I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! 
Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies. http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leezzardzz/album?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+… ph TJ and The Z’s
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies. http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leezzardzz/album?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+… ph TJ and The Z’s
What is there to say except:AWWWWWWWWWWWW! Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/
I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him.
Ooops. You might have an interior decorator or a Broadway director cat. 
I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat.
There are three consecutive pics in which they seem to change position together. So cute! Theresa My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/
SQQQQQUUUUUEAAAAAL!!! Oh how darling are THOSE pictures!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies.
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oh, too funny, TJ! Those sleeping positions are just precious. I’m sure the kitties have found heaven. Jazz & his mama — Irulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies.
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Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. You do have a talent for finding flamboyant boy kitties, don’t you? I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. Yes, DEFINITELY way too cute!!! I love the series of Kelsey with Ziggy. Also the first one of the two of them in the stroller is full of "cute kitty" maneuvers. I wonder if cats like to imitate others’ positions when they sleep. I have often woken up to find Roxy and Smudge on my bed in identical and parallel positions. Doesn’t matter what the position is, one of them apparently likes to copy the other. So maybe they copy the human, too. The one of Kelsey’s arm in the air, with her elbow bent, and the kitten with his upper arm bent, is too funny. Joyce
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies. http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leezzardzz/album?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+… ph TJ and The Z’s
Awww darling – of course I ended up having to look at them all again — Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html
Ohhh, they are so adorable — Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that’s covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! Oh these kitteny rats are sure keeping me busy. They are most demanding for love and tend to get rather jealous when I am giving more love to one or the other. They will "mrrrp, mrrrp" and headbutt until I pay equal attention. Then they just purrrrrrr and dance the "Dance of the Biscuits". Ziggy has shown a flare for liking to be dressed up. He likes to have pretty fabrics and lacey things draped on him. Zoey, she just likes to purr and play with her catnip mouse for hours. I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen. Oh I so some of the pictures of the cat stroller. Do you think picture 1 qualifies.
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I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position.
That is so funny, how they change their positions the same way. Those babies are so cute, and they look so happy to be with you all. Lucky you and lucky kittens! Dusty surely sent Ziggy to you for dressing up! — Marina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki
I wonder if cats like to imitate others’ positions when they sleep. I have often woken up to find Roxy and Smudge on my bed in identical and parallel positions. Doesn’t matter what the position is, one of them apparently likes to copy the other.
Frank and Nikki do that too. I think it’s Nikki who copies Frank’s position. Just last night they looked so funny when they were meatloafing beside each other. Both had their ears a little back. Then Frank suddenly slumped down on his side, and Nikki slumped down on hers and snuggled up against Frank’s tummy. — Marina, Frank and Nikki Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki
I took a series of pictures of my daughter sleeping with Ziggy that are way to cute. Note that they seem to be in the same sleeping position. He is definitely her cat. He loves her so much, follows her everywhere and sleeps with her every night. Zoey the lovebug has attached herself to me and sleeps on my neck. Both show lots of love and trust to all 3 of us but they appear to have picked their slaves accordingly. DH will have to get a puppy to boss around, he wasn’t chosen.
Those pictures were so cute! I didn’t even know that you had gotten kittens – congratulations! The triathalon sounds insane! Isn’t that one of those things where you have to swim for miles, ride a bike for miles, then run a marathon?
Loved the pics, especially those of your daughter with a kitten. Best wishes, — Polonca & Soncek I can’t write much….. so darn busy with workouts and work. My first triathlon is only 4 weeks away. I am ready, I think! <snip
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hi, i just started training for my first triathlon here in hawaii. i am relatively new to the sport. i am thinking of buying a tri-bike for my first race, and a 1999 cannondale multisport 800 caught my eye. it is the caad3 version in purple. has anyone heard about the pros and cons to this bike? i cannot really afford much in the way of equipment, so at $1400 it seems reasonable. thanks. warren
you cant afford much, but $1400 seems reasonable? Wow! I had heard that things cost more in hawaii, but I never thought I would hear that $1400 for a bike was reasonable. Kevin (I still cant get over having spent $1200 for a bike) Mc.
i guess i should have clarified myself first. i meant reasonable because it is a fully built bike with (from what i was told) good parts. yep, living here is pretty expensive. i apologize for sounding rather extravagant. believe me, after shelling out over a grand on a bike, i will be living off of rice and water for a long time to come. what the heck, don’t we all deserve a little gift for ourselves once in a while? =) aloha, warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you cant afford much, but $1400 seems reasonable? Wow! I had heard that things cost more in hawaii, but I never thought I would hear that $1400 for a bike was reasonable. Kevin (I still cant get over having spent $1200 for a bike) Mc.
It is funny to see how many people seem to be fascinated by the Cannondale Multisport. I personnaly thinks it is not worth the price. They have copied the real aero bikes without taking care of the real aspect of aerodynamics (rear wheel cut out…). Just take a look at the time trial bikes used by pros and you will see an aero seat tube with rearwheel cutout or round tube and no aero shape at all. For the price of the cannondale, you can have real tri bikes, nice looking and efficient. The cannondale is not that stiff and light. Olivier hi, i just started training for my first triathlon here in hawaii. i am relatively new to the sport. i am thinking of buying a tri-bike for my first race, and a 1999 cannondale multisport 800 caught my eye. it is the caad3 version in purple. has anyone heard about the pros and cons to this bike? i cannot really afford much in the way of equipment, so at $1400 it seems reasonable. thanks. warren
i just started training for my first triathlon here in hawaii. i am relatively new to the sport. i am thinking of buying a tri-bike for my first race, and a 1999 cannondale multisport 800 caught my eye. it is the caad3 version in purple. has anyone heard about the pros and cons to this bike? i cannot really afford much in the way of equipment, so at $1400 it seems reasonable. thanks.
Warren, The one word of caution I would offer is to make sure you understand what makes a tri bike a tri bike. I would say that the Cannondale MS800 is not a triathlon bike based on the fact that it has a 75deg seat tube angle (vs. 78deg on a "true" tri bike) and a long head tube/high top tube. The effect of this is that it is more difficult to achived a good aero position. The steeper seat tube angle of a tri bike opend up your hip angle (femur-torso) when using the aerobars and the lower top tube/shorter head tube allows you to get your bars lower in order to flatten your back. You may have a hard time finding a "true" tri bike at the US$1400 price point in HI but have a look for the Scott Waimea (US$1095) or the QR Kilo (w/ Al fork for US$1395) or last year’s TeQuilo (as low as US$1349). These bikes all have geometry that will allow you to achieve a better aero position. The other thing to keep in mind is to make sure that the shop you are dealing with can make sure that you not only get a bike that fits but also that you get into a good position on the bike. Good luck, Dan Rishworth Enduro Sport – Your Multi-Sport Pro Shop 1.800.448.4678 http://www.endurosport.com
The run isn’t that bad, its actually 4 miles out and back 3 times. Its an old railway track, so dead flat, converted to a path/cycle track, packed dirt so its lovely to run on. — Joel Sylvester Longest Day ‘98 12:10:33 Me: www.roe.ac.uk/jswww/ Edinburgh Triathletes: www.roe.ac.uk/jswww/edin_tri Is that the Longest Day in the UK when you say IMUK??? Is it a good race? The one thing I don’t like is the run, that stupid 1 mile out and back 13 times business. Chris
You know your WIFE is a triathlete when the last "designer" clothes she purchased had names like "DeSoto", "Sugoi", "Pearl Izumi"…….and when Lava soap to cut chain grease under the fingernails is preferred to manicures. (this isn’t a male-only sport folks) Laura (IMC, ‘97, ‘98 and KONA qualifier) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You make dinner and he says "Mmm what a good mix of proteins!". — Diane Wynne IMUK98 13:30 "You are only limited by your imagination" Is that the Longest Day in the UK when you say IMUK??? Is it a good race? The one thing I don’t like is the run, that stupid 1 mile out and back 13 times business. Chris — Chris Carpenter at the Max-Planck-Insitut fuer Polymerforschung voice: +49 6131 379217 : Quintana Roo, Just Roo it!!! fax: +49 6131 379100 : Saucony, Loyal to the sport www: http://www.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~carpent
….says "No More Traithlon vacations" ….starts "Withholding" …..whines constantly ……lets his body go ……quits running
You go girl! (Gee, we must be married to the same guy), Or when your non-triathlete husband says: ….No more bikes, computrainers, wheels, etc. in the bedroom! ……complains that your bedtime is 9:00 p.m. yet you are up at 5:30 to go swim, run or ride you eye on you – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ….says "No More Traithlon vacations" ….starts "Withholding" …..whines constantly ……lets his body go ……quits running
… she tells you that she kissed a boy on the playground at school today — she had to run him down to catch him !!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ….says "No More Traithlon vacations" ….starts "Withholding" …..whines constantly ……lets his body go ……quits running
You make dinner and he says "Mmm what a good mix of proteins!". — Diane Wynne IMUK98 13:30 "You are only limited by your imagination"
You make dinner and he says "Mmm what a good mix of proteins!". — Diane Wynne IMUK98 13:30 "You are only limited by your imagination"
Is that the Longest Day in the UK when you say IMUK??? Is it a good race? The one thing I don’t like is the run, that stupid 1 mile out and back 13 times business. Chris — Chris Carpenter at the Max-Planck-Insitut fuer Polymerforschung voice: +49 6131 379217 : Quintana Roo, Just Roo it!!! fax: +49 6131 379100 : Saucony, Loyal to the sport www: http://www.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~carpent
Two different purposes, which HRM is best for each? 1. I’d like to begin using an HRM. I love techno-wennie gadgets and would like something with all the features. BUT it must be durable and reliable. 2. I’d like to purchase a HRM for my father for Christmas. He’s not a triathlete. He is having some pulmonary problems. He is not good with gadgets. So, it must work with minimal input from the user. I’m helping him to formulate a training program and an HRM is important. Any recommendations? Thank you.
Russel, In answer to number 1, I’d suggest the Polar Vantage XL and the computer interface. I’ve used one for four years, and have just added the interface in the last three months. I have the older model, which was unchanged for about 6-7 years at least. It’s REALLY built well. One great advantage it has is that you can set it to sample your HR at 5,15,or 60 second intervals automatically. You can then not worry about looking at it all the time, as you can replay the whole session later. With the interface, you can download it to the computer and store/ analyze it to you heart’s content. The big drawback is the price. (The new XL is about $350, and the interface $500!) It is the ultimate in functions and reliability. For number 2, if you want to just have a RAL simple HRM, the Polar Beat just displays the HR, and you don’t even have to turn it on, It automatically turns on when it receives a signal from the cheststrap. I think that Polar make the most reliable HRM’s, adn their customer service has been great in my experience. (Compensation from Polar marketing will glady be accepted!) Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two different purposes, which HRM is best for each? 1. I’d like to begin using an HRM. I love techno-wennie gadgets and would like something with all the features. BUT it must be durable and reliable. 2. I’d like to purchase a HRM for my father for Christmas. He’s not a triathlete. He is having some pulmonary problems. He is not good with gadgets. So, it must work with minimal input from the user. I’m helping him to formulate a training program and an HRM is important. Any recommendations? Thank you.
Dear Triathletes, Here’s some info on our camp. The camp will be held at Vacation Village in Clermont, Florida (15 miles west of Orlando), site of the Great Floridian Triathlon, The Florida Challenge Tri and others. The dates are April 5,6,7, 1996 and May 31, June1,2, 1996. Jeff Cuddeback (MA in Exercise Physiology and Industrial Psychology) is coordinating the training (407-788-7030) so give him a call for any specifics. Jeff is a 35-39 age grouper who is the 1994 U.S. Champ, the 1993 U.S., World, Ironman Champion, and the 1992 Overall U.S. Champ. The camp is aimed at age-groupers who want to improve their times and enjoyment of the sport. The camp is designed to have people share ideas, so everyone benefits. We’ll start the day with a short run, have breakfast, and then start the training. Besides the 25 meter pool, there is a beautiful lake and beach to practice open water training. Alec Rukosuev is a fantastic swimmer ( 1989 Swim Champ of Russia; 1993,94,95 Panama City Half Ironman Winner; 1993 Disney Marathon 2:21 Winner; 1st out of the water Hawaii 1994, 2nd in 1995) and supervising the swimming. We’re negotiating with a USCF bike coach right now; however Jeff’s average speed for Hawaii in 1993 was 23mph so he knows biking also. Jim Ward, the 75+ age group phenom will be coaching also. Jim has 6 World and 12 U.S. Championships under his belt, including 1995 Worlds and 2 Hawaii Ironman wins. The cost is $349 which includes 3 nights lodging and breakfast and lunch each day; we request a $100 deposit to hold a spot, which is refundable up to 1 month before the camp. Hope to see you there. Call 407-884-5008 for any other info. JOLF
Does anyone know how the Essex Hotel in Chicago rates? We couldn’t get into the Hyatt…thank you for your help (Sheila)
Try the Hilton (1-800-hiltons) they have a $95/night rate for Chicago Triathlon participants. Marriott is $139. Tucker Newberry
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Try the Hilton (1-800-hiltons) they have a $95/night rate for Chicago Triathlon participants. Marriott is $139. Tucker Newberry
TORRANCE BEACH CITIES TRIATHALON September 10, 1995 – 7:00 am Torrance Beach, Torrance, California (LA County) For information call the TORRANCE VISITORS BUREAU Tel. 310/792-2343 Fees: $40 Individuals – $100 Teams Payment by check/money order/credit card Open to Individuals and Teams Individual (Men & Women) 12 & under 13-17 18-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50-54 55-59 60-64 65+ Teams Military Fire Law Enforcement Small Business Corporate Open-Men Open-Women Open-Mixed Family TORRANCE BEACH CITIES TRIATHALON September 10, 1995 – 7:00 am Torrance Beach, Torrance, California (LA County) For information call the TORRANCE VISITORS BUREAU Tel. 310/792-2343 Fees: $40 Individuals – $100 Teams Payment by check/money order/credit card Open to Individuals and Teams
writes: Although I can’t add any details, I, too, heard about a Karen
Smyers-Les McDonald match of wits in Wellington …<<< If this legendary match of wits did indeed take place, it wouldn’t be much of a battle. I’d bet big money on Smyers.
The ITU is run by democratic process with a structure where each of
the108 countries involved in triathlon has an equal vote. Most of the decisions that are made between Congresses are made by the Executive Board, again each member with an equal vote on drafting, World Cup sites, equality in prize money, doping control, etc…. The ITU Executive Board is comprised of; Phil Briars (NZ), Sarah Springman (GBR), Phil Coles (IOC member from Australia), Chiharu Igaya (IOC member from Japan), Brian Hinton (AUS), Didier Lehenaff (FRA), Mark Sisson (USA), Les McDonald (CAN) and I probably missed someone.<< Here we go again folks, more smoke blowing from the ITU’s resident rst propaganda minister. Mr. Coles, the IOC (International Olympic Committee) member from
Australia spoke strongly on behalf of the draft-legal format for the Olympic Games. It is my understanding that Mr. McDonald did not speak on the issue at all. She [Karen Smyers] "heard" about it? This "meeting" was the ITU Congress which is the annual meeting for representatives from every country to come together and debate and vote on the direction the sport will take from the International perspective in the coming year. Again 108 countries, 108 votes. Indeed she did. She was invited to speak before the Congress, and she did so most eloquently with a well prepared, well written speech. However, there were a lot of pros there from other countries (and the US) who Karen has never met (a lot of them in the top 10) who did not agree with her views and seriously resented her speaking "for" them. OK SZAG, name them…. one by one. How about your Mr. Briars (Kiwi) telling everyone that his fellow country woman Jenny Rose supported the ITU draft plan when in fact she stated to other athletes afterward that she does not. All credit to Karen though. She used her right to speak, attended the Congress and gave her views.<< Yes she did and according to Karen’s husband, Mc Donald walked out of the room when Karen got up to speak. So much for free speech, democracy and comrade Les. There has been a Congress in conjunction with every World
Championshipsince 1989. Tri Fed elected its delegates over 4 months before the Congress. Every triathlon NGB is notified two years in advance and constantly reminded about the deadlines for submission of resolutions. Again, hardly a "secret" meeting with 108 countries officially invited. In fact, 1/2 day of Tri Feds last board meeting was taken up by debate on the resolutions to Congress. Tri Fed USA was one of the few countries whose leadership voted against the continuation of the drafting experiment at the 11 ITU World Cup races for elite athletes only. Athlete representatives to the ITU are nominated by their countries at the Congress and elected from the floor by all 108 countries.<< Who elected Mark Sisson to represent the USA? And how can you SZAG claim to represent the USA at Tri-Fed? Sisson and yourself represent the elite and that of the ITU. What voice do the people have in this democratic process?
[..Of Karen Smyers' objections to drafting at the ITU Congress ..] Indeed she did. She was invited to speak before the Congress, and she did so most eloquently with a well prepared, well written speech. However, there were a lot of pros there from other countries (and the US) who Karen has never met (a lot of them in the top 10) who did not agree with her views and seriously resented her speaking "for" them. This is the first I’ve heard of this. As there can only be a maximum of 20 top ten athletes (19 if we omit Karen) – of those that I’ve heard, all of them oppose draft legal races. Welchy at one point supported draft legal races, but I’m not sure whether that was a PR thing for the Tooheys Blue series in Oz (some will say anything for a buck), and whether his comment covered the ITU series or even the Olympics. So, please Scott, enlighten us about the top ten who opposed Karen’s view on drafting . Explicitly, who (what kind) were they? Do they have an office in Hong Kong (sorry, an Amex joke)? This is news to me. — Paul Menon, Dept of Computer Science, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 124 Latrobe Street, Melbourne 3001, Victoria, Australia. ph: +61 3 660 3209/2348 ICBM: lat 37^ 50′ long 145^ 0′E fax: +61 3 662 1617 WWW: http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/people/TSG/pnm.html
I heard a rumor that Les MacDonald is adamant about having drafting-legal races in the Olympics. Supposedly Karen Smyers heard about a meeting concerning the Olympics, showed up and gave an impromptu speech stating that most of the pros were against drafting-legal races. Reportedly, Mr. MacDonald was upset about this, as he had not publicized the meeting to the athlete representatives, and collaborated with Tri-Fed to find new athlete representatives that support his views. Again – I caught wind of this through the grapevine and I don’t know how much of this is actually true, though it sounds likely to me. SZAG, any comments? Todd Jensen o AT&T Bell Labs ___^o_ __o <| Naperville, IL _ <_ _
Todd Jensen writes: I caught wind of this through the grapevine and
I don’t know how much of this is actually true, though it sounds likely to me. Although I can’t add any details, I, too, heard about a Karen Smyers-Les McDonald match of wits in Wellington … Katy Williams (Baringo)
Todd Jensen writes:<<< I heard a rumor<<
How refreshing, a rumor about the ITU. that Les MacDonald is adamant about having drafting-legal
races in the Olympics.<< The ITU is run by democratic process with a structure where each of the 108 countries involved in triathlon has an equal vote. Most of the decisions that are made between Congresses are made by the Executive Board, again each member with an equal vote on drafting, World Cup sites, equality in prize money, doping control, etc…. The ITU Executive Board is comprised of; Phil Briars (NZ), Sarah Springman (GBR), Phil Coles (IOC member from Australia), Chiharu Igaya (IOC member from Japan), Brian Hinton (AUS), Didier Lehenaff (FRA), Mark Sisson (USA), Les McDonald (CAN) and I probably missed someone. Mr. Coles, the IOC (International Olympic Committee) member from Australia spoke strongly on behalf of the draft-legal format for the Olympic Games. It is my understanding that Mr. McDonald did not speak on the issue at all. Supposedly Karen Smyers heard about a meeting
concerning the Olympics<< She "heard" about it? This "meeting" was the ITU Congress which is the annual meeting for representatives from every country to come together and debate and vote on the direction the sport will take from the International perspective in the coming year. Again 108 countries, 108 votes. showed up and gave an impromptu speech stating
that most of the pros were against drafting-legal races.<< Indeed she did. She was invited to speak before the Congress, and she did so most eloquently with a well prepared, well written speech. However, there were a lot of pros there from other countries (and the US) who Karen has never met (a lot of them in the top 10) who did not agree with her views and seriously resented her speaking "for" them. All credit to Karen though. She used her right to speak, attended the Congress and gave her views. Reportedly, Mr. McDonald was upset about this, as he had not publicized
the meeting to the athlete representatives<< There has been a Congress in conjunction with every World Championship since 1989. Tri Fed elected its delegates over 4 months before the Congress. Every triathlon NGB is notified two years in advance and constantly reminded about the deadlines for submission of resolutions. Again, hardly a "secret" meeting with 108 countries officially invited. In fact, 1/2 day of Tri Feds last board meeting was taken up by debate on the resolutions to Congress. and collaborated with Tri-Fed to find new
athlete representatives that support his views<<. Tri Fed USA was one of the few countries whose leadership voted against the continuation of the drafting experiment at the 11 ITU World Cup races for elite athletes only. Athlete representatives to the ITU are nominated by their countries at the Congress and elected from the floor by all 108 countries. Scott Zagarino
writes: The amatures did only a 38K bike due to the construction of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame which opens next summer. Hopefully they will have a full 40K bike by then.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anybody have the results of Cleveland? Yep. Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 2 Hamish Carter, New Zealand, 1:48:57 3 Andrew MacMartin, Canada, 1:48:59 4 Scott Molina, Denver, Colorado, 1:49:26 5 Tim Deboom, Denver, Colorado, 1:49:28 6 Andrew Carlson, Boulder, Colorado, 1:50:15 7 Garrett McCarthy, Louisville, Colorado, 1:50:31 8 Wesley Hobsen, Boulder, Colorado, 1:50:45 9 Nate Llerandi, Boulder, Colorado, 1:51:01 10 Alec Rukosuev, Florida, 1:51:06 [snip] Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43
^^^^^^^ What kind of amateur is this? He beat this talented pro field by over a minute? Who is this guy? Lemme guess. He’s 15 and looks like Lance Armstrong.
Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 <snip Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43 The top amateur *bet* all of the pros by more than a minute?!
Whoops, that should be *beat* not *bet*. Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Wow, who is this guy, seriously? Scott Schumaker
Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 <snip Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43
The top amateur bet all of the pros by more than a minute?! Wow, who is this guy, seriously? Scott Schumaker
Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 [snip] Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43 ^^^^^^^ What kind of amateur is this? He beat this talented pro field by over a minute? Who is this guy? Lemme guess. He’s 15 and looks like Lance Armstrong.
The Pro course was 1.5k, 40k, 10k. The amateur course was 1.5k, 38k, 10k. The amateurs raced on a different course than the pros. The amateur distances may have been short. Scott — = __o Scott J. Erdman Allen-Bradley Company = =~~~~~~ / "Just Tri It!" =
(SCHUMAKER SCOTT DAVID) writes: Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 <snip Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43 The top amateur *bet* all of the pros by more than a minute?!
That would be a great thing…a new talent , but it is not to be. The pros and age groups raced on different courses. Pro on a criterium looped course and age groups on the normal Cleveland course. Having watched Brad race in Cleveland, I think it will be a long, long time before an age group athlete beats him. However, on that note, how about Tim DeBoom? He IS an age group athlete and he finished 5th overall. Well, sort of an age group athlete. His contract with DeGeorge Racing is probably better than most pros.
This was perhaps the most competitive race I’ve seen this year in terms of quality and depth of field (both men’s and women’s). NCC was national pro qaulifier for world’s (top 6 pros), Pan-American games qualifier (top 3 Americans), ITU World Cup event, and $40000 prize money + $5000 in primes. The swim was in Lake Erie and had 3 turn buoys. I’ve had trouble with this course in the past. The water was 74 or so so no problems with temperature. I started way to the left to avoid the thrashing. When the gun went off, I made a straight shot for the first turn buoy and found myself alone. Good, no one to fight. In retrospect this was probably a bad move. I swam hard the first 300 m or so and was doing quite well, but the pack seemed to be way over on my right. I didn’t meet up with the pack until the first turn buoy, and by then I was midpack and missed the front guys. I was also feeling sluggish having eaten maybe too much in the morning. My strokerate felt slow and I just couldn’t get it going. I found somebody’s feet for the remainder of the swim and just sat in because I wasn’t about to navigate due to the sun in my face. I finished the swim about 1:10 down on leaders in probably 15th or 20th. Brad Beven won the swim prime. I hit my bike feeling relatively fresh and was upset at my bad swim. Ken Glah exited the transition right ahead of me and he would later drop out on the bike (not sure why). The 40K bike was 16 loops around downtown with a good 1/4 mile hill to contend with. I got going on the bike and in a few laps a group formed with some good riders (Jim Riccetello, Frank Clarke, Mark Bates, Darren Wood, Chuckie V). We were about 90 seconds down on the lead group for a few laps. Nobody could break from this group without getting sucked back up. I imagine the 1st and 2nd group were similar. I was feeling pretty good and kept up easily and did my share of pulling. I knew the race was going to come down to the run for everyone. It’s too bad I had such a bad swim and couldn’t be in one of the front groups. At lap 9 I heard someone’s tire puncture and it happened to be mine. I was about 1 mile from the pitstop where they had extra wheels for cases like mine. I was thoroughly pissed off this being the nationals and me wanting a world’s spot badly. I fell off and rode on the rim for most of the way. I asked urgently for a front 700c wheel at the stop but they weren’t very helpful (they were not supposed to be). I was losing more time and almost decided to stop. I eventually got a wheel and got back on the course (essentially losing a full lap). The leaders in my group (Clarke and Riccetello) after a few more laps caught me again and I knew that when they turned in I would have one lap to go. When they made the turn for the transition I kept going for another lap. When I turned in for the transition I noticed the other guys in my former group were with me. It turned out Clarke and Riccetello had missed a lap. I was already in the transition and figured I would just finish the race and it would be approximately what would have happened with no flat. The run was 4 loops on the same course and I felt ok but was not very focused because I knew I couldn’t go to World’s. I figured the Americans I was running with (Darren Wood and Chuckie V ) were fighting for the last or last few American spots. Chuckie V surged on last lap and left us behind. He got the last World’s spot but I wasn’t in a mood to try and fight for something I couldn’t get in the first place. I ended up 15th. The top 20 guys were within 3-4 minutes of each other. top 5 men 1. Brad Beven 2. Hamish Carter 3. Andrew MacMartin 4. Scott Molina 5. Tim DeBoom 6. Andy Carlson top women 1. Karen Smyers 2. Erin Baker Unfortunately I do not have the times or placings of top 10 or 20. Scott Z, do you have the official results? — HKS WEST, Inc. Phone: (510) 794-5891 Suite 205 3900 Newpark Mall Road Newark, California 94560
National City Corporation Triathlon – [1.5K swim|40K bike|10K run] Cleveland, OH (8/7) – Three races in one morning took place on a warm, sunny day in downtown Cleveland. At 7:00AM the age-groupers started, followed by the male pros at 10:30AM and the female pros at 11:45AM. The start time for the female pros was never figured out until shortly before they started, which left many of them upset as they didn’t know whether to hang out or warm up. This race was the U.S. Pro Nationals and the top 6 male and female pro Americans would receive the qualifying spots for the World Champion- ships in New Zealand later this year. The top 3 male and females would also qualify for the Pan-American games next year. It was also a stop on the ITU World Cup, as is the race next week in Wilkes-Barre, which attracted a lot of foreign talent. The course was different for the age-groupers and pros. The same swim course was used for both age-groupers and professionals. The swim course was the same for the age-groupers and pros, a deep water start off the end of the East 9th Avenue pier, with a rectangular course that went out to the breakwater wall before heading back into the bay and finished with a climb up a set of pool ladders. At 7:00AM, the sky was sunny, the air around 60F, the water around 74F, and the wind was out of the south. The age-groupers biked a 38K loop that paralleled Lake Erie for about 5M before turning south and uphill to a turn- around in Shaker Heights. The way in mostly traced back the way out, although different roads were sometimes used. The road surface for most of the course was fairly rough, filled with potholes, manhole covers, and uneven surfaces. The run course was a 6M loop through downtown Cleveland that was fairly flat except for a couple of long hills near the beginning and finish. Ironically, one of the hilliest sections was in a place they call the Flats. The pros would bike and run on a 1.5M loop that had a fairly good uphill and downhill section. Sixteen laps of cycling and four of running. Since part of this loop was also used by the age-group course, the pros had to wait for the last people to finish before starting. There were also $500 primes for the fastest swim, first biker to 7 laps, and first runner to 2 laps. I didn’t see too much of the men’s race, as I was busy watching my wife Lauren. About 45-50 male pros started and many of them came out of the water together. Midway thourgh the bike section, a pack of four riders, including Brad Beven and Nate Llerandi, led the race. Two other packs of 10-12 riders followed them with about 0:30-1:30 time differentials. A few riders rode alone, but most were in one of the packs. Drafting was an obvious problem, but not too much was done. Nate Llerandi and Dave Pier were give a stop-and-go penalty, but this didn’t seem to affect them too much. Ken Glah shouted some profanities and dropped out frustrated. Eventually the lead and second groups joined up, and the race looked like the Revco/Cleveland Criterium held every year. It would obviously come down to the 10K run, which Brad Beven ultimately won. The top ten amatuers from last year’s race at Leon’s were allowed to race and qualify for the Pan-Am spots (but not the Worlds), which Tim Deboom succeeded in doing. The women’s race was much cleaner as far as drafting, probably due to the bigger differences in cycling speeds and the smaller number of female pros (22). Rina Bradshaw was first out of the water, followed one to two minutes later by many of the others. Lauren was about 12th out, about 2:30 behind Rina. Erin Baker took over the lead on the bike fairly quickly, shadowed by Gail Laurence. Karen Smyers was about 30 seconds back, but started losing ground about halfway. Lauren and Donna Peters were going back and forth about 1:30 behind Erin until the fifth lap, when Lauren surged and got a gap on Donna. The top women were averaging about 24MPH for the course. Going into the run, the qualifying spots stilled looked to be up for grabs. Erin Baker led out of the transition, followed by Gail Laurence, Rina Bradshaw, Kelly Kwiatowski (sponsored by Harley- Davidson), Karen Smyers, Lauren Jensen, in that order. Erin Baker looked strong and it seemed like she had the race wrapped up until one lap to go. Karen Smyers must have saved something for the run, because she closed the gap and was only about 20 seconds behind and gaining with 1.5M to go. She looked very happy as she ran across the finish line in first place. Erin Baker seemed pleased with her position a few seconds later. Lauren had a great race and finished in 12th (I think), around 2:08, just ahead of Marci Cantu. For me, I started in the first wave of age-groupers, which consisted of all men 29 and under. I had a decent swim and entered the transition area around 24:15. Later I heard the top swimmer and eventual winner spent only about 17 minutes in the water. As I was approaching my bike, I heard the announcer say that the leaders from the second wave that had started five minutes behind us were heading in. I climbed on my bike and headed up the hill leading out of the transition in my small chainring. I didn’t feel too good on the bike, but managed to hold off the leaders from the second wave and was constantly passing people, including a small group of guys who were obviously sucking wheel. My bike split wasn’t that great for me – I averaged about 25MPH. I don’t think I went hard enough up the hills and was too busy avoiding road hazards as I maintained 30-35MPH going downhill. The bike racks were still fairly empty as I departed for the run around 1:22 on the race clock. As soon as I left the transition, I could feel the tendonitis in my right foot flaring up, so I decided to jog the 10K and just finish this race. I dropped out of Leon’s one mile into the run last week and didn’t want to have to again. About a half mile into the run, a volunteer told me I was in fifth place, with about six guys 100 yards behind me. I figured they would all come running past me shortly, especially as I was only running 7-minute miles and favoring my right foot. I was suprised it took the leaders from the second wave until the 4.5M point to catch me. I eventually struggled to the finish line, with a massive blister on my right foot to compound the already throbbing and inflamed tendon. As I crossed the line, the announcer mentioned that I must of had one of the fastest bike splits for the day, and I was suprised anyone noticed. My time of 2:05:40 put me 24th overall and 7th in the 25-29 men. The winner did an incredible time of 1:47:43, but only four others managed to break the 2:00 barrier. The medical tent was bored and went overboard on my blister, as I had at least six people helping wrap my big toe in enough moleskin and tape for an entire foot. 8^)
Anybody have the results of Cleveland?
Anybody have the results of Cleveland?
Yep. Pro MEN: 1 Brad Beven, Australia, 1:48:51 2 Hamish Carter, New Zealand, 1:48:57 3 Andrew MacMartin, Canada, 1:48:59 4 Scott Molina, Denver, Colorado, 1:49:26 5 Tim Deboom, Denver, Colorado, 1:49:28 6 Andrew Carlson, Boulder, Colorado, 1:50:15 7 Garrett McCarthy, Louisville, Colorado, 1:50:31 8 Wesley Hobsen, Boulder, Colorado, 1:50:45 9 Nate Llerandi, Boulder, Colorado, 1:51:01 10 Alec Rukosuev, Florida, 1:51:06 Pro WOMEN: 1 Karen Smyers, Lincoln, Mass., 2:03:03 2 Erin Baker, Boulder, Colorado, 2:03:19 3 Rina Bradshaw, Australia, 2:04:06 4 Martha Sorensen, Mass., 2:04:28 5 Gail Laurence, Denver, 2:04:57 6 Sabine Westhoff, Germany, 2:05:37 7 Kelley Kwiatkowski, Florida, 2:06:08 8 Kati Webb, Florida, 2:06:14 9 Donna Peters, Washington, 2:07:00 10 Jill Westernra, Boulder, Colorado, 2:07:15 Amateurs: MEN 1st: Victor Perni, Memphis, Tenn. 1:47:43 WOMEN 1st: Kim Weaver, Avon Lake, Ohio, 2:10:05 (I know Kim! My brush with greatness!) If you are looking for the results of a specific pro, let me know and I’ll tell you. Our Internet triathlete Andrew Kelsey of Danville, CA., finished in 15th place with a time of 1:52:00. Sincerely, Scott — = __o Scott J. Erdman Allen-Bradley Company = =~~~~~~ / "Just Tri It!" =
Ultra Coach, which allows you to enter information about swimming, biking and running workouts individually, including distance, reps,time, heart rate evironmental conditions, comments, etc., and which allows you to graph training trends by week, month or quarter, cost me about $39. I have the 1990 edition, and Idon’t know if it has been uptdated. Distribution through Flite Control Corp. 10740 Kenney St. Suite 402, Santee, Ca 92071 (619) 258-3905 (this info from the first page of the manual – I don’t know if it is still accurate. It’s a terrific program (it also will display a monthly calendar that shows what workouts you’ve done each day, so you can see "at a glance" how you’re doing. It also calculates your running or biking pace for you based on the info you put in about distance and time.
Does anyone have a favorite training log PC software? I’m looking for one. Please indicate address and phone. Thanks. * Origin: Dark Knight’s Table (1:282/31)
I use one called Ultra Coach, that is specifically designed for triathlete training. I’ll follow up with another Email when I get the address and other info.
Carl, I use WinTrainer, a windows log program. I will keep track of all kinds of work outs and other data ie; weather rest heat rate, but not time in target, not in target, ect. I bought it thru Road Runner Sports. Thom Peters Swim Bike Run Richland MI Triathlons Forever 0 1994 Goals , __0 ^/ 21:5X 5K ,— ____0 _ <, /| Seahorse Tri 1:4X:XX ,— <, (*)/ (*) / ^/ Coldwater Tri 48:XX