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i had a griffen vulcan custom built for me- tony free at griffen did an outstanding job. it is by far the quietest bike i have ever ridden- i have a softride, qr, and so on. i think the main reason it feels so great is the fit- i think the custom fitting is at a minimal fee- check their website- also, i haven’t ever felt that it gives a ‘harsh’ ride like some people have said- the vulcan works well with a carbon fork and maybe they opted for an aluminum fork. also, i am a bigger rider and it does not flex at -all-, unlike my old te quilo. very tight, nice and stiff. hope this helps.

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Does anyone out there have any opinions on the Griffen Vulcan aero bike? I am an experienced triathlete and enjoy ironman distance races.  I am currently riding a QR Zero Gravity. Thanks in advance for any info. Bill

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Ok, no hype on Elite Bicycles or how aero etc. I personally like the Griffen bikes. I think they do a great job and makes a worthy bike. As always, test ride one and decide for yourself. David Elite Bicycles http://www.elitebicycles.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone out there have any opinions on the Griffen Vulcan aero bike? I am an experienced triathlete and enjoy ironman distance races.  I am currently riding a QR Zero Gravity. Thanks in advance for any info. Bill

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Nice bike for the money but I (Just my personal opinion, no need to start a mega thread war!)  think that if you could get your hands on a GT Vengeance you might be happier, the Cervelos are pretty sweet too.  Just make sure whatever you get fits you correctly. J-

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Bill, I have been riding a Vulcan for about three monthes and love it.  I am actually having him build me a custom Vulcan.  I want a shorter top tube with a lower standover height.  In response to proponents of GT, Cannondale, Elite, Cervelo, et al… Very well built bikes, but mighty harsh on the body.  The Griffen’s metallurgy really does make a difference.  If you are training for Ironman distance races they will take a toll on the body.  Take a look at the geometry of the Griffen’s, they give you quite a few options as well as custom.  Contact your local Griffen dealer they should be able to get one for a test ride. Good Luck! Blair

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If true, this is pathetic behavior. Grow up Les. AJ Calabrese

I don’t know my history well, but how the heck did we get, or allow, this man to be president? Shaking my head… "Iron Pete" Priolo IMC’96 – 10:36:37    IMC’97 – 10:42:53 ‘98 – Gulf Coast Tri, IMC – confirmed ‘98 – Buffalo Springs Lake Tri, Blackwater Eagleman – unconfirmed

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If true, this is pathetic behavior. Grow up Les. AJ Calabrese I don’t know my history well, but how the heck did we get, or allow, this man to be president?

I have been asking this question for YEARS… Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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Triathlon Digest: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 Vol. 2, No. 23 Published by Triathlon Central In This Issue:         * Serving Les McDonald (from various)         * USA Triathlon responds to Ironman lawsuit (from Rob Perry) Notes from Katherine:         This issue of Triathlon Digest focuses on the lawsuit brought by World Triathlon Corp., the owner and organizer of the Ironman triathlon, against ITU and ITU president Les McDonald. The first item came to the attention of Triathlon Digest from several sources – none of which was the WTC, I want to clarify.         It’s an unusual posting – it’s the notes of the process server who eventually served the legal papers to McDonald. When I contacted WTC for fact-checking, I received the following response from WTC:         "We’re somewhat reluctant to see this information released publicly as we aren’t trying to embarrass anyone.  More importantly, our lawsuit stands on its own in addressing our feelings about the current governance of the sport."         I post the process server’s notes without further comment, as the first item in the Digest. NOTE TO SERVICE OF LES McDONALD November 25th 1997 A man [whom I didn't know, but whom] I now have identified as Les McDonald by virtue of the magazine article [and photo sent to me by WTC] answered the door and told me Les McDonald was in Australia . November 26th 1997 A woman answered [whom I now know to be Mrs. McDonald, but whom I didn't know at the time] and told me Les McDonald was not home and was very evasive as to when he would be [at home]. November 27th 1997 No answer at the door. November 26th 1997 Phoned the [McDonald] home and asked for Les McDonald.  He answered [the phone] and told me he was just leaving for Whistler.  I immediately went to the [McDonald] house and as it happened the mailman was just delivering the mail.  Les McDonald [whom I didn't know at time because I had not as yet received his picture] was collecting it from [the mailman].  I approached and [the man who was] Les McDonald told me that Les McDonald had already left for Whistler and that the address was 2512 Whistler Road. On numerous other occasions there was no response at the door although it was evident the house was occupied. I also attended the [ITU] office on Esquimalt Ave. with no success. January 12th 1998 I attended the [McDonald] home at 7:00 pm and the wife [Mrs. McDonald] answered the door.  I asked for Les McDonald and she said he was not home. I confronted her by saying I could see him through the window at the kitchen table.  She shut the door. I then rang the doorbell several times with no response. I then banged on the front window in full view of Les McDonald.  He made no response, refusing to look at me.  I then went to the side window, no more than five feet from Les McDonald and banged on the window. He again refused to look up.  Then I went back to the front door and noticed it was open. I went into the entrance and looked around the corner [and] looked at Les McDonald who still refused to look up. I said, "Les McDonald, I am leaving your documents on the chair beside the front door." USA Triathlon Answer to Ironman Lawsuit: Says ITU Forced Action Against Ironman Tarpon Springs, Fla., February 2, 1998:  USA Triathlon (USAT), a defendant along with the International Triathlon Union (ITU) and its president Les McDonald in a lawsuit filed by the owner of the Ironman Triathlon sports brand, conceded in its initial U.S. Federal Court response that it may have acted wrongfully against Ironman.  But USAT defended its actions by claiming ITU forced  its hand. USAT’s response states that it "affirmatively objected to, voted against or argued against many of the wrongful acts alleged on the part of ITU."  USAT also states in its answer that "any breach of contract on [its] part was involuntary and was required and compelled by the ITU and is the sole responsibility of the ITU." ITU is the sport of triathlon’s international federation.  USAT is triathlon’s U.S. national governing body, and ITU claims that USAT is under its control.  The World Triathlon Corp. (WTC), which organizes the Ironman Triathlon, has accused ITU of trying to create an illegal monopoly over the commercial aspects of the sport, and of using its rule-making authority in the sport to create an anti-competitive business climate. WTC began the litigation in October 1997 following USAT’s withdrawal of its sanction for the 1997 Ironman Triathlon World Championship.  WTC asserted the withdrawal of the sanction was wrongful and was done by USAT at ITU’s direction because ITU objected to WTC using the words "triathlon world championship" in its event title.  A month later, WTC added broader antitrust claims. McDonald only recently was personally served with a copy of the summons and complaint in the lawsuit after almost two months of trying by a process server.  McDonald has until early February to respond.  ITU’s treasurer (Mark Sisson) also was served with a summons and complaint in Los Angeles in November 1997. USAT’s initial response to the lawsuit also contains the admission that WTC is correct when it alleges that ITU has coupled gaining Olympic eligibility through participation in the ITU World Cup series as part of an ITU attempt to force athletes to choose between competing in the Ironman Triathlon World Championship or the Olympics. WTC also asserts that ITU and McDonald have engaged in a pattern of intimidation, boycotts and punishment against athletes and business interests deemed by ITU to be dissenters or competitors of ITU’s business operations. Those alleged to have been injured by ITU’s anti-competitive conduct include athletes suspended from competing in ITU competitions following their participation in an ITU boycotted "World Cup" event in Queensland, Australia, in 1995; Online Sports International, another Australian group that produced an ITU-boycotted race series that ITU deemed to be in competition with its World Cup series; and a number of other independent triathlon businesses whose principals had spoken out against ITU practices. A full copy of  the lawsuit is available upon request from the United States Court for the Middle District of  Florida, Tampa Division. It also can be accessed on the World Wide Web at http://ironmantri.com.  Other Ironman-related media requests can be made to Rob Perry at 813-942-4767, ext. 233. Inquiries to USAT should be directed to officials at the organization’s Colorado Springs, Colo., headquarters.  McDonald and ITU offices are located in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Editors’ Background on WTC and Ironman Triathlon:  The World Triathlon Corporation (WTC) is based in Tarpon Springs, Fla., and also operates an office in Kona, Hawaii.  WTC, and its principal owner, Dr. James P. Gills, acquired the rights to the Ironman Triathlon trademark and Ironman Triathlon World Championship in 1989.  WTC produces the championship race in Kona, Hawaii, each October and oversees qualifying procedures and events leading to the championship event.  This includes eight international races licensed as iIronman Triathloni events. ITU president McDonald is a five-time finisher of the Ironman Triathlon World Championship and a former age-group Ironman world champion. End of Triathlon Digest, which is sponsored by Triathlon Sourcebook. Please

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Agreed. If true, unbelievable. It’s like the song, [ Les ], "you can run but you cannot hide!" (besides, if he continued to try to evade service of process, chances are that the plaintiff’s attorneys would have other means of perfecting service of the lawsuit, publication, etc.) Pitiful. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At first I wondered, "Is this account true?" Well, it’s not April Fool’s day, the credibilty of Katherine’s posts to date has been good.  There’s a saying that goes something like: "This is too bizarre to be made up."  This probably fits. If true, this is pathetic behavior. Grow up Les. AJ Calabrese In This Issue:         * Serving Les McDonald (from various)         * USA Triathlon responds to Ironman lawsuit (from Rob Perry) Notes from Katherine:         This issue of Triathlon Digest focuses on the lawsuit brought by World Triathlon Corp., the owner and organizer of the Ironman triathlon, against ITU and ITU president Les McDonald. The first item came to the attention of Triathlon Digest from several sources – none of which was the WTC, I want to clarify.         It’s an unusual posting – it’s the notes of the process server who eventually served the legal papers to McDonald. When I contacted WTC for fact-checking, I received the following response from WTC:         "We’re somewhat reluctant to see this information released publicly as we aren’t trying to embarrass anyone.  More importantly, our lawsuit stands on its own in addressing our feelings about the current governance of the sport."         I post the process server’s notes without further comment, as the first item in the Digest. NOTE TO SERVICE OF LES McDONALD November 25th 1997 A man [whom I didn't know, but whom] I now have identified as Les McDonald by virtue of the magazine article [and photo sent to me by WTC] answered the door and told me Les McDonald was in Australia . November 26th 1997 A woman answered [whom I now know to be Mrs. McDonald, but whom I didn't know at the time] and told me Les McDonald was not home and was very evasive as to when he would be [at home]. November 27th 1997 No answer at the door. November 26th 1997 Phoned the [McDonald] home and asked for Les McDonald.  He answered [the phone] and told me he was just leaving for Whistler.  I immediately went to the [McDonald] house and as it happened the mailman was just delivering the mail.  Les McDonald [whom I didn't know at time because I had not as yet received his picture] was collecting it from [the mailman].  I approached and [the man who was] Les McDonald told me that Les McDonald had already left for Whistler and that the address was 2512 Whistler Road. On numerous other occasions there was no response at the door although it was evident the house was occupied. I also attended the [ITU] office on Esquimalt Ave. with no success. January 12th 1998 I attended the [McDonald] home at 7:00 pm and the wife [Mrs. McDonald] answered the door.  I asked for Les McDonald and she said he was not home. I confronted her by saying I could see him through the window at the kitchen table.  She shut the door. I then rang the doorbell several times with no response. I then banged on the front window in full view of Les McDonald.  He made no response, refusing to look at me.  I then went to the side window, no more than five feet from Les McDonald and banged on the window. He again refused to look up.  Then I went back to the front door and noticed it was open. I went into the entrance and looked around the corner [and] looked at Les McDonald who still refused to look up. I said, "Les McDonald, I am leaving your documents on the chair beside the front door."

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At first I wondered, "Is this account true?" Well, it’s not April Fool’s day, the credibilty of Katherine’s posts to date has been good.  There’s a saying that goes something like: "This is too bizarre to be made up."  This probably fits. If true, this is pathetic behavior. Grow up Les. AJ Calabrese – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In This Issue:         * Serving Les McDonald (from various)         * USA Triathlon responds to Ironman lawsuit (from Rob Perry) Notes from Katherine:         This issue of Triathlon Digest focuses on the lawsuit brought by World Triathlon Corp., the owner and organizer of the Ironman triathlon, against ITU and ITU president Les McDonald. The first item came to the attention of Triathlon Digest from several sources – none of which was the WTC, I want to clarify.         It’s an unusual posting – it’s the notes of the process server who eventually served the legal papers to McDonald. When I contacted WTC for fact-checking, I received the following response from WTC:         "We’re somewhat reluctant to see this information released publicly as we aren’t trying to embarrass anyone.  More importantly, our lawsuit stands on its own in addressing our feelings about the current governance of the sport."         I post the process server’s notes without further comment, as the first item in the Digest. NOTE TO SERVICE OF LES McDONALD November 25th 1997 A man [whom I didn't know, but whom] I now have identified as Les McDonald by virtue of the magazine article [and photo sent to me by WTC] answered the door and told me Les McDonald was in Australia . November 26th 1997 A woman answered [whom I now know to be Mrs. McDonald, but whom I didn't know at the time] and told me Les McDonald was not home and was very evasive as to when he would be [at home]. November 27th 1997 No answer at the door. November 26th 1997 Phoned the [McDonald] home and asked for Les McDonald.  He answered [the phone] and told me he was just leaving for Whistler.  I immediately went to the [McDonald] house and as it happened the mailman was just delivering the mail.  Les McDonald [whom I didn't know at time because I had not as yet received his picture] was collecting it from [the mailman].  I approached and [the man who was] Les McDonald told me that Les McDonald had already left for Whistler and that the address was 2512 Whistler Road. On numerous other occasions there was no response at the door although it was evident the house was occupied. I also attended the [ITU] office on Esquimalt Ave. with no success. January 12th 1998 I attended the [McDonald] home at 7:00 pm and the wife [Mrs. McDonald] answered the door.  I asked for Les McDonald and she said he was not home. I confronted her by saying I could see him through the window at the kitchen table.  She shut the door. I then rang the doorbell several times with no response. I then banged on the front window in full view of Les McDonald.  He made no response, refusing to look at me.  I then went to the side window, no more than five feet from Les McDonald and banged on the window. He again refused to look up.  Then I went back to the front door and noticed it was open. I went into the entrance and looked around the corner [and] looked at Les McDonald who still refused to look up. I said, "Les McDonald, I am leaving your documents on the chair beside the front door."

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Les McDonald certainly sounds like someone who will negotiate and rationally think over his positions regarding sponsorship, the Olympics, drafting, WORLD champonship triathlon events, etc. etc.  doesn’t he? Yeesshhh……. Of course I am sure there is SOME rational expalanation for his lying  and avoiding a process server.  But gee!  What does it matter anyway.  The sport is going to be in the OLYMPICS!!!!!! Feeling a bit jaded and sarcastic this AM.  Sorry….. Mark

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According to my local paper, this Sunday NBC will be broadcasting the "Ironman Triathlon World Championships."  Can the word-police be far behind?

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According to my local paper, this Sunday NBC will be broadcasting the "Ironman Triathlon World Championships."  Can the word-police be far behind?

my paper say’s Triathlon: Ironman World Championship i wonder if this is "acceptable" tim hignett buaidh no bas

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Hello, I programmed a small program, so you can now calculate your heartrate for training and marathon faster….. Also Included your ideal time table for the marathon based on a 1k test and based on your best 10k time. The file is attached….. size: +- 100 k zip format Enjoy it – it is totally free Bob

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Hi Bob , I took yoy up on your "free" offer , but when I want to input data , I get no response , please advise – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I programmed a small program, so you can now calculate your heartrate for training and marathon faster….. Also Included your ideal time table for the marathon based on a 1k test and based on your best 10k time. The file is attached….. size: +- 100 k zip format Enjoy it – it is totally free Bob

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If you’re serious about improving your times and enjoyment of triathlons, come join us for a great weekend! THE FEEDBACK FROM THE FIRST TWO CAMPS WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC!   Here’s some info on our camp. The camp will be held in Clermont, Florida (15 miles west of Orlando), site of the Great Floridian Triathlon, The Florida Challenge Tri and others. The dates are November  22, 23, 24, 1996.   Jeff Cuddeback (MA in Exercise Physiology and Industrial Psychology) is coordinating the training (407-788-7030) so give him a call for any specifics.  Jeff believes in training quality over quantity;  people he’s coached in the past have improved their times with shorter training hours.  Jeff is a 35-39 age grouper who is the 1994 U.S. Champ, the 1993 U.S., World, Ironman Champion, (& Triathlete of the Year)      and the1992 Overall U.S. Champ.  He posted a 2:38 at 1996 Boston.  The camp is aimed at age-groupers who want to improve their times and enjoyment of the sport.  The camp is designed to have people share ideas, so everyone benefits.   Besides the 25 meter pool, there is a beautiful lake and beach to practice open water training.  Alec Rukosuev (Pro Triathlete) is a fantastic swimmer ( 1989 Swim Champ of Russia; 1993,94,95, & 96 Panama City Half Ironman Winner; 1996 St Croix Winner; 2nd 1996 Powerman Alabama & St Anthony’s: 1st out of the water Hawaii 1994, 2nd in 1995, 1st in Pro standings 1995; 1995 Powerman Florida, Lighthouse Tri, Memphis in May winner;) and is supervising the swimming.  His wife, Lera Rukosuev, the 1989 USSR Swimming Champ, will also be coaching.   Jim Ward, the 75+ age group phenom will be coaching also.  Jim has 6 World and 12 U.S. Championships under his belt, including 1995 Worlds and 2 Hawaii Ironman wins. The cost is $449 which includes 3 nights lodging and breakfast and lunch each day and a Saturday nite party; we request a $100 deposit to hold a spot, which is refundable up to 1 month before the camp.   Hope to see you there.  We’ll be sending out questionaires to all who have signed up.  E-mail me or Call 407-884-5008 for any other info. JOLF

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Now that we have changed the date of the Gatorade Triathlon Championship to Nov. 16th – Campers could come down for a race the weekend before the camp.  Let me know if you have any interest in offering this to your campers.  Z Tom Ziebart – Exclusive Sports Marketing

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Andy: I haven’t received official Reston results yet, but I did compete in the race.  The bike course was shorter and faster this year after the Hunter Station hill was cut out.  The course this year consisted of three loops (Twin Branches-Glade-Soapstone-Lawyers-Reston Parkway-Colts Neck-South Lakes-Twin Branches).  As you can imagine the finishing times were much faster.  My source is the Reston Local Newspaper Sports section (9/13 edition) which is not 100% reliable.  Also there was some difficulty in tabulating the results the day of the race — the awards ceremony started about one hour after the last participant crossed the finish line. Eric Sorensen won the race in 1:51:42 vs. his last year’s time of 2:00:38 followed by Tim Morris 1:57:26 and David Cascio 1:58:21.  As you can see, Eric smoked the field.  Kim McLaughlin was the first woman in 2:05:40 followed by Nancy Slayden 2:06:39 and Beth O’Connor 2:08:45.  The swim and run courses were the same as in previous years. The Bike Course:  Coming down the 3 mile South Lakes Drive stretch you could easily go over 30 mph most of the time.  The comparison for me was in my average speed this year (23.5mph )vs. last (22mph) on the bike.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see faster run times too since legs weren’t pushed as much on the bike.  My run was actually a little slower than last year. Race Management:  I heard no complaints about the management of the race which is usually a sign that it was run very well.  Kudos to Race Directors Bunny Bonnes, Jim DeRosiers, Mick Toman, Paula Lembke, et al. There was enough Papa Johns pizza for everyone to have a box to themselves.  Other goody hand outs:  water bottle, singlet, long sleeved denim shirt.  While waiting for the awards ceremony some of the local gals (aged 3-5) entertained the crowd by throwing keychains supplied by a local radio station to just about anyone who wanted them. Swim:  The swim was seeded according to self predicted swim time with about 75 per wave.  I think this worked out very well — with less people getting plowed over (like last year when all women were in the first wave including last finisher overall, Marge Stahl (64) who probably didn’t appreciate getting swamped by many swimmers.  There was some congestion near the exit of T1 onto Twin Branches.  As the fastest  bikers were coming down the hill, at the bottom of the hill,  later starters were entering the race.and almost immediately there is the 90 degree right turn onto Glade.  A special lane was coned off for protecting those just beginning the bike.  Apparently there were no accidents other than two guys knocking each other over as they both came out of T1 together. I heard no reports of runners going off course through the woods, so the marshalls there must have done their jobs well.  The shaded run and great weather also decreased the need for multiple aid stations on the run and bike although these were both there in sufficient numbers. Overall, I

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I think there’s some new organization in Santa Monica called Triathlete Zombies.  I understand they even have a retail store in Santa Monica. Sorry, that’s all I know. Peter

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I think there’s some new organization in Santa Monica called Triathlete Zombies.  I understand they even have a retail store in Santa Monica. Sorry, that’s all I know.

I didn’t see the original post but, yes, there is a Triathlete Zombies outfit in Santa Monica, that is both a retail store and a mail order service.  It’s run by two brothers, Robert & Patrick Gan, who are terrific guys and very dedicated to the sport.  They have an e-mail address, too:   If you get in touch, mention that Cherie Gruenfeld recommended them.   You’ll enjoy dealing with them.

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Does anyone know of any associations of triathletes in the So Cal area for joint training or club activities??? Particularly in the Malibu, Studio City and Santa Monica areas??? Signed, Desperately in need of Training Partners

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In case, you can’t get our Finnish letters, the:   "Go Go RST!" = "HYVA HYVA RST!" where the "a" letters in HYVA also have the 2 dots above them. Jyri Manninen

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Well, I’ve tried to keep track of all the suggestions to date about what/how the r.s.t wear should look like (in terms of logos etc). Since many were interested in using a foreign language, why not use Finnish. Its probably one of the rarest (and weirdest) languages around with only about  5 million speakers in Finland (+ some hundreds of thousands outside our borders). Anyway, here are my suggestions. 1. UINTI, PYORAILY, JUOKSU   =  swim, bike, run     (note the O and A in PYORAILY both have those 2 dots above them like in      some German letters)

I think this is great.  Let’s have some more non-English translations for "SWIM", "BIKE", "RUN". Can anyone take a shot a Japanese? Pat    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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I know I have a big rear end, butt I’m still not sure all the writing will fit. So I vote for the shortest. Janet

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Well, I’ve tried to keep track of all the suggestions to date about what/how the r.s.t wear should look like (in terms of logos etc). Since many were interested in using a foreign language, why not use Finnish. Its probably one of the rarest (and weirdest) languages around with only about  5 million speakers in Finland (+ some hundreds of thousands outside our borders). Anyway, here are my suggestions. 1. UINTI, PYORAILY, JUOKSU   =  swim, bike, run     (note the O and A in PYORAILY both have those 2 dots above them like in      some German letters) 2. HYV[ HYV[ R.S.T!   = (literally) GOOD GOOD RST    (but it is equivalent to like "Go Go R.S.T!") 3. MAAILMAN KOVIN (PARAS) TRIATHLON SEURA    = The world’s toughest (best) triathlon club 4. VOITTOON INTERNET-AALLON AVULLA    = Heading for the win on the internet-wave 5. VOITTON INTERNET-AALTOJA SURFAILLEN    = Surfing the internet-waves towards the win. Anyway, here us just some simple examples. If you guys out there want something translated (i.e. some really cool phrase), then I can translate them into Finnish and also try to to get it to sound good (e.g. use of poetic license and all that stuff!). So let’s get some reactions. QRMan, Mr. Brug ?! Jyri Manninen Jyvaskyla University Finland.

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I got a Sports Instruments HRM from Supergo.com.  It’s really good, so far, and you can’t beat the price.  A friend of mine had a lower-level Sports Instruments HRM, and when he had a problem with it, they were very good with helping him out.  That’s my suggestion… Dan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need to buy a new heart rate monitor, and need some advice.  I would like one that has average HR, max HR, time in and out of training zone, and allows the use of stopwatch functions during training.  Don’t know if computer download capabilities are worth the extra money. I did see what seems like a good price on the Polar Coach (I think this is last year’s model).  It seems to have what I need.  Does anyone have experience with this model? Also any ideas on where to get the best price? Any help would be appreciated.

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I have the Polar Coach with PC Coach Light and give it a definite thumbs up. The quality is very high and it has been quite reliable for the past 6 months. I had another Polar model for about 10 years and was satisfied with it as well. Some people report fitting problems with the chest strap and some problems getting it started. Since I sweat profusely, I’ve never had a problem getting an accurate reading even on a dry winter day. I have a 43 " chest and the strap fits me fine. Also, mine works well in the swimming pool, though some people report that theirs leaks water in the pool and doesn’t keep good track of their heart rate. (Polar will replace the seal for you.) The only pool related problem I’ve had is when I do a flip turn, and extend my arms for the glide off the wall, the chest strap will slip down a little. Prices have dropped significantly, and PC Coach Light makes a nice log book. The new Polar models use infrared uploading I believe, which is probably greatly superior to the sound uploading of the Coach model. That’s possibly the best reason for springing for the pricier model, but the Coach will do fine IMHO. Best Regards, Robert – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I need to buy a new heart rate monitor, and need some advice.  I would like one that has average HR, max HR, time in and out of training zone, and allows the use of stopwatch functions during training.  Don’t know if computer download capabilities are worth the extra money. I did see what seems like a good price on the Polar Coach (I think this is last year’s model).  It seems to have what I need.  Does anyone have experience with this model? Also any ideas on where to get the best price? Any help would be appreciated.

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I need to buy a new heart rate monitor, and need some advice.  I would like one that has average HR, max HR, time in and out of training zone, and allows the use of stopwatch functions during training.  Don’t know if computer download capabilities are worth the extra money. I did see what seems like a good price on the Polar Coach (I think this is last year’s model).  It seems to have what I need.  Does anyone have experience with this model? Also any ideas on where to get the best price? Any help would be appreciated.

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I have used the Polar Coach for the last year and have been very pleased with it for training and racing.  Most interesting is this spring I’ve been able to print up HR charts from two 10k races and compare it to HR charts from the same two races last spring.  Very interesting.  I always like to see how my splits compare from year to year but now I can observe HR’s comparisons right along side with timed splits.  I am really looking forward to seeing comparisons of HR charts between last years Tri’s and this years. Sincerely, Rick Swanger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need to buy a new heart rate monitor, and need some advice.  I would like one that has average HR, max HR, time in and out of training zone, and allows the use of stopwatch functions during training.  Don’t know if computer download capabilities are worth the extra money. I did see what seems like a good price on the Polar Coach (I think this is last year’s model).  It seems to have what I need.  Does anyone have experience with this model? Also any ideas on where to get the best price? Any help would be appreciated.

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I owned one for six months before I was confident that I was using it correctly.  I think that triathlon rewards mental toughness so much that my tendnacy was to press too hard too often. Knowing your HR settings and sticking to a strategy gives you the "excuse" you need to convert a hard workout into a sensible one. Now, that having been said, you don’t need allot of the fancy bolt-on features for that objective.  In fact, if you don’t use the HRM consistently, you may be stuck with an over-engineered gizmo that sits in your sock drawer.  Maybe less is more(?). rsquared – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need to buy a new heart rate monitor, and need some advice.  I would like one that has average HR, max HR, time in and out of training zone, and allows the use of stopwatch functions during training.  Don’t know if computer download capabilities are worth the extra money.

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I use my HRM every workout, and can honestly say it has helped me improve much more than I could without it.   The only thing I didn’t like about them was the price. So many Multi Sport shops charge incredible amounts for these HRMs.  So, I thought I’d try to get in quantity for less.  I did, and now I can get them to you for less. All with a COMLETE 1 YEAR WARRANTY from Polar.  All HRMs listed are Water Resistent to 20 Meters, and are wireless.  Batteries are included, as are complete directions on how to use your HRM.  Compare to your local shops’ prices, and I think you’ll be suprised. Ordering info is at the bottom of this message. Polar Favor    Simplest model.  No special features – it just shows you    your heart rate.    Suggested Retail: $119.00    Your Price:       $100.00  ($95.00 for quantity 5) Polar Pacer (BEST VALUE)    In my mind, this model is all you ever need in a HRM.    Features: Heart Rate, Alarms for high and low              targets, Clock with alarm.  The Alarms              allow you to set a target zone in which              the alarm will not go off.  This feature              is probably the most important feature of              any HRM.    Suggested Retail: $159.00    Your Price:       $125.00  ($120.00 for quantity 1) Polar Edge    Features: Displays Heart Rate and Total time of exercise.              Hi/Low Target Alarms (see Pacer for description).              Computes and displays total time above the lower              target zone.    Suggested Retail: $189.00    Your Price:       $149.00  ($144.00 for quantity 5) Polar Accurex II    Features: Displays lap time, time of day or stopwatch, and              Heart Rate.              Records 44 lap times and corresponding heart rate.              Computes and displays average HR for entire workout.              Hi/Low target zone, settable to 1 beat increments.              Computes and displays time below, in, and above              your target zone.              Complete sportswatch functions.              … and more.    Suggested Retail: $249.00 (Yikes!)    Your Price:       $204.00  ($199.00 for quantity 5) Polar Vantage XL    Too bloody expensive, but if your interested let me know.    This one can hook up to your PC for downloading data for    performance evaluation. Questions: Call: 619.792.8743 (Home)       619.546.5331 (Work) Order Info:    $4.99 for S&H (Cont. US)    Cash discount, for local orders.    Tax: Add 7%    Send Check or Money Order to:    FitWise    162 Via De La Valle    Solana Beach, CA 92075    Allow 3-5 Weeks for delivery. —              |     —–       Even a Stopped Clock      |              |    /  |        Gives the Right Time      |              |   |   |   |          Twice a Day!         |              |   |     |                               |              |       /         John R. Lanpheer       | — * DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is          * * personal opinion, not an official statement of Biosym Technologies, Inc.    *

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…..   these HRMs.  So, I thought I’d try to get in quantity for less.  I did, and now I can get them to you for less. ……   FitWise

I believe that Creative Health Products can beat these prices and they do their own service.  Their phone # is 800-742-4478. Dave LaPorte U. of Minn.

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….. these HRMs.  So, I thought I’d try to get in quantity for less.  I did, and now I can get them to you for less. ……   FitWise I believe that Creative Health Products can beat these prices and they do their own service.  Their phone # is 800-742-4478. Dave LaPorte U. of Minn.

Well, I called ‘em and here’s what I got: HRM             Their Price     My Old Price    My New Price Polar Favor     98.00           100.00          96.00 Polar Pacer     127.90          125.00          125.00 (unchanged) Polar Edge      159.00          149.00          149.00 (unchanged) Polar AccurexII 198.00          204.00          198.00 And yes, they are a certified Polar Repair Shop, but you can also send it directly to polar for repairs (a more reliable option I think). (Additional discounts for quantity orders, or LOCAL cash orders) —              |   — @       John R. Lanpheer     — @   |              |     /|/                            /|/ |              |  – |_     (619) 546 – 5331     — |_  |              |     / /                             / /  | — * DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is          * * personal opinion, not an official statement of Biosym Technologies, Inc.    *

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(Tim Nelson) writes: Races in Ontario Canada for 1993 This is only for races I know about by picking up race info from road races which I attend, so please don’t expect it to be complete. Format: month day – city – title                 – race distance=fee (late fee) – prizes                 – info phone number or address PS.  If you know of more, just let me know and I will add them to the list.

Here’s one more…/Elizabeth June 2  - Toronto – YMCA 1993 Corporate Team Challenge         – 5K route x 4 members per team = $75 per team ($85 after May 14)         – last day to enter is June 1, 6 PM.         – awards, top 5 teams in each categories         – Cagetories, 4 males, 4 females, 2males/2females, 1 male/3 females           or 1 female/3 males (age groups each category)         – info, 921-5171 ext. 5292

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Races in Ontario Canada for 1993 This is only for races I know about by picking up race info from road races which I attend, so please don’t expect it to be complete. Format: month day – city – title                  - race distance=fee (late fee) – prizes                  - info phone number or address April 18 – Toronto – National Ballet of Canada’s Pointe-to-pointe 10k Run                    - 10k=$20 (+5) – 4000 runners – prizes and money and medals                    - Corporate Challenge call (416) 366-4846                    - info (416) 322-7100 May 2 – London – Forest City Marathon and 10k Road Race                - Marathon=$25 (+5) certified Canada and US – awards are prizes                - 10k=$15 (+5) certified Canada and US – awards are prizes                - info (519) 685-8675 May 30 – Hamilton – JA Icebreaker 8k                   – 8k=$12 (+2) – awards are prizes                   – info (416) 945-6608 (fax 416-945-8592) June 6 – Toronto – Metro Seniors’ Challenge Dare to Care                  - 5k Run and Walk=$15 (+5) – awards are medals                  - 10k Run and Team event=$15 (+5) – awards are medals                  - info (416) 392-8911 June 13 – Burlington – Cedar Springs Sweat ‘N Splash                      - 10k=$13 (+3) – awards are prizes                      - info (416) 632-4800 June 25 – Dundas – Wheels Mountain Bike Duathlon and 5k Race                  - duathlon=$20 – awards are prizes and trophies                  - 5k=$10 – awards are prizes and trophies                  - info (416) 577-6535 Raymond Johasson                  - info (416) 385-3535 Jean Potter (fax 416-385-6121) PS.  If you know of more, just let me know and I will add them to the list. — NCR Canada +1 416 819 4112

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Races in Ontario Canada for 1993 This is only for races I know about by picking up race info from road races which I attend, so please don’t expect it to be complete. Format: month day – city – title                  - race distance=fee (late fee) – prizes                  - info phone number or address April 25 – Richmond Hill (Toronto) – Thrill on the Hill     – 10k=$20 – awards are prizes and money     – info (416) 477-7871 (fax 416-477-9447) April 25 – Boston-Brantford Classic Run     – 1/2 marathon=$15 – awards are prizes and medals     – 10k=$15 – awards are prizes and medals     – 5k=$15 – awards are prizes and medals     – info (519) 753-4317 (Run office)     – info (519) 756-4200 (Ron Birkett – day)     – info (519) 759-6321 (Ron Birkett – evening) May 2 – London – Forest City Marathon and 10k Road Race     – Marathon=$25 (+5) certified Canada and US – awards are prizes     – 10k=$15 (+5) certified Canada and US – awards are prizes     – info (519) 685-8675 May 9 – Toronto – The Women’s Wave 5k Run for Women and Girls     – 5k=$10 (+5) – awards are money and prizes     – info (416) 322-7100 (fax 416-322-7102)     – info (416) 762-4478 (fax 416-762-2848) May 15 – Queenston – The Blossom Run     – 10k=$15 (+3) – awards are ?     – 4k=$4 – awards are ?     – info (416) 358-5213 Brian Smith May 22 – Waterdown – Whitey’s Road Races     – 15k=$10 (+2) – certified – awards are medals and prizes                    - records men=47:15 women=56:52     – 2.25mi=$3 – awards are medals     – info Whitey Sheridan Road Race Association            174 Main Street South            Waterdown, Ontario    L0R 2H0 May 29 – Dundas – Sulphur Springs Trail Run     – 25k=$20 (+10) – 75% trails 25% abandoned rail – awards are ?     – 50k=$25 (+10) – 75% trails 25% abandoned rail – awards are ?     – info (416) 392-8723 Les Michalak  (home 416-335-6756)     – limit 300 runners May 30 – Hamilton – JA Icebreaker 8k     – 8k=$12 (+2) – awards are prizes     – info (416) 945-6608 (fax 416-945-8592) May 30 – Aylmer – Kellogg’s Duathlon     – duathlon=$25 – awards are discs, plaques and prizes     – 5k run/25k cycle/4k run     – info (519) 765-3467 (Rick Cornelissen home)     – info (519) 773-3174 (Rick Cornelissen work) June 6 – Toronto – Metro Seniors’ Challenge Dare to Care     – 5k Run and Walk=$15 (+5) – awards are medals     – 10k Run and Team event=$15 (+5) – awards are medals     – info (416) 392-8911 June 13 – Burlington – Cedar Springs Sweat ‘N Splash     – 10k=$13 (+3) – awards are prizes     – info (416) 632-4800 June 13 – Waterloo – The Big Brothers Triathalon/10 km Run     – cost ? – awards ?     – info (519) 579-5150     – info c/o Big Brothers, 451 Ottawa Street South June 20 – Waterloo – The Waterloo 10k Classic     – cost? – awards ?     – info (519) 884-3344     – info c/o Lloyd Schmidt, 443 Stillmeadow Circle, Waterloo, Ontario N2L 5M1 June 25 – Dundas – Wheels Mountain Bike Duathlon and 5k Race     – duathlon=$20 – awards are prizes and trophies     – 5k=$10 – awards are prizes and trophies     – info (416) 577-6535 Raymond Johasson     – info (416) 385-3535 Jean Potter (fax 416-385-6121) July 1 – Embro – Highland Games 10k Embro Road Race     – 10k=$5 – awards are medals     – info Rollie Rutherford, Embro Caledonian Society, Embro, Ontario N0J 1J0 August 22 – St Thomas – Pacemaker Duathlon     – duathlon=$35 (+5) – awards are ?     – 5k run/30k cycle/5k run     – info (519) 433-0655 (Noel MacKay during business hours) PS.  If you know of more, just let me know and I will add them to the list.      If you find any errors please let me know.

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