… Recomend particular brand?

I just finished my first duathalon this morning so I’m now an expert. My approach (others may have a different view) is to keep things as simple as possible and still get the job done. I agree with Barry and Vincent that food during the event can have unforeseen consequences unrealted to nutrition. On the other hand, having some sports drink on the bike really helped me a lot. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Layne The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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I’m new to multisport races, too. I’ve been running for a little more than a year, and here’s what I plan to do during my (first) triathlon. -Banana an hour before race time. -Powerbar half an hour before race time. -Coming out of the swim, have a full bottle of Gator-/Powerade to drink over the course of the bike. Have a gel at the beginning of the bike. -Have another gel if I need it at the end of the bike. Generally, I find that consuming bars during an event can get tricky, so I stick to gels during and bars before and after. I’d imagine that having something with electrolytes on a longer race would be beneficial over just water. I’m not sure if it’s worth all those nasty burps over the course of the race, but I get those regardless from my banana. I have no clue how it’s going to work for me, but that’s my battle plan. Good luck with your duathlon. Let us know how it goes. =) –Vincent

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a new runner about two months ago. I run 2-4 miles five times a week. I started bike riding/training a month ago twice per week. Mileage varies. I have done two races. 1-3 mile, 1-5 mile. I am doing a duathlon next week. 3 mile run/17 mile ride/3 mile run. I have read lots on nutrition and know what What is the best way to get all I need to maintain all I need during the race besides water? Bars, gels, banannas?, etc… Recomend particular brand? Thanks for any advice.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a new runner about two months ago. I run 2-4 miles five times a week. I started bike riding/training a month ago twice per week. Mileage varies. I have done two races. 1-3 mile, 1-5 mile. I am doing a duathlon next week. 3 mile run/17 mile ride/3 mile run. I have read lots on nutrition and know what What is the best way to get all I need to maintain all I need during the race besides water? Bars, gels, banannas?, etc… Recomend particular brand?

Over that distance you don’t need to worry about taking in food during the race anyway. You could consider drinking a sports drink instead of water if you particularly want to take in some extra calories, but plain water is probably just as good. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for any advice.

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I am a new runner about two months ago. I run 2-4 miles five times a week. I started bike riding/training a month ago twice per week. Mileage varies. I have done two races. 1-3 mile, 1-5 mile. I am doing a duathlon next week. 3 mile run/17 mile ride/3 mile run. I have read lots on nutrition and know what What is the best way to get all I need to maintain all I need during the race besides water? Bars, gels, banannas?, etc… Recomend particular brand? Thanks for any advice.

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Blast! I was hoping to use the paths this winter (first winter I’m even considering running outdoors). I’ve yet to make phone calls to get details, but my options for indoor running (on poor weather days) so far are: 1)  indoor track at YMCA 2)  treadmill at workplace fitness facility 3)  maybe try running in the malls before they open in the a.m. Other suggestions… anyone? Thanks! Cam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do they salt/sand the Ottawa bike paths in the winter?  This will be my first winter running, and I’m not sure I want to go back to the treadmill (though it does give one an excuse to watch hockey… No. They don’t do anything with the bike path, it gets slippery real quick. Peter

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hi Cam, I am not too sure about those small tracks. The near collision rate seems pretty sometimes. Mind you probably better than slipping and sliding outside. 100m is also kind of short if you are running with any kind of speed. Bruce(watching from the treadmill.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Both the Merivale and Palladium (Corel Centre) Y’s have indoor tracks, but they’re tiny (100m?) and have equipment both inside and outside (meaning that dodging people walking across is common). The one or two times I tried it, I got bored and dizzy (there’s not much straight running).  The Mississauga Y has a nice 200m elevated track… oh well… Do you mean the Mississauga that’s near/part of Toronto? If so, too far to drive to  :-) Any other opinions on indoor tracks? Especially these 100m ones? I’ve never tried one, and really really want a place to run on the days when the streets are ice and the weather is unbearable (for me). I can see how these smaller tracks could be fine for speed work and possibly shorter runs, but as George says here, it must be deadly dull to try running 5K, 10K, or more on them. Any (other) ideas? P.S.  I don’t think that UofO has an indoor track, either.  I had a trial membership at their new facilities back in October, and wasn’t made aware of an indoor track, if there is one. Two universities and a college here in Ottawa, and no indoor tracks??? Agh, what a city….. (well, I really do love it, but this is a drag). Cam

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<snip Any other opinions on indoor tracks? Especially these 100m ones? I’ve never tried one, and really really want a place to run on the days when the streets are ice and the weather is unbearable (for me). I can see how these smaller tracks could be fine for speed work and possibly shorter runs, but as George says here, it must be deadly dull to try running 5K, 10K, or more on them. Any (other) ideas?

As Ken Parker said in an early post, the pathways along both sides of the Rideau Canal are plowed and sanded between the National Arts Centre and Dows Lake throughout the winter. I ran on these paths during and after the ice storm in ‘98. The biggest hazard wasn’t the footing, but the ice-encrusted tree branches hanging three metres lower than usual, ready to give you a whack in the face. Also, once the canal is OFFICIALLY open for skating, you can run on it. Please keep to the sides; you’ll probably want to anyway, as there’s usually a hard-packed layer of snow on either side of the ice surface. Chris "What could be better than a winter’s run alongside the canal" Macknie

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Actually they do plow (and on occasion sand and/or salt) the paths on both sides of the canal. Apart from freezing rain or major thaws followed by a deep freeze the paths are quite runnable. Ken Do they salt/sand the Ottawa bike paths in the winter?  This will be my first winter running, and I’m not sure I want to go back to the treadmill (though it does give one an excuse to watch hockey… No. They don’t do anything with the bike path, it gets slippery real quick. Peter

Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html

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Other suggestions… anyone? Thanks!

I have thought about running around the Carling site after hours. Using all the tunnels between the labs it my be a KM.  I don’t think security will let me measure it with my bicycle though. Peter

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hey I love running and when I can’t I feel horrible. I recently moved to a state where it snows and this really sucks.  But, fortunately I have a gym down the block.  

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Both the Merivale and Palladium (Corel Centre) Y’s have indoor tracks, but they’re tiny (100m?) and have equipment both inside and outside (meaning that dodging people walking across is common). The one or two times I tried it, I got bored and dizzy (there’s not much straight running).  The Mississauga Y has a nice 200m elevated track… oh well…

Do you mean the Mississauga that’s near/part of Toronto? If so, too far to drive to  :-) Any other opinions on indoor tracks? Especially these 100m ones? I’ve never tried one, and really really want a place to run on the days when the streets are ice and the weather is unbearable (for me). I can see how these smaller tracks could be fine for speed work and possibly shorter runs, but as George says here, it must be deadly dull to try running 5K, 10K, or more on them. Any (other) ideas? P.S.  I don’t think that UofO has an indoor track, either.  I had a trial membership at their new facilities back in October, and wasn’t made aware of an indoor track, if there is one.

Two universities and a college here in Ottawa, and no indoor tracks??? Agh, what a city….. (well, I really do love it, but this is a drag). Cam

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It was your post that got me thinking about the track, but I have been told that Carleton U does not have an indoor track.  I know that the Y on Merivale has an indoor track though.

Both the Merivale and Palladium (Corel Centre) Y’s have indoor tracks, but they’re tiny (100m?) and have equipment both inside and outside (meaning that dodging people walking across is common). The one or two times I tried it, I got bored and dizzy (there’s not much straight running).  The Mississauga Y has a nice 200m elevated track… oh well… Do they salt/sand the Ottawa bike paths in the winter?  This will be my first winter running, and I’m not sure I want to go back to the treadmill (though it does give one an excuse to watch hockey… George P.S.  I don’t think that UofO has an indoor track, either.  I had a trial membership at their new facilities back in October, and wasn’t made aware of an indoor track, if there is one. Before you buy.

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Do they salt/sand the Ottawa bike paths in the winter?  This will be my first winter running, and I’m not sure I want to go back to the treadmill (though it does give one an excuse to watch hockey…

No. They don’t do anything with the bike path, it gets slippery real quick. Peter

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It was your post that got me thinking about the track, but I have been told that Carleton U does not have an indoor track.

But they do! A friend let me know recently that he checked it out and will be joining up for a few months this winter. I believe him. Are you sure you didn’t hear someone talking about Ottawa U. or Algonquin college? I know that the Y on Merivale has an indoor track though.  My preference is to keep running outside through the winter.  If the weather is like Sunday I will go and do an extra stint water running.  I try to get at least two 45 minute sessions in every week for cross training purposes.

I’ll stay outdoors as long as I can hack it. I might give this pool running a try sometime…. would be a great way to keep my shoes clean! A lot less laundry, at any rate. Let me know if the OAC has a reasonable casual rate to run indoors.

Will do, John. I did email them and I was told that many runners call them to see about casual rates…. but they don’t offer that sort of thing. The fella who emailed me said he’d offer a short term membership if I called him. Just haven’t gotten around to it. Cam

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<snip that Carleton U does not have an indoor track. But they do! A friend let me know recently that he checked it out and will be joining up for a few months this winter. I believe him. Are you sure you didn’t hear someone talking about Ottawa U. or Algonquin college?

Actually I asked right at the desk at Carleton last night and was told by the staff that there was no indoor track at Carleton.  Now it is quite possible that the student staff just doesn’t know or care.  I’ll check again tomorrow afternoon when I go for my water running and speak to someone else. John

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip that Carleton U does not have an indoor track. But they do! A friend let me know recently that he checked it out and will be joining up for a few months this winter. I believe him. Are you sure you didn’t hear someone talking about Ottawa U. or Algonquin college? Actually I asked right at the desk at Carleton last night and was told by the staff that there was no indoor track at Carleton.  Now it is quite possible that the student staff just doesn’t know or care.  I’ll check again tomorrow afternoon when I go for my water running and speak to someone else. John

John, Interesting. I’ll also check with my source and see if maybe THEY were a bit confused about something. They might have *meant* to say Ottawa U., but I don’t know if they have a track. Cam

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<snip I’ve been hearing about this pool running thing around here. Do you get even stranger looks while doing that than when you go out running in the rain or snow? Not that this *matters*….. just curious.

LOL, actually, depending on what time you go, there are quite a few people water running, they actually designate an area just for water running. While I have a membership, it is inexpensive for one-time use ($3.00 I think) and the work out is excellent.  if you prefer you can of course swim in any of the "slow", "Medium" or "Fast" lanes. The idea of the track at Carleton is not bad either.  I have never checked it out as I prefer to run outside. I’m not familiar with the track, but will go scout it out soon to see if I’d be happy using it during the iciest/ickiest days of this winter. The thing is…. I’ll HAVE to use it. I have no desire to use a treadmill, and I too prefer the great outdoors, but a  backup plan is in order. The Ottawa Athletic Club has an indoor track as well, but I’m sure their "short term" membership (for runners during winter) is exorbitant. I might call just out of curiosity to inquire though.

It was your post that got me thinking about the track, but I have been told that Carleton U does not have an indoor track.  I know that the Y on Merivale has an indoor track though.  My preference is to keep running outside through the winter.  If the weather is like Sunday I will go and do an extra stint water running.  I try to get at least two 45 minute sessions in every week for cross training purposes. Let me know if the OAC has a reasonable casual rate to run indoors. John

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Hi Peter No I wasn’t a runner either during the last ice storm, but I can tell you that my wife and I decided that Sunday was just too scary for running.  I don’t mind the cold or the snow for that matter but risking falling takes me beyond my addiction for running.  I’ll be in the pool at Carleton U in 15 minutes from now, water running for 40 minutes to make up for my missed run. The idea of the track at Carleton is not bad either.  I have never checked it out as I prefer to run outside. John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yuk. Are we the freezing rain capital of the world or what?’ You can’t walk on this stuff, let alone running. I wasn’t a runner during the ice storm, but I would like to hear from anyone who was. Peter

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No I wasn’t a runner either during the last ice storm, but I can tell you that my wife and I decided that Sunday was just too scary for running.  I don’t mind the cold or the snow for that matter but risking falling takes me beyond my addiction for running.  I’ll be in the pool at Carleton U in 15 minutes from now, water running for 40 minutes to make up for my missed

run. I’ve been hearing about this pool running thing around here. Do you get even stranger looks while doing that than when you go out running in the rain or snow? Not that this *matters*….. just curious. The idea of the track at Carleton is not bad either.  I have never checked it out as I prefer to run outside.

I’m not familiar with the track, but will go scout it out soon to see if I’d be happy using it during the iciest/ickiest days of this winter. The thing is…. I’ll HAVE to use it. I have no desire to use a treadmill, and I too prefer the great outdoors, but a  backup plan is in order. The Ottawa Athletic Club has an indoor track as well, but I’m sure their "short term" membership (for runners during winter) is exorbitant. I might call just out of curiosity to inquire though. Cam

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When the roads get slippery, for whatever reason, I change from being a morning runner to a mid-day runner.  I’m fortunate to work at home most days and it’s part of my annual transition to winter – no more runs 45 minutes after getting up and on an empty stomach.  Instead, it’s a carefully picked light breakfast early, a mid-day run, and a big lunch afterwards.  At 1pm or so there’s often enough road to run on where the ice and snow have melted. It’s either that or the treadmill at the gym. I’ve found running in slippery conditions particularly hard on my back – it makes me tense up my lower back muscles not knowing whether or not I’ll get good footing to push off from. -S- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yuk. Are we the freezing rain capital of the world or what?’ You can’t walk on this stuff, let alone running. I wasn’t a runner during the ice storm, but I would like to hear from anyone who was. Peter

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I have recently moved my runs to mid-day, at least on work days, to take advantage of *daylight* (I dislike running in the dark). This gives me a nice break from work, plus I find it energizes me for the rest of the day. As for running on ice, I’m kinda scared of that. This morn, just before work, I drove around the areas that I like to run in just to see what the road conditions are like there. I’ll look outside before lunchbreak to see if I’m still going to go through with it. Otherwise, I’ll be signing up at Carlton Univerity’s gym (track!) sooner than I thought I would. Then I can run whenever I want. Cam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When the roads get slippery, for whatever reason, I change from being a morning runner to a mid-day runner.  I’m fortunate to work at home most days and it’s part of my annual transition to winter – no more runs 45 minutes after getting up and on an empty stomach.  Instead, it’s a carefully picked light breakfast early, a mid-day run, and a big lunch afterwards.  At 1pm or so there’s often enough road to run on where the ice and snow have melted. It’s either that or the treadmill at the gym. I’ve found running in slippery conditions particularly hard on my back – it makes me tense up my lower back muscles not knowing whether or not I’ll get good footing to push off from.

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Yuk. Are we the freezing rain capital of the world or what?’ You can’t walk on this stuff, let alone running. I wasn’t a runner during the ice storm, but I would like to hear from anyone who was. Peter

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I ran with my group in Thornhill this morning.  It was cold and raining, but not freezing rain (yet).  Yes, it was terrible. Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yuk. Are we the freezing rain capital of the world or what?’ You can’t walk on this stuff, let alone running. I wasn’t a runner during the ice storm, but I would like to hear from anyone who was. Peter

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Sorry, I also forgot to post that the top finishers in each age group, and a brief race report are also available on Inside Triathlon’s website. Rance – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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Results will also be posted at the race web-site – lawrencetriathlon.com  and at the active.com web-site.   Z Tom Ziebart – Orlando Regional Sports & Health

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Results were posted this afternoon on our website <www.lawrencetriathlon.com.  Results are listed by age group and also by overall place.  We also listed penalties by race number, as well as splits for those only finishing the swim or the swim and bike.  Thanks for your patience.  Please do not contact Lawrence Triathlon for questions on times though, as we are only posting the results and did not perform the timing and scoring. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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Where on the site are they located?  I can’t seem to find them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Results were posted this afternoon on our website <www.lawrencetriathlon.com.  Results are listed by age group and also by overall place.  We also listed penalties by race number, as well as splits for those only finishing the swim or the swim and bike.  Thanks for your patience.  Please do not contact Lawrence Triathlon for questions on times though, as we are only posting the results and did not perform the timing and scoring. Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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The bad news?  The administrators of the USAT national site appear to be largely computer illiterate.  The good news?  Someone in the southeast region of USAT knows what to do.  Go to www.usat-se.org/usatnat00.htm. Lew Kidder – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where on the site are they located?  I can’t seem to find them. Results were posted this afternoon on our website <www.lawrencetriathlon.com.  Results are listed by age group and also by overall place.  We also listed penalties by race number, as well as splits for those only finishing the swim or the swim and bike.  Thanks for your patience.  Please do not contact Lawrence Triathlon for questions on times though, as we are only posting the results and did not perform the timing and scoring. Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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Results are to be posted on www.usatriathlon.org on Monday (September 11th)  They were being prepared today by the timing company for the event, Lakeshore Athletics, out of Chicago.  Thanks to everyone who raced. Rance McClain Lawrence Triathlon, Inc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know where results from Age Group Nationals are posted? Thanks Kyle

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The Runner’s Web has an extensive index of running and triathlon club web sites. If we have missed your favourite, please submit it to us and we will add it to our index. Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html

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The current listing for the St. Louis Track Club is out of date.  The new URL is http://www.stlouistrackclub.com Please update your listing page and give us a visit. Thank you, Ken Hawkins SLTC Webmaster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Runner’s Web has an extensive index of running and triathlon club web sites. If we have missed your favourite, please submit it to us and we will add it to our index. Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html

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I do triathlons and marathons.  This summer I cut way back on my training to try to help my pregnancy chances.  The problem is that if I don’t run, I feel like hell, and when I don’t get pregnant and I don’t run, I feel homicidal. So, this month I decided to just try my regular routine to see what happens.

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Hi fellow runners/excercise people! I have been running about 4 miles a day, but no races.  However, I do also vary my workout by running some days and doing the health club the next day. My RE told me that you can run during treatment as long as you don’t go overboard. I too HATE that bloat feeling…makes me want to double up on the exercise. But I refrain and simply try to keep to a reasonable 40-50 minute workout, which also does include swimming. Moderation is the key… Nancy

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Hi,                                                                                                                    I am somewhat new to this group, but not to the fertility game!  I am 38 yrs, my DH (is that right?) is 43. We tried on our own for a year with no luck. Started all the testing (HSG, Lap,sperm, etc). Seems everything is OK except for low motility problem.                                                                               Decide to start with IUI.  Did it naturally the 1st cycle, clomid/profasi for cycle 2 and 3.  No luck. Just finished my 1st cycle of follistim/HCG and did the IUI this past Thursday.  Which brings me to my search for fellow runners.  Up to this point I have been able to pretty much maintian my routine, including races on the weekend, up until now.  I was preparing for a triathlon but was told to discontinue by my RE (is that right?) during this cycle of follistim as the ovaries were likely to enlarge do to the super-stimulation.  He was right.  Since the HCG shot I fell like bloat-belly!! And there is pressure in that area–slight discomfort. So, I have been swimming to keep me going.  Anyone else making changes to their routine due to treatment??? I know I will have to make major changes of I am successful and achieve a pregnancy, just looking for kindred spirits!!!!                                          Thanks, Bobbi

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Is there much of a triathlon community in Nashville area? Are there any clubs or groups or races in the surrounding area?

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I’m new to the area and am also looking for a club or training team. There are a few races in and around Nashville.

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This weekend sees the return of the Ontario Duathlon championship. Run-bike-run on a fast flat course Back also is Rob Hogan to get the race in action. Pros include Spenser Smith. There is also  a 5K run, Inline Skate. I have ridden the course and it is 18 miles of wide open boulevards on flat terrain. Sign up is Saturday at the Hilton Hotel Ontario. Ken Burres UltraCOACH

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This weekend sees the return of the Ontario Duathlon championship. Run-bike-run on a fast flat course Back also is Rob Hogan to get the race in action. Pros include Spenser Smith. There is also  a 5K run, Inline Skate. I have ridden the course and it is 18 miles of wide open boulevards on flat terrain. Sign up is Saturday at the Hilton Hotel Ontario. Ken Burres UltraCOACH

Are you talking about the Ontario Duathlon Championships in Ontario CANADA? THAT duathlon Championship race is May 26th in Hamilton Ontario Canada. It is also a run bike run but it’s anything but flat. Up the Niagara Escarpment if I remember correctly. I doubt Spencer would show for our race but would be pleased as punch if he did. I’ll be there to spectate anyway and will let you know if he shows. If anyone is interested in other races in the Ontario CANADA tri  series, call TriSport Promotions in Grimsby Ontario (905)-945-6608. I’m not involved with them at all. They just organize great drafting free races in the Worlds largest triathlon series! TriDork

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It’s Ontario, California (near Los Angeles) Eric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This weekend sees the return of the Ontario Duathlon championship. Run-bike-run on a fast flat course Back also is Rob Hogan to get the race in action. Pros include Spenser Smith. There is also  a 5K run, Inline Skate. I have ridden the course and it is 18 miles of wide open boulevards on flat terrain. Sign up is Saturday at the Hilton Hotel Ontario. Ken Burres UltraCOACH Are you talking about the Ontario Duathlon Championships in Ontario CANADA? THAT duathlon Championship race is May 26th in Hamilton Ontario Canada. It is also a run bike run but it’s anything but flat. Up the Niagara Escarpment if I remember correctly. I doubt Spencer would show for our race but would be pleased as punch if he did. I’ll be there to spectate anyway and will let you know if he shows. If anyone is interested in other races in the Ontario CANADA tri  series, call TriSport Promotions in Grimsby Ontario (905)-945-6608. I’m not involved with them at all. They just organize great drafting free races in the Worlds largest triathlon series! TriDork

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Watch out for Steve Chrapchenski.  He’s been w/us here in Austin, Texas training hard in the Texas Hill Country.    Kick ass Steve!!!

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How come you aren’t racing? If you are going to drive down from Guelph and be in Hamilton anyway you may as well race.  If Trispouse is anything like my wife a race is a race wether you are competing or not. I will be completing in Hamilton and was hoping there would be an RSTer get together sometime after the race.  I don’t know the area very well so I can’t suggest any good meeting places. Any suggestions or ideas? I believe that the course is a 3 x 10 km loop on the bike. I hope that they haven’t managed to make us go up and down the escarpment 3 times. I’m not sure that my legs are up to it yet, with all the cold weather and rain the biking mileage isn’t what it should be.  Since this will be my first race of the season I have no great aspirations and will be happy to see the finish line without any bodily damage.

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Hmmm, do you have course details? I used to live in downtown Hamilton, so I might actually know where you’re talking about. You’ve got me  intrigued (and worried too, because I’ve only just begun  my quad-crushing hill workouts on the bike). I’ll phone the RD and see if I can get a scoop. Glad I did lots of weights this year! -j  

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Yeah, I hear it’s a fast crit-style course on closed city streets. I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes out past the royal Botanical Gardens, on part of the 30k around the bay running route. I think there’s one hill on that route, but nothing to really get out of the saddle for. Could see some speedy times! I’d be interested in meeting you guys after the race. I’ll be staying at the Sheraton near the race site. The convention centre (TZ, etc) is right downtown and a good place to convene. I’ll be somewhere there… Jordan Smith.

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I think it will likely use the same 10km loop they used at the roadie champs in Hamilton last year. 3 times up the escarpment means bye bye to those fast times you were hoping for. I rode part of the ATB course on tues and that damned wooden plank bridge is fun and exciting at speed on a bike. I don’t think the boards are held down with anything and they bounce around like crazy, making a ton of noise. I’m sure it scares the hell out of the fishermen, not to mention the fish! TriDork

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There used to be a triathlete group in Atlanta called Tri-Atlanta.  Anyone know where they have disappeared to???

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) There used to be a triathlete group in Atlanta called Tri-Atlanta.  Anyone know where they have disappeared to???

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Sorry folks, I’ve looked everywhere for a newsgroup devoted to this topic and haven’t found it.  I figured triathletes might be knowledgeable, so forgive my question not being totally pertinent to triathlon training… Yo:

You can’t body build with your time limits. You can increase your strenght most effectively by using isometric exercises such as pull ups, dips, pushups, half squats, lunges etc.

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    Paul Sorry folks, I’ve looked everywhere for a newsgroup devoted     Paul to this topic and haven’t found it.  I figured triathletes     Paul might be knowledgeable, so forgive my question not being     Paul totally pertinent to triathlon training… Try misc.fitness. There’s lots of knowledgeable body-builder types hang around there.     Paul Paul B regards adrian —                     ceci n’est pas une pipex These are possibly the opinions of the person using my uid, but not necessarily those of my employer : Fujitsu Fulcrum Telecomms, Fordrough Lane, Birmingham B9 5FL, England

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Sorry folks, I’ve looked everywhere for a newsgroup devoted to this topic and haven’t found it.  I figured triathletes might be knowledgeable, so forgive my question not being totally pertinent to triathlon training… I’m looking for the two best books on bodybuilding, given I am only working out twice a week for maximum 45 minutes.

[snip snip] suggestions … 1. "Getting Stronger" by Bill Pearl 2. "Brawn" by Stuart McRobert 3. Cheap substitute for (2) would be the "Hardgainer’s FAQ" posting    from misc.fitness 4. Most B-B books at the book store will be "fad body building"    books to attract the "I wanna get BIG" people.  Avoid anything    by Darden.

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Sorry folks, I’ve looked everywhere for a newsgroup devoted to this topic and haven’t found it.  I figured triathletes might be knowledgeable, so forgive my question not being totally pertinent to triathlon training…

Don’t really know about any bodybuilding books but the newsgroup misc.fitness actually spends alot of bandwidth talking about weightlifting and weighttraining. If you don’t get the help you need here I would certainly look at that newsgroup.  For your interest I would look to that newsgroup anyhow. Cheers. Dave.

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Sorry folks, I’ve looked everywhere for a newsgroup devoted to this topic and haven’t found it.  I figured triathletes might be knowledgeable, so forgive my question not being totally pertinent to triathlon training… I’m looking for the two best books on bodybuilding, given I am only working out twice a week for maximum 45 minutes.  Those are my limits, I want the best results in that time constraint.  And I can’t use Nautilus techniques on most exercises because it bothers my neck quite a bit.   This is a bit different from sport training, I know… But if anyone has good ideas on where I can look to find out what workout design would maximize results in these constraints, please be kind enough to let me know! Paul B — idle instinct bet might carry the whole thing off.  But no.  Just another two bucks down the tube.  You bastards."             — Hunter Thompson "Are you listening to fear, or to your heart?"         — Mike Scott

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