If you’re competing eat more, and drop the swimming/biking. -Adam (sorry for top posting)
Hi Adam- Won’t that make the triathlon a little more difficult???
If you’re competing eat more, and drop the swimming/biking. -Adam (sorry for top posting) Whats the deal with that?
What’s the deal with what? -Adam
If you’re competing eat more, and drop the swimming/biking. -Adam (sorry for top posting) Whats the deal with that? What’s the deal with what? -Adam
Always top posting,then apologizing.
Always top posting,then apologizing.
I did it twice in my life, because I didn’t want to bother snipping. -Adam (next time, email a question like this)
Always top posting,then apologizing. I did it twice in my life, because I didn’t want to bother snipping. -Adam (next time, email a question like this)
My bad,thought you were doing it all the time
Matt said… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll leave the training and running critiquing to others. On the food side however I’ll give some input. When loosing weigth you should not be eating anything different than what you plan on eating after you get to your goal weight. If you constantly are feeling that you are denying yourself something you want eventually you will breakdown and eat it. The key to loosing and maintaining weight is being satisfied with what your eating. You stated you "Allow" yourself a "Cheat" meal. This would indicate that the meal you eat is somehow bad. If you were to ask someone who never had a weight problem if they have ever eaten a "cheat" meal I believe the majority of the time the answer would be no. You can eat whatever you want you just can’t eat 4000 calories of it. I’m not suggesting that you quite eating healthy food but don’t deny yourself everthing you want. Just don’t eat so much of it. I would also suggest at the level you are working out you need to increase your caloric intake. Loose the weight slower, change your eating mentality and keep excersing and your guaranteed to succeed.
Excellent post, Matt. Speaking as someone who has never had a "cheat meal" and has stayed within a 12 pound weight range for 32 years, you’re absolutely right. Carrie is limiting calories (carbs, in particular) and has an aggressive exercise regimen. I don’t believe the two together are sustainable in the long run — something’s gonna give. She’s pulling about 6 X 1,000 kcal in extra burn per week plus building muscle which requires more fuel at rest. The body never really tells the brain, "Feed me — I’m totally out of gas." Instead, you get the flu. Or you "just don’t feel like working out today". Or you fall asleep at work. Or you get headaches. Eat often. Eat small. Eat good things. Never eat anything that comes in cellophane (except granola bars and fig newtons). Never drink anything that is carbonated (except a tall beer AFTER a 60 mile ride). Carrie — you will have NO problem with that sprint tri, even if it were held tomorrow! Enjoy it! — Mark
If you’re competing eat more, and drop the swimming/biking. -Adam (sorry for top posting)
Whats the deal with that?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi all- I have enjoyed reading both of these groups and thought that you would best be able to impart some of your wisdom on me as I continue down my path to optimum fitness and health. I am a 26 y/o woman, who is training for a sprint triathlon in May, leading up to longer distances in the fall. I am also looking to lose around 25 pounds, right now I am about 165 and 5′6", with a medium build. As far as diet goes, I have been keeping a food journal for the past month, and I have been eating around 1500 cal/day. I have been watching my carb intake, and trying to incorporate more protein and good fats (olive oil, nuts, etc.) into my diet. A typical day is peanut butter toast for bfast; a banana around 10 or 11; a big salad with chicken breast and low-fat dressings and cheese and maybe a yogurt or something for lunch; a Luna bar (around 170-180 cals) around 3; and either chicken, fish or beef with steamed veggies and rice or a sweet potato or cous cous or something similar for dinner. I drink at least doing a gallon of water a day, and I have been taking an ECA stack (stacker2) with bfast. I do allow myself one "cheat" meal a week of whatever I have been craving, be it a big sub with mayo or chinese food.
I’ll leave the training and running critiquing to others. On the food side however I’ll give some input. When loosing weigth you should not be eating anything different than what you plan on eating after you get to your goal weight. If you constantly are feeling that you are denying yourself something you want eventually you will breakdown and eat it. The key to loosing and maintaining weight is being satisfied with what your eating. You stated you "Allow" yourself a "Cheat" meal. This would indicate that the meal you eat is somehow bad. If you were to ask someone who never had a weight problem if they have ever eaten a "cheat" meal I believe the majority of the time the answer would be no. You can eat whatever you want you just can’t eat 4000 calories of it. I’m not suggesting that you quite eating healthy food but don’t deny yourself everthing you want. Just don’t eat so much of it. I would also suggest at the level you are working out you need to increase your caloric intake. Loose the weight slower, change your eating mentality and keep excersing and your guaranteed to succeed. ~Matt
I have enjoyed reading both of these groups and thought that you would best be able to impart some of your wisdom on me as I continue down my path to optimum fitness and health. I am a 26 y/o woman, who is training for a sprint triathlon in May, leading up to longer distances in the fall. I am also looking to lose around 25 pounds, right now I am about 165 and 5′6", with a medium build.
JPEG’s please. -Scott Johnson "Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are why they only open the top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen
If you’re competing eat more, and drop the swimming/biking. -Adam (sorry for top posting)
Hi all- I have enjoyed reading both of these groups and thought that you would best be able to impart some of your wisdom on me as I continue down my path to optimum fitness and health. I am a 26 y/o woman, who is training for a sprint triathlon in May, leading up to longer distances in the fall. I am also looking to lose around 25 pounds, right now I am about 165 and 5′6", with a medium build.
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I have enjoyed reading both of these groups and thought that you would best be able to impart some of your wisdom on me as I continue down my path to optimum fitness and health. I am a 26 y/o woman, who is training for a sprint triathlon in May, leading up to longer distances in the fall. I am also looking to lose around 25 pounds, right now I am about 165 and 5′6", with a medium build. As far as diet goes, I have been keeping a food journal for the past month, and I have been eating around 1500 cal/day. I have been
—This caloric intake is probably good, with a decent amount of aerobic exercise you can lose weight well on this plan. watching my carb intake, and trying to incorporate more protein and good fats (olive oil, nuts, etc.) into my diet. A typical day is peanut butter toast for bfast; a banana around 10 or 11; a big salad
—Try jam on your toast unless the PB is non-fat. Most PB is pretty high in fat and should be avoided when you’re trying to shave weight. with chicken breast and low-fat dressings and cheese and maybe a yogurt or something for lunch; a Luna bar (around 170-180 cals) around 3; and either chicken, fish or beef with steamed veggies and rice or a sweet potato or cous cous or something similar for dinner. I drink at least doing a gallon of water a day, and I have been taking an ECA
—A GALLON??? Decent water intake is good but I run 60-100 miles a week and don’teven approach that intake unless it’s 90F outside. Too much fluid can flush water-soluble vitamins out of your system and actually hurt you. stack (stacker2) with bfast. I do allow myself one "cheat" meal a
—IMHO, these metabolic enhancers are a very bad idea, expecially for athletes. I’m not convinced your body is going to recover correctly when you are artificially revving it up all the time. Proper diet and exercise are very effective at weight control and you have no need to take this risk. You’re not truly obese or anything, so why stress your body and take chances like this? week of whatever I have been craving, be it a big sub with mayo or chinese food.
—Gotta do this to stay sane 
Mon/Wed/Fri 10 mins on Stairmaster to warm up 40 mins of lifting, I do a total body routine most days, but sometimes skip lifting legs since they are getting quite the workout with everything I am doing. Since I run on those days, if I lift too much my legs are too fatigued to put in what I really need.
—Might want to split lifing into muscle group-specific days to hit those muscles harder and increase rate of fitness gain. 45 mins of running on Mon & Fri, about 4.25-4.5 miles on those days 30 mins of running on Wed, then I do speed intervals to work on improving my speed Tu/Thur 30 mins swim 30 mins bike
—Might want more time on the bike. For me, biking helps running more than running helps biking. My big question is around cardio, am I doing too much? Or should I
—No….Not if you feel that your body is handling it fine. Andy Hass
Hi all- I have enjoyed reading both of these groups and thought that you would best be able to impart some of your wisdom on me as I continue down my path to optimum fitness and health. I am a 26 y/o woman, who is training for a sprint triathlon in May, leading up to longer distances in the fall. I am also looking to lose around 25 pounds, right now I am about 165 and 5′6", with a medium build. As far as diet goes, I have been keeping a food journal for the past month, and I have been eating around 1500 cal/day. I have been watching my carb intake, and trying to incorporate more protein and good fats (olive oil, nuts, etc.) into my diet. A typical day is peanut butter toast for bfast; a banana around 10 or 11; a big salad with chicken breast and low-fat dressings and cheese and maybe a yogurt or something for lunch; a Luna bar (around 170-180 cals) around 3; and either chicken, fish or beef with steamed veggies and rice or a sweet potato or cous cous or something similar for dinner. I drink at least doing a gallon of water a day, and I have been taking an ECA stack (stacker2) with bfast. I do allow myself one "cheat" meal a week of whatever I have been craving, be it a big sub with mayo or chinese food. I work out 6 days a week (most weeks, the week I went to the SuperBowl {go Pats!} was a diaster but otherwise I have been pretty consistant.) Mon/Wed/Fri 10 mins on Stairmaster to warm up 40 mins of lifting, I do a total body routine most days, but sometimes skip lifting legs since they are getting quite the workout with everything I am doing. Since I run on those days, if I lift too much my legs are too fatigued to put in what I really need. 45 mins of running on Mon & Fri, about 4.25-4.5 miles on those days 30 mins of running on Wed, then I do speed intervals to work on improving my speed Tu/Thur 30 mins swim 30 mins bike Sat whatever I feel like, but at least 30 mins of cardio, if not an hour. Usually it’s running, but sometimes I will swim or do the eliptical machine. My big question is around cardio, am I doing too much? Or should I make changes to it? I’ve been reading a lot of posts around the ECA stack, and think perhaps I may want to take a little break from it. Any other suggestions people might have would alo be greatly appreciated. My biggest goal is to finish the sprint tri in under 1:10, and right behind that is look smashing this summer in whatever it is I might decide to wear. The second part is a bonus, but not the ultimate reason why I am whipping myself into shape. Over the last year I have seen both of my parents struggle with different health issues, and they are both in their early 50’s. It had made me realize that if I don’t start getting serious about fitness, I’m looking at only another 25 good years. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to this . . . there are lots of people on here with serious knowledge about getting in shape, and I enjoy reading your advice! Carrie A little funny . . . this weekend I went into a running store looking for Body Glide, and for some reason I go up to the male clerk and ask him if he could show me where they sold the AstroGlide . . . not too embarassing!
Check the classified ads on http://www.trisportcanada.com/ i saw a P3 there. i have a P2 and love it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Hello, I am starting to save up for a new bike and am convinced to get a Cervelo. Out of the three’ P2, P2K, and P3, which is the best? Why? What have people found the liked and disliked about each? Also, if you are selling one I would be intersted in talking to you, although I am not going to buy it immediately. Thanks, Joe Braun
Hello, I am starting to save up for a new bike and am convinced to get a Cervelo. Out of the three’ P2, P2K, and P3, which is the best? Why? What have people found the liked and disliked about each? Also, if you are selling one I would be intersted in talking to you, although I am not going to buy it immediately. Thanks, Joe Braun
Hi all, Only 10 days till the Columbia Triathlon. Does anyone know of the water temps so far? I have bad memories of 2 years ago with a bad case of hypothermia from the swim. Also Temps and CURRENTS for the Eagleman course. I don’t want to swim 2 miles again like last year because of the current. Thanks, S. Zachary
I will try to check the temp tomorrow during lunch, but expect it to be on the cold side, not much to warm it up yet, but should be warmer than two years ago. Bruce Platt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Only 10 days till the Columbia Triathlon. Does anyone know of the water temps so far? I have bad memories of 2 years ago with a bad case of hypothermia from the swim. Also Temps and CURRENTS for the Eagleman course. I don’t want to swim 2 miles again like last year because of the current. Thanks, S. Zachary
The automated weather buoy at Thomas Point Lighthouse on the Chesapeake Bay is reporting a water temperature of 61.5 degrees. The Choptank River should be within a couple of degrees of that. If you want to see for yourself the URL is: http://www.nws.fsu.edu/B/buoy?station=TPLM2#table — |Jeffrey Davis | Phone 
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The Choptank is a wide, shallow estuary. It is usually much warmer than the bay, and even warmer than nearby rivers like the Tred Avon where the race first started. (Oxford) I am the first guy to complain about cold water, but I don’t think Cambridge will be a problem. It will be a nice wetsuit swim. Ray Plotecia Male Amateur, 50-54 Ruxton, MD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The automated weather buoy at Thomas Point Lighthouse on the Chesapeake Bay is reporting a water temperature of 61.5 degrees. The Choptank River should be within a couple of degrees of that. If you want to see for yourself the URL is: http://www.nws.fsu.edu/B/buoy?station=TPLM2#table — |Jeffrey Davis | Phone 410) 309-8306 | |GTE Internetworking | Fax 410) 309-8315 | |9810 Patuxent Woods Drive | |
My recent interest in triathlon has, fortunately, also caught a friend of mine. He’s in better shape than I am, and is almost ready to do his first triathlon. His internet access is out of whack right now, so he asked me to post this for him. Can anyone recommend a short-course triathlon in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area in the summer? TIA.
I highly recommend the Trisport Ontario Series. They run from late spring right into September. Their site is at: http://www.trisportcanada.com/ Augie Calabrese http://augie.calabrese.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My recent interest in triathlon has, fortunately, also caught a friend of mine. He’s in better shape than I am, and is almost ready to do his first triathlon. His internet access is out of whack right now, so he asked me to post this for him. Can anyone recommend a short-course triathlon in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area in the summer? TIA.
Paul: 1) There are no triathlons in Toronto and very few in the immediate area of Toronto. The Greater Toronto Triathlon (June 6th), for example, is in King City. You won’t find any triathlons closer. 2) Southern Ontario is blessed with a slew of triathlons. There are two big series: The Great-Lakes Multisport Series and The Subaru Triathlon Series (used to be PC Athletics Series). Both offer a bunch of really good races. It’s too bad your friend has lost his internet access because, at this time of year, there is no information available on the upcoming race season except what you find on the web sites. Race booklets will be produced but none are available yet. You can find the GLMS site at http://www.trihard.com/ and the Subaru series at http://www.trisportcanada.com/ 3) The big difference between the two series is one of attitude. The GLMS has more of a relaxed local feel to them. They don’t run big qualifying races and the atmosphere is much more relaxed. For a first-time triathlon, this is what I did and what I recommend. The Subaru runs a more serious series. They’re very professional and the atheletes competing at their events follow that example. Very rood races, very serious races. They also have better traffic control. Well, I hope this helps. Sorry to ramble. Regards, Kevin Mitchell – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -My recent interest in triathlon has, fortunately, also caught a friend of mine. He’s in better shape than I am, and is almost ready to do his first triathlon. His internet access is out of whack right now, so he asked me to post this for him. Can anyone recommend a short-course triathlon in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area in the summer? TIA.
My recent interest in triathlon has, fortunately, also caught a friend of mine. He’s in better shape than I am, and is almost ready to do his first triathlon. His internet access is out of whack right now, so he asked me to post this for him. Can anyone recommend a short-course triathlon in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area in the summer? TIA.
As previously mentioned the are two series in Southern Ontarion: The Subaru Series – http://www.trisportcanada.com – and the Great Lakes Series – http://www.trihard.com There are also several good independent races including Bala, Collingwood, and Goderich. We should have entry forms for all of them sometime in March. Dan Rishworth Enduro Sport – Canada’s Multi-Sport Pro Shop 1.800.448.4678 http://www.endurosport.com
Hi Paul, There are a couple in the PC Athletics Series. Check out www.pcathletics.com Two of the ones I found there are: The Greater Toronto Triathlon & Duathlon (Swin 1km, Bike 28km, Run 6.5km) at http://www.pcathletics.com/gt.htm The Milton Triathlon & Duathlon (Swim 1km, Bike 20km, Run 8km) at http://www.pcathletics.com/milton.htm John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My recent interest in triathlon has, fortunately, also caught a friend of mine. He’s in better shape than I am, and is almost ready to do his first triathlon. His internet access is out of whack right now, so he asked me to post this for him. Can anyone recommend a short-course triathlon in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area in the summer? TIA.
How does one do the plyometric hopping? I have a book of plyometric workouts, but it does not have hopping. It sounds simplistic, but there are a million different variations of plyometric jumping, but none of hopping. Sigh. Now how about the plyometric leg press? SERIOUS says it is a Vasa trainer workout, but I think that some bands might work. I have seen the plyo squat, but not leg press. Any one with experience? I never have done this stuff, so I really am a newby. Now the narrow stance 90% squat? Usually I have done squats at about shoulder width apart, but what’s narrow? Side by side? And 90%, is that just to above horizontal thighs? — Rob Blomquist aka TriDog Seattle, WA http://www2.jps.net/~robbo
Think "Bunny Hop", you know, the dance. It goes over BIG at the High School Track and Cross Country
Hello How does one do the plyometric hopping? I have a book of plyometric workouts, but it does not have hopping. It sounds simplistic, but there are a million different variations of plyometric jumping, but none of hopping. Sigh.
You hop. On the spot, travelling, lateral, back and forwards, upstairs, downstairs. Start with small sets and 5-10 reps. Now how about the plyometric leg press? SERIOUS says it is a Vasa trainer workout, but I think that some bands might work. I have seen the plyo squat, but not leg press. Any one with experience?
Forget it. The plyometric squat machine developed by Greg Wilson is one thing, fooling with a leg press machine is asking for trouble. Ordinary two leg jumps in various forms should be more than sufficient. Now the narrow stance 90% squat? Usually I have done squats at about shoulder width apart, but what’s narrow? Side by side? And 90%, is that just to above horizontal thighs?
The narrower the more the thighs are worked. Wider squats involve the glutes more. Cheers Hamish — Hamish Ferguson BA, Dip Sp St, Cert Coach Personal Trainer, Cycling Coach and Nutrition Student 210b Hastings St East, Christchurch 8002, New Zealand Phone 64 3 377 4463, Fax 64 3 377 4463, Mobile 025 221 1287 ICQ #12592660
BTW what are Spinervals and why are Plyos done in the middle? Plyos are a very serious form of training. No I don’t mean you have to do them with a stern look on your face, they are very physically demanding and if done incorrectly can easily cause injury. When I do plyos (for aerobics) it is when very fresh, motivated and feeling 100%.
Hamish – For spinervals check out www.coachtroy.com They are high intensity bike sessions on an indoor trainer. Probably very similar to what you would see in a spinning class down your way. Coach Troy is pretty clear in terms of technique. No bouncing, stop immediately if any pain is felt. I do plyos at the end of my weights sessions, just before abs. I would be interested in more on why you think that you have to be 100% fresh. That would be my view on squats due to the need for balance and control of several different muscle groups. On the plyos my first month was 3×15. I am now on 3×20. From about 15 onwards on each set is a lacto-fest. By the end of the last set I am barely clearing the floor. However, my recovery is pretty quick. I agree that they are very demanding and that is why I like them. gordon byrn
Hello For spinervals check out www.coachtroy.com They are high intensity bike sessions on an indoor trainer. Probably very similar to what you would see in a spinning class down your way.
Thanks. I would be interested in more on why you think that you have to be 100% fresh. That would be my view on squats due to the need for balance and control of several different muscle groups.
I mean as plyos when done correctly involve jumping, landing and immediately sprining back up. AKA "shock training (Verkoshansky)" or "stretch shortening" (most US authors) which will put a lot of stress on the muscle and loads the joints to a large extent. From two perspectives. One you would want to be fresh to make sure that the ground time between leaps is minimal. The shorter the ground time the better for power development. To prevent injury you would also want to ensure that techinique is spot on. Two good reasons for doing plyos while fresh. Other texts (Dinitiman: Training for speed) suggest never doing plyos till you can either squat 1.5 X bodyweight or leg press 2.5 X bodyweight. On the weights2 mailing list some of the people who are more informed on plyos having learnt first hands from the Russians who developed the idea (Verkoshansky) question the high rep approach to plyos anyway. They use sets of one rep aiming for maximal power as one would when doing an Olympic lift (snatch, clean and jerk, powerclean) to develop power. Otherwise you may as well do a high impact aerobics class. On the plyos my first month was 3×15. I am now on 3×20. From about 15 onwards on each set is a lacto-fest. By the end of the last set I am barely clearing the floor. However, my recovery is pretty quick. I agree that they are very demanding and that is why I like them.
Sounds like they are not real plyos although the exercise will help develop muscle endurance and more be more specific conditioning for triathlon than pure plyos which are more benficial for someone like me who does gymnastics and sport aerobics. Cheers Hamish — Hamish Ferguson BA, Dip Sp St, Cert Coach Personal Trainer, Cycling Coach and Nutrition Student 210b Hastings St East, Christchurch 8002, New Zealand Phone 64 3 377 4463, Fax 64 3 377 4463, Mobile 025 221 1287 ICQ #12592660
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello For improving performance on the bike I would be pretty skeptical of any benefit from Plyos. Cant see how eccentric loading will assist cycling which is purely concentric loading. Running may be another story yet I think sufficient overload in running can be gained through sprinting. In terms of injury prevention high rep weight training seems to be in vouge at present. BTW what are Spinervals and why are Plyos done in the middle? Plyos are a very serious form of training. No I don’t mean you have to do them with a stern look on your face, they are very physically demanding and if done incorrectly can easily cause injury. When I do plyos (for aerobics) it is when very fresh, motivated and feeling 100%. Cheers Hamish "alleged hater of 12 year old kids" Ferguson —
Mornin’ As a former triple jumper, I spent a reasonable amount of time bounding and jumping to train elastic strength (ie the ability to rebound after landing) which was fairly specific to the sport. Is there any argument for including such training in a tri programme? Would that be in addition to, or instead of traditional weight lifting? I know that elastic strength components can also be trained by chucking around light weights quickly, but I have to say that I have preference for working with bodyweight and without apparatus as much as possible. Any offers? Andy Arnold
What are people’s opinions on plyometrics in general? I use the Spinervals workouts, and they throw plyometric stuff in the middle of workouts. Are they beneficial, or would I do better to just stay in the saddle? Scott Hoffman
says… Think "Bunny Hop", you know, the dance. It goes over BIG at the High School Track and Cross Country
Bunny hop, as it heels to butt squat, with a burst up? Yikes! Rob — Rob Blomquist aka TriDog Seattle, WA http://www2.jps.net/~robbo
Hello For improving performance on the bike I would be pretty skeptical of any benefit from Plyos. Cant see how eccentric loading will assist cycling which is purely concentric loading. Running may be another story yet I think sufficient overload in running can be gained through sprinting. In terms of injury prevention high rep weight training seems to be in vouge at present. BTW what are Spinervals and why are Plyos done in the middle? Plyos are a very serious form of training. No I don’t mean you have to do them with a stern look on your face, they are very physically demanding and if done incorrectly can easily cause injury. When I do plyos (for aerobics) it is when very fresh, motivated and feeling 100%. Cheers Hamish "alleged hater of 12 year old kids" Ferguson — Hamish Ferguson BA, Dip Sp St, Cert Coach Personal Trainer, Cycling Coach and Nutrition Student 210b Hastings St East, Christchurch 8002, New Zealand Phone 64 3 377 4463, Fax 64 3 377 4463, Mobile 025 221 1287 ICQ #12592660 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are people’s opinions on plyometrics in general? I use the Spinervals workouts, and they throw plyometric stuff in the middle of workouts. Are they beneficial, or would I do better to just stay in the saddle? Scott Hoffman
Chris, welcome to Denver. If you’re south, you have direct access to the west, and the foothills/canyons. Also, Washington Park has a nice 2.2 mi loop thru it, good for maintenance rides. Downtown there are a couple pools, the YMCA, Denver Athletic Club (pricey) and Denver Place. If you ask me, north of Denver has better riding/rural areas, but like all of the metro area, it’s growing fast. Running at lunch is a favorite of mine, there are lots of places to go. Call me sometime. Steve
Steve, what part of Denver(or burbs) are you located in ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Chris, welcome to Denver. If you’re south, you have direct access to the west, and the foothills/canyons. Also, Washington Park has a nice 2.2 mi loop thru it, good for maintenance rides. Downtown there are a couple pools, the YMCA, Denver Athletic Club (pricey) and Denver Place. If you ask me, north of Denver has better riding/rural areas, but like all of the metro area, it’s growing fast. Running at lunch is a favorite of mine, there are lots of places to go. Call me sometime. Steve
Try the Tri-Altitude Multisport Club at (303)471-0512. Four coached workouts a week (includes two swimming workouts by a USAT certified triathlon coach. Mike Gordon
Chris, I’m north of Denver about 18 mi (halfway between Boulder and Denver) in a town called Broomfield. It’s a nice place Scrap Iron Steve
I’m moving to the Denver area – probably central or south/central area (Cherry Creek). Can anyone give me the lowdown on where I can cycle – even if it’s a boring loop in a park – and swim (25m pool w/ laplanes – not to crowded) in the downtown area? I’m having a little moving anxiety and need some reassurance. Thanks very much. Regards Chris Crawford
Great report Gary! However, it needed to be at least 3 times as long to reach Tri-Baby
status…. :) Hey, I think I resemble that remark… E:0 Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
Wildflower 98 Race Report
<snip-Gary’s race report Did I give it all I had? I looked at my wrist for the answer. 5:57:40!!!!! Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm
Great report, Gary & congrats! Excellent job! Chaz
Great report Gary! However, it needed to be at least 3 times as long to reach Tri-Baby status…. :) George
OUTSTANDING !!! Great report, an a very inspiring race. thanks anders SOS Survivor ‘97 Staggering and stumbling I hit the stop button on my watch. Did I make it? Was the pain all worth it? Did I suffer only to come up short? Did I give it all I had? I looked at my wrist for the answer. 5:57:40!!!!! Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm
– * For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
Wildflower 98 Race Report Driving up to Lake San Antonio my biggest concern was the weather. It was clear on Thursday but the forecast was calling for clouds and scattered showers for the weekend. My fears wear confirmed on Friday as it rained off and on all day. It had taken months to convince Carla to camp and here it was raining on our big weekend. Luckily she had a positive attitude, choosing to focus on the race and not the weather. Saturday dawned wet and cloudy and I decided that the cool temps would help me reach my goal of 6:15:00. This was my first attempt at the long course so my estimates were rough at best. I rode the bike course twice in training with a best time of 3:17 and ran the half marathon in 2:13. With a 45 minute swim, a couple of fast transitions, and a little luck I could make my goal. I set up my bike and put my bike shoes in a plastic bag to keep them dry. I put that bag on top of my run gear so that my shoes wouldn
Shea, this may seem crude but it works for me. I stop, bend over towards the side that hurts. With both hands, grab as much as your skin and innards as you can (just below the rib cage). Hold for several seconds and then resume.This may be psycological, but I feel like I’m squeezing the gas out of the painful spot. Hope it works for you. You may be able to help me now. In the first 26.2 mi. marathon, the race was from Windsor Castle to Whitecity Stadium (the king’s reviewing box was inside the stadium). Is Whitecity Stadium still in existence? If so, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts? ER, AMTV, Triathlon! http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/
it located in London? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts? ER, AMTV, Triathlon! http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts? ER, AMTV, Triathlon! http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/
– I had a running instructor in college suggest that I take one breath from the chest and the next breath from the abdomen. I have a fairly steady rhythym now, but if I start developing a stitch, I try to hold air in my abdomen longer, and work to release it very slowly; there is still pain as it slowly subsides but it’s bearable.
Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts?
Personally, if I need to leave at a minimum 90 minutes after eating. But I normally leave about 2 hours and it is rare that I get a stitch. If I left 60 minutes I could guarantee myself a stitch. I normally run before dinner so it is easy for me, I just don’t eat after 3:00 at work. I’d recommend trying a run after 2 hours after eating and seeing how that goes. Also the fitter you get, the less stiches you get. Cheers… — Tommy Haywood;
| | Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in | the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I | generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but | even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. | This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few | minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. | | Any thoughts? Only based on experience and not scientific study, I find that a wait of at least three hours after eating is needed to avoid the nasty stitch. With that I never have them. When I’ve slipped up on occasion, I get ‘em. Dick Chimenti
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in | the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I | generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but | even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. | This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few | minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. | | Any thoughts? Only based on experience and not scientific study, I find that a wait of at least three hours after eating is needed to avoid the nasty stitch. With that I never have them. When I’ve slipped up on occasion, I get ‘em. Dick Chimenti
There can be several reasons for stitches. But the most common one is speed. Next time when you go on your run, and start feeling that strange feeling that you are going to get a stitch, reduce your speed. Run at that speed for sometime, and see how it feels. It is my experience that it generally feels much better. If it does not help, try this: when you are having a stitch, generally on the left side just below your ribs, exhale while landing your right foot. Try this drill for sometime. If the stitch continues, stop. Dig your fingers into the stitch hard, and bend forward. Stay there for a while (like 10 seconds). It helps. Last summer, while I was increasing my miles and speed for my marathon training, initially I frequently had stitches after about an hour into run. I tried all the steps listed above but no luck. Then I realized that the reason for the stitches is that I was dehydrated. In your case, if you are not getting those late in the run, try some of these tricks. As a long term goal, try strengthening your abs, it will help you. Ashutosh
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in | the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I | generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but | even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. | This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few | minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. | | Any thoughts? Only based on experience and not scientific study, I find that a wait of at least three hours after eating is needed to avoid the nasty stitch. With that I never have them. When I’ve slipped up on occasion, I get ‘em. Dick Chimenti
I’ve heard/read more about the causes of stiches than I care to mention. The bottom line is this: In *my opinion* the root cause is too much food in the stomach for the run. Even if you wait several hours after eating, if you ate a lot of high fat foods you’ll still get them because most of it is still in the stomach. I, personally, have never gotten a stitch on an empty stomach, regardless of the pace. —- JAM
A friend of mine who is an avid runner suggested that to avoid a stich, inhale into that portion of your somach where you feel a stich starting. When I inhale into my stomach from the start of the run, I have always avoided painful stiches. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in | the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I | generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but | even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. | This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few | minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. | | Any thoughts? Only based on experience and not scientific study, I find that a wait of at least three hours after eating is needed to avoid the nasty stitch. With that I never have them. When I’ve slipped up on occasion, I get ‘em. Dick Chimenti There can be several reasons for stitches. But the most common one is speed. Next time when you go on your run, and start feeling that strange feeling that you are going to get a stitch, reduce your speed. Run at that speed for sometime, and see how it feels. It is my experience that it generally feels much better. If it does not help, try this: when you are having a stitch, generally on the left side just below your ribs, exhale while landing your right foot. Try this drill for sometime. If the stitch continues, stop. Dig your fingers into the stitch hard, and bend forward. Stay there for a while (like 10 seconds). It helps. Last summer, while I was increasing my miles and speed for my marathon training, initially I frequently had stitches after about an hour into run. I tried all the steps listed above but no luck. Then I realized that the reason for the stitches is that I was dehydrated. In your case, if you are not getting those late in the run, try some of these tricks. As a long term goal, try strengthening your abs, it will help you. Ashutosh
Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts? ER, AMTV, Triathlon! http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/
Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in
Shea- How long have you been running? How far/how fast do you go?You might try slowing down-on a normal training workout, you should have enough wind to be able to talk. Any faster and you’re doing an anaerobic workout, not aerobic. You may not llok like an Olympic marathoner when going slow, but it gets the job done. Pick up the pace as your aerobic capacity improves. If it’s occasional, you might try taking the fold of skin between your nose and upper lip and pinching it between your thumb and forefinger-it’s an accupressure point or something. It works for some people. Hope this helps. Stay with it! Scott Hoffman no sig today.
Shea, this may seem crude but it works for me. I stop, bend over towards the side that hurts. With both hands, grab as much as your skin and innards as you can (just below the rib cage). Hold for several seconds and then resume.This may be psycological, but I feel like I’m squeezing the gas out of the painful spot. Hope it works for you. You may be able to help me now. In the first 26.2 mi. marathon, the race was from Windsor Castle to Whitecity Stadium (the king’s reviewing box was inside the stadium). Is Whitecity Stadium still in existence? If so, where? If not, where was it located in London? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Probably 2 out of every 3 times I run, I get a fairly painful stich in the side of my stomach. Does anyone know how stiches can be avoided? I generally wait at least 60 minutes after eating before running, but even on days when I’ve waited a lot longer, I still get a nasty stich. This evening it was so painful I had to stop running for a few minutes, and towards the end of the run I felt a bit dizzy/sick. Any thoughts? ER, AMTV, Triathlon! http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/
It has allso been my experience that speed is the couse of my stich problem. When I run hard and my breathing gets out of control I sometimes get them. My sugestion is reduce your speed or PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR BREATHING !! Good luck Abraham
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only based on experience and not scientific study, I find that a wait of at least three hours after eating is needed to avoid the nasty stitch. With that I never have them. When I’ve slipped up on occasion, I get ‘em. Dick Chimenti I’ve heard/read more about the causes of stiches than I care to mention. The bottom line is this: In *my opinion* the root cause is too much food in the stomach for the run. Even if you wait several hours after eating, if you ate a lot of high fat foods you’ll still get them because most of it is still in the stomach. I, personally, have never gotten a stitch on an empty stomach, regardless of the pace. —- JAM
Then again, there are those of us who don’t get stitches based on food in the stomach. I can run after a moderate meal with no problems whatsoever. My stitches are related to breathing patterns and intensity. Go figure. TriBop WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Beginner’s FAQ, Software Download the WebRunner Racing Utilities http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html
Hey, anybody know anything about this race? Since Great North is no longer on my schedule, I’m considering showing up for this one this weekend, but I’ve seen precious little info about it in all the usual publications. The only place I’ve seen it advertised was in The California Schedule. It’s supposed to be a sprint distance in Aptos this Sunday, August 11. Is it happening? Anyone going, or have more info? Thanks– Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft!" http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, anybody know anything about this race? Since Great North is no longer on my schedule, I’m considering showing up for this one this weekend, but I’ve seen precious little info about it in all the usual publications. The only place I’ve seen it advertised was in The California Schedule. It’s supposed to be a sprint distance in Aptos this Sunday, August 11. Is it happening? Anyone going, or have more info? Thanks– Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft!" http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie
* * * August 11 1996 – Sunday Aptos: Sandman Triathlon (.5mS-15mB-4.5mR), 9am $40-indi.;($75-team) w/t-s, $50 ($90) w/t-s race day, limit 400; S/F Seacliff State Beach; S-ocean, B-loop, R-on beach, out/back. Santa Cruz State Lifeguard Assoc., 665 14th Ave. Santa Cruz 95062; 408/476-4992 from The CA Schedule: http://www.runningnetwork.com/Cal/ the run is on the sand. wes W. Weston Stander Silicon Graphics, Inc. (415) 933-3884
I did Sandman last year (my first in fact). It’s a mass start (400 max) for a half mile (ocean) swim. The bike is 15 miles, 1 or 2 good hills. The run is 4 miles or so on the beach. It’s a pretty laid back race…I had a good time. Rich
Hi Tricia – I think the people who run the Sandman have tried to temper the publicity for the sake of preserving its "local flavor." It’s a nice, laid-back, local race, well worth doing. I’ve done it enough times to lose count, and will be back this Sunday. If I see somebody matching your web pictures, I’ll introduce myself. Ron Williams San Jose
Carnac is the correct spelling. The only mail order source that I know that carries them is Excel at 1-800-627-6664 or http://ares.csd.net/~excel/.
Add TriAthlete Zombies to your list. 800 999 2215. And I agree with another poster that your best bet is to try a pair on in a store before ordering any shoes mail order. Peace. Berg. A lone traveler on the Internet searching for answers to questions I do not have…
I’ve been told the I should look at Carnac (or Karnac?) shoes because they fit a wide foot better than other brands. What is the correct spelling of that brand, and what mail order sources carry that shoe? Also, if anyone has the contact info, to include regular mailing address and toll-free number if any, for Carnac, I’d appreciate your relaying it to me. I’d like to contact the company for a catalog. Thanks. —
stock) writes: I’ve been told the I should look at Carnac (or Karnac?) shoes because they fit a wide foot better than other brands. What is the correct spelling of that brand, and what mail order sources carry that shoe? Also, if anyone has the contact info, to include regular mailing address and toll-free number if any, for Carnac, I’d appreciate your relaying it to me. I’d like to contact the company for a catalog. Thanks. —
Its CARNAC. Not sure what mail-order company carries them. Nashbar, Colorado Cyclist and Performance do not carry them. dan Daniel McCauley ‘give, and you might receive. take and you’ll definately receive.’
I’ve been told the I should look at Carnac (or Karnac?) shoes because they fit a wide foot better than other brands. What is the correct spelling of that brand, and what mail order sources carry that shoe? Also, if anyone has the contact info, to include regular mailing address and toll-free number if any, for Carnac, I’d appreciate your relaying it to me. I’d like to contact the company for a catalog. Thanks. —
There is a Carnac add in the Aug 96 Mountain Bike on page 95 with a long list of locations (some with 800 numbers so they would likely be willing to ship). Sinclair does the importing (as mentioned in another response), you can get a free Carnac brochure at PO Box 707, Verdi NV 89439 or at http://www.synclair.com. Aaron
I’ve been told the I should look at Carnac (or Karnac?) shoes because they fit a wide foot better than other brands. What is the correct spelling of that brand, and what mail order sources carry that shoe? Also, if anyone has the contact info, to include regular mailing address and toll-free number if any, for Carnac, I’d appreciate your relaying it to me. I’d like to contact the company for a catalog. Thanks. —
Carnac is the correct spelling. The only mail order source that I know that carries them is Excel at 1-800-627-6664 or http://ares.csd.net/~excel/. They don’t put out a catalog per se, just just a 1 page, 3 fold pamphlet that shows all their shoes. You can see the brochure at their web site as it looks like they just scanned it on. http://www.synclair.com/ is the site. The only address that shows on the brochure is a mailing address: Carnac P.O. Box 707 Verdi, NV 89439
Yeah, Carnacs are wider, but if fit is the reason you’re looking for them you’d best buy in a shop — at least your first pair. John Tomlinson
1-800-Bike-PRO has them but they are about $200 bucks. But I have heard that they are good. I have had the SIDI for about 2 years and they are still holding together. Later
I’ve been told the I should look at Carnac (or Karnac?) shoes because they fit a wide foot better than other brands. What is the correct spelling of that brand, and what mail order sources carry that shoe? Also, if anyone has the contact info, to include regular mailing address and toll-free number if any, for Carnac, I’d appreciate your relaying it to me. I’d like to contact the company for a catalog. Thanks. —
carnac is french. their us distributor has a website at http://www.synclair.com or something like that. they do fit wide feet better, i have some. in general, mail order won’t be cheaper than a real bike shop, especially if you’re nice to your local real bike shop. if you must do mail order, colorado cyclist may still handle carnac, but most shops (including mine) have the same price and offer 10% discount to local clubmembers. — mark l weaver http://adventuresports.com/asap/shops/precisin/welcome.htm precision bicycles, carmichael ca (916)488-5353
There is a Carnac add in the Aug 96 Mountain Bike on page 95 with a long list of locations (some with 800 numbers so they would likely be willing to ship). Sinclair does the importing (as mentioned in another response), you can get a free Carnac brochure at PO Box 707, Verdi NV 89439 or at http://www.synclair.com.
I believe the list of in that mag. is a list of retail stores & won’t be any cheaper than buying them direct from your local shop. In fact I don’t believe that Sinclair deals Carnacs with any mail order only outlet. And they are not in he latest Bike-Pro catalog. As for the shoes themselves they do have a big toe area but I found the heel on mine to be a little on the sloppy side and I had to go 1 full size smaller than my regular mountain bike shoes to get a good fit. So just go buy them from your local shop. Lou — You take your hotsy totsy swinger You put him under pressure Watch him fall apart