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yes our prices are in canadian funds. thanks for the feed back! bob kwasny athlete’s edge "commitment isn’t the time you spend, its a line you cross."

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hi my name is bob kwasny and i own and operate a sports supplement store in calgary, alberta.  as an ironman triathlete myself, i had no idea where to go for the products i needed and sound advice…..so i opened my own store!  we have a full line of endurox R4 ($59.99 for the large, 39.99 for the small if you buy 2 or more, in all 3 flavors) accelerade (will be in next weeek), all 4 gpush formulas in stock all the time, both types of revenge (sport and pro aswell as musle nitro) 5 flavors of ironman bars, aswell as a pile of other great products. if you cant find what you need or are payiing too much from health food stores, GNC or bodybuilding stores and not getting the advice you need or the service you deserve, call us 403-521-0343 (call collect!). thanks for your time bob kwasny athletesedge.ca "commitment isn’t the time you spend, its a line you cross."

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Hey Bob Performance Bicycle has there Endurox R4 for Large 39.99 and small24.99 need to work on those prices.

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did you see "canadian" in the subject line?  as in canadian dollar stefan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Bob Performance Bicycle has there Endurox R4 for Large 39.99 and small24.99 need to work on those prices.

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Yep, that works out to about $1.25 USD with our dollar in its current sorry state…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Bob Performance Bicycle has there Endurox R4 for Large 39.99 and small24.99 need to work on those prices.

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I suspect his prices are in Canadian dollars which traded today for 1.62 American so for us in Canada the $40 Performance price is $64.80

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Bob Performance Bicycle has there Endurox R4 for Large 39.99 and small24.99 need to work on those prices.

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I’m contemplating a potential move to St Paul.  Although it is a relatively minor consideration in my calculus of whether or not to accept the job, I’m concerned about what the local tri scene is like; re the number, type, and quality of local races, triathlon oriented shops, clubs, etc.  I’m also curious about how locals handle winter bike training (how low can you go, temperature wise?), especially when trying to prepare for an early season long course race.   I’m a native midwesterner, but I’ve lived in the south for the last 12 years and not sure how easy it will be reacclimate when it comes to winter training.

Check out "www.mntriclub.com" for the answers to many of your questions. In short, the Twin Cities are a great place to be for triathletes. -Harold

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There are probably a couple local races a month.  They fill up fast; one has to plan ahead and register at least a month in advance for some.  There also are some races that are not local but within 2-4 hours driving distance in Duluth and Grand Rapids.   Most races are sprint or international distance. This year there was one half-Ironman distance race, which was yesterday. Triathlon oriented shops – situation isn’t great, there really is only one and it’s way out in the western suburbs (not convenient for me given that I live northeast).  There are many good bike shops & running stores, so the only time I’ve had to make the trip to that store was when I decided to buy a wetsuit recently. Winter bike training  :-p  I personally have trouble keeping my feet warm in any temperatures below 35-40 degrees…and am not real fond of riding my bike indoors on the trainer.  So I switch over to cross country skiing during the winter.  I feel that mentally, it’s good to take a break anyway. For the last three years I’ve done a spring trip to Texas in mid-March to go bike riding.  This year I had ridden a grand total of 13 miles outdoors before the trip, yet I managed to ride 75 miles the first day (granted, not at a very fast pace).  This advice probably doesn’t help you out if you want to do an early season long course race.  There ARE some hardy souls who ride their bikes all winter long, using mountain bikes when the roads and temperatures are at their worst.

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Hi everyone; I’m contemplating a potential move to St Paul.  Although it is a relatively minor consideration in my calculus of whether or not to accept the job, I’m concerned about what the local tri scene is like; re the number, type, and quality of local races, triathlon oriented shops, clubs, etc.  I’m also curious about how locals handle winter bike training (how low can you go, temperature wise?), especially when trying to prepare for an early season long course race.   I’m a native midwesterner, but I’ve lived in the south for the last 12 years and not sure how easy it will be reacclimate when it comes to winter training. Marty

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Radcliffe vows to continue campaign Paula Radcliffe insists she will continue her fight to expose drug cheats in athletics. The British runner knows her campaign is dangerous but says she will not be deterred. "There is a risk in rocking the boat and I realise that I could become a target for those who have something to hide," she said. "That will not stop me." More…. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/in_depth/2001/world_athletics/… Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web <http://www.runnersweb.com A running and Triathlon Resource Portal

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Radcliffe vows to continue campaign Paula Radcliffe insists she will continue her fight to expose drug cheats in athletics. The British runner knows her campaign is dangerous but says she will not be deterred. "There is a risk in rocking the boat and I realise that I could become a target for those who have something to hide," she said. "That will not stop me."<<

Good for her. I found it hillarious that El G. could _only_ barely break 3:31 in a timetrial-type EPO-TESTED WC 1500 final when he has no trouble running 4-5 seconds faster at the invitational meets… More…. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/in_depth/2001/world_athletics/…

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What was #1? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you think watching is fun, try jumping in the water from a perfectly sound watercraft, getting to Alcatraz and then swimming to shore I did it back in 92 as my first tri. It surely got me hooked on the sport. It was definately the second best tri I’ve ever done.  It’s a must do.  Good luck! — Thanks Chris Davis "Life shrinks or expands in relation to one’s courage"  Anais Nin http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html I enjoyed the race but what was that awful rock video bit in the middle? Was that some kind of promotional throw-in by "friends of the producer", or what? It made me cringe!!! Otherwise, that sure looks a tough race, especially with that 400-stair climb near the end. Who’s done Alcatraz here?

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What was #1?

Well there is just no experience like crossing the finish line on Alii Drive so I suspect it will always be IMH 96. For me the greatest rewards are a  result of overcoming the greatest obstacles. — Thanks Chris Davis "Life shrinks or expands in relation to one’s courage"  Anais Nin http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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I too enjoyed the coverage apart from that video. It reminded me of our own local hard course, Blaenavon. What is the date of the Alactraz tri, next year.

It should be early June.  Note there is another Alcatraz event with a bit more running in August.  Applications for the June Escape opened to non returning types on Dec 1 last year and sold out in 2 weeks.  If you’re thinking about it, I’d look at the tricalifornia.com web site in November.   — Rec.scuba strokes pics page: www.jor.com/strokes Aquashot page: www.jor.com/dive/aquashot

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If you think watching is fun, try jumping in the water from a perfectly sound watercraft, getting to Alcatraz and then swimming to shore I did it back in 92 as my first tri. It surely got me hooked on the sport. It was definately the second best tri I’ve ever done.  It’s a must do.  Good luck! — Thanks Chris Davis "Life shrinks or expands in relation to one’s courage"  Anais Nin http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I enjoyed the race but what was that awful rock video bit in the middle? Was that some kind of promotional throw-in by "friends of the producer", or what? It made me cringe!!! Otherwise, that sure looks a tough race, especially with that 400-stair climb near the end. Who’s done Alcatraz here?

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I enjoyed the race but what was that awful rock video bit in the middle? Was that some kind of promotional throw-in by "friends of the producer", or what? It made me cringe!!! Otherwise, that sure looks a tough race, especially with that 400-stair climb near the end. Who’s done Alcatraz here?

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I enjoyed the race but what was that awful rock video bit in the middle? Was that some kind of promotional throw-in by "friends of the producer", or what? It made me cringe!!! Otherwise, that sure looks a tough race, especially with that 400-stair climb near the end. Who’s done Alcatraz here?

I too enjoyed the coverage apart from that video. It reminded me of our own local hard course, Blaenavon. What is the date of the Alactraz tri, next year.

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 Has anyone here weighed an apple to see what a 4 oz apple looks like?  It’s *tiny*. However, even if I needed two hands to lift it, I would still count any apple as a point!

I now weigh apples – since I have started putting on weight – and I am very partial to apples. I recommend Jonah Gold at present – though you will be faced with at least a 3 pointer! As Morecambe and Wise used to say "You don’t get many of *those* to the pound!" (but they weren’t referring to apples).

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I do envy you Diane!  Congratulations! That mini triathlon sounds like it would be fun (I think!) )) — Linda from Edmonton, Alberta Canada 204.4/183.8/(min goal #4 180) 155 916 mile club – 35.82/916

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised. My WW goal weight is 150.  It’s been a long time since I’ve been below that "magic" number when I can move the *large* weight over on the doctor’s scale.  Being at 146 is almost like a dream.  I honestly don’t remember ever being this low for more than a weekend. But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. I have been running some nights.  Not a lot and certainly not enough to get to the point where I’ll be ready to train for the Marine Corps Marathon this year.  It’s just not enough of a habit yet.  I guess I’ll need to find another goal. Has anyone ever heard of the Danskin Women’s Triathlons?  They do about 6 across the country every year.  They are specifically designed for beginners (1/2mile swim, 11 mile bike, 5K run).  A professional female triathlete runs the course and is the last one across the finish line, so you’re guarenteed not to come in last.  The closest one for me is in Massachusetts in July.  Maybe I’ll do that.  Of course, that would mean I have to buy a bike and find a place to swim. Yesterday I spoke to my local WW about working as a leader.  They’re in the middle of a training course right now, so I wouldn’t start for a while.  I’m looking forward to doing that and will let you all know how it goes. More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured. Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. Okay, I guess that’s it.  I’m doing some work avoidance, because we’re swamped and I’m just in over my head right now.  Oh, yes, my monitor blew out last night.  I reached to turn it on and got an electric shock (my place is very dry and static-y).  Then it just would not turn on.  *sigh* Of course I couldn’t reach tech support last night because it’s not like I keep their numbers handy. I usually just look them up on the web, but with no monitor…. Hope everyone else is doing well!  I haven’t been able to read through everything or respond to much.  Welcome to all the new folks, this place made the difference for me! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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It’s not a dream Diane – it’s reality and you deserve every accolade and congratulations. I can’t wait until I get into those 140’s. — ~ ~ Rocki ~ ~ S. Devon,  U.K. 219/158/140 Total Lost : 63 lbs Final Dream Goal :133 "If you believe – you can achieve"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised. My WW goal weight is 150.  It’s been a long time since I’ve been below that "magic" number when I can move the *large* weight over on the doctor’s scale.  Being at 146 is almost like a dream.  I honestly don’t remember ever being this low for more than a weekend. But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. I have been running some nights.  Not a lot and certainly not enough to get to the point where I’ll be ready to train for the Marine Corps Marathon this year.  It’s just not enough of a habit yet.  I guess I’ll need to find another goal. Has anyone ever heard of the Danskin Women’s Triathlons?  They do about 6 across the country every year.  They are specifically designed for beginners (1/2mile swim, 11 mile bike, 5K run).  A professional female triathlete runs the course and is the last one across the finish line, so you’re guarenteed not to come in last.  The closest one for me is in Massachusetts in July.  Maybe I’ll do that.  Of course, that would mean I have to buy a bike and find a place to swim. Yesterday I spoke to my local WW about working as a leader.  They’re in the middle of a training course right now, so I wouldn’t start for a while.  I’m looking forward to doing that and will let you all know how it goes. More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured. Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. Okay, I guess that’s it.  I’m doing some work avoidance, because we’re swamped and I’m just in over my head right now.  Oh, yes, my monitor blew out last night.  I reached to turn it on and got an electric shock (my place is very dry and static-y).  Then it just would not turn on.  *sigh* Of course I couldn’t reach tech support last night because it’s not like I keep their numbers handy. I usually just look them up on the web, but with no monitor…. Hope everyone else is doing well!  I haven’t been able to read through everything or respond to much.  Welcome to all the new folks, this place made the difference for me! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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Congratulations,  Sara – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised. My WW goal weight is 150.  It’s been a long time since I’ve been below that "magic" number when I can move the *large* weight over on the doctor’s scale.  Being at 146 is almost like a dream.  I honestly don’t remember ever being this low for more than a weekend. But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. I have been running some nights.  Not a lot and certainly not enough to get to the point where I’ll be ready to train for the Marine Corps Marathon this year.  It’s just not enough of a habit yet.  I guess I’ll need to find another goal. Has anyone ever heard of the Danskin Women’s Triathlons?  They do about 6 across the country every year.  They are specifically designed for beginners (1/2mile swim, 11 mile bike, 5K run).  A professional female triathlete runs the course and is the last one across the finish line, so you’re guarenteed not to come in last.  The closest one for me is in Massachusetts in July.  Maybe I’ll do that.  Of course, that would mean I have to buy a bike and find a place to swim. Yesterday I spoke to my local WW about working as a leader.  They’re in the middle of a training course right now, so I wouldn’t start for a while.  I’m looking forward to doing that and will let you all know how it goes. More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured. Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. Okay, I guess that’s it.  I’m doing some work avoidance, because we’re swamped and I’m just in over my head right now.  Oh, yes, my monitor blew out last night.  I reached to turn it on and got an electric shock (my place is very dry and static-y).  Then it just would not turn on.  *sigh* Of course I couldn’t reach tech support last night because it’s not like I keep their numbers handy. I usually just look them up on the web, but with no monitor…. Hope everyone else is doing well!  I haven’t been able to read through everything or respond to much.  Welcome to all the new folks, this place made the difference for me! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised.

Congratulations! I don’t know why surprise or guilt should be involved – you obviously know what you are doing, and you are clearly sticking to the program. <some snippage here But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)

Audrey Hepburn was underweight because she had lived through near starvation during the war in the Netherlands. She was the Kate Moss/Calista Flockhart/Twiggy of her generation and not a role model that a healthy woman should seek to emulate. In my humble opinion.  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more.

Maybe *being* healthy is more important than *looking* healthy? <more snippage here More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured.

That is a realisation that has come to me too! You are doing better than I am. Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM.

The point being that these are portion controlled and therefore less likely to push one over points – unlike, say, icecream, where a "scoop" is a notoriously vague concept. I suppose that’s why so many of these diet program rely on portion controlled packaged food. Maybe the airline caterers could add them as a side line. Or perhaps they have. — Stephen Rees Richmond BC, Canada to reply by email take off yer boots 204.8/165.4/164

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You have to be sooooo proud of your accomplishments!  I am almost envious, but too busy being happy for you!  : ) I admire your goal of making exercise a habit.  You will truly get so much enjoyment out of either goal or goals you set….the marathon, or the triathlons.  Maintaining is just living one’s woe. : )  That is the hard part…where one has to accept what it takes to keep what they have or want. Best and congrats!! Doe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised. My WW goal weight is 150.  It’s been a long time since I’ve been below that "magic" number when I can move the *large* weight over on the doctor’s scale.  Being at 146 is almost like a dream.  I honestly don’t remember ever being this low for more than a weekend. But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. I have been running some nights.  Not a lot and certainly not enough to get to the point where I’ll be ready to train for the Marine Corps Marathon this year.  It’s just not enough of a habit yet.  I guess I’ll need to find another goal. Has anyone ever heard of the Danskin Women’s Triathlons?  They do about 6 across the country every year.  They are specifically designed for beginners (1/2mile swim, 11 mile bike, 5K run).  A professional female triathlete runs the course and is the last one across the finish line, so you’re guarenteed not to come in last.  The closest one for me is in Massachusetts in July.  Maybe I’ll do that.  Of course, that would mean I have to buy a bike and find a place to swim. Yesterday I spoke to my local WW about working as a leader.  They’re in the middle of a training course right now, so I wouldn’t start for a while.  I’m looking forward to doing that and will let you all know how it goes. More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured. Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. Okay, I guess that’s it.  I’m doing some work avoidance, because we’re swamped and I’m just in over my head right now.  Oh, yes, my monitor blew out last night.  I reached to turn it on and got an electric shock (my place is very dry and static-y).  Then it just would not turn on.  *sigh* Of course I couldn’t reach tech support last night because it’s not like I keep their numbers handy. I usually just look them up on the web, but with no monitor…. Hope everyone else is doing well!  I haven’t been able to read through everything or respond to much.  Welcome to all the new folks, this place made the difference for me! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. Maybe *being* healthy is more important than *looking* healthy?

So true, Stephen.  Thanks for keeping me focused on what’s really important.  I so like being thin though.  It feels shallow, but I love being slim. Healthy is really what is important long term.   Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. The point being that these are portion controlled and therefore less likely to push one over points – unlike, say, icecream, where a "scoop" is a notoriously vague concept.

Yes, I like pre-packaged foods.  It’s easy with fruit as well, but you have to be careful.  Has anyone here weighed an apple to see what a 4 oz apple looks like?  It’s *tiny*.   However, even if I needed two hands to lift it, I would still count any apple as a point! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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I lost 1.8 lbs this week, which really surprised me!  Pleasantly, I assure you.  I feel a bit guilty about losing when I didn’t expect to, but looking back over the week, I really didn’t go over on points, so I really shouldn’t be so surprised. My WW goal weight is 150.  It’s been a long time since I’ve been below that "magic" number when I can move the *large* weight over on the doctor’s scale.  Being at 146 is almost like a dream.  I honestly don’t remember ever being this low for more than a weekend.   But my neck is still flabby.  I know, most folks want a flat stomach, but I want a skinny neck.  It’s just something that’s always bothered me about my looks and something I always look at in other people first.  (Audrey Hepburn had a very slim neck.)  I am out of my 20s, so I suppose I’m being a bit hard on myself.  I really can’t afford to lose yet another 5 lbs and still look healthy.  But I’m considering it.  Perhaps I just need to get to the gym more. I have been running some nights.  Not a lot and certainly not enough to get to the point where I’ll be ready to train for the Marine Corps Marathon this year.  It’s just not enough of a habit yet.  I guess I’ll need to find another goal. Has anyone ever heard of the Danskin Women’s Triathlons?  They do about 6 across the country every year.  They are specifically designed for beginners (1/2mile swim, 11 mile bike, 5K run).  A professional female triathlete runs the course and is the last one across the finish line, so you’re guarenteed not to come in last.  The closest one for me is in Massachusetts in July.  Maybe I’ll do that.  Of course, that would mean I have to buy a bike and find a place to swim. Yesterday I spoke to my local WW about working as a leader.  They’re in the middle of a training course right now, so I wouldn’t start for a while.  I’m looking forward to doing that and will let you all know how it goes.   More on my losing.  I’ve been eating at 29 points.  Since I had been maintaining at 31 points, I figured the weight would come off slowly. Well, it hasn’t.  So, is my true maintenance range higher?  Geez, this maintenance thing is more complicated than I figured.   Favorite new food: Sara Lee Chocolate-covered Cheesecake Bites.  In the frozen foods, individually wrapped.  Each one is 2 points.  YUM. Okay, I guess that’s it.  I’m doing some work avoidance, because we’re swamped and I’m just in over my head right now.  Oh, yes, my monitor blew out last night.  I reached to turn it on and got an electric shock (my place is very dry and static-y).  Then it just would not turn on.  *sigh* Of course I couldn’t reach tech support last night because it’s not like I keep their numbers handy. I usually just look them up on the web, but with no monitor…. Hope everyone else is doing well!  I haven’t been able to read through everything or respond to much.  Welcome to all the new folks, this place made the difference for me! Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/146/145

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<< Seems like you have an admirer Tricia.  ;-) More than one, I’ll bet….(I’ve been to the website too. Sigh…) KJR

We could make a movie called "Something about Tricia"  Sounds like a good plot.  And I am sure there are gobs of admirers on here. Matt

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<< Seems like you have an admirer Tricia.  ;-) More than one, I’ll bet….(I’ve been to the website too. Sigh…) KJR We could make a movie called "Something about Tricia"  Sounds like a good plot.  And I am sure there are gobs of admirers on here.

No doubt on the admirers, but I always thought the movie would be called something like "IRONHEART". Eric Pederson — "Real triathletes DRINK draft." (with apologies to TRIBABY) "Adventure racers can handle any eventuality, except the laundromat." (c) —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—

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It seems that the ITU vs WTC thing is still alive… The Sydney ITU race was re-scheduled from it’s previous September date (one that is in line with the actual date the Olympics will be run) to be the same day as IM-Australia. Hence forcing many top athletes to make a choice between the ITU and IMA. I know that Sian Welch chose ITU, but of course I have no idea if she would have done IMA otherwise. Also of note was that Natascha Badmann, the current Womens IM world champion, was in Sydney for the ITU race… while Lori Bowden was winning the IM up at Forster on the same day. Again, there is absolutely no suggestion that a head-to-head was likely at IMA, but the ITU scheduling helped make sure it wouldn’t happen. Les McDonald can’t be taken seriously about any sort of consolidation with WTC whilst his group continues to pull (or at least condone) spiteful stunts like this. — MB. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Being backed up on my tri mag reading again (what else is new??), I only just now read the article in the May issue of Inside Triathlon regarding TriCanada honoring its athletes for their 1998 performances (page 8, "Amid Disagreement, Tri’Canada Honors Athletes"). True to form, dear old Les McDonald, President of both the beloved ITU and TriCanada, spoke out of both sides of his mouth.  On the one hand, he professes, "One of my dreams has been to consolidate [with the World Triathlon Corporation (i.e., Ironman)] from the beginning, but other people got in the way who didn’t believe in that dream, but it has been my dream from the beginning."  Now why did he feel the need to repeat himself like that? Anyway, then on the other hand, he completely ignored the star presentees of the evening, Peter Reid and Lori Bowden, wasting his breath instead upon lamenting Canada’s lack of short-course (i.e., Olympic) talent. From the article: ‘In his speech, he made no mention of the performances of the Canadian Ironman athletes as he lamented Canada’s lack of world-class short-course talent.  "The trouble is, we don’t have any athletes at the top level. We desperately need some world-class athletes."’ Clearly, to McDonald, only those athletes who race in the ITU’s travesty of triathlon "count".  How can the man ignore athletes like Reid, Bowden, Fuhr, and Spooner, and then profess a "dream" of consolidation? Whatever. — Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips: http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dictionary de Less: Consolidation-  Combination; consumption (as in "the better organized was consumed in the process"); forceful takeover; absorption (as in " the differences were absorbed in the new organism, which took on the features of the  more aggressive organism"); eat; digest; reduce to a memory; change history so that there are no memories. Iron what? I believe this is the phrase you’re searching for: "You… will be assimilated.  Your distinctiveness will be added to our own.  Resistance is futile." True, I can clearly picture Less as one of the Borg drones. He definitely has their motive.

I can see it now . . . ‘I am LessClueLess of B.ORG (bigger.org) . . . ‘

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<< Seems like you have an admirer Tricia.  ;-) More than one, I’ll bet….(I’ve been to the website too. Sigh…) KJR

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Tricia Richter writes True to form, dear old Les McDonald, President of both the beloved ITU and TriCanada, spoke out of both sides of his mouth. <snip Clearly, to McDonald, only those athletes who race in the ITU’s travesty of triathlon "count".  How can the man ignore athletes like Reid, Bowden, Fuhr, and Spooner, and then profess a "dream" of consolidation? Whatever.

Tribaby you make me hot when you talk politics. Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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Tricia, A correction: 1. Les MacDonald is not the President of Triathlon Canada. He is a Past President. The Current Triathlon Canada President is Bill Hallet Steve Fleck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Being backed up on my tri mag reading again (what else is new??), I only just now read the article in the May issue of Inside Triathlon regarding TriCanada honoring its athletes for their 1998 performances (page 8, "Amid Disagreement, Tri’Canada Honors Athletes"). True to form, dear old Les McDonald, President of both the beloved ITU and TriCanada, spoke out of both sides of his mouth.  On the one hand, he professes, "One of my dreams has been to consolidate [with the World Triathlon Corporation (i.e., Ironman)] from the beginning, but other people got in the way who didn’t believe in that dream, but it has been my dream from the beginning."  Now why did he feel the need to repeat himself like that? Anyway, then on the other hand, he completely ignored the star presentees of the evening, Peter Reid and Lori Bowden, wasting his breath instead upon lamenting Canada’s lack of short-course (i.e., Olympic) talent.  From the article: ‘In his speech, he made no mention of the performances of the Canadian Ironman athletes as he lamented Canada’s lack of world-class short-course talent.  "The trouble is, we don’t have any athletes at the top level.  We desperately need some world-class athletes."’ Clearly, to McDonald, only those athletes who race in the ITU’s travesty of triathlon "count".  How can the man ignore athletes like Reid, Bowden, Fuhr, and Spooner, and then profess a "dream" of consolidation? Whatever. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Tribaby you make me hot when you talk politics.

What’s this about her needing to talk politics?  Are you one foot in the grave?

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Tricia, A correction: 1. Les MacDonald is not the President of Triathlon Canada. He is a Past President. The Current Triathlon Canada President is Bill Hallet

Ooops!  Thanks for the correction, Steve.  I imagine a lot of Canucks are happy about this! — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Tribaby you make me hot when you talk politics. What’s this about her needing to talk politics?  Are you one foot in the grave?

Ah, but you forget, Mr. Wagner, Gary has actually seen me in the (abundant) flesh.  With this in mind, the need for additional stimulus is understandable. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Tribaby you make me hot when you talk politics. What’s this about her needing to talk politics?  Are you one foot in the grave? Ah, but you forget, Mr. Wagner, Gary has actually seen me in the (abundant) flesh.  With this in mind, the need for additional stimulus is understandable.

Tricia, there you go again with the self deprecation.  Your website has more than enough pictures for me to claim sound mind and adequate consideration in my ardent appreciation.  You can talk about anything you want, and have my attention.  The only concession I will make to Gary’s perspective is my relentless envy!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tribaby you make me hot when you talk politics. What’s this about her needing to talk politics?  Are you one foot in the grave? Ah, but you forget, Mr. Wagner, Gary has actually seen me in the (abundant) flesh.  With this in mind, the need for additional stimulus is understandable. Tricia, there you go again with the self deprecation.  Your website has more than enough pictures for me to claim sound mind and adequate consideration in my ardent appreciation.  You can talk about anything you want, and have my attention.  The only concession I will make to Gary’s perspective is my relentless envy!

Seems like you have an admirer Tricia.  ;-) Iron Pete "tongue in cheek" Priolo

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Dictionary de Less: Consolidation-  Combination; consumption (as in "the better organized was consumed in the process"); forceful takeover; absorption (as in " the differences were absorbed in the new organism, which took on the features of the  more aggressive organism"); eat; digest; reduce to a memory; change history so that there are no memories. Iron what? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems that the ITU vs WTC thing is still alive… The Sydney ITU race was re-scheduled from it’s previous September date (one that is in line with the actual date the Olympics will be run) to be the same day as IM-Australia. Hence forcing many top athletes to make a choice between the ITU and IMA. I know that Sian Welch chose ITU, but of course I have no idea if she would have done IMA otherwise. Also of note was that Natascha Badmann, the current Womens IM world champion, was in Sydney for the ITU race… while Lori Bowden was winning the IM up at Forster on the same day. Again, there is absolutely no suggestion that a head-to-head was likely at IMA, but the ITU scheduling helped make sure it wouldn’t happen. Les McDonald can’t be taken seriously about any sort of consolidation with WTC whilst his group continues to pull (or at least condone) spiteful stunts like this. — MB. Being backed up on my tri mag reading again (what else is new??), I only just now read the article in the May issue of Inside Triathlon regarding TriCanada honoring its athletes for their 1998 performances (page 8, "Amid Disagreement, Tri’Canada Honors Athletes"). True to form, dear old Les McDonald, President of both the beloved ITU and TriCanada, spoke out of both sides of his mouth.  On the one hand, he professes, "One of my dreams has been to consolidate [with the World Triathlon Corporation (i.e., Ironman)] from the beginning, but other people got in the way who didn’t believe in that dream, but it has been my dream from the beginning."  Now why did he feel the need to repeat himself like that? Anyway, then on the other hand, he completely ignored the star presentees of the evening, Peter Reid and Lori Bowden, wasting his breath instead upon lamenting Canada’s lack of short-course (i.e., Olympic) talent. From the article: ‘In his speech, he made no mention of the performances of the Canadian Ironman athletes as he lamented Canada’s lack of world-class short-course talent.  "The trouble is, we don’t have any athletes at the top level. We desperately need some world-class athletes."’ Clearly, to McDonald, only those athletes who race in the ITU’s travesty of triathlon "count".  How can the man ignore athletes like Reid, Bowden, Fuhr, and Spooner, and then profess a "dream" of consolidation? Whatever. — Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips: http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

=== Eric.com Pederson Real triathletes DRINK draft. (c) Adventure racers are prepared for any challenge, except the laundromat. (c) Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Dictionary de Less: Consolidation-  Combination; consumption (as in "the better organized was consumed in the process"); forceful takeover; absorption (as in " the differences were absorbed in the new organism, which took on the features of the  more aggressive organism"); eat; digest; reduce to a memory; change history so that there are no memories. Iron what?

I believe this is the phrase you’re searching for: "You… will be assimilated.  Your distinctiveness will be added to our own.  Resistance is futile."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dictionary de Less: Consolidation-  Combination; consumption (as in "the better organized was consumed in the process"); forceful takeover; absorption (as in " the differences were absorbed in the new organism, which took on the features of the  more aggressive organism"); eat; digest; reduce to a memory; change history so that there are no memories. Iron what? I believe this is the phrase you’re searching for: "You… will be assimilated.  Your distinctiveness will be added to our own.  Resistance is futile."

True, I can clearly picture Less as one of the Borg drones. He definitely has their motive.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Being backed up on my tri mag reading again (what else is new??), I only just now read the article in the May issue of Inside Triathlon regarding TriCanada honoring its athletes for their 1998 performances (page 8, "Amid Disagreement, Tri’Canada Honors Athletes"). True to form, dear old Les McDonald, President of both the beloved ITU and TriCanada, spoke out of both sides of his mouth.  On the one hand, he professes, "One of my dreams has been to consolidate [with the World Triathlon Corporation (i.e., Ironman)] from the beginning, but other people got in the way who didn’t believe in that dream, but it has been my dream from the beginning."  Now why did he feel the need to repeat himself like that? Anyway, then on the other hand, he completely ignored the star presentees of the evening, Peter Reid and Lori Bowden, wasting his breath instead upon lamenting Canada’s lack of short-course (i.e., Olympic) talent.  From the article: ‘In his speech, he made no mention of the performances of the Canadian Ironman athletes as he lamented Canada’s lack of world-class short-course talent.  "The trouble is, we don’t have any athletes at the top level.  We desperately need some world-class athletes."’ Clearly, to McDonald, only those athletes who race in the ITU’s travesty of triathlon "count".  How can the man ignore athletes like Reid, Bowden, Fuhr, and Spooner, and then profess a "dream" of consolidation? Whatever. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Does anyone out there know of a triathlon club/team in Toronto, any possible training partners in the greater Toronto area, or any triathlon contacts in Toronto? I am transferring to Glendon College of York University as a second year student (from Miami of Ohio).  Glendon is on the corner of Bayview and Lawrence avenues in downtown Toronto.  Glendon’s campus has a athletic centre (25 YARD pool nonetheless!) so hopefully finding adequate training facilities won’t be necessary, but I’m open to suggestions. Happy New Year to everyone on RST !! Sincerely, The American-born Canadian Matt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone out there know of a triathlon club/team in Toronto, any possible training partners in the greater Toronto area, or any triathlon contacts in Toronto? I am transferring to Glendon College of York University as a second year student (from Miami of Ohio).  Glendon is on the corner of Bayview and Lawrence avenues in downtown Toronto.  Glendon’s campus has a athletic centre (25 YARD pool nonetheless!) so hopefully finding adequate training facilities won’t be necessary, but I’m open to suggestions. Happy New Year to everyone on RST !! Sincerely, The American-born Canadian Matt

Matt, Glendon College is a great place in the city to be located. There is a great indoor 25m pool there and you will have direct access to perhaps the best running trails in the city in the Sunnybrook/Edwards Gardens park networks. From the front door of the athletic complex at Glendon you could conceivably go for a 15 – 20 mile run all in the parks following the various ravine networks of the Don River and never have to run on a real road. There are hills and flats what ever you want. Great off road trails to. However, I have heard that you can have some nasty run ins with Mtn Bikers these days. As for cycling, well everything is not perfect. Years ago, you could head straight north on Bayview and in about 20 min be out of the city. Now the suburbs just seem to go on forever. Toronto is a big sprawling city. Tough to say where it is best to ride. North of the city there is some great cycling, but you have to ride about an hour to get there. Inner city cycling is tough. I used to make up  little loops and do the hills in and around Glendon College itself.The access road to the pool and the dead-end of Lawrence Ave. East are tough/hard short climbs. With respect to clubs, I have no idea the specifics. However I am sure that there are clubs. I moved out of Toronto in 1992. There may even be one out of Glendon.Try a query on the Ironman Canada website – www.ironman.ca Best of luck Steve Fleck

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I run 8-10 minute miles, distance 3-10 miles, sometimes do races (5K to marathon distance).  Planning a triathlon sometime in the next year or two.  I am in the Hillcrest and Kensington areas, and would like someone to run with on a regular or semi regular basis.  I’m 36, male, and pretty easy to get along with.  Email if interested. Wayne

Wayne, Come down to the Marathon Clinic on Sunday mornings at 8 AM.  We meet at DeAnza Cove.   Take 5 N. to East Mission Bay/Claremont Dr.  Left over the bridge and get into the right hand land.  At the Stop sign turn right.  Go to next stop sign and take a left into that parking lot.  If you took a right you’d be back on the freeway or headed into PB via E.Mission Bay. If you have any questions, give me a call,   281-7447 — In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer – rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975 (Mindful Running) http://www.mindfulness.com

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I run 8-10 minute miles, distance 3-10 miles, sometimes do races (5K to marathon distance).  Planning a triathlon sometime in the next year or two.  I am in the Hillcrest and Kensington areas, and would like someone to run with on a regular or semi regular basis.  I’m 36, male, and pretty easy to get along with.  Email if interested. Wayne

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got an email this morning from Tracy K. at the Ironman Office… There will be no pro qualifier slots for the ‘97 Ironman Triathlon WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS awarded at the ‘97 St. Anthony’s race. (They had 5 slots last year.) Floof.  Floof.  FLOOF!  The flames just got bigger on this drafting wildfire debate. Interesting tidbit, Augie.  Wonder what it means… -Rolf — Some call me Rolf…                             I tri…                                                  Looking to 1997…  IMC ‘94 – 14:06:47    IMC ‘95 – 11:58:35        IMC ‘97 – 10:45:00

Yippee! I was hoping WTC would do exactly that. My thanks to Augie for providing the news. Now if we could get WTC to make an official statement on the net and in tri publications….hmmm. Bernie Sher

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I got an email this morning from Tracy K. at the Ironman Office… There will be no pro qualifier slots for the ‘97 Ironman Triathlon WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS awarded at the ‘97 St. Anthony’s race. (They had 5 slots last year.)

Ahhhh, there IS justice in the world…. John (Good to see somebody has a backbone) K.

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I got an email this morning from Tracy K. at the Ironman Office… There will be no pro qualifier slots for the ‘97 Ironman Triathlon WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS awarded at the ‘97 St. Anthony’s race. (They had 5 slots last year.)

I believe they (St. Anth.) were supposed to have 5 slots, but now there are none (gee, I wonder why?).  Wildflower now magically has 15 (was 12). Hmmmm….makes one wonder.   — Marty Miller Proprietor of The Triathlete’s Web http://w3.one.net/~triweb

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I got an email this morning from Tracy K. at the Ironman Office…       There will be no pro qualifier slots for the ‘97 Ironman Triathlon WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS awarded at the ‘97 St. Anthony’s race. (They had 5 slots last year.) Augie Calabrese

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I got an email this morning from Tracy K. at the Ironman Office…   There will be no pro qualifier slots for the ‘97 Ironman Triathlon WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS awarded at the ‘97 St. Anthony’s race. (They had 5 slots last year.)

Floof.  Floof.  FLOOF!  The flames just got bigger on this drafting wildfire debate.   Interesting tidbit, Augie.  Wonder what it means… -Rolf — Some call me Rolf…                             I tri…                                                  Looking to 1997…  IMC ‘94 – 14:06:47    IMC ‘95 – 11:58:35        IMC ‘97 – 10:45:00

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As a bonafide certified triathlete, I have often forgotten to think about racing strategy while running.  This weekend, I tried it.     In my last race as a 29 year-old (in my home town, no less) I decided to consider using a strategy during the race.  What a concept.  

Strategy?  In running?  !!!!! Geez, and all this time I’ve been thinking that the only strategy there was to running was remaining upright until you crossed the finish line! Anybody who has the strength and presence of mind/body to actually strategize on the run is, as far as I’m concerned, an athletic god/goddess. Congratulations, Rolf!  Good job. Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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