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oh yeah…… here we go again There must have been really a lot of head injuries recently, considered the alledged 40% first timers at IMNA races…. trInIc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will ask the optometrist for them.  I hate cleaning mine anyway, and as infrequently as I wear them they might as well be throwaways. My optician was quite insistent that I use disposables when I told him about open water swimming:  once he’d got his head round the fact that I was doing this sport for fun, not as some kind of penance!  He is of the opinion that one simply can’t clean ordinary contacts well enough after a lake swim.  I use them about three times a week for swimming/long run/long cycle.  I really do recommend the Seal mask-I have had big problems getting goggles to fit-funny shaped face, must have been dropped on my head as a baby.

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Oh ok.  That doesn’t sound too complicated.  Just regular-sized swim goggles over your lenses, right?

I have been doing tri’s for about 12 years now, and I have always (in training as well as in racing) wore my contacts and a goggle, without any problems. I always look for the type of goggle with a ‘vacuum’ seal, foam seals almost always have a little leakage. Just look for a ‘vacuum’ seal type goggle that stays on your face when you gently press on the goggles over your eyes, without using the strap. If the goggles come off within seconds, the fit isn’t right and you should try another type, or another brand alltogether. — Gecko (remove my tail in replies) Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee

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SEAL mask and disposable contacts: change your life and you swimming cycling running!

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SEAL mask and disposable contacts: change your life and you swimming

cycling running! Never tried disposable contacts.  I will ask the optometrist for them.  I hate cleaning mine anyway, and as infrequently as I wear them they might as well be throwaways. Sounds like the SEAL mask is a good purchase. PG

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I will ask the optometrist for them.  I hate cleaning mine anyway, and as infrequently as I wear them they might as well be throwaways.

My optician was quite insistent that I use disposables when I told him about open water swimming:  once he’d got his head round the fact that I was doing this sport for fun, not as some kind of penance!  He is of the opinion that one simply can’t clean ordinary contacts well enough after a lake swim.  I use them about three times a week for swimming/long run/long cycle.  I really do recommend the Seal mask-I have had big problems getting goggles to fit-funny shaped face, must have been dropped on my head as a baby.

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You might look at the SEAL Mask. This gives great vision and lots of room for your

eyes. Chris

Thanks for the tip!  I’d probably feel more comfortable in the bigger mask such as the Seal. PG

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PG The Seal mask has an unbelieveable fit. Although I don’t own one, I’ve tried one, and have a friend who did IMUSA with it last year with no complaints. Myself, I did IMC last year with contacts and a speedo goggle … well, I wore a wetsuit, too  :). I lost a lot of sleep debating what I should do, but in the end, I just went with what I ~always~ do in any distance event … contacts! I didn’t even carry my glasses or a spare set, just my lens-case with a bit of saline, and a pair of sunglasses on the bike/run. I never even knew they were in. Good luck! Geoff —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You might look at the SEAL Mask. This gives great vision and lots of room for your eyes. Chris Thanks for the tip!  I’d probably feel more comfortable in the bigger mask such as the Seal. PG

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Any contact lens wearers out there who can offer some advice?  Particularly on the type of goggle that might work best with contacts?

I use Speedo goggles, but you need to find the brand that fits your face.  Knock wood, I’ve have no problems, and have been kicked in the face and knocked the goggles off once, but the contacts stay in.  That said, I always keep a spare set (I wear disposables) in my bike bag. I’ve had more trouble with wind on the bike and sunglasses than I have swimming. clm in sf

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I use Speedo goggles, but you need to find the brand that fits your

face.  Knock wood, I’ve have no problems, and have been kicked in the face and knocked the goggles off once, but the contacts stay in.  That said, I always keep a spare set (I wear disposables) in my bike bag. I’ve had more trouble with wind on the bike and sunglasses than I have swimming. clm in s

Oh ok.  That doesn’t sound too complicated.  Just regular-sized swim goggles over your lenses, right? PG

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You might look at the SEAL Mask. This gives great vision and lots of room for your eyes. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am doing my first sprint triathlon in July.  I usually swim indoors with goggles that have the right diopter to correct my vision, because the optometrist suggested that chlorine isn’t good for soft contacts. For the open water swim, I am considering wearing contacts in the water with a bigger "facemask" type of goggle (which I’ve done before at the beach on vacation and it seems to work out great).  This way I will have my contacts in and can just get on the bike and go without trying to find my glasses. Any contact lens wearers out there who can offer some advice?  Particularly on the type of goggle that might work best with contacts? Thanks for any advice. PG

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I am using Tyr goggles and haven’t really had a problem. I did have one time where they had kind of loosened up and water got in but it didn’t seem to do anything to the contacts. I try to be careful to make sure they feel like they have a good seal before starting my swim. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am doing my first sprint triathlon in July.  I usually swim indoors with goggles that have the right diopter to correct my vision, because the optometrist suggested that chlorine isn’t good for soft contacts. For the open water swim, I am considering wearing contacts in the water with a bigger "facemask" type of goggle (which I’ve done before at the beach on vacation and it seems to work out great).  This way I will have my contacts in and can just get on the bike and go without trying to find my glasses. Any contact lens wearers out there who can offer some advice?  Particularly on the type of goggle that might work best with contacts? Thanks for any advice. PG

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I am doing my first sprint triathlon in July.  I usually swim indoors with goggles that have the right diopter to correct my vision, because the optometrist suggested that chlorine isn’t good for soft contacts. For the open water swim, I am considering wearing contacts in the water with a bigger "facemask" type of goggle (which I’ve done before at the beach on vacation and it seems to work out great).  This way I will have my contacts in and can just get on the bike and go without trying to find my glasses. Any contact lens wearers out there who can offer some advice?  Particularly on the type of goggle that might work best with contacts? Thanks for any advice. PG

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Hi, I’m wondering if someone can direct me to a website that lists when upcoming running or triathlon events are being televised. Many thanks, Charlotte

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I’m wondering if someone can direct me to a website that lists when upcoming running or triathlon events are being televised. Many thanks, Charlotte

Try www.tvgrid.com

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Try www.BIKESonTV.com.  Usually lists tri.s as well as bike races and other bike stuff.

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tvgrid.com is great .  You put in your preferences and they will email you reminders of when the sport is being televised…… Ally whose goals and aspirations lead her to stupidly train for too much stuff entirely!!!

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Tri www.olntv.com

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I competed in my first triathlon last summer, then promptly signed up for three more! I currently have a ford ranger pickup that I use to haul my bike and gear to the race. I learned last summer that was fine, but then I would spend all lunch looking out at the truck and worrying about the bike(s) (sometimes my wife races too!). I’ll be taking delivery of a new F250 Crew Cab with an 8′ bed next month — and this time I am considering putting a cap on the back. Does anyone else use a pickup with a cap to get to and from the races? To me, it seems like an ideal solution — I can put all my gear (and a cooler!) in the back, and not have to worry about it. Then if we stop off somewhere on the way home, as long as the back is locked, I don’t have the worry about the bikes riding away on their own. If you have a pick-up with a cap, I would love to hear from you. I have to choose between a Jeraco or an A.R.E. cap — and come up with the style/configuration. I tend to like the "cab-high" caps, but wonder if I would not have enough space to move around in… I’d certainly appreciate any feedback on (1) using a cap in general (or a better solution), (2) specifics on brands and (3) experiences with style (cab high or extended). (now it’s time to get back to building a base so I can have an even better second season!) Thanks, Michael

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To me, it seems like an ideal solution — I can put all my gear (and a cooler!) in the back, and not have to worry about it. Then if we stop off somewhere on the way home, as long as the back is locked, I don’t have the worry about the bikes riding away on their own.

I have an F-150, standard cab, 8" bed.  Cap is about 4" higher than the cab.  I appreciate the extra height. Pickup caps are not secure.  To begin with, if your tailgate doesn’t lock, all it takes is a hard pull to get inside.  The latches on most cap locks only contact the side of the cap.  A thief can pry one side loose at a time.  You can buy replacement latches that are "L" shaped and latch to the tailgate (which you’ve locked, right?) and the side of the cap.  The third drawback is the quality of the locks.  Almost any key that will fit in one will open it.  That I don’t know how to fix. For the most part, your stuff is as safe as if it was locked in the back seat of a car.  Use similar caution. Someone mentioned being able to remove the cap.  The installers will probably drill holes in the bed and bolt it down if you don’t instruct them otherwise.  If you prefer, you can buy clamps at a camper supply. Good luck, Larry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you have a pick-up with a cap, I would love to hear from you. I have to choose between a Jeraco or an A.R.E. cap — and come up with the style/configuration. I tend to like the "cab-high" caps, but wonder if I would not have enough space to move around in… I’d certainly appreciate any feedback on (1) using a cap in general (or a better solution), (2) specifics on brands and (3) experiences with style (cab high or extended). (now it’s time to get back to building a base so I can have an even better second season!) Thanks, Michael

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I’d certainly appreciate any feedback on (1) using a cap in general (or a better solution), (2) specifics on brands and (3) experiences with style (cab high or extended).

Any kind of cap on a pickup is a good idea. The F250 with a 8′ you mentioned would probably be better with and extended cap. Any reputable dealer should allow you to "try on" a couple models to see which you prefer. I have no specific brands to mention but fibreglass units are usually the best. Just make sure that in the event you need/want to take it off that it is fairly simple.

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Bill, I use the Profile product, and its great, but if you lose the small bands that hold the bottles in place, Profile have issues getting replacements, and the bottles just pop our real easy without them.  That may be different (getting replacements) in the US, but down here in NZ, Profile just aren’t interested.

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I have used the X-lab Flatwing (sits a little farther back) and the Specialized cages that thick rubberband. With any other cage, I would lose bottles, but never with the Specialized. — Steve Dannenbaum

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bill, I use the Profile product, and its great, but if you lose the small bands that hold the bottles in place, Profile have issues getting replacements, and the bottles just pop our real easy without them.  That may be different (getting replacements) in the US, but down here in NZ, Profile just aren’t interested.

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I use the X-Lab, with Specialized Rib Cage’s, it has worked exceptionally well.  I have had problems with the Profile cages breaking over time (partially my fault from pulling out the bottle at an angle)    I was given a set of the new Zipp Carbon cages (I must have been a good boy or something…)  They, so far, have worked very well….but at the price they cost I’d hope so….)   A friend uses the X-lab flatwing with the new(er) style Elite Cage and he swears by that set up

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Bill,       I’ve switched to SPT with velocity cages this season and have been very satisfied with them—no launched bottles and a significant weight savings over the minoura/profile combination i tried last season…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works. Thanks. Bill Shirer

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Is this in lieu of bottle on the frame? Or in addition to. If it is in lieu of the frame, you may want to consider a study by John Cobb that recommends keeping the bottles on the frame for better aerodynamics. In reality, it’s not THAT big a difference, but it’s an interesting tidbit nontheless. http://www.analyticcycling.com/actest/RiderAeroStudy.html#DrinkBottle –stv I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works.

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I have used the Velocity SPT which has launched about a half a dozen water bottles. I have added the plastic profile cages which have helped but recently I have broken out the duct tape. I wrapped two pieces of tape (adhesive side out) around the top opening on each side of the bottle cages. I have ridden over sections that used to send my water bottles flying and now the bottles remain in place. I will be racing in Tampa this weekend which is notorious for launching water bottles (launched two bottles at once last year) you hit the gaps in the concrete. The SPT will be used as a door stop if I lose a bottle this year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works. Thanks. Bill Shirer

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Just a thought – I went to a flat (not one of those huge MTB things) camelback…. I put it one at T1, wear it for the bike, stay aero, and stay hydrated… All the best –

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works. Thanks. Bill Shirer

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I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works. Thanks. Bill Shirer

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I have used a few behind the seat water bottle cages, and they all launch the bottles sooner or later.  Currently I use a minora mount with Cateye plastic cages. Does anyone know what combination works.

Xlab with velocity cages.  I’ve lost 1 bottle in 4 years with this combo, used several different behind the seat carriers prior to that with poor results. Also I’m brutal on bike parts and the Xlab has held up (outlasted a softride), the cages have needed replacing a couple times however.  www.nytro.com Tim buaidh no bas

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I bought a behind the seat cage from John Cobb at Bicycle Sports in Shreveport La for my SoftRide. Fits well and is very light. Around $15 I think. They have a web site with contact info. frank lee

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Try calling Colorado Cyclist from their closeouts on the Trimble.  It mounts to the seat rails per your requests…and Trimble is actually the patent holder for the design (Profile and others pay him royalty…). Tailwinds, Dave David Chen Department of Exercise Science Arizona State University The glass is neither half-empty nor half-full…it is too small.

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Like everyone, I’ve had some problems with behind the seat bottle cages (I ride a Zipp beam bike).  I’ve never lost a bottle, but the biggest problem I had was getting my leg over the bike when mounting it.  Embarrassing, to say the least. My solution has been to use a Camelback Aero pack.  It is light, small, slips on and off easily, and in general seems to be a much better solution. Especially useful is having the drink nozzle right there.  I remember the old days of having to get out of the aero position just to reach the bottles, take a drink, and then fumble around behind me to put the bottles away again. Maybe it’s not "cool" to use a Camelback, big deal.  To put this further in perspective, I do a lot of roadie style riding and racing and almost never use a Camelback, I’m not really that great a fan of having something on my back.  But, for tri’s, it has proven to be more effective. John

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Anyone have a solution for the no-butt-back position problem??

I had the same problem and someone here advised me to gently bend the xlab down a little bit.  It worked great for me.  You have to be careful with the bending, and you don’t want to bend far because you are tilting the bottles away from you. Mark

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Maybe… but the X-Lab has other virtues apart from just holding biddons. It can hold your spare tubulars, your CO2 kit, your rain-jacket (I do anyway) and acts as a fast rack mount point… but wait there’s more… it can also be used to open that beer-bottle after the race… let’s see you do THAT with your Camelback. — MB.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Like everyone, I’ve had some problems with behind the seat bottle cages (I ride a Zipp beam bike).  I’ve never lost a bottle, but the biggest problem I had was getting my leg over the bike when mounting it.  Embarrassing, to say the least. My solution has been to use a Camelback Aero pack.  It is light, small, slips on and off easily, and in general seems to be a much better solution. Especially useful is having the drink nozzle right there.  I remember the old days of having to get out of the aero position just to reach the bottles, take a drink, and then fumble around behind me to put the bottles away again. Maybe it’s not "cool" to use a Camelback, big deal.  To put this further in perspective, I do a lot of roadie style riding and racing and almost never use a Camelback, I’m not really that great a fan of having something on my back.  But, for tri’s, it has proven to be more effective. John

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I have the XLab on my Griffen and have also noted the restrictive movement (can’t move butt back as stated). Anyone have a solution for the no-butt-back position problem?? Lynne

Try the Velocity Bottle cage holder that clamps on to the seatpost.  You can easily move it down so the bottles don’t get in the way of your butt positioning. Marty

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I use the Xlab that you can get from Nytro on my Softride. It is very well constructed, and has several accesories you can get to mount CO2, and spare tires. The only problem is that is sits right up against your but, not allowing you to slide back any on climbs. Mark Rinaldi Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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I got the Profile (on clearance, of course) and it works pretty nicely. The mount itself has three sets of mounting holes that will accept any cage if you don’t like the cages that come with it, and you can put two cages on the outer mounts, or one in the middles (I haven’t tried three, but it might fit.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know of a brand/style of bottle cage mount that will fit behind the seat on a Softride and hold two cages?  I’m looking for a lightweight but sturdy mount that’ll connect to the seat rails – there’s no seat tube to use, for example, the Profile Aqua Rack. Thanks, John John Faith Ft. Washington, MD, USA

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Yes, I have a solution – ditch the XLAB SaddleWing and buy the XLAB Flatwing. It offers much more behind room, and lowers the bottles a bit more as well. It’s built just as bulletproof as the saddlewing (I’m always VERY impressed at the quality of XLAB products), is a little less flashy, but very functional. My butt never backs into it but it did on the Saddlewing. I ride a Softride Powerwing. Mike "PowerSchwing"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have the XLab on my Griffen and have also noted the restrictive movement (can’t move butt back as stated). I also have had the tall bottles flip out ,(due to their top-heaviness) much to the consternation of my Velo Club riders (I usually ride off the back, now). The irony is that I was once really angered by someone else’s bottle flipping out of their seat-mounted bottle cages, and what irked me has come around to haunt me. I have noticed, however, that the smaller bottles DO NOT FLIP OUT. I have seen frozen bottles flip out, so I never freeze mine.  I have never had one of the shorter bottles come out and feel confident in their stability. Anyone have a solution for the no-butt-back position problem?? Lynne

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I have a Powerwing with a rear cage by trimble with profile holders. I use Nike tall water bottles, and have plenty of room to slide back, and I have never had a bottle fall out. I purchased my bike from a guy who bought it at Bicycle Sports in Louisiana. **** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ****

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We have both versions of the X-Lab carriers and the accessories. Just don’t have it on the website yet. You can email or call. Thanks, Diane Tarver http://Tri-Specialties.com 318-625-4214 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know of a brand/style of bottle cage mount that will fit behind the seat on a Softride and hold two cages?  I’m looking for a lightweight but sturdy mount that’ll connect to the seat rails – there’s no seat tube to use, for example, the Profile Aqua Rack. Thanks, John John Faith Ft. Washington, MD, USA

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I got a Minaura rack and Velocity cages. I can feel the tall bottles (the 22 ounce Polars) when I’m climbing a hill, but I’ve never pushed one around or out of the cage. I got the whole deal from Keiths’ Triathlon, I think.

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Anyone know of a brand/style of bottle cage mount that will fit behind the seat on a Softride and hold two cages?  I’m looking for a lightweight but sturdy mount that’ll connect to the seat rails – there’s no seat tube to use, for example, the Profile Aqua Rack. Thanks, John John Faith Ft. Washington, MD, USA

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The XLAB SAddle wing is good – that is what I use on my softride. You can also buy straps to attach spare tire/tube to the Saddle wing. Hope this helps – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know of a brand/style of bottle cage mount that will fit behind the seat on a Softride and hold two cages?  I’m looking for a lightweight but sturdy mount that’ll connect to the seat rails – there’s no seat tube to use, for example, the Profile Aqua Rack. Thanks, John John Faith Ft. Washington, MD, USA

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Anyone know of a brand/style of bottle cage mount that will fit behind the seat on a Softride and hold two cages?  I’m looking for a lightweight but sturdy mount that’ll connect to the seat rails – there’s no seat tube to use, for example, the Profile Aqua Rack.

I had the same question and according to Softride, Nytro sells an "Aero Wingnut" which sells for about $45. You can find it at "www.nytro.com". I still haven’t got around to ordering mine…perhaps you could let me know how you get on… Steve

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I have the XLab on my Griffen and have also noted the restrictive movement (can’t move butt back as stated). I also have had the tall bottles flip out ,(due to their top-heaviness) much to the consternation of my Velo Club riders (I usually ride off the back, now). The irony is that I was once really angered by someone else’s bottle flipping out of their seat-mounted bottle cages, and what irked me has come around to haunt me. I have noticed, however, that the smaller bottles DO NOT FLIP OUT. I have seen frozen bottles flip out, so I never freeze mine.  I have never had one of the shorter bottles come out and feel confident in their stability. Anyone have a solution for the no-butt-back position problem?? Lynne

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I’m going to be using mine for the first time (in a race) also next weekend at Terre Haute.  Common thought from this thread is:  Vaseline – BAD,  PAM or BodyGlide – GOOD.  Frankly though, I really don’t understand what the fuss is all about. I have no trouble at all taking the wetsuit off.  I just peal it off, leaving it inside out, from top to bottom.  It never sticks anywhere. The only trouble I seem to have is getting the zipper started!  Putting it on, however, is another story!  This is where the PAM might come in handy. Even when wet, it takes me a good 15 minutes to get it moved around to where it comfortable and gives me the mobility I need in my arms.  And it’s a two person job getting that zipper up. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey John I just got a new wet suit too. I bought some stuff called Body Glide. It is a sport stick that you rub over your calves and ankles. It also is very good for chaffing which I have used instead of vaseline. A lot cleaner too then vaseline. Good luck Ken

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Mike McClellan says… Putting it on, however, is another story!  This is where the PAM might come in handy. Even when wet, it takes me a good 15 minutes to get it moved around to where it comfortable and gives me the mobility I need in my arms.  And it’s a two person job getting that zipper up. Mike

Two Words.   Plastic Bags. Put your feet in them, get into your wetsuit, remove plastic bags Similar approach for hands if using a steamer. I finds that plastic shopping bags work really well but I’l sure just about ny plastic bag will do. They just have to be big enough to cover your feet. I still get somebody to help me with the zip but thats generally because I keep getting my singlet caught in it. Hope this helps AJ — If swimming is so good for the figure, explain whales Simon Haigh Illawarra Triathlon Club – Australia http://members.xoom.com/ajsimon/index.htm    

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but I know on dry land it is a bear to get off, especially at the ankles….

You’ve already got it – take the suit of as soon as you get out of the water, the wetter it is the easier it will come off. — Joel Sylvester Longest Day ‘98 12:10:33 Edinburgh Triathletes: www.edintri.u-net.com

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It’s not always possible to take a wetsuit off while in the water.  For instance, National City has a climb up a ladder to a dock at the end.  I can’t imagine trying to wrestle with a wetsuit, then. If in shallow water, you could try removing your wetsuit before getting out. What I generally do is wait until I’m on dry land.  As I’m running to transition, I loosen the wetsuit, take down the tether, and run to transition with the thing basically only holding on to my legs. Then, I sit down, yank the wetsuit off, and I’m ready to go. I haven’t found that it takes all that long.  However, if I’d waited until transition to start taking the thing off, it would probably take much, much longer.

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Then, I sit down, yank the wetsuit off, and I’m ready to go.

That was my first technique until I figured out that it’s faster and easier to stand up and "dance" out of it.  Just hold it down with one foot and pull up and out with the other.  It’s really pretty simple. Larry

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Next weekend I will doing my first race where I am using a new wet suit (GR Long John).  I am looking for any hints on how to use it correctly (ie to Pam or not to Pam, method to remove suit, etc).  I will try it before the race, but I know on dry land it is a bear to get off, especially at the ankles…. Thanks for any suggestions. John

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Hey John I just got a new wet suit too. I bought some stuff called Body Glide. It is a sport stick that you rub over your calves and ankles. It also is very good for chaffing which I have used instead of vaseline. A lot cleaner too then vaseline. Good luck Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Next weekend I will doing my first race where I am using a new wet suit (GR Long John).  I am looking for any hints on how to use it correctly (ie to Pam or not to Pam, method to remove suit, etc).  I will try it before the race, but I know on dry land it is a bear to get off, especially at the ankles…. Thanks for any suggestions. John

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Talcum powder applied liberally to the inside of the wetsuit will make it slide right on.  I have been using powder for many years on my diving wetsuits, with no ill effects.   One of them (a  3/8" custom  job made by some Hispanic ladies in an old house in LA) is over 20 years old and still going strong.  I also use it on my tri suit.  I don’t use anything on the outside. Jim

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Pam is just fine.  (Her sister ain’t bad,either) [sorry, couldn't help myself] Seriously, it’s the petroleum based products like Vaseline that you’re supposed to shun. In truth, I Vaselined my wetsuit for years with no ill effects, but that’s before we knew any better. Ray Plotecia Male Amateur, 50-54 Ruxton, MD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

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I also used Vaseline for years on my very first custom made Excel wetsuit. I did not know any better and guess what.   After the suit was "only 9 years" old the nylon lining started to come loose in the knee area.  Must have been the fault of the Vaseline.  Now I only use Pam.  I also learned that Vaseline is a petroleum product and may be a carcinogen that should never be placed near a human body. Ken DaVico – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pam is just fine.  (Her sister ain’t bad,either) [sorry, couldn't help myself] Seriously, it’s the petroleum based products like Vaseline that you’re supposed to shun. In truth, I Vaselined my wetsuit for years with no ill effects, but that’s before we knew any better. Ray Plotecia Male Amateur, 50-54 Ruxton, MD I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

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Been combining baby oil and rubber for years… it even works on my wetsuit. — MB. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique. Hmmm.  Strange.  I’ve been using Pam for years with no ill effects. Both my QRs are still going strong.  Guess they just don’t know any better. — Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips: http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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Mike,  baby oil is just scented mineral oil and should not be used on a wetsuit or a baby for that matter.   It’s carcinogenic.   Pam is just lecithin and good for you even if absorbed through the skin.   It wont harm a wetsuit and makes repairing much easier should it ever become necessary. Silicone can be hard to remove.   I have used Pam for years without any harm to the suit.   It washes off fairly easy with even mild detergents. Ken DaVico – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Been combining baby oil and rubber for years… it even works on my wetsuit. — MB. I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique. Hmmm.  Strange.  I’ve been using Pam for years with no ill effects. Both my QRs are still going strong.  Guess they just don’t know any better. — Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips: http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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 Another thing is that food oils can support the growth of critters that make suits smell bad.

But I wanna have my growth supported . . . Ron ‘poor-swimmer-critter’ Gilcreast

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Silicon works for me (we don’t have Pam over here) Phil Squire IM http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/home.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I use Pam, and spray the heck out of it — especially in the legs and ankles (I have a sleeveless), just before I put it on.  It works great.  But one poster here said that if you begin to strip it off as soon as you get out of the water you don’t need any spray.  Could be.

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I have raced in QR’s since Empfields started making them.  Never have need anything to simplify removal.  Practice is all it takes! Emilio De Soto II Triathlete/President and Designer De Soto Sport Triathlon Clothing Email me for a free catalog

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.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

Whenever I’ve purchased something at the, er . . . dive shop . . . the package says to not use *petroleum*-based products w/ latex. Are you sure that vegetable oils cause damage too? Ron ‘does Trojan make a wetsuit? Wait, . . . don’t answer that . . .’ Gilcreast

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.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique. Whenever I’ve purchased something at the, er . . . dive shop . . . the package says to not use *petroleum*-based products w/ latex. Are you sure that vegetable oils cause damage too? Ron ‘does Trojan make a wetsuit? Wait, . . . don’t answer that . . .’ Gilcreast

I’ve personally seen Mazola break down a latex surgical glove, and before anyone asks it involved a hand getting cut while cooking.  I was told by a polymer scientist in the tire industry, who repairs dive suits (wet and dry) in his spare time, not to use anything on neoprene I wouldn’t use on latex.  He said the results are not as severe, but it will shorten the life.  Another thing is that food oils can support the growth of critters that make suits smell bad.

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Hey guys- No problem using vegetable oil on your wetsuits. It is the "petroleum" based lubricants that you need to keep away from your wetsuits. The "petroleum" based products eventually break down the glues we use to adhere the seams. It makes it nearly impossible to repair a seam that has been penetrated with a "petroleum" based product (i.e. Vaseline). The brand "Pam", other vegetable oil sprays, silicone spray, K-Y Jelly, Body Glide, and etc. will work just fine. I prefer the silicone spray. It’s not quite as messy as a few of the other choices. Cheers- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

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Strange.  I’ve been using Pam for years with no ill effects.  

same here-  same wetsuit for four seasons and only used Pam on it.  It’s alot cheaper than anything at the dive shop and much more convenient.  tastes good too! todddzi

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hmmm.  Strange.  I’ve been using Pam for years with no ill effects.  Both my QRs are still going strong.  Guess they just don’t know any better. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

I recommend the olive oil flavored version of Pam; particularly after carboloading at a pasta feed the night before the race.

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I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. I’m old and feeble and my memory has obviously gone south. Can someone set me straight? Thanks, Cary — Cary Purdy http://members.tripod.com/ccpurdy

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I use Pam, and spray the heck out of it — especially in the legs and ankles (I have a sleeveless), just before I put it on.  It works great.  But one poster here said that if you begin to strip it off as soon as you get out of the water you don’t need any spray.  Could be.

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I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose.

DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

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I thought I read a recommendation to use "spray on" vegetable oil, e.g. Pam, to spray on the outside-bottom of the legs on your wetsuit to help you slip out quicker.  But I also thought I read a recommendation to use silicon for that purpose. DO NOT USE VEGETABLE OR ANY OTHER OIL ON YOUR WETSUIT!!! Use silicone grease or some other non lipid based lubricant.  There are spray on silicone lubes sold at dive shops.  Any kind of oil may damage the neoprene.  Oil and rubber products do not mix.  Just ask anyone at a family planning clinic, dive shop, or erotic boutique.

Hmmm.  Strange.  I’ve been using Pam for years with no ill effects.  Both my QRs are still going strong.  Guess they just don’t know any better. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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wheels? I am using a Specialized floor pump which I have had to replace twice because the top tube that screws into the base has stripped before. While we are at it; what is the best pump to carry? I carry Co2 and a pump – also Specialized. Thanks

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I love the "Joe Blow Pro" by Topeak for my floor pump, but I’m still looking for a bike pump that works. Especially since I have to use a mini pump to fit in the bag on my Softride. Mark Rinaldi Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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I like the Blackburn Airstick.  They fit in the Softride bag, and best of all I can get my 700X20 and 650X20 tires up to about 120 lbs.  It takes a while, but for as often as I do it…. FWIW, on my tri bike I carry CO2 but on my road bike (on which I do much longer rides) I use the aforementioned Airstick. John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I love the "Joe Blow Pro" by Topeak for my floor pump, but I’m still looking for a bike pump that works. Especially since I have to use a mini pump to fit in the bag on my Softride. Mark Rinaldi Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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I love the "Joe Blow Pro" by Topeak for my floor pump, but I’m still looking for a bike pump that works. Especially since I have to use a mini pump to fit in the bag on my Softride.

In my opinion, CO2 inflation is the only way to go on the bike. As far as floor pumps go I have had good success with the Silca line. gil gilliland

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Being a lazy fellow, I paid $15 at Walmart for one of those pumps you plug into your cigarette lighter in your car.  It has a built in lighted pressure meter and goes up to 250 pounds.  The built in meter matches the Zefal meter I have so I believe it is reasonably accurate.  I’ve had it for years.  So I can pump up the tires at home, or better yet, just before the race.  And I don’t even work up a sweat. On the bike, I second those who recommend carrying the CO2 cannisters. Cary — Cary Purdy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wheels? I am using a Specialized floor pump which I have had to replace twice because the top tube that screws into the base has stripped before. While we are at it; what is the best pump to carry? I carry Co2 and a pump – also Specialized. Thanks

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In my opinion, CO2 inflation is the only way to go on the bike. As far as floor pumps go I have had good success with the Silca line.

I’m with you there. I have only flatted once in a tri (fingers crossed) and had my CO2. The big problem for me was the tremendous difficulty I had getting a glued tubular off the rim. After that I only glued them between every other spoke hole. I have used my pump on training rides, a Blackburn full size double shot. It takes more time than I’d want to see go by in a race. When you are by the side of the road in a race and see all those people streaming by you will never again use a pump, much less any of those mini-pumps. Am using my 12 year old Silca floor pump for intitial inflation. Ken

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I love the "Joe Blow Pro" by Topeak for my floor pump, but I’m still looking for a bike pump that works. Especially since I have to use a mini pump to fit in the bag on my Softride. In my opinion, CO2 inflation is the only way to go on the bike. As far as floor pumps go I have had good success with the Silca line. gil gilliland

How does everyone get CO2 to work with valve extenders?  I cannot get the device that came with my CO2 to fit on the valve extenders.

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How does everyone get CO2 to work with valve extenders?  I cannot get the device that came with my CO2 to fit on the valve extenders.

 good question, one that I would like to know an answer to.  I just bought HED deeps and have never used a co2 on them. — Tri Your Hardest!   /O     ___o      o  ~~~~   _ <,_    <|        (*)/ (*)      / Darrin Bartlett Homepage:  www.geocities.com/~djdarrin

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love the "Joe Blow Pro" by Topeak for my floor pump, but I’m still looking for a bike pump that works. Especially since I have to use a mini pump to fit in the bag on my Softride. In my opinion, CO2 inflation is the only way to go on the bike. As far as floor pumps go I have had good success with the Silca line. gil gilliland How does everyone get CO2 to work with valve extenders?  I cannot get the device that came with my CO2 to fit on the valve extenders.

I am not sure why you would have a problem with valve extenders.  It works ever better with valve extenders as the fit is better than with a presta valve.  Depending on the type of inflator you have you can just screw the cap on the inflator in or out to get a good fit. ORN: 9 miles in the very early dark am with 6 x 3:15 hard with 2:00 minutes recovery gil gilliland St. Anthonys Gulf Coast USTS Atlanta IMC

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— snip gil gilliland How does everyone get CO2 to work with valve extenders?  I cannot get the device that came with my CO2 to fit on the valve extenders. I am not sure why you would have a problem with valve extenders.  It works ever better with valve extenders as the fit is better than with a presta valve.  Depending on the type of inflator you have you can just screw the cap on the inflator in or out to get a good fit. gil gilliland

Well, I’m a bit loss… I am assuming the valve extenders you are describing have screw threads.    Not all valve extenders have threaded openings.  In fact, most that I have seen do not.  So, the co2 valve extender use is still a big question. jkmoya

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wheels? I am using a Specialized floor pump which I have had to replace twice because the top tube that screws into the base has stripped before. While we are at it; what is the best pump to carry? I carry Co2 and a pump – also Specialized. Thanks

Good point!  The stress of the pressure and pumping action seems to lead to a short life for pumps that are suppose to push it past 150 lbs.  I had the same problems with specialized and blackburns.  My friends who are hard core biker types seem to like joe blow and silca pumps… but, even they have been known to fail at the top tube to base threading area. So, kudo’s to the walmart electric pump idea… saves on pump useage and (thus) the threads on the top tube base. As for the road pump…eeh gads! I say — go with co2 without valve extenders (unless threaded valve extenders) and stay away from non-prestretched tubulars. For what it’s worth… j k moya

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I am looking/needing to buy a full suit for the Escape From Alcatraz triathlon.  I would like to know what everyone thinks are the best or favorite suits.  Please e-mail me directly with your thoughts.  Thanks in advance. Dave Kother Linden, NJ

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I am looking/needing to buy a full suit for the Escape From Alcatraz triathlon.  I would like to know what everyone thinks are the best or favorite suits.

Dave, ‘Tis hard to beat Quintana Roo for quality, price, reliability, and follow-up service. Good luck. Bob Williams

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Someone decided they didn’t want this posted publicly, and who can blame them!  This is a response I received via email to my post from a couple of weeks ago on good-looking triathletes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seriously if you think Spencer Smith, Karen Smyers and Michellie Jones are good looking you ought to have your head examined, no malice intended they may seem attractive to you but….

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Rodney J. Zamarron) writes: Someone decided they didn’t want this posted publicly, and who can blame them! I can’t believe you have the nerve to reprint something that someone obviously did not want printed in the news group.  I think you are the one who needs his head examined (or something else done to it).                                    _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / Tri-On The only legal draft should come from hops and barley. WEB (Robert Webster) Waukegan, IL

You’re right…I shouldn’t have done it, and won’t do it again. Rod

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Biochem)) writes: IMO, it’s poor netiquette to post something that was sent by private E mail unless the sender agrees.  If the sender wanted it posted, they could have done it themselves. An exception to this rule would be severly abusive E mail that was posted as a warning to others.  I don’t see that in this message. Dave LaPorte Beginning Road Racing Program St. Paul Bicycle Racing Club 612/639-1771 (Home) 612/625-4983 (Work)

Dave: You’re right.  It was an extremely dumb thing of me to do. Rod

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I don’t understand why you would post something that a person sent to you privately.  Where is your integrity?  And, yes, he does have a point….

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IMO, it’s poor netiquette to post something that was sent by private E mail unless the sender agrees.  If the sender wanted it posted, they could have done it themselves. An exception to this rule would be severly abusive E mail that was posted as a warning to others.  I don’t see that in this message. Dave LaPorte Beginning Road Racing Program St. Paul Bicycle Racing Club 612/639-1771 (Home) 612/625-4983 (Work) : Someone decided they didn’t want this posted publicly, and who can : blame them!  This is a response I received via email to my post from a : couple of weeks ago on good-looking triathletes. : Seriously if you think Spencer Smith, Karen Smyers and Michellie : Jones are good looking you ought to have your head examined, no : malice intended they may seem attractive to you but….

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(Rodney J. Zamarron) writes: Someone decided they didn’t want this posted publicly, and who can blame them!

I can’t believe you have the nerve to reprint something that someone obviously did not want printed in the news group.  I think you are the one who needs his head examined (or something else done to it).                                     _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / Tri-On The only legal draft should come from hops and barley. WEB (Robert Webster) Waukegan, IL

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IMO, it’s poor netiquette to post something that was sent by private E mail unless the sender agrees.  If the sender wanted it posted, they could have done it themselves.

Then why repost it as a quotation?  It’s an obnoxious and false (to me) statement that shouldn’t be repeated. Ruth Kazez

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Posting stuff that someone doesn’t want to be seen, unless it’s abuse that’s been unfairly heaped on you, is just palin bad taste. If you resort to that kind of crap, it wouldn’t surprise me if you were the cheese head that stole that guys Spinergy front wheel, or Roxannes bike, or Seans wetsuit. All of you have no morals. You are truly lower than a snakes butt…in a wagon rut. I pity you. Get a clue. TriDork (even I have higher morals than you. yes that’s an insult!)

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I don’t understand why you would post something that a person sent to you privately.  Where is your integrity?  And, yes, he does have a point….

Because I’m stupid.  I shouldn’t have done that, and won’t do anything like that again. Rod

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IMO, it’s poor netiquette to post something that was sent by private E mail unless the sender agrees.  If the sender wanted it posted, they could have done it themselves.

And probably a violation of copyright law no matter what country you live in. Marty Miller Proprietor of The Triathlete’s Web http://w3.one.net/~triweb

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any data regarding qualifying for Hawaii Ironman as a 35-39 or 40-44 male.

It’s extremely competitive.  At a race like Gulf Coast (1/2 iron), you have to finish top 1 or 2 out of 50-100, or about 4:00-4:10.  At the olympic distance (1.5K-40K-10K), probably 2:00. #include "disclaimer.h"                |____|

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Are there other races that have a similar format?  i.e. having to win a place in a previous race (pro races excepted).  I believe that the Zofingen Powerman also requires you to qualify. What about the other Ironmans?  What about the shorter (saner races? Sean.

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I recently did the BAY STATE TRIATHLON and they sent me a fax of the "unofficial" results. I will give you the top 10 in you age group. Some of these people might have waived they qualifying spot, I did not get those results yet. Hope this gives you an ideal. 35-39         name    age     overall finish  time Brooks McQuade  36      24              2:54:27 JIM     MERCHANT 38     25              2:54:33 WAYNE   NICHOLS  39     35              2:57:05 JAMES  MORGAN   36      36              2:57:05 JIM     BOLSTER 38      40              2:58:33 JEFFREY RITCHIE 36      42              2:58:43 IAN PATTIE      38      47              2:59:44 MICHAEL OLICHNEY 35     49              3:00:04 STEVE HARE 37           55              3:01:37 ARNOLD GUERIN 39        56              3:01:55 JEREMIAN FITZGIBBON 37  64              3:02:56 RAYMOND KUSCHE  39      74              3:03:31 40-44 DAVID AHNER     42      45              2:59:23 JOE LEONE       40      46              2:59:32 TOM SHIMMERS    41      54              3:01:31 TOMMY PRESTON   41      82              3:04:49 BILL HAYES      43      84              3:04:54 BRUCE ROBINSON  43      85              3:05:22 FRANCOIS MARTEL 40      87              3:05:39 JAMES CARMAN    42      101             3:08:03

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| | Has anyone looked at the times people did to qualify in those races? | (I guess what I really mean is "what is the slowest time that still | gives you a good shot at qualifying?").  I’m especially interested if | any data regarding qualifying for Hawaii Ironman as a 35-39 or 40-44 male. | | Thanks in advance! | | -Rory Stuart | Rory, every year there’s a new list of the races which offer qualifying spots for Hawaii. The other Ironman races (Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, Germany, and Lanzarote – Canary Islands) are always Ironman Hawaii qualifiers. A bunch (10 or so) of other, shorter, races (predominantly in the States) make make up the remaining qualifying races. It’s these other races that change from year to year. As for the Ironman races, they each offer something like 150 qualifying spots for Hawaii. Each age group gets its share (based on representation) of this pot of 150 spots. If my memory serves me (which it usually doesn’t) correctly, I believe the M35-39 group got about 30 Ironman qualifying spots at last year’s Ironman Canada, and I think a time of just over 11 hours would have claimed the last spot in this group. good luck! Chris — Ontario Telepresence Project, 2670 Queensview Dr., Ottawa, ON, K2B 8K1, CANADA

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<< Apologies in advance for a newby question — I know this is like beginning runners who have not yet even run a decent 10K time but are already asking about qualifying for Boston marathon, but here goes …   I know that to qualify for Hawaii Ironman (as opposed to getting in via lottery, etc…) there are a series of qualifying races, and one has to finish in the top x places in one’s age group in one of these races.  And, given variations in competition in these races, I imagine the times required to be in those x places must vary (considerably?) from race to race as well as from year to year.  But, it would help me to have a *rough* idea of what level of performance I have to aim for in order to qualify. Has anyone looked at the times people did to qualify in those races? (I guess what I really mean is "what is the slowest time that still gives you a good shot at qualifying?").  I’m especially interested if any data regarding qualifying for Hawaii Ironman as a 35-39 or 40-44 male. Thanks in advance! -Rory Stuart

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