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Hello all, I did my first sprint triathlon at the end of the season, and really enjoyed both the race and the training for the race. Now I’m working on winter training schedules, race schedules, and playing around with my first hrm. I’m planning on doing several sprint tris and 5-8k road races next year, so I’m wondering how/whether LSD workouts should be a part of my training. There doesn’t seem to be as much written for those focussing on short distance races as there is for International and Ironman races. Thanks in advance, Maeve

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so I’m wondering how/whether LSD workouts should be a part of my training. There doesn’t seem to be as much written for those focussing on short distance races as there is for International and Ironman races.

Well i wouldnt suggest too much lsd for a sprint race. You’ll want to do some overdistance such as if the race has a  5K run (3.1mi) you’ll want to be doing at least a 5-7 mile run for your "lsd". Depending on how well you want to do and fast you want to go. Its recommended that a 10K’er do at least 13 miles for a long run. So half of that would be around 6 miles or twice that of your race. For pace, you’ll want to do around a minute slower than your desired race pace during your "long" run. And during that long run as you get closer to race day like a a month out, you should be doing a few pickups for speed or finish the last mile at or a little below your desired race pace. I think a lot of this also has to do with your goals for your race season (finish, place in your age group, 5th overall etc) If all you wanna do is have "fun" then define what it would take to be a fun race or have fun during a race. Being a sport psych major in college a goal like having "fun" isnt very motivating (ie its not a goal that will get you off the couch)  but thats a different topic. Let your goals dictate your training. More serious/difficult goals means your going to have to do more serious/difficult workouts. hope i helped some j

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 Is there a triathlon in St. John in the early fall? if so could someone please email me some info?  Thank You:-) Steve A

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Is this the St. John Triathlon you are looking for: http://www.stjohntradewindsnews.com/html/triathalon.html Ken Is there a triathlon in St. John in the early fall? if so could someone please email me some info? Thank You:-) Steve A

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Yes,  Do you know if they will have it again this year? steve a

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Here in the Tri-cities (2 hours away) we use sleeveless longjohns in the columbia river. Also there is a great half ironman in spokane in August, in a warm lake. Again sleeveless is Ok. Some guys use full suits and like them fine too. Just got to try both if you have access.  Jim

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I moved to Spokane last August and plan to race this season.  What are the lake temps like for the Northwest series of races?  Do you recommend a fullsuit with sleeves or will a sleeveless but full legs do? Thanks in advance! johnwalt

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[This followup was posted to rec.sport.triathlon and a copy was sent to the cited author.] says… I moved to Spokane last August and plan to race this season.  What are the lake temps like for the Northwest series of races?  Do you recommend a fullsuit with sleeves or will a sleeveless but full legs do? Thanks in advance! johnwalt

If you race in early or late season, you will like a full suit. If you are a midsummer only racer (or genetically related to polar bears) you will like a farmer john. I live in Seattle, and have had a full suit for about 5 years.  I have been in races with guys in farmer johns that got frozen where I was fine.   In warmer water, I swim without a suit, but when they are legal (which is at every Washington race I have ever done) I will wear my full suit. Rob — Rob Blomquist Seattle, WA

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Yikes! You just gave the poor guy 6/10ths extra to run! 10k=6.2miles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 10K is about 6.8 miles. How many laps? is it a 1/4 mile track?  27.2 laps if it is 1/8 mile then  54.4 laps How many miles does a 10K equal. Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K Thanks in Advance, -Frank

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Actually 10K is 6.21 miles and if the track is metric it is 25 laps.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 10K is about 6.8 miles. How many laps? is it a 1/4 mile track?  27.2 laps if it is 1/8 mile then  54.4 laps How many miles does a 10K equal. Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K Thanks in Advance, -Frank

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Dear Frank, "How many miles does a 10K equal." 10k = 6.214 Miles, "Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K" I’m not sure what a standard High school track is any more, but if it’s a 1/4 mile track then 10k would be 24.856 laps, If it’s a 400 meter track 10 k would be 25 laps hope this helps, Steve "The Triathalator" Adams Looking for a triathlon? http://www.triathalator.com

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I think, this is a LAP-SUS ! trInIc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 10K is about 6.8 miles. How many laps? is it a 1/4 mile track?  27.2 laps if it is 1/8 mile then  54.4 laps How many miles does a 10K equal. Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K Thanks in Advance, -Frank

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How many miles does a 10K equal. Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K Thanks in Advance, -Frank

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10K is about 6.8 miles. How many laps? is it a 1/4 mile track?  27.2 laps if it is 1/8 mile then  54.4 laps

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How many miles does a 10K equal. Also, how many times around a standard high school track equals a 10K Thanks in Advance, -Frank

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Hi.  Can anyone point me in the direction of more information about lodging at the Half Vineman?  I’ve already contacted Sports America Tours (the arrangement people) and have the list, but I was wondering more about the hotels on the list.  Any recommendations or any places to avoid?  I was particularly curious about the Sandman and Best Western Garden Inn since they are in the price range I’m probably considering? Any comments on quality, distance, convenience, etc.?  Thanks for all your help in advance. Regards, Kendall Wu

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I’ve done the race the last 3 years and stayed in different places each time. The Garden Inn is spartan but in a convienient location, clean, and quiet. I’ve been placed by Sports America each year and have been happy with the lodging. You are smart by booking early, since the close rooms go quickly. Good luck, Scott Watters TRI XXL CA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi.  Can anyone point me in the direction of more information about lodging at the Half Vineman?  I’ve already contacted Sports America Tours (the arrangement people) and have the list, but I was wondering more about the hotels on the list.  Any recommendations or any places to avoid?  I was particularly curious about the Sandman and Best Western Garden Inn since they are in the price range I’m probably considering? Any comments on quality, distance, convenience, etc.?  Thanks for all your help in advance. Regards, Kendall Wu

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Hi.  Can anyone point me in the direction of more information about lodging at the Half Vineman?  I’ve already contacted Sports America Tours (the arrangement people) and have the list, but I was wondering more about the hotels on the list.  Any recommendations or any places to avoid?  I was particularly curious about the Sandman and Best Western Garden Inn since they are in the price range I’m probably considering? Any comments on quality, distance, convenience, etc.?  Thanks for all your help in advance.

The Sandman is quite reasonable.  Nothing fancy, but clean and decent. Good location in terms of proximity to shopping areas, and right off the freeway for a very quick trip to the race site.  I stayed there in ‘99 and plan on returning this year. Don’t know anything about the Best Western.   Used to stay at the Hilton, and while it’s nice, I really can’t justify the price. TriBaby                                     _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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On the advice of Steve Blum, IM Lanzarote survivor and general good guy, I am booked into the Motel 6 in Santa Rosa. gordo

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Does anyone have the contact information for any of these places? Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Sandman is quite reasonable.  Nothing fancy, but clean and decent. Good location in terms of proximity to shopping areas, and right off the freeway for a very quick trip to the race site.  I stayed there in ‘99 and plan on returning this year. Don’t know anything about the Best Western. Used to stay at the Hilton, and while it’s nice, I really can’t justify the price. TriBaby                                     _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

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There are plenty of places that rent bikes, but you may want to call ahead to pre-arrange; I doubt they’d be open early enough on race morning. You may end up with a one-gear, coaster brake bike, if that’s okay for you.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

i used to go to this race every year, it was my favorite.  i don’t go any longer, as the catalina island folks, i.e., the city of avalon the chamber of commerce, essentially took the race from the founder & race director, bill fulton (who also produces the LA triathlon series bonelli park races, and others). i was deeply offended by this.  there is alot more i could say, as i have been involved since 1992 in various processes that would help mediate a solution. as producer of the Bally TF USTS series races i have the opportunity to deal with communities around the US, and IMHO catalina is stridently the most egregious in their wanton disregard for those who come from outside their community with a plan– eagerly accepted by catalina– only to somehow end up with ownership of the property once it has become successful. the triathlon is the second time it has happened, it occurred to hans albrecht and the catalina marathon as well. therefore, i wouldn’t sponsor, enter, watch, or be involved in this race if it was the last race on earth.  i likewise have a low regard for the various parties who’ve produced this event on a contract basis for catalina, and i wish such parties would have more spine and honor. qrman

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 I sometimes have these same headaches after sex. (not tonight, it GIVES me a headache!). No kidding. Any others suffer the same type of cause/headache? What might be the reason? Don’t tell me to stop, because both of the things that cause them are too much darned fun!

Don’t be sory for posting here, a headache is a headache and even though I suffer from migraine, I still sometimes get non migraine headaches that are REALLY painful. I used to play a lot of sport, I played netball every eek (like basketball in the US) and I ALWAYS got a headache after playing. I asked my GP about this and he said that exercise induced headaches are very common and that sex in particular can bring on a blinding headache – did you know that your BP is at it’s highest at the time of orgasm!! (another bit of useless information). Unless you have other symptoms, I wouldn’t worry too much about this as it is quite a common problem. However if you experience dizziness, breathlessness etc. it may be worth getting your BP checked. If it feels good – do it. Anne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Hi all, kind of sorry to post here, my headaches aren’t anything like the incapicitating migraines my mom has, but alt.support.headache is totally empty. A discussion has surfaced on rec.sport.triathlon about severe headaches brought on after the end of an endurance race like a triathlon. I too experience them occasionally. After a 3 or 4 hour endurance race I feel well (but tired), however an hour or two after, usually on the way home, I will experience a sudden onset, severe, stabbing headache, that sometimes goes away in a few hours, sometimes not until the next morning. Not always, but sometimes. I sometimes have these same headaches after sex. (not tonight, it GIVES me a headache!). No kidding.

Headaches can be a result of either vaso-dilation or vaso-constriction. Perhaps after all the activity, you are experiencing a headache due to vaso-dilation.  That is one reason people respond well to Imitrex.  It is a vaso-constrictor. You may wish to contact your medical practitioner about these headaches. Hypertension in another reason people get headaches with activity–likely not a problem if the headaches only occur under the two circumstances you mentioned, but it never hurts to have it checked!

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writes: A discussion has surfaced on rec.sport.triathlon about severe headaches

brought on after the end of an endurance race like a triathlon. I too experience them occasionally. After a 3 or 4 hour endurance race There has been discussion here several times, and very recently, regarding both sexual and exercise induced headaches. A quick dejanews search will find quite a few posts. Just filter search for: sex and headaches , exercise and headaches. I hope others will also post some new stuff for you. Just a question. Are you sure you’re not combining the events? A 3-4 hour triathlon sex session might give alot of people a headache!!!! sorry! The "schwing.org" in your address got me thinking of Garth and Saturday Night Live and was in a *silly* mood. ( Really not my style , really!! Bob

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Hi all, kind of sorry to post here, my headaches aren’t anything like the incapicitating migraines my mom has, but alt.support.headache is totally empty. A discussion has surfaced on rec.sport.triathlon about severe headaches brought on after the end of an endurance race like a triathlon. I too experience them occasionally. After a 3 or 4 hour endurance race I feel well (but tired), however an hour or two after, usually on the way home, I will experience a sudden onset, severe, stabbing headache, that sometimes goes away in a few hours, sometimes not until the next morning. Not always, but sometimes. I sometimes have these same headaches after sex. (not tonight, it GIVES me a headache!). No kidding. Any others suffer the same type of cause/headache? What might be the reason? Don’t tell me to stop, because both of the things that cause them are too much darned fun!

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I just bought myself a nice expensive mountain bike last year, and now I’m interested in training for a sprint/olympic triathlon.  What’s the difference in performance between the MTB and the racing bike?? Do people race with mountain bikes (with slicks I presume) in triathlons ? Thanks in advance Rob

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Not only do they use MTB’s in triathlons, I have seen more than one MTB in a tri with knobby’s.  BTW, they were kicking butt.  IMHO, it’s actually kinda cool to use an MTB in a tri.  At Ironman Hawaii last year, one guy used a beach cruiser (eight hour split). There are some triathlon venues that stage the bike portion on dirt, then everyone uses an MTB. When you use an MTB in a standard triathlon, you will be at a disadvantage compared to the roadies.  I would guess that you are setting your bike split back by approximately  25%.  However, if you are a strong cyclist, you can still place well. Definately give it a "tri". "Life’s a brick" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just bought myself a nice expensive mountain bike last year, and now I’m interested in training for a sprint/olympic triathlon.  What’s the difference in performance between the MTB and the racing bike?? Do people race with mountain bikes (with slicks I presume) in triathlons ? Thanks in advance Rob

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I used my Cannondale mtb in several tris in Asia with great success. I bought Continental GPs (model 25-559) that fit right on the mountain rims. I think they’re around 23 or 25mm wide, kevlar bead (foldable) and rated to take maximum pressure of 120psi. I bolted on some aero extensions, put the seat as far forward as I could, used my normal mountain clipless pedals and shoes. I beat a hell of a lot of guys on very trick machines. . . I have a tri bike now so its very unlikely I’ll be using my mountain bike on the roads again. I’d be willing to sell the Conti tires and skinny 26" tubes. They were used only for racing (all my training was done on the regular mountain tires). They’re virtually brand new. ORIGINAL PRICES: Tires were $38 each, 2 skinny 26" tubes (butyl) were $5 each. I also have one NEW Hutchison 1.20" slick with kevlar bead (was $30). I’ll sell all for 50% of original, pre-tax cost (firm). Good luck with the tri. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just bought myself a nice expensive mountain bike last year, and now I’m interested in training for a sprint/olympic triathlon.  What’s the difference in performance between the MTB and the racing bike?? Do people race with mountain bikes (with slicks I presume) in triathlons ? Thanks in advance Rob

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You bet. See it all the time. Unless you are hoping to win, which you should not be hoping for at least three years. Just do it, and have fun. Don’t worry about the results. I think your biggest concern is making a fool of yourself showing up to a tri with a mountain bike. Don’t worry, you will not do that; you’ll have plenty of fat-tire company. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just bought myself a nice expensive mountain bike last year, and now I’m interested in training for a sprint/olympic triathlon.  What’s the difference in performance between the MTB and the racing bike?? Do people race with mountain bikes (with slicks I presume) in triathlons ? Thanks in advance Rob

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See ‘em all the time, especially in sprints. Only a few in olympics. Biggest difference is ability to get aerodynamic in your body position. I say this because the components on high end MTBs are pretty good, and their weight is reasonable vs. a steel frame. I have seen aerobars on MTBs (Syntace includes the mounting instructions with C2s), which will help get you out of the nearly upright MTB posture. Slicks or MTB street tires (ie, with tread) will help reduce the weight at the rim and improve wheel aerodynamics vs. knobbys. Another option that you might consider is to enter an offroad MTB triathlon. They seem to be growing in popularity. Inside Triathlon did a piece on them in the most recent issue, and even has a separate listing of these races. For example, Mrs. T’s has an MTB division (race is in early August). However, Mrs. T’s requires that you use knobbys in this division. Most MTB races go off-road, so you’ll want to plan accordingly. Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just bought myself a nice expensive mountain bike last year, and now I’m interested in training for a sprint/olympic triathlon.  What’s the difference in performance between the MTB and the racing bike?? Do people race with mountain bikes (with slicks I presume) in triathlons ? Thanks in advance Rob

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It is definitely not OK! I remember a couple of years ago I was feeling pretty good about averaging 21mph on my Merlin over a rolling 15 mile bike course.  Imagine how I felt when some guy passed me near the end on a mountain bike.  Some people have a lotta nerve!  I spent good money on my bike… Tom Cooper

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Mountain bikes are a blast at any time!  If you’re in FL, try a CFT tri, they have a specail category for the folks riding mt. bikes.  ENJOY!

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Rob, I’m a NEWBIE in here and I posted the same question a few weeks back and received positive responses….there are Tri’s that are specifically for off roads and there are a few shorter or for more "common" athletes that use ATBs…I too had recently purchased a very nice Raleigh M800 with lots of goodies. I put slicks on…just went clipless recently and will be entering my first Tri in October! Good luck! Andrew

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I agree with Myles a/k/a Tri-ferret on this one: if you are not interested in the thread, don’t read it.  There’s enough room here for everyone. I respectfully disagree with Paul.  Sex is always popping-up in the threads. Maybe one’s sexual preference does matter at times.  My feeling is, if it bothers you that much, see above. Cory "let’s play nice" H.

I must agree with Cory and Myles.  Check out the rec.sport swimming for some pretty raunchy posts.  My favorite was a bit of advice on winning the attention of some babe in lane 2.  The poster suggested wearing two suits, one tucked inside the other.  Nobody responded with a tut-tut, we can’t have any of that x-rated internet stuff.  As long as heteros think sexual preference matters to themselves enough not to want to be reminded of different preferences, then we must accept that it matters to everyone, inclusively. At the same time, I thought Paul’s sentiment was entirely without malice and therefore perfectly acceptable to me. Ruth Kazez

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 I’m a gay guy and I prefer longer races.  I’ve done the Ironman six times  and and look forward to checking out some of the other Ironman races next  year.

Yeah, but I still want to know what kind of a car do you drive? |       Ray Plotecia            | |       Image Control           |

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Don’t sweat it, Bob.  Who among us has not had the occasional bad day? Cory H.

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I posted this. I don’t like it.  I agree that it was inappropriate and irrelevant (and most importantly rude).  I also agree that there is more than enough room for posts of this kind and that if I really thought it was boring I could have simply skipped the thread. It was a bad day – not that that is an excuse. My apologies to anyone I’ve alienated. Bob

On ya Bob.  Good guys have bad days too.  Shouldn’t worry about it too much – everyone is entitled to their own opinion (or at least, that’s my opinion!) TriFerret/TriGIT (Tri-haven’t-decided-yet).

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I agree with Myles a/k/a Tri-ferret on this one: if you are not interested in the thread, don’t read it.  There’s enough room here for everyone. I respectfully disagree with Paul.  Sex is always popping-up in the threads. Maybe one’s sexual preference does matter at times.  My feeling is, if it bothers you that much, see above. Cory "let’s play nice" H.

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Can’t swim; Has 4Runner.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can’t swim; Has 4Runner. Mrs. T’s tri in Chicago on the 27th of Aug.. There are something like 4000 triathletes in total(or is it more ???, it’s lots in any case) More importantly, for a gay triathlete, is the SMELTS triathlon weekend that is part of it.  The SMELTS is the Chicago gay sports group who organize in conjunction with the large Mrs. T’s race a weekend for gay triathletes in Chicago They bill it as the largest gathering of gay triathletes in North America.  I will be there having a grand time. Steve, are you out there in cyberspace with all the info ???? Mrs. T’s info line:         312-404-2372 Smelts Info:                        312-281-4692/312-478-1054 P.S. Out of curiosity, which pocket are you carrying your toothbrush     in ???  :-) — Brendan Leitch                        __            My views only, not Magellan Passport OS                  /            those of my employer Bell Northern Research "You can have a great job, great place to live Ottawa, CANADA              and a great lover, but not all three at once"                      Micheal Tolliver – Character in Armistead                           Maupin’s "Tales of the City" series

This really is *so* boring!  Does anyone else agree?  I don’t care who you want to have a relationship with – but does it have anything at all  to do with triathlon. I don’t get it. Bob

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This really is *so* boring!  Does anyone else agree?  I don’t care who you want to have a relationship with – but does it have anything at all  to do with triathlon. I don’t get it. Bob

I posted this. I don’t like it.  I agree that it was inappropriate and irrelevant (and most importantly rude).  I also agree that there is more than enough room for posts of this kind and that if I really thought it was boring I could have simply skipped the thread. It was a bad day – not that that is an excuse. My apologies to anyone I’ve alienated. Bob

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Can’t swim; Has 4Runner.

Mrs. T’s tri in Chicago on the 27th of Aug.. There are something like 4000 triathletes in total(or is it more ???, it’s lots in any case) More importantly, for a gay triathlete, is the SMELTS triathlon weekend that is part of it.  The SMELTS is the Chicago gay sports group who organize in conjunction with the large Mrs. T’s race a weekend for gay triathletes in Chicago They bill it as the largest gathering of gay triathletes in North America.  I will be there having a grand time. Steve, are you out there in cyberspace with all the info ???? Mrs. T’s info line:             312-404-2372 Smelts Info:                    312-281-4692/312-478-1054 P.S. Out of curiosity, which pocket are you carrying your toothbrush      in ???  :-) — Brendan Leitch                    __            My views only, not Magellan Passport OS              /            those of my employer Bell Northern Research "You can have a great job, great place to live Ottawa, CANADA          and a great lover, but not all three at once"                           Micheal Tolliver – Character in Armistead                                Maupin’s "Tales of the City" series

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(inresponse to some conversation re the above subject) This really is *so* boring!  Does anyone else agree?  I don’t care who you want to have a relationship with – but does it have anything at all  to do with triathlon. I don’t get it. Bob

There seem to be a lot of things on this newsgroup that are not directly related to triathlons – why pick on this one?  More to the point, if it bores you so much, don’t read it (it has a clear subject heading after all) – just like I don’t read the stuff on races in Canada and the US, which are usually places and people I don’t know, so I miss all the witty innuendo that is often in accompaniment. Lighten up. Tri-ferret (still toying with Tri-nerd)

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This really is *so* boring!  Does anyone else agree?  I don’t care who you want to have a relationship with – but does it have anything at all  to do with triathlon. I don’t get it. Bob

It has everything to do with triathlons and almost nothing to do with relationships.  If you find it boring, skip over it.  Somebody asked a question related to triathlons and I answered it, in the most appropriate forum and in the most direct way. I find many things here boring and many interesting.  I skip over the boring things and go to the interesting ones. — Brendan Leitch                    __            My views only, not Magellan Passport OS              /            those of my employer Bell Northern Research "You can have a great job, great place to live Ottawa, CANADA          and a great lover, but not all three at once"                           Micheal Tolliver – Character in Armistead                                Maupin’s "Tales of the City" series

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can’t swim; Has 4Runner. Mrs. T’s tri in Chicago on the 27th of Aug.. There are something like 4000 triathletes in total(or is it more ???, it’s lots in any case) More importantly, for a gay triathlete, is the SMELTS triathlon weekend that is part of it.  The SMELTS is the Chicago gay sports group who organize in conjunction with the large Mrs. T’s race a weekend for gay triathletes in Chicago They bill it as the largest gathering of gay triathletes in North America.  I will be there having a grand time. Steve, are you out there in cyberspace with all the info ???? Mrs. T’s info line:             312-404-2372 Smelts Info:                    312-281-4692/312-478-1054 P.S. Out of curiosity, which pocket are you carrying your toothbrush     in ???  :-) — Brendan Leitch                    __            My views only, not Magellan Passport OS              /            those of my employer Bell Northern Research "You can have a great job, great place to live Ottawa, CANADA          and a great lover, but not all three at once"                          Micheal Tolliver – Character in Armistead                               Maupin’s "Tales of the City" series This really is *so* boring!  Does anyone else agree?  I don’t care who you want to have a relationship with – but does it have anything at all  to do with triathlon. I don’t get it. Bob

Triathlon doesn’t care whether your gay or not . So including your sexual preference isn’t important when you post. — Paul Yeung , Ottawa, Canada   SplisH SpLAsh !

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