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Guidelines: Carbohydrate 6-10 g/kg body weight per day depending on exercise level (volume and intensity) Protein:   recommendations range from 1.2 to 1.8 g/kg body weight per day. Most of the research shows no benefit for antyhing more than 2g.kg per day. Fat:  not to exceed 20% of total energy intake

hi! i was hoping to get some thoughts on this. I have an overall idea about complementing diet with salads and fresh fruits and maintaining good protein intake etc etc. but what % of each thinng (proteins,carbos, sugars and fat) are we looking at per pound of body weight say? how do i research this? there is just a lot of info and very little channelized help. has anyone had luck with this? (%’s ) thanks in advance. -anu.

          "There’ll be plenty of time to rest in the grave." -Paul Erdos

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hi! i was hoping to get some thoughts on this. I have an overall idea about complementing diet with salads and fresh fruits and maintaining good protein intake etc etc. but what % of each thinng (proteins,carbos, sugars and fat) are we looking at per pound of body weight say? how do i research this? there is just a lot of info and very little channelized help. has anyone had luck with this? (%’s ) thanks in advance. -anu.           "There’ll be plenty of time to rest in the grave." -Paul Erdos

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ok, so i’ve started regular but unregimented workouts, planning to gain strength for triathlons this summer. the problem i’m running into is this; feeding myself, i.e. issues like optimal frequency, types of food that would best optimize workouts, etc. does anyone have links to or recommendations for a meal schedule or nutritional concerns? any direction would be appreciated. thanks, jack

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Jack – I found this on the net.  95% of it is how I run my eating. http://www.feman.com/dr_fnutr.htm All the best, gordo

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thanks gordo, thats exactly what i was looking for. peace – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jack – I found this on the net.  95% of it is how I run my eating. http://www.feman.com/dr_fnutr.htm All the best, gordo

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There is a good article on two-a-day workouts and meal planning in the current issue of Inside Triathlon.  Nothing terribly specific, but some good pointers/reminders about types and timing of meals, etc. Dave

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Thanks to all who answered my plea for running routes. I had time to check out both the Santa Ana river trail and the beach between the Huntington and Newport piers. Both were good runs. I did my 17-miler on the beach — more people, a bit cooler than the river. In fact I saw the last few finishers in the A Day at the Beach Triathlon in Huntington Beach as I went through there — a good thing since I enjoy tri’s. Was fun. Thanks again, all. Best regards, — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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There’s not much there.  If you want a long run, you can drive out Katella towards Anaheim Stadium (west, I think) and find the Santa Ana River trail.  This is an asphalt bike path that is off the street.  I think it has mile markers, so you can keep track of how far you’ve gone. That sounds like what I’m looking for. Thanks!

Actually, Anaheim Stadium (AKA "Edison Field" in these days of corporate sponsorships) is east of the convention center, on Katella. -Robb — Delete "spamfilter." to reply.

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I’m going to be in Anaheim for about a week starting next Tuesday, and since that’ll be week 2 of my marathon buildup, I’ll need places to run. One run (on Sunday) will, I hope, be a 17-miler.

Huntington  Beach is an excellent choice.  Another option would be the Channel that dumps you at Seal Beach.  I get on right by Heartwell Park/Golf Course in long beach just west of where you are (it crosses katella/willow).  From my entry point at Del Amo and Studebaker it is ~8 miles to Seal Beach.  The trail also goes north to pasedena for 25 or more miles.  Its perfectly flat, you only have to contend with bikes, but it can be windy as anything. andy

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Peter Krivcov wrote in article Like the other fella said, drive to the beach.  Its an easy 20-30 minute drive straight west.  I was there last year for a conference and did some surfing in my free time.  If you’ve never been to LA, you’ve got to see the beach.  Huntington is actualluy a pretty cool beach town and the peir there is worth the walk(run) down.

Actually straight west will take you all the way across Los Angeles County to the vicinity of west-facing Redondo Beach and Manhattan Beach, some thirty or more miles from Anaheim.  *SOUTH* on Beach Boulevard will get you to the vicinity of south-facing Huntington and Newport Beaches within ten or fifteen miles. — Don          

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head to the beach! 20 minutes south!

During "rush hour" (which can be more like 6AM to 8PM) this trip can be over an hour. Before you buy.

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If it were me, I would take the car to Huntington Beach (it is a little ways though, and depending on traffic, it can be slow).  I would run on the paved paths that go for a long ways towards Newport Beach because the ocean views are cool.

Sounds good. I’ve only seen the Pacific once. Thanks! Best regards, — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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I’m going to be in Anaheim for about a week starting next Tuesday, and since that’ll be week 2 of my marathon buildup, I’ll need places to run. One run (on Sunday) will, I hope, be a 17-miler.

Brian, an ideal spot for your 17 mile is the Santa Ana River Trail (as others have already said).  That’s where I trained for the LA Marathon a few years ago.  There’s no traffic, and if you get out by the ocean to start, it’s cooler than Anaheim, and the sea air is fresher.  It’s flat, except for the dips that go under the roads.  If you run in the afternoon, there can be a pretty good head wind blowing in from the ocean. Enjoy! Before you buy.

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Like the other fella said, drive to the beach.  Its an easy 20-30 minute drive straight west.  I was there last year for a conference and did some surfing in my free time.  If you’ve never been to LA, you’ve got to see the beach.  Huntington is actualluy a pretty cool beach town and the peir there is worth the walk(run) down. Later. Pete.

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head to the beach! 20 minutes south! http://community.webtv.net/ultrajohn1/facialsallaround

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head to the beach! 20 minutes south!

Getting a little wordy here aren’t we? — David Olsen

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: I’m going to be in Anaheim for about a week starting next Tuesday, and : since that’ll be week 2 of my marathon buildup, I’ll need places to : run. One run (on Sunday) will, I hope, be a 17-miler. : Anyone have suggestions for where I can head for some decent running : routes? I’ve never been in the LA area before, so don’t assume I know : anything about dodging the traffic and that sort of thing. : I’ll be staying near the Convention Center (and, yes, Disneyland), but : I’ll have access to a car. If there’s, say, a 6- or 8-mile loop I can : repeat for the long run that’d be fine. There’s not much there.  If you want a long run, you can drive out Katella towards Anaheim Stadium (west, I think) and find the Santa Ana River trail.  This is an asphalt bike path that is off the street.  I think it has mile markers, so you can keep track of how far you’ve gone. Aside from that, it’s basically flat concrete and sidewalks for as far as you can imagine in every direction. -pfrench

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There’s not much there.  If you want a long run, you can drive out Katella towards Anaheim Stadium (west, I think) and find the Santa Ana River trail.  This is an asphalt bike path that is off the street.  I think it has mile markers, so you can keep track of how far you’ve gone.

That sounds like what I’m looking for. Thanks! Best regards, — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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If it were me, I would take the car to Huntington Beach (it is a little ways though, and depending on traffic, it can be slow).  I would run on the paved paths that go for a long ways towards Newport Beach because the ocean views are cool. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m going to be in Anaheim for about a week starting next Tuesday, and since that’ll be week 2 of my marathon buildup, I’ll need places to run. One run (on Sunday) will, I hope, be a 17-miler. Anyone have suggestions for where I can head for some decent running routes? I’ve never been in the LA area before, so don’t assume I know anything about dodging the traffic and that sort of thing. I’ll be staying near the Convention Center (and, yes, Disneyland), but I’ll have access to a car. If there’s, say, a 6- or 8-mile loop I can repeat for the long run that’d be fine. Thanks! Best regards, Brian Baresch (remove the "y" before responding) — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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I’m going to be in Anaheim for about a week starting next Tuesday, and since that’ll be week 2 of my marathon buildup, I’ll need places to run. One run (on Sunday) will, I hope, be a 17-miler. Anyone have suggestions for where I can head for some decent running routes? I’ve never been in the LA area before, so don’t assume I know anything about dodging the traffic and that sort of thing. I’ll be staying near the Convention Center (and, yes, Disneyland), but I’ll have access to a car. If there’s, say, a 6- or 8-mile loop I can repeat for the long run that’d be fine. Thanks! Best regards, Brian Baresch (remove the "y" before responding) — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

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There are plenty of places that rent bikes, but you may want to call ahead to pre-arrange; I doubt they’d be open early enough on race morning. You may end up with a one-gear, coaster brake bike, if that’s okay for you.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

i used to go to this race every year, it was my favorite.  i don’t go any longer, as the catalina island folks, i.e., the city of avalon the chamber of commerce, essentially took the race from the founder & race director, bill fulton (who also produces the LA triathlon series bonelli park races, and others). i was deeply offended by this.  there is alot more i could say, as i have been involved since 1992 in various processes that would help mediate a solution. as producer of the Bally TF USTS series races i have the opportunity to deal with communities around the US, and IMHO catalina is stridently the most egregious in their wanton disregard for those who come from outside their community with a plan– eagerly accepted by catalina– only to somehow end up with ownership of the property once it has become successful. the triathlon is the second time it has happened, it occurred to hans albrecht and the catalina marathon as well. therefore, i wouldn’t sponsor, enter, watch, or be involved in this race if it was the last race on earth.  i likewise have a low regard for the various parties who’ve produced this event on a contract basis for catalina, and i wish such parties would have more spine and honor. qrman

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I am interested in what everyone thinks makes a great volunteer at a race. If you could write down a few things about what makes that "difference" between just being a volunteer and being a "GREAT" volunteer, it would be greatly appreciated. Your input will be valuable to the new NIKE Triathlon Series being held this summer in the Northwest (Portland area specifically). You can post here or email me with your comments / concerns / ideas. For those interested in participating in the series, here are the dates: June 14th – NIKE Blue Lake (Troutdale, Or) Sprint / Olympic July 11th – NIKE Hagg Lake (Forest Grove, OR) Sprint / Olympic July 19th – NIKE All Women’s Triathlon (Forest Grove, OR) Sprint Aug. 23rd – NIKE Merwin lake (Woodland, WA) Olympic * All races to be timed using the Champion Chip For entries or more info: www.racecenter.com (503) 644-6822 (AA Sports) Thanks, Dennis McMinn Team NIKE Endorphin

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Any volenteer that follows the RD’s directions is a good thing, and greatly appreacited. A great volenteer is almost always one that has a triathlon background (competition), a good knowlege of the rules, forsight, and a healthy dose of common sence.  Oh yea, and a six pack anders. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am interested in what everyone thinks makes a great volunteer at a race. If you could write down a few things about what makes that "difference" between just being a volunteer and being a "GREAT" volunteer, it would be greatly appreciated. Your input will be valuable to the new NIKE Triathlon Series being held this summer in the Northwest (Portland area specifically). You can post here or email me with your comments / concerns / ideas. For those interested in participating in the series, here are the dates: June 14th – NIKE Blue Lake (Troutdale, Or) Sprint / Olympic July 11th – NIKE Hagg Lake (Forest Grove, OR) Sprint / Olympic July 19th – NIKE All Women’s Triathlon (Forest Grove, OR) Sprint Aug. 23rd – NIKE Merwin lake (Woodland, WA) Olympic * All races to be timed using the Champion Chip For entries or more info: www.racecenter.com (503) 644-6822 (AA Sports) Thanks, Dennis McMinn Team NIKE Endorphin

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A great volunteer is one that SHOWS UP,  with a smile.

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Mracg says… I am interested in what everyone thinks makes a great volunteer at a race.

A great volunteer is a volunteer that: 1. Is where they’re supposed to be when they’re supposed to be. 2. Knows  everything they need to know. e.g. where the course is. (particularly if they are a cycle marshal at a turn around) 3. Cheerful and enthusiastic and has a sense of humour 4. Knows how to lie with a straight face (Doing well, looking good) Best volunteer I ever saw at a race was a run marshal at sprint distance race this year who spent the time doing star jumps and various other energetic execises(in 30 deg C heat wearing full length overalls), gave non-stop encouragement to all the runners and had an ear to ear grin on her face the whole time.  She made my day. — Simon Haigh Illawarra Triathlon Club – Australia http://queene.epsb.edmonton.ab.ca/itc      

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As a race director, you can help make the day go much smoother for both participants and volunteers by making sure your volunteers have as much info about the days events as you can give them, and have someone available to whom they can either turn or direct someone to if any unanswerable questions pop up. I worked at Danskin Denver last year.  I had no idea of what I would be doing until I got to the race.  I, along with one other gentleman, was placed in charge of transition area check in, along with the run start area.  We were both given Danskin T-shirts to wear, while the official race management staff (the people that did know what was going on) wore clothing that did not identify them clearly.  There was a 5k run held in conjunction with the tri that we weren’t told of.  We started getting all kinds of questions about the location and time of the start that we were unable to answer.  Twenty minutes after the race got underway, a lady came up to us to inquire about the start time.  It seems that some of the race applications had the time misprinted, and this person was, understandably, not at all happy about it.  It was her first race, she was very uptight about it, and when she found out she missed it, we caught the brunt of her fury.  She had a number of very legitimate questions and complaints, and there was no one from the race management staff available that we could direct her to.  Since we wore the official Danskin shirts, as far as she was concerned, we were the staff.  We finally managed to track someone down, and she was allowed to run the course on her own.  It was a very uncomfortable situation for all involved. The thing I love to see most from volunteers when I am racing is enthusiasm.  I did a Du a couple of years ago that featured a 3 loop bike course.  The crew directing us at the end of the loops was so wild that they had to be under the influence of something or another.  Picture the scene in the Naked Gun where Leslie Nielson umpires an Angel game.  I think I ended up losing a good thirty seconds on the third lap because I was laughing so hard.  These guys were just about doing cartwheels to point the way. Chuck Berghoefer

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Someone’s attitude at the Columbia Triathlon really disturbed me.  I noticed a group of cyclists riding a little too closely, so I pointed out the drafting rule to them.  I didn’t see them again for quite some time, but then I started seeing them repeatedly as they caught me on the flats and gentle downhills.  On one of these occasions I spotted Joe (not his real name) blatantly hop on the wheel of someone else in the group.  Not quite as politely as earlier, I yelled at Joe, "Get off his wheel!"  In addition to some unrelated expletives, Joe said, "Everyone does it!  So can you!" This really annoyed me.  Joe believed that it was OK to cheat just because he believes that everyone else cheats.  Well, hearing the opinions here on RST and among my friends, I know that not everyone cheats.   So I had an idea how to show the Joes of the world that not everyone cheats.  I thought I would put it forth here to see what others think of it.  Here goes:     At race registration, let people voluntarily sign a "draft-free"     pledge stating that they will not knowingly draft on the     bike.  Mark the bike numbers of these people in an obvious     manner (perhaps color the background yellow with a highlighter?)     so they can publicly show everyone on the bike course that     they’ve signed the pledge.  Give them a summary of the drafting     rules. I wish the officials could be everywhere, but that just isn’t reality. Officials can only do so much.  And since we can’t protest someone else drafting (judgment calls cannot be protested), I want to find some other way (peer pressure) to have some influence on keeping the races fair. Any comments or suggestions?  If I feel there is much chance that this could have any effect, I might be willing to try it at nationals in August.                                         — John PS – While I will do my best to follow this thread on RST, my net access is extremely restricted since I switched jobs six months ago.   So I would appreciate it if you would cc me in any responses. Thanks! — John Walker        Yurie Systems, Inc., Lanham, Maryland WWW URL:   http://xenon.stanford.edu/~walker  

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very good idea about the bike tags but how do you enforce it. It comes down to one person against another. John Schiller

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Great Idea !!!!! – D

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It’s a means of self-enforcement. It forces competitors to acknowledge to the other racers that they read the rules and promise to abide by them. If you see them drafting, then they can’t say "Everyone else is doing it" or "What’s drafting?". All they can say is "I lied." Most who now use those excuses are, in fact, lying. But they can hide behind feigned ignorance and deny their dishonesty to themselves and us. The pledge would strip away the mask. Wonderful idea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – very good idea about the bike tags but how do you enforce it. It comes down to one person against another. John Schiller

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Morning, all, In this context, there is a small race here in Ft Lauderdale, USAT sanctioned, which has a requirement stated on the application form, as follows : "All athletes must sign their finishing cards swearing completion of all three courses and state that they did not cheat or draft or break the rules". Whether anyone actually reads the card when they sign it, I don’t know, but it certainly makes people aware that they have competed in an event that does have rules, and their conscience will surely be pricked if they did not abide by those rules. FWIW. Cheers Barry

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To get around the problem of your news server not getting enough postings, try www.dejanews.com.  If you use the Power Search option, you can choose your desired newsgroup (RST?) and you’ll see a very current group of postings, as well as be able to find ANY posting since Mar ‘95 in most any newsgroup.

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To get around the problem of your news server not getting enough postings, try www.dejanews.com.

Hey, Pat Brug and I were talking about this.   How does dejanews archive all  these posts?  Do they have a server just upstream from UUNet, capturing packets? QRman

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I know exactly how you feel.  Anytime you want to chat to someone who is also bad at swimming, let me know.  

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When I discovered RST a year ago, I posted and replied to several messages.  Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally. Before I get flamed, I am not being critical, just trying to be observant. There are some really interesting people in this group, and if I ever make it to a tri where you guys show up I’ll stop by to say hi.

Don’t let a non response to your postings hurt your feelings. I have a habit of writing stupid stories, and they often sort of hang out there silently. Later, I’ll run into all sorts of people at races who tell me they enjoyed them. I thought about it for a while, and there really was no way to respond. But that doesn’t mean they don’t get read. Just keep posting! Brian Sullivan

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Don’t let a non response to your postings hurt your feelings. I have a habit of writing stupid stories, and they often sort of hang out there silently.

I just want to go on record and say that I love your stupid stories. QRman

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To get around the problem of your news server not getting enough postings, try www.dejanews.com. Hey, Pat Brug and I were talking about this.   How does dejanews archive all  these posts?  Do they have a server just upstream from UUNet, capturing packets?

Actually, I find that the USENET option in Altavista (www.altavista.digital.com) and Zippo (drn.zippo.com) have far more. Especially for non-US based lurkers.  In the case of Altavista and other spidered engines, they use massive indexing engines that use software to roam the net (not just those intimately connected to your immediate domain) capturing messages.  There are several strategies that are used besides spidering and agents. In general, most news feeds in the smaller provider world simply can’t keep up with the sheer volume of articles, so many (or some) get dropped off you local server. The solution to getting all the articles all teh time would be to turn  this NG into a lsitserv.  But then someone’s gotta host it… Tom

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Don’t let a non response to your postings hurt your feelings. I have a habit of writing stupid stories, and they often sort of hang out there silently. I just want to go on record and say that I love your stupid stories. QRman

Me, too. I print out copies for my non-cyber tri friends. They love them. Andrew Peabody Coconut Grove — Internet Communications Of America

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, I have been lurking here for almost a year.  I used to do tri’s, but a shoulder injury keeps me from doing the swim correctly.  I did two tri’s this year, I’m the one doing the breast stroke in the swim… far in the back. When I discovered RST a year ago, I posted and replied to several messages.  Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally. Before I get flamed, I am not being critical, just trying to be observant. There are some really interesting people in this group, and if I ever make it to a tri where you guys show up I’ll stop by to say hi. —John

Did not want to let you go off feeling unloved by just reading this and not reponding, so here it is. BTW I see your postings way to often for you to claim lurk status, face it you’ve become a computerized trigeek like it or not. TriRef

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Yes, I have been lurking here for almost a year.  I used to do tri’s, but a shoulder injury keeps me from doing the swim correctly.  I did two tri’s this year, I’m the one doing the breast stroke in the swim… far in the back. When I discovered RST a year ago, I posted and replied to several messages.  Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally. Before I get flamed, I am not being critical, just trying to be observant. There are some really interesting people in this group, and if I ever make it to a tri where you guys show up I’ll stop by to say hi. —John

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I posted and replied to several messages. Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally.

Hey, sometimes I post and it just sits there like a beached whale.  I choose to think it’s because my posts are received reverently, like a benediction.  All other posts on that day are quickly replied to and dismissed, mine is up there marinating like a good steak. QRman

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Yes, I have been lurking here for almost a year.  I used to do tri’s, but a shoulder injury keeps me from doing the swim correctly.  I did two tri’s this year, I’m the one doing the breast stroke in the swim… far in the back.

Firstly, John, I would not call you a lurker.  I can remember reading your posts about Speedplay covers, selling bikes, and roadie vs. tri-geek comments.  I also remember your posting on doing a short triathlon in Texas — further research reveals that TriDork and Diana McLaughlin gave you encouragement for completing this tri. When I discovered RST a year ago, I posted and replied to several messages. Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally.

This thought has crossed my mind, but I’ve found that posting and getting replies on the newsgroup can be really hit or miss.  Sometimes people really are interested in your ideas, other times you barely get a response and on even more occaisions, people grab onto a tangent in a post that you never expected.  Overall my experience from when I first started posting has been favorable in that I have never felt that my questions have been deemed "below normal".  It’s also helped to have met people face to face at RST get togethers at races and carry on conversations online, but off newsgroup. Before I get flamed, I am not being critical, just trying to be observant. There are some really interesting people in this group, and if I ever make it to a tri where you guys show up I’ll stop by to say hi.

I don’t believe you’ll get flamed.  Whether you want to admit it or not, you’ve done pretty well by the newsgroup, so chin up and keep posting. Tucker Newberry p.s. Now if you’d only lowered the price of the Kestrel you were selling, I might have responded to more of your postings

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I posted and replied to several messages. Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally. Hey, sometimes I post and it just sits there like a beached whale.  I choose to think it’s because my posts are received reverently, like a benediction.  All other posts on that day are quickly replied to and dismissed, mine is up there marinating like a good steak. QRman

As the original poster stated..the RST group appears  at  times to be "clickish", and after reading QRman’s post I just laughed out loud..it’s true that if you’re not a name nor a ‘placer’ … you’re just a another "wannabe" or a number coming across the finish line.. while some of us dont have all of that fancy equipment and we survive some of the events (like for me..the swim is the worst! Maybe be cuz I haven’t trained in that area).. Someday, just maybe someday..we’ll be able to stand in your  presence and look you immortals and say,  "Yup! I’m a RST lurker!" but we’ll be the ones looking at you from a distance and won’t dare walk over to where you’ll all be meeting… maybe next year

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I posted and replied to several messages. Never got much of a response.  Somehow, I get the impression that if you are not a regular poster to this group then your opinions, thoughts, questions are deemed below normal status.  This is why I lurk and only pop up occassionally. Hey, sometimes I post and it just sits there like a beached whale.  I choose to think it’s because my posts are received reverently, like a benediction.  All other posts on that day are quickly replied to and dismissed, mine is up there marinating like a good steak. QRman

I’ve seen the same thing happen to some of my posts. Have you also noticed that you often see replies to posts that you never saw? My ISP explained to me that often items that one posts never get past their own server, hence no response since no one sees it except the persons on that server. Also servers can’t pick up every article on every group due to various reasons. One server may be down while another is retrieving articles, etc. My server was down off and on every day for about 2 weeks and I was only picking up 4-5 articles a day from RST. If I checked my AOL newsgroups, nothing I had posted was there. No big loss to you out there, but this always seems to happen when I have something to say. It’s probably not working now. Andrew Peabody Coconut Grove,FL — Internet Communications Of America

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<<Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area? One of the best Tri shops in the Great Lakes area is Bikesport, which is in Dearborn.  Ask the owner, Tom Demerly, your question.  You’ll get the answers you need. QRman

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The Ann Arbor Triathlon club has weekly timetrials and brick workouts on Thursday nights. We also do an occational open water swim. Members also often get together at odd time for impromtue rides and runs. People come from as far away as Grosse Ile to our workouts. If your interested send me some email. – Doug Douglas P. Drob                        !  ’Your weaknesses will pull you Space Physics Research Laboratory      !   down more than your strengths The University of Michigan             !   will pull you up’ 2455 Hayward Ave                       ! Ann Arbor, MI 48109                    !  - The Weakest Link Principle Phone 313-747-3450

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The riding group in  Dearborn, Mich. is on Wednesday evenings.  We start at 6:30  and ride for a little over an hour.  The ride is fast! and a tremendouse training session.  The ride includes cyclists and triathletes. I am trying to remeber the name of the park we start at and for the life of me the name has slipped my mind.  I will post it if anyone is interested when I get the name. Jay

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Anyone now a good riding group in the Dearborn, MI riding area?

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does anybody know wes sites for triathlete mag. or other sites having trouble going into web. thanks in advance if you know please answer

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http://www.triathletemag.com/tri/ And I suggest going to www.yahoo.com and typing triathlete in the search box.  this is a surefire way to find multiple sites. Chuck james

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Try the below address, and it will get to just about wherever you want to go (related to triathlons, that is) does anybody know wes sites for triathlete mag. or other sites having trouble going into web. thanks in advance if you know please answer

– Marty Miller Proprietor of The Triathlete’s Web http://w3.one.net/~triweb

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Could someone tell me what the difference is between the Polar Accurex and the Accurex 2? Does one have advantages over the other. I have a chance to get the older Accurex. Also, what is the going price on the Accurex 2?

One difference I remember is that the Accurex II stored 44 lap splits while the orginal Accurex stores 3. I suggest looking around for a deal on the Accurex II. It’s been replaced by a ‘nightvision’ model; deals should be available. I recently saw the Accurex II advertised for $139 in the Performance Bike (out of Chapel Hill, NC) catalog. Other mail order shops to call, all have 800 numbers available from 800 info (1-800-555-1212): Triathlete Zombies (San Diego) Creative Health Products (Michigan)- they have a free HRM product guide worth reading Colorado Cyclist (Colorado Springs, CO) — Tom Carminati U S WEST Technologies

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Could someone tell me what the difference is between the Polar Accurex and the Accurex 2? Does one have advantages over the other. I have a chance to get the older Accurex. Also, what is the going price on the Accurex 2? One difference I remember is that the Accurex II stored 44 lap splits while the orginal Accurex stores 3.

 The Accurex 2 has average heart-rate for each complete run. I don’t think the original Accurex has this feature. (Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here).  paul

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Could someone tell me what the difference is between the Polar Accurex and the Accurex 2? Does one have advantages over the other. I have a chance to get the older Accurex. Also, what is the going price on the Accurex 2? Thanks. — Ken Firestone, N3JBU     | If you look at things right, its best not to know                          | to anybody who doesn’t know who he really is                          | actually happens to somebody else. So it makes no                          | difference at all. — Nelson Algren.  

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Has anyone heard if TRI-FED is going to change the temperature at which wetsuits are allowed?  I read they were going to commission some more studies concerning hypothermia/performance vs water temperature (sorry, I don’t remember where, Triathlon Times maybe?) and don’t remember seeing anything else. Larry, do you know anything? #define ASBESTOS 1 #ifdef ASBESTOS Personally, I like wearing my wetsuit and feel much more comfortable in open water with it.  A water temp of 78F does seem a bit high and I tend to get a bit warm in a wetsuit, but 72F is too close too the controversy line if the water temp can not be measured correctly. Today I swam in a pool that was 82F (sans wetsuit).  Many of the older people in the pool were complaining to the aquatic staff and anyone else who would listen that the water was too COLD!  I can’t imagine their reaction if the water was only 72F. #endif Todd Jensen                                  o AT&T Bell Labs             ___^o_    __o    <| (708) 979-1254                     _ <_    

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Has anyone heard if TRI-FED is going to change the temperature at which wetsuits are allowed?  I read they were going to commission some more studies concerning hypothermia/performance vs water temperature (sorry, I don’t remember where, Triathlon Times maybe?) and don’t remember seeing anything else. Larry, do you know anything?

All I know is that TriFed did get $$ to research the topic at the swim flume the USOTC has in Colorado Springs.  I suspect they’ll stick a rectal thermometer into a swimmer, vary the water temp and see what happens.  Assuming good scientific method et al we should learn something from this. As far as when — I think I heard the research wouldn’t affect rules until ‘95. #define ASBESTOS 1 #ifdef ASBESTOS Personally, I like wearing my wetsuit and feel much more comfortable in open water with it.  A water temp of 78F does seem a bit high and I tend to get a bit warm in a wetsuit, but 72F is too close too the controversy line if the water temp can not be measured correctly.

78F was picked to be safe (hypo-wise) for everyone (including 65 year olds).  If you’re worried about over-heating then don’t wear the suit. Today I swam in a pool that was 82F (sans wetsuit).  Many of the older people in the pool were complaining to the aquatic staff and anyone else who would listen that the water was too COLD!  I can’t imagine their reaction if the water was only 72F.

See above. #endif

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