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I recently purchased the Timex Ironman 100 lap HRM.  If you don’t already have an HRM, this might be a good choice.  It is a little more than you want to spend ($119) but you will be killing 2 birds with one stone.  The HRM is ok (compared to the Polar) and is functional.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could I get some recommendations for a watch that would allow me to set TWO interval times and beep LOUD at the end of those intervals. For instance, the first interval would last 4 minutes during which I run hard. The second interval would last 1 minute where I walk. The alternating pattern would continue: 4,1,4,1, etc. What qualities am I looking for? DURABILITY and PRICE. I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Timex Triathlon series in terms of durability, so I’d be interested in knowing what other choices are out there. I don’t have much money, so for me, even a $50 watch cannot be considered a ‘throw-away’. Thanks. I’d recommend the Timex Ironman 100 lap. You can enter up to 10 different intervals.  Though if I were you I’d use the automatic repeatable countdown feature instead of entering in seperate intervals.  Just set the countdown for 1 minute, do four countdowns hard then one recovery.  It’s easier than entering 4 min , 1 min, 4 min etc. for a maximum of 10 "windows"- you can do as many as you want or change your interval or recovery in the middle of your workout. Only problem with the watch is it is a little bulky. Steve

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I’d recommend the Timex Ironman 100 lap. You can enter up to 10 different intervals.  Though if I were you I’d use the automatic repeatable countdown feature instead of entering in seperate intervals.  Just set the countdown for 1 minute, do four countdowns hard then one recovery.  It’s easier than entering 4 min , 1 min, 4 min etc. for a maximum of 10 "windows"- you can do as many as you want or change your interval or recovery in the middle of your workout. Only problem with the watch is it is a little bulky. Steve

I have the same watch and it took me a while to find out that you can set the number of repetitions to ‘C’, which stands for Continuous. That way you only enter the 4min 1min interval once and let it run continuously. Great watch, my only complaint is the microscopic print used in the instructions. I guess that’s how they manage to get in 153 languages in 10 sq. inches. SubSonic

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Could I get some recommendations for a watch that would allow me to set TWO interval times and beep LOUD at the end of those intervals. For instance, the first interval would last 4 minutes during which I run hard. The second interval would last 1 minute where I walk. The alternating pattern would continue: 4,1,4,1, etc. What qualities am I looking for? DURABILITY and PRICE. I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Timex Triathlon series in terms of durability, so I’d be interested in knowing what other choices are out there. I don’t have much money, so for me, even a $50 watch cannot be considered a ‘throw-away’. Thanks.

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Have a look at www.heartratemonitor.co.uk Even if you aren’t in the uk, it’s still a good place to start with lots of info. I got my ciclosport delivered the next day and it’s great. hth

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could I get some recommendations for a watch that would allow me to set TWO interval times and beep LOUD at the end of those intervals. For instance, the first interval would last 4 minutes during which I run hard. The second interval would last 1 minute where I walk. The alternating pattern would continue: 4,1,4,1, etc. What qualities am I looking for? DURABILITY and PRICE. I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Timex Triathlon series in terms of durability, so I’d be interested in knowing what other choices are out there. I don’t have much money, so for me, even a $50 watch cannot be considered a ‘throw-away’. Thanks.

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Could I get some recommendations for a watch that would allow me to set TWO interval times and beep LOUD at the end of those intervals. For instance, the first interval would last 4 minutes during which I run hard. The second interval would last 1 minute where I walk. The alternating pattern would continue: 4,1,4,1, etc. What qualities am I looking for? DURABILITY and PRICE. I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Timex Triathlon series in terms of durability, so I’d be interested in knowing what other choices are out there. I don’t have much money, so for me, even a $50 watch cannot be considered a ‘throw-away’. Thanks.

I’d recommend the Timex Ironman 100 lap. You can enter up to 10 different intervals.  Though if I were you I’d use the automatic repeatable countdown feature instead of entering in seperate intervals.  Just set the countdown for 1 minute, do four countdowns hard then one recovery.  It’s easier than entering 4 min , 1 min, 4 min etc. for a maximum of 10 "windows"- you can do as many as you want or change your interval or recovery in the middle of your workout. Only problem with the watch is it is a little bulky. Steve

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OK, now that there’s been one thread about this already, I’m totally confused.  What’s the official word?  Will there be a triathlon at Sydney this fall or not?  There seems to be a lot of concern about sharks.  Where did they hold the ITU events?

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Nothing in the press or electronic media in Brisbane (Aust), that I have seen.  I read the sports pages every day and catch the radio and television news bulletins at least once every day and have seen nothing, nada, zip, zero! As far as I’m aware, its still on. Mind you, a conspiracy theorist might suggest that the IOC and/or SOCOG have plans to can it or move it but intend waiting until the last minute to do so.  Reason for waiting?  With the amount of broughaha that has accompanied the farcical ticket allocation process for Sydney, SOCOG in particular would want to shy away from anything that might get the paying public any more pissed off than they already are. For the record, I don’t actually subscribe to the conspiracy theory. Andy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, now that there’s been one thread about this already, I’m totally confused.  What’s the official word?  Will there be a triathlon at Sydney this fall or not?  There seems to be a lot of concern about sharks.  Where did they hold the ITU events?

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…. Where did they hold the ITU events?

On the same course. So far, I’m not aware of any problem with sharks, but hey, I guess we can find out for sure in a couple of weeks. — MB.

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Nothing in the press or electronic media in Brisbane (Aust), that I have seen.  I read the sports pages every day and catch the radio and television news bulletins at least once every day and have seen nothing, nada, zip, zero! As far as I’m aware, its still on.

There’s a tri being run on the Olympic course in 2-3 weeks, serving as a test event.  All we have to do is see where the swim is held, and we’ll know where the real deal will come down.  Of course, if the event is cancelled, we’ll know more then too… Stay tuned… Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.cynetfl.com/habanero/ Home of the $695 ti frame

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Guys get real its on…..there is negligible chance of shark attack, you have just about the same chance of getting attacked in your own bath. There seems this perception that there are shark attacks all the time…we have 3 million miles of beach here and the number of attacks each year is less than 6 and those are usually surfers surfing in the middle of schools of bait fish. Therewill be 2 tris at least on the course over the next couple of months, there is more chance of hypothermia even with wet suits as happened to at least 2 of the top women a couple of years ago. Peter Johnston – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, now that there’s been one thread about this already, I’m totally confused.  What’s the official word?  Will there be a triathlon at Sydney this fall or not?  There seems to be a lot of concern about sharks.  Where did they hold the ITU events?

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Mind you, a conspiracy theorist might suggest that the IOC and/or SOCOG have plans to can it or move it but intend waiting until the last minute to do so.  Reason for waiting?  With the amount of broughaha that has accompanied the farcical ticket allocation process for Sydney, SOCOG in particular would want to shy away from anything that might get the paying public any more pissed off than they already are.

There’s also the idea that if they wait long enough, the tickets to the event will be scalped so many times that those ultimately holding them won’t know how to get a refund. <G Brian "if you’re going to hatch conspiracy theories, it helps to think like a conspirator" Wagner

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OK.  I’ll take that as a "yes". – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guys get real its on…..there is negligible chance of shark attack, you have just about the same chance of getting attacked in your own bath. There seems this perception that there are shark attacks all the time…we have 3 million miles of beach here and the number of attacks each year is less than 6 and those are usually surfers surfing in the middle of schools of bait fish. Therewill be 2 tris at least on the course over the next couple of months, there is more chance of hypothermia even with wet suits as happened to at least 2 of the top women a couple of years ago. … OK, now that there’s been one thread about this already, I’m totally confused.  What’s the official word?  Will there be a triathlon at Sydney this fall or not?  There seems to be a lot of concern about sharks.  Where did they hold the ITU events?

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Once again, the MSNBC story on this subject is at this url: http://www.nbcolympics.com/msnbc/?/news/tr/2000/03/15shark.html It’s not called off, there’s just a few competitors that are afraid of big fish. Larry Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated – Mark Twain. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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  It was reported in the AGE newspaper that a new international   triathlon tour will be launched today (25/3/95).   The field includes Beven, Welsh, Lessing, Allen and Smith.

And the Mike Pigg, also Aussie juniors Chris Hill, Ben Bright and British Richard Allen An earlier post of mine is haunting me ..    Remember a little while back I made parallels twixt the ARL (Oz Rugger)    and the ‘rebel’ Super League? Well .. La de da.. guess what?    Pacific Sports Entertainment is the same company who was firing up    Super League. It makes me wonder whether this too is ‘just’ a battle    of media magnates ..

Funny that. Turns out the ITGP organisers recieved a letter from Mike Gilmore saying the ITU were interested in working with the ITGP, but then a month later, after the ITGP start to organise themeselves to meet the ITU’s requirements, find the ITU have signed with PSE – Rupert Murdoch’s Pacific Sports Entertainment. So the ITU had their chance, both to treat the athletes fairly, and deal with the ITGP in cooperation, but lools like they blew it. Lets just hope though the athletes don’t remain the meet-in-the sandwich of a wrangle between both organisers – ITU and ITGP and their respective backers – Murdoch vs Packer.   What’s a media company doing running sports any way. Sounds Like a good chance to broadcast inbreed news of our own promotions. Does that mean Murdoch owned Newspapers/TV’s will slang the ITGP?? Richard

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According to todays (Sat 30 March) Telegraph Mirror, Miles Stewart has signed with the ITU’s world Cup series. The article was as follows; "MILES BETTER FOR MILES." " Australias former world champion Miles Stewart yesterday aligned himself with the International Triathlon Union and its world cup series as the feud continued between the ITU and Sydney-based company OnLine Sports Promotions. Stewart, who won the 1991 world title, was the first big name in men’s triathlon to officially align himself with the ITU since rumours started earlier this month of a new international series. "The ITU competition has been getting stronger year by year and their series is the one approved by the International Olympic Committee," Stewart said in a media release" Well, there you have it…….As most know, Miles did quite well last year in the series (not sure of his final overall placing), coming second to Brad Beven on more than one occasion. If everyone else (read; Brad Beven)is leaving the ITU to join OnLine’s new series, then Miles could very well find himself the no.1 athlete. I’m sure that this would be great for him from a financial point of view, with increased exposure, etc. However, I’m hoping for the new series to go really well. OnLine are a great team, and put on some outstanding races here in Australia. After all, look at the coverage they got with the St George Bank (formerly Tooheys Blue) Triathlon Grand Prix series. With much greater funding, they will put on a super series. Stewart Ralph Royal Australian Air Force Canberra, ACT AUSTRALIA "I choose not to put my signature line here, starting….now."

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  It was reported in the AGE newspaper that a new international   triathlon tour will be launched today (25/3/95).  The tour named the   International Grand Prix (IGP) will be   run by the three Bray Brothers of Sydney, who also run the Australian   Triathlon Grand Prix (TGP).  The races will be similar the TGP with short   loopy made for TV courses.  The series has Pay-tv Sponsorship with each   event carrying a prize pool of $100,000 (I don’t know if thats US or   Aussie dollars).  All of the athletes have been promised good contracts   including retainers, accomodation, health insurance and travel.     Not surprisingly Les McDonald is pissed off and has warned athletes that   if they don’t take part in the ITU World cup they can’t qualify for the   Olympics.  According to Hayden Bray the IGP had approached the ITU to   co-ordinate dates of races etc. and had had their offer rejected.     The IGP has scooped the pool of triathletes to come with probably the best   line up seen in a race in years.  The field includes Beven, Welsh, Lessing,   Allen and Smith. An earlier post of mine is haunting me ..    Remember a little while back I made parallels twixt the ARL (Oz Rugger)    and the ‘rebel’ Super League?  The ARL being "Optus Pay TV/Kerry Packer"    backed and the Super League being "FoxTel/Rupert Murdoch" backed.  To date,    ARL (err .. the establishment in this case) seems to have won the legal    battles against the rebel Super League forming.    Well .. La de da.. guess what?     Pacific Sports Entertainment is the same company who was firing up     Super League (see today’s Melbourne Age paper – triathlon article), they     are also the ones who handle the World Cup Series productions.     If I understood recent posts, Online Promotions (TGP/IGP) or the Bray     Bros have backing from Kerry Packer (could someone please clarify this).     It makes me wonder whether this too is ‘just’ a battle of media magnates .. Isn’t there a remote, unused planet somewhere out there … ? (Sigh) —   Paul Menon

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It was reported in the AGE newspaper that a new international triathlon tour will be launched today (25/3/95).  The tour named the International Grand Prix (IGP) will be run by the three Bray Brothers of Sydney, who also run the Australian Triathlon Grand Prix (TGP).  The races will be similar the TGP with short loopy made for TV courses.  The series has Pay-tv Sponsorship with each event carrying a prize pool of $100,000 (I don’t know if thats US or Aussie dollars).  All of the athletes have been promised good contracts including retainers, accomodation, health insurance and travel. Not surprisingly Les McDonald is pissed off and has warned athletes that if they don’t take part in the ITU World cup they can’t qualify for the Olympics.  According to Hayden Bray the IGP had approached the ITU to co-ordinate dates of races etc. and had had their offer rejected. The IGP has scooped the pool of triathletes to come with probably the best line up seen in a race in years.  The field includes Beven, Welsh, Lessing, Allen and Smith.  I don’t know the rest of the field as it was not in the report I read.  The men will have ten races in Paris (July), Germany (August), Austria (September), Spain (September), United States (September and October), Brazil (October), Japan (November), Asia (venue to be decided with the last race to be held in outback Australia.  Three womens races will be held in 1996 with the hope of a full series the next year.   Smith was quoted as saying "It’s not nice to have factions all over the place.  It doesn’t make for a happy house but the ITU won’t listen to the athletes" I try and contact On-line Promotions today to get further details of the new tour.

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Mark, thanks for your post. this is the sort of information which is sadly missing from the ITU site (it does need a FAQ). Even if we disagree with you, or the ITU, at least we have the chance to debate the point. But I’m a bit confused about the role of regional reps in the ITU. You say the regional federations have no offfical standing. This would make it sound like the reginal reps have no offical standing as well. But these reginal reps are part of the ITU council, which is "integral to coming to consensus on important matters affecting the ITU". So the reginal reps are pretty important really, aren’t they?? Also the wording "coming to consensus" sounds strongly like political speach for a dictatorship as I note their is no voting at these meetings. How do they come to consensus then? What is the basic structure of ITU? ITU consists of the Congress, the Executive Board, the Council and the Committees. There are also a few Regional Federations, which are loose alliances of NFs in a particular region within ITU. However, these Regional Federations have no official standing with ITU. The members of ITU are its NFs. How does the ITU function between Congresses?  According to the ITU Constitution, the elected Executive Board (also known as E-Board) is charged with the responsibility of handling ongoing business between Congresses. The E-Board consists of the President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and seven other Board members,

my current list of board members is: Phil Briars (NZL) Brian Hinton (AUS) Lise Jahnsen (DEN) Chiharu Igaya, IOC (JPN) Didier Lehenaff (FRA) Kevin Nel (RSA) Can you correct this please. In addition to the Executive Board meetings, there are also occasionally special meetings of the ITU "Council" an unofficial Board meeting which includes the E-Board, all Committee members and all Regional Representatives. Council meetings generally do not involve voting, but are integral to coming to consensus on important matters affecting ITU. What are the Regions and how are they represented on the E-Board? The seven Regions of ITU are North America, South America, Central America and the Caribbean, Europe, Asia, Oceania, and Africa. All but one are currently represented on the E-Board: 3 from Europe, 2 from North America, one from South America, one from Africa, one from Asia and three from Oceania.

Can you correct my the list of regional reps? Ramy Ramachandran (Asia) Andrew McBarnet (Europe) Scott Zagarino (North America) Jorge Mejia (South America) Guillermo Saenz (Carib) Bill Walker (Oceania) Cyril Cure (Africa) Does ITU plan to make every race a "drafting-allowed race?"

Mark, lets ask the opposite question. Does the ITU ever plan to have an ITU race draft free ??? Do you think the Australian Grand Prix series shows that the argument against drafting depends on the distance and style of race (ie one made for TV/spectators and not the olympics, world championships) and is against drafting per-say? Could you post the ITU constituion on to rst? I asked someone with access to the minutes of the Cancun meeting to post those, and they said their may be a legal problem. Do you know why this may be? Mark, thanks for any answers. Richard – now recovered from my 1st 1/2 IM

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Welcome to the forum…Zag has been the lonely pro-ITU voice, and it’s good to see some more folks who’ve been lurking in the shadows are daring to come out into the sunshine.  Hope it’s not too harsh. As for your FAQ, my first follow-up question: Does ITU plan to make every race a "drafting-allowed race?" The ITU has never intended for any events to have drafting-allowed other than those it for which it has responsibility (ITU World Cup Series, some World Championships, Regional Games, and the Olympic Games). Age-groupers will probably never be allowed to draft in ITU events. ITU will not force any NFs to require drafting-allowed in any other events sanctioned by that NF. Promoters or federations that choose to offer drafting-allowed events may do so (or not) as they please, with no repercussions from their IF.

If age groupers are not allowed to draft, can you explain the complete absense of even one drafting penalty in Cancun?  Can we expect the same "turning of the heads" in Cleveland?  If so, why carry out the charade? More to come, I’m sure.  And again, welcome. -Mike Llerandi

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…snippage….   T

 Age-groupers will probably never be allowed to draft in ITU events. ITU will not force  any NFs to require drafting-allowed in any other events sanctioned by that  NF. Promoters or federations that choose to offer drafting-allowed events  may do so (or not) as they please, with no repercussions from their IF.

Yeah Mark, Right.. Since your comments on how itu congress works bear little resemblance to what we heard actually happened in Cancun, why should your comments on drafting be taken as truth? Are you still the USA Tri rep to itu, or have you been recalled? |       Ray Plotecia            | |       Image Control           |

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Richard, I’m glad to answer your questions. I have been unable to access r.s.t the past few nights, so if you wish, you can post this: But I’m a bit confused about the role of regional reps in the ITU. You say the regional federations have no offfical standing. This would make it sound like the reginal reps have no offical standing as well. But these reginal reps are part of the ITU council, which is "integral to coming to consensus on important matters affecting the ITU". So the reginal reps are pretty important really, aren’t they??

The Regional reps ARE important, since they are the "lobbiests" for the positions of the regions. Regional Reps are the ones who report to the E-Board on all activities taking place in the regions and, as a result of their inclusion in the council meetings, are able to represent regional positions (as well as NF-specific positions) to the E-Board when the E-Board meets between Congresses. They have a great deal of impact and influence on issues before the council. Many of the Resoluitons to Congress are impacted by the Regional Reps.  However, according to the ITU Constitution, only the NFs may vote on the Resolutions at Congress. That is what I meant when I said that Regions had no "standing" per se. Also the wording "coming to consensus" sounds strongly like political speach for a dictatorship as I note their is no voting at these meetings. How do they come to consensus then?

There is occasionally some voting at council meetings, but only by E-Board members and usually only when it is apparent that "Executive" action should be taken. Otherwise, it is most common that the council, after discussing an issue, gets a basic agreement in the form of consensus ( OK, you could say after an informal vote by nodding of heads) and then, as is typical in committee meetings under Robert’s Rules "if there are no objections, we agree to take the following action…" Unless someone vehemently opposes an action, we move on having reached consensus. If there is opposition, we stop and discuss further. Once in a while, as a result of this, we change direction. As a means of conducting the business of ITU, it is actually a very fair, representative and democratic way. As a side note we recently decided to include the council at every meeting of the ITU E-Board from now on. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What is the basic structure of ITU? ITU consists of the Congress, the Executive Board, the Council and the Committees. There are also a few Regional Federations, which are loose alliances of NFs in a particular region within ITU. However, these Regional Federations have no official standing with ITU. The members of ITU are its NFs. How does the ITU function between Congresses?  According to the ITU Constitution, the elected Executive Board (also known as E-Board) is charged with the responsibility of handling ongoing business between Congresses. The E-Board consists of the President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and seven other Board members, my current list of board members is: Phil Briars (NZL) Brian Hinton (AUS) Lise Jahnsen (DEN) Chiharu Igaya, IOC (JPN) Didier Lehenaff (FRA) Kevin Nel (RSA) Can you correct this please.

Add Table officers: Les McDonald, President (CAN) Sarah Springman, V.P. (GBR) Phil Coles, Sect. (AUS) Mark Sisson, Treas. (USA) and we recently added Joao Calazans (BRA) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In addition to the Executive Board meetings, there are also occasionally special meetings of the ITU "Council" an unofficial Board meeting which includes the E-Board, all Committee members and all Regional Representatives. Council meetings generally do not involve voting, but are integral to coming to consensus on important matters affecting ITU. What are the Regions and how are they represented on the E-Board? The seven Regions of ITU are North America, South America, Central America and the Caribbean, Europe, Asia, Oceania, and Africa. All but one are currently represented on the E-Board: 3 from Europe, 2 from North America, one from South America, one from Africa, one from Asia and three from Oceania. Can you correct my the list of regional reps? Ramy Ramachandran (Asia) Andrew McBarnet (Europe) Scott Zagarino (North America) Jorge Mejia (South America) Guillermo Saenz (Carib) Bill Walker (Oceania) Cyril Cure (Africa)

Your list is accurate. Does ITU plan to make every race a "drafting-allowed race?" Mark, lets ask the opposite question. Does the ITU ever plan to have an ITU race draft free ??? Do you think the Australian Grand Prix series shows that the argument against drafting depends on the distance and style of race (ie one made for TV/spectators and not the olympics, world championships) and is against drafting per-say?

ITU does have a draft-free event in its Long Distance World Championships. Duathlon will likely remain drfat-free for the near future at least. I honestly don’t see us doing any drafting-allowed World Cup or TWC events, however. What I do see as our primary mission is to select more challenging courses where drfating won’t be quite the determining factor it is on flat, fast courses. I’m sorry, I don’t understand the question regarding the Australian GP. I do think that the shorter the distances, the more obvious that you can’t practically or fairly control drafting; similarly, the more talented the field the more impractical to expect spectators or viewers to understand why athletes are being DQed or penalized for riding too close, when they just swam on each others heels. Could you post the ITU constituion on to rst?

It would probably be most appropriate to post it permanently on the ITU Web site. I have been intending to look into that and will speed up that process now. I asked someone with access to the minutes of the Cancun meeting to post those, and they said their may be a legal problem. Do you know why this may be?

I suppose we could do that too, although I’m not too sure who’d be interested. I can certainly look into it. Mark, thanks for any answer

Any time.

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What is an International Federation?  Outside of the few big privatized sports organizations in the USA like Major League Baseball, National Football League, World Wrestling Federation etc., most major international sports are guided by their International Sports Federations (also called IFs ) which are almost universally recognized as the "world governing bodies" for those sports. This recognition comes about through an association with the Olympic Games and with the "Olympic Movement", which encompasses other multinational games such as Pan Am Games, Commonwealth Games, Goodwill Games, and University Games. Few can dispute the fact that the Olympic Movement generally produces the ultimate in world-wide world-class competition for virtually every sport it encompasses. Most governments around the world acknowledge the Olympic Movement as the pinnacle in sports excellence, and most countries underwrite the active pursuit of Olympic Gold Medals through their National Olympic Committees or National Sports Foundations. On the other hand, few if any, governmental agencies underwrite any other sporting activities except those related to the Olympic Movement. Who oversees the Olympic Movement?  The Olympic Movement, now entering its 100th year, is guided by the International Olympic Committee (also known as the I.O.C.).The I.O.C. is comprised of three "pillars": The first pillar consists of the I.O.C. Members. These are individuals with international sports recognition, extraordinary business acumen or other exemplary qualifications who are selected and voted into office by the incumbent members. As I.O.C. Members, they are the I.O.C.’s representatives in their respective countries, not delegates of their countries within the I.O.C.. With a few exceptions, such as countries which have held an Olympiad, there is a limit of one I.O.C. Member per country. By virtue of the fact that we have held Olympic Games in the USA, we are allowed two I.O.C. Members. It is the I.O.C. Members who make most of the decisions regarding the Olympic Movement, including selection of Olympic host cities, changes in general nationality/eligibility rules, changes to the I.O.C. Charter and general rules involving Doping Control. The second pillar of the I.O.C. consists of the International Federations (IFs). These IFs were formerly called "world governing bodies" because the were recognized as the collective group of all national bodies of a particular sport who got together and, by delegation, governed all aspects of that sport. In order for the I.O.C. to recognize an International Federation, the federation must have demonstrated that it is recognized by its many member National Federations (NFs) as the true International Federation of that sport. In recent years qualifications for I.O.C. recognition have become more stringent and include demonstrating to the I.O.C. that at least 75 NFs belong to the IF and have both men and women athletes who actively participate in the sport. The I.O.C.’s Olympic Charter grants IFs the responsibility for establishing and enforcing all rules concerning the practice of the sport, including specific Doping Control Rules (under I.O.C. guidelines); for ensuring that sport’s development throughout the world; for establishing criteria of eligibility to the Olympic Games and related competitions; and for assuming responsibility for technical control and direction of their sports at the Olympic Games and related competitions. In recent times, we have seen eligibility criteria grow to include certain sports "professionals" who as recently as ten years ago were unwelcome at Olympic Games. In fact, the word "amateur" has been entirely removed from the Olympic Charter. The I.O.C. has now left all matters of eligibility up to the individual IFs. As a result we see many IFs allowing members of professional sports teams – even from "leagues" not related to the IF or NF – to "try out" for the Olympic Teams. The fact that hundreds of athletes earning several million dollars a year would be interested in competing just for the "glory" is testimony to the power of the Olympic Movement. Virtually all IFs reserve the right to name or sanction their sport’s World Championships. Many also own, control or license their own Grand Prix, World Circuit or World Cup Series as a means of promoting the sport between Olympiads. In addition, IFs are responsible for overseeing all aspects of Regional Games (e.g. Pan Am Games, Commonwealth Games), World University Games, Goodwill Games, etc., most of which overseeing is done with the approval and blessing of the I.O.C. The third pillar of the I.O.C. consists of the National Olympic Committees (NOCs). The NOCs guide and assist all NFs in a particular country in their pursuit of participation in the Olympic Movement. NOCs have authority to name a "bid city" for that country, to help the IFs and NFs fight against doping abuse within that country, to help in the training of sports administrators and to generally see to it that athletes’ rights are protected with respect to Olympic participation. Most NOCs help in the funding of their NFs as the NFs look to Olympic participation. Occasionally this poses problems when an NOC and an NF fight over sponsorship rights at the Olympic Games. NOCs do not become involved in the rules or administration of any particular sports. This is left to the IFs and NFs. Does an NF have any standing within the I.O.C.?  Not really. The I.O.C. deals only with IFs and NOCs. Within the Olympic Movement, the I.O.C. delegates all matters relating to the technical and qualifying aspects of a sport to its recognized IF. Similarly, the I.O.C. lets the NOCs handle the logistics of assembling and sending national teams to the Olympic Games. Since both the IF and the NOC deal directly with the NFs, there is ample opportunity for a valid NF concern to be heard and dealt with by either the IF or the NOC. What does the Olympic Movement mean to an average athlete who might never have a chance at making a team?  The Olympic Movement is much larger than just those athletes who compete in the Olympics or even those who try out for a team. All the members of the NFs, by virtue of their membership in an NF that is recognized both by the NOC and by the IF, belong to the Olympic Movement. By extension, any person or organization belonging in any capacity to the Olympic movement is bound by the provisions of the Olympic Charter. How does the ITU fit into all this?  The ITU or International Triathlon Union is the International Federation for the Sport of Triathlon (and Duathlon). Like all IFs, ITU is a not-for-profit sports entity recognized by the I.O.C., in this case as the IF for Triathlon. ITU is comprised of all of the 120 National Federations (USATriathlon, FFTri, DTU, TriNZ, etc. ) around the world that participate in Triathlon. ITU operates under a Constitution which was first written by the founding National Federations (NFs) in Avignon, France in 1989. Those founding members, of which TriFed/USA was one, had decided that participation in, and a commitment to, the Olympic Movement was a primary goal to ensure triathlon’s survival into the next century. In fact, the very first objective stated in the Constitution, section 1, paragraph 1.1 a, is "to support the aims, ideals and principles of the Olympic Movement…" That Constitution was approved unanimously by the 45 countries in attendance at the "Founding Congress" in August 1989. As of 1995 Triathlon has been granted provisional program status as a full medal sport for the Sydney 2000 Olympics. What is the basic structure of ITU?  ITU consists of the Congress, the Executive Board, the Council and the Committees. There are also a few Regional Federations, which are loose alliances of NFs in a particular region within ITU. However, these Regional Federations have no official standing with ITU. The members of ITU are its NFs. How does Congress work?  Important issues such as Constitutional changes, basic triathlon policy, technical rules and the election of officers are decided at the annual meeting of Congress, which is usually held during the week preceding the Triathlon World Championships. ITU Congress is conducted under Robert’s Rules of Order, with the President serving as Chairman. An agenda is distributed 45 days prior to congress. Delegates of each NF vote on resolutions or elect officers at Congress on the basis of one vote per NF. Elections of officers, including the Executive Board and all Committees, are held every four years during the Olympic year, except in the case of candidates running to fill posts vacant due to resignation. Those and the election of an Audit Committee take place every year at Congress. How does the ITU function between Congresses?  According to the ITU Constitution, the elected Executive Board (also known as E-Board) is charged with the responsibility of handling ongoing business between Congresses. The E-Board consists of the President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and seven other Board members, all of whom are unpaid volunteers. Day-to-day operations are guided by the President, a small paid office staff and the other board members who consult with each other via telephone and FAX. The E-Board meets officially at least twice a year, for two to three days at a time, to discuss ongoing business and triathlon issues, to analyze reports of Committees and to prepare resolutions for Congress. In addition to the Executive Board meetings, there are also occasionally special meetings of the ITU "Council" an unofficial Board meeting which includes the E-Board, all Committee members and all Regional Representatives. Council meetings generally do not involve voting, but are integral to coming to consensus on important matters affecting ITU. What are the Regions and how are they represented on the E-Board?  The

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says… Well, not afflicted by the 8+ inches of snow on the ground (yea, I like the pool best) I put off for a fun (?) 5k swim set with a couple of equally deranged multi-sport geeks.  Part way through we decided to make this a workout to remember.  After completing our sets, and dressed in nothing but our speedos (and a certain lack of humility) we bolted out the back of the swim building and made snow angles.

Yes, but real men do them face down without the speedo (I have pictures, but no I will not post them on the web page).  It helps to have a hot tub nearby. Marty Miller (aka The Noodle) Proprietor of "The Triathlete’s Web" http://w3.one.net/~triweb/triweb.html

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: Well, not afflicted by the 8+ inches of snow on the ground (yea, I like the : pool best) I put off for a fun (?) 5k swim set with a couple of equally : deranged multi-sport geeks.  Part way through we decided to make this a : workout to remember.  After completing our sets, and dressed in nothing but : our speedos (and a certain lack of humility) we bolted out the back of the : swim building and made snow angles. : This accomplished three things 1) It made an ordinary workout memorable, 2) : It rubber stamped us as certified looney’s, and 3) It also gave us something : to blame for our impending bout with pneumonia !!! : How much more could a tri-geek/stud/wannabe/spoke…et al ask for? : Remember, the only good draft come from a bar…. : ar3 An interesting suggestion. I had been wondering how others have been coping with the weather lately.  Here’s one I tried yesterday:   1) Take the bus to the pool, wearing running clothes. 2) Long swim, but with appropriate variety. 3) Jump out of the water, put on running clothes, stuff extra gear in backpack, and run home. (10 miles)  Freeze butt off running through snow and sub-zero wind-chill conditions 4) Get home, strip down to bike shorts and put in 1 1/2 hrs. on the trainer. On the whole, it was a success.  I got a great workout in all three sports and I proved to any remaining doubters that I am out of my mind. Steve Irish

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Steve, My old high school swim team did a version of your "angels" workout.  Before a workout, we all would start whooping an hollering, run like crazed fools out into the snow drifts (we were in Cleveland, OH) dive in, get full of snow, run back into the building and dive in the pool.  WOW! What a feeling when you hit the pool.  It is kind of tingly and numb, but still cool. Boy, was the pool warm after that. One time we did it while the ski club was waiting for the buses to take them to the slopes.  All those people all bundled up watching us crazies jumping in the snow with only our speedo’s on.  Boy, high school was weird. My two cents, Tri-punk — Charlotte, NC

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Well, not afflicted by the 8+ inches of snow on the ground (yea, I like the pool best) I put off for a fun (?) 5k swim set with a couple of equally deranged multi-sport geeks.  Part way through we decided to make this a workout to remember.  After completing our sets, and dressed in nothing but our speedos (and a certain lack of humility) we bolted out the back of the swim building and made snow angles. This accomplished three things 1) It made an ordinary workout memorable, 2) It rubber stamped us as certified looney’s, and 3) It also gave us something to blame for our impending bout with pneumonia !!! How much more could a tri-geek/stud/wannabe/spoke…et al ask for? Remember, the only good draft come from a bar…. ar3

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How long is the swim in this triathlon? How many laps should I practice swimming? Thanks for the information in advance.

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The swim in a Danskin series race is usually 1/2 mile-or 36 lengths of a 25 yard pool.  I would make sure that you can go complete this distance comfortably before you plunge into open water the day of the race.  It’s very different.  I am not sure of how far or how long you are swimming now, but three times a week of 800 yards building to the 1/ 2 mile a few weeks before the race would be one plan.  Overdistance doesn’t hurt either -then the race distance seems short and fast!  Good luck!  Which one are you planning on entering? Cheryl

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The swim distance for the Danskin triathlon series is 1/2 mile.  A 1/2 mile in a 25 yard pool is about 800 yards.  From one end of the pool to the other is a length and back and forth (2 lengths) is a lap.  So, 800 yards is 32 laps. Hope this helps, Rachel

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OK, the next time anyone posts anything about a sports food bar of any kind, take the following steps: 1 – Consider how many calories of food you consume in an average day. 2 – Consider how many "whatever" bars you consume in a day. 3 – Consider how many calories are in this "whatever" bar. 4 – Calculate how much of your daily calorie intake comes from the "whatever" bar I predict that you’ll reach the obvious conclusion that the sports food bar contributes a very small percentage of your daily calorie intake and that eating one a day (and I expect most of us don’t eat that many) will have virtually no effect on the overall balance of fats, protein and carbohydrates in your diet. In other words, even if a certain bar does contain the magic balance of protein, fat and carbos, it won’t make a whit of difference unless your diet consists of nothing else. Try ‘em all. See what works for you. Eat lots of fresh fruit and grains and keep the fat content of your routine diet reasonably low. Avoid nutritional BS. Oh yeah, and train real hard!

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I apologize for the original posting–I guess too much time at the checkout at the grocery store reading the latest tabloid with screaming headlines? I promise to never do that again on this page.

No apology needed. You’ve clarified things. Maybe if you’d started out saying that everything you’d read indicated that slow release of carbos is the way to go – insulin spikes etc, and that your reading of PRBars label vs Biozone indicates that one might be better than the other, it wouldn’t have set off my spam alarm. But putting "The TRUTH!!!" in the header, along with referring to someone as a former used car salesman certainly did that. You gotta stop reading those tabloids. :} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -As for the GI stuff, everything I’ve read in running, triathlon, and even (sorry) bodybuilding rags pushes a slow release of carbs as the healthy way to go.  And that is the universal recommendation.  It controls insulin levels better and helps prevent a ton of diseases including (from what I’ve read) adult on-set diabetes in the non-athletic population.     But back to the basics:  the larger the spike of incoming carbs, the more insulin and all the resulting factors.  Another example that comes to mind is doughnuts and coffee are no longer recommended as the breakfast of champions because the carbs in the pastry and the caffeine in the coffee drive screw up your blood sugar levels even tho you’re ready to climb the wall within about 30 minutes of slugging this stuff down.  And then the resulting crash comes mid morning when you blood sugar levels go negative from your body trying to compensate for trashing it earlier.   But, if you have a bowl of oats (the slow cooking kind) and some egg whites cooked with salsa & low fat cheese as a side dish to provide proteins (that will really stabilize blood sugar levels), you won’t experience that mid morning crash.  Is that a better explanation?  The same thing with a Powerbar vs. eating yogurt & an apple–bad GI index (Powerbar) vs. better GI index (yogurt/apple).

Yep, that’s a very good  explanation. Makes sense, now that I see that’s what you’re referring to. I wish you had put it in the first post. Then I wouldn’t have gotten flamed for taking you to task. I agree with you on the bars–I stick with the real thing myself.   Again, check into some back issues of Runner’s World or Inside Triathlon–there may be some better explanations in there.  Or, if you’re daring, try one of the bodybuilding magazines…?

Ummm, I don’t know if I’ll go THAT far.  :} Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ   http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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The glycemic index (GI) refers to the release of a carbohydrate into the blood stream hence the resulting insulin release.   And I would recommend reading up on insulin & fat retention–you’ll be surprised what answers are out there. Consider this:  The leanest non-aerobic athletes (?) in the world are bodybuilders, and they instinctively know which carbs have better GI indexs than others.  

Bodybuilders typically eat 5 to 6 relatively small meals per day to minmize blood sugar and insulin reactions. Chromium picolinate can also help smooth out insulin reactions.  If you want to use a diet based on the 4-3-3 concept and are currently on PR*Bars, read the label then check into what hydrogenated oils and high GI carbs do.  The Biozone bars, which I don’t use, are the better choice.  

But during exercise, the body is reluctant to release insulin, and eating high GI foods right before, and during exercise, won’t create much of an insulin reaction. Also, eating protein along with carbs (no matter how high their GI is) has a very strong synergistic affect, particularly after exercise. The insulin spike helps drive the carbs and protein into the muscles. Bodybuilders rely on this also. My earlier post on "Carb consumption vs. fat" explained many of the details on this. One must consider all of the evidence, not just part of it. -Warren

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The glycemic index (GI) refers to the release of a carbohydrate into the blood stream hence the resulting insulin release.  For example, carbs from unprocessed grains are released far slower into the bloodstream than processed carbs.  Fiber plays an important role in this, as you probably are aware.  White bread, which has a bad GI, will unload into your system at 3 – 5 times the rate of broccoli, which has a favorable GI.  If you read "Runner’s World", the nutrition column by Liz Applegate also had some information on this topic as well. Biozone is not the only group that gets into this technology; diabetics, other people with blood sugar problems, etc., are taught this information so they can better control their diseases. And I would recommend reading up on insulin & fat retention–you’ll be surprised what answers are out there.   Consider this:  The leanest non-aerobic athletes (?) in the world are bodybuilders, and they instinctively know which carbs have better GI indexs than others.  I know I’ll get a backlash of arguments on drugs, etc., but there are numerous NATURAL trainers out there who despise aerobics but continue to display developed physiques with low bodyfat.  And its partially due to their knowledge of diet and the control of carbs. I hate to take a chance on sounding rude since so many people do it so freely on the Internet, but I think you did miss some of the points brought out in your biochemistry class or nutrition classes. Or even what Liz Applegate wrote in "Runner’s World". The bottom line was this, however:  If you want to use a diet based on the 4-3-3 concept and are currently on PR*Bars, read the label then check into what hydrogenated oils and high GI carbs do.  The Biozone bars, which I don’t use, are the better choice.  It was simply the relaying of information.

Parker: Well, your second post was definitely better than your breathless-with-wonder first one, but my spam detector hasn’t re-set yet. Maybe I’m just confused. Releasing carbos quickly into your blood stream is bad? Always? Seems to me, that would be ok in lots of situations – unless you’re diabetic? And what the heck does body-building have to do with anything? I suspect the fact that they spend 15 hours a day lifting Yugo’s might have more to do with low body fat than anything. And the statement that they "instinctively" know which foods have a good GI doesn’t warrant further comment. Could it be they talk among each other during those endless Yugo-lifts? Sorry, still sounds like  spam to me. BTW: I don’t use PR*bars, biozone, or anything like that. I’m on the old see-food diet. I see food, I eat it. Seems to work for me. WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ   http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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The glycemic index (GI) refers to the release of a carbohydrate into the blood stream hence the resulting insulin release.  For example, carbs from unprocessed grains are released far slower into the bloodstream than processed carbs.  Fiber plays an important role in this, as you probably are aware.  White bread, which has a bad GI, will unload into your system at 3 – 5 times the rate of broccoli, which has a favorable GI.  If you read "Runner’s World", the nutrition column by Liz Applegate also had some information on this topic as well. Biozone is not the only group that gets into this technology; diabetics, other people with blood sugar problems, etc., are taught this information so they can better control their diseases. And I would recommend reading up on insulin & fat retention–you’ll be surprised what answers are out there.   Consider this:  The leanest non-aerobic athletes (?) in the world are bodybuilders, and they instinctively know which carbs have better GI indexs than others.  I know I’ll get a backlash of arguments on drugs, etc., but there are numerous NATURAL trainers out there who despise aerobics but continue to display developed physiques with low bodyfat.  And its partially due to their knowledge of diet and the control of carbs. I hate to take a chance on sounding rude since so many people do it so freely on the Internet, but I think you did miss some of the points brought out in your biochemistry class or nutrition classes. Or even what Liz Applegate wrote in "Runner’s World". The bottom line was this, however:  If you want to use a diet based on the 4-3-3 concept and are currently on PR*Bars, read the label then check into what hydrogenated oils and high GI carbs do.  The Biozone bars, which I don’t use, are the better choice.  It was simply the relaying of information.

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I apologize for the original posting–I guess too much time at the checkout at the grocery store reading the latest tabloid with screaming headlines? I promise to never do that again on this page. As for the GI stuff, everything I’ve read in running, triathlon, and even (sorry) bodybuilding rags pushes a slow release of carbs as the healthy way to go.  And that is the universal recommendation.  It controls insulin levels better and helps prevent a ton of diseases including (from what I’ve read) adult on-set diabetes in the non-athletic population.     But back to the basics:  the larger the spike of incoming carbs, the more insulin and all the resulting factors.  Another example that comes to mind is doughnuts and coffee are no longer recommended as the breakfast of champions because the carbs in the pastry and the caffeine in the coffee drive screw up your blood sugar levels even tho you’re ready to climb the wall within about 30 minutes of slugging this stuff down.  And then the resulting crash comes mid morning when you blood sugar levels go negative from your body trying to compensate for trashing it earlier.   But, if you have a bowl of oats (the slow cooking kind) and some egg whites cooked with salsa & low fat cheese as a side dish to provide proteins (that will really stabilize blood sugar levels), you won’t experience that mid morning crash.  Is that a better explanation?  The same thing with a Powerbar vs. eating yogurt & an apple–bad GI index (Powerbar) vs. better GI index (yogurt/apple). And as for the bodybuilding stuff, maybe its not instinctive.  One more apology due and given on my part.  I do know they have incredibly high amounts of lean body mass, but so do powerlifters.  The difference is, the bodybuilders are incredibly careful about their food intake vs. powerlifters that eat like an ultramarathoner and end up looking like a stuffed blimb.  The point on this is, I’ve read many of the muscle magazines where up to 60% of the articles is on many of these topics and have provided some great insight as to controlling bodyfat through careful carbohydrate consumption.  Different sport, I know, but same objective–get lean. I agree with you on the bars–I stick with the real thing myself.   Again, check into some back issues of Runner’s World or Inside Triathlon–there may be some better explanations in there.  Or, if you’re daring, try one of the bodybuilding magazines…?

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The PR*Bars bars contain saturated fat and hydrogenated oils,   plus their high glycemic index is caused by incorrect carbs which slows fat loss. Huh? English translation, please?

Well, the saturated fat and hydrogenated oils stuff is reasonable, even if it’s just two ways of saying the same thing. As for the "high glycemic index" and "incorrect carbs," I smell BS. Perhaps the glycemic index refers to its fat content, judging by the root, but I haven’t heard of it before. Even so, that’s just three ways of saying the same thing: saturated fat, hydrogenated oils, "high glycemic index." I’m pretty sure "incorrect carbs" are non-existent, and I can’t see how the specific structure of the carbohydrates could possibly have anything to do with fat loss anyway. Bottom Line English Translation: Advertising snow job, attempting to take advantage of those who slept through their biology classes. David DeGusta

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[edited for brevity, content errors probably my fault] Biozone is not the only group that gets into this technology; diabetics, other people with blood sugar problems, etc., are taught this information so they can better control their diseases. The bottom line was this, however:  If you want to use a diet based on the 4-3-3 concept and are currently on PR*Bars, read the label then check into what hydrogenated oils and high GI carbs do.  The Biozone bars, which I don’t use, are the better choice.  It was simply the relaying of information.

Note, Mike Tennent starts here and my comments are directed toward him. Parker: Well, your second post was definitely better than your breathless-with-wonder first one, but my spam detector hasn’t re-set yet.

Your spam-detector? I’ve tried very hard to avoid postings by Mike Tennent, but the fact that he posts so very often has made it impossible.  I was interested in the discussion that preceded Mike’s post. Maybe I’m just confused. Releasing carbos quickly into your blood stream is bad? Always? Seems to me, that would be ok in lots of situations – unless you’re diabetic?

No doubt you’re confused. Why someone who’s confused would announce it is beyond my understanding. Why you’ve picked a fight with the previous poster is equally baffling to me. And what the heck does body-building have to do with anything? I suspect the fact that they spend 15 hours a day lifting Yugo’s might have more to do with low body fat than anything. And the statement that they "instinctively" know which foods have a good GI doesn’t warrant further comment. Could it be they talk among each other during those endless Yugo-lifts? Sorry, still sounds like  spam to me.

And that’s where you’re simply wrong.   A post can’t "sound like spam."  A message becomes spam  when it is posted many times–period.  You may disagree with the post.  You may think that his post was off-topic (I don’t) and berate him for that. You may have nothing better to do than harass the poor fellow, and you decided to use your "word of the day" to castigate him publicly. In any case, you can’t call it spam without substantiation–calling it spam does not make it spam. For anyone who’s interested, spam-cancelling is a hot topic these days, and it receives a fair amount of discussion in the admin newsgroups.  For a definition of spam, I’ve included the following excerpt from the news.admin.net-abuse.misc FAQ: <starting with section 2.1 SPAM, SPAMMERS, and MOOSES 2.1) What is Spam? It’s a luncheon meat, kinda pink, comes in a can, made by Hormel. Most Americans intuitively, viscerally associate "Spam" with "no nutritive or aesthetic value." The luncheon meat has its own newsgroup, alt.spam. The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. ‘Spam’ doesn’t mean "ads." It doesn’t mean "abuse." It doesn’t mean "posts whose content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times? (See: "Yeah, but how many is X?’) There have recently been examples of "customized" spams–where each post made some effort to apply to each individual newsgroup, but the general thrust of each article was the same. A huge straw poll on news.admin.policy, news.admin.misc, and a.c-e.n-a (December 1994) showed that as many of 90% of the readers felt that cancellations for these posts were justified. So, simply put: if you plan to post the same or similar messages to dozens of newsgroups, the posts are probably going to get cancelled. If you feel that a massive multi-post you are planning constitutes an exception, you are more than welcome to run the idea past the readers of news.admin.net-abuse.misc for feedback first. It should be noted that cross-posting a single message to many newsgroups (which many call "velveeta") is definitely *not* considered cancellable spam by those who cancel spam. That doesn’t mean it’s always a swell idea, though, and a large cross-post will probably evoke many flames. If you *must* cross-post, set the followups to a single appropriate group by adding a header line like   Followup-to: group.name.here This prevents the readers of all the groups from having to deal with the thread for weeks afterwards if the readers of only one or two of the groups take an interest in it. 2.2) Where did the term ‘Spam’ come from? From  the Monty Python song that goes, roughly, "Spam spam spam spam,

spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam…" See? The term wasn’t first used to describe mass news posting, however. See the Hacker’s Jargon File for previous uses of the word.

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There seems to be a big misconception that PR*Bars & the Biozone program are the same thing.  Check into the products and you’ll find PR*Bars are not the same thing as Biozone bars!  

Ok, what next?  Fords aren’t Chevys?  Wow. The PR*Bars bars contain saturated fat and hydrogenated oils, plus their high glycemic index is caused by incorrect carbs which slows fat loss.

Huh? English translation, please? DeGusta – you want to ring in here? This is your kind of topic. And, I understand the PR*Bar company is a spin-off of Biozone started by a former Biozone member & a used car salesman!

So? Netscape spun off Mosaic. What’s you’re point? Don’t be fooled by the PR*Bar program or advertising like so many of us;

Aha, you done "seen the light!" after doing some research, you’ll find out who’s got the real program.   And Biozone does not push their supplement–they the full program available through a book which teaches you how to use real foods to successfully lose bodyfat.  I’ve had better and faster success from Biozone. Can Dave Scott, Biozone user, be wrong?

Yes, but I wouldn’t want to be the one to tell him  :} Seriously,  Dave Scott is Dave Scott. What works for him doesn’t necesarily work for you or me. The point of this silly rambling is:   if you have some facts – present ‘em. This has all the earmarks of a spam. And a poor one at that. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ   http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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There seems to be a big misconception that PR*Bars & the Biozone program are the same thing.  Check into the products and you’ll find PR*Bars are not the same thing as Biozone bars!  The PR*Bars bars contain saturated fat and hydrogenated oils, plus their high glycemic index is caused by incorrect carbs which slows fat loss.  And, I understand the PR*Bar company is a spin-off of Biozone started by a former Biozone member & a used car salesman! Don’t be fooled by the PR*Bar program or advertising like so many of us; after doing some research, you’ll find out who’s got the real program.   And Biozone does not push their supplement–they the full program available through a book which teaches you how to use real foods to successfully lose bodyfat.  I’ve had better and faster success from Biozone.  Can Dave Scott, Biozone user, be wrong?

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Michael Shaffer of Newbury Park, California has been selected to be the recipient of the 1995 Comeback Award, sponsored by Tri-Fed/USA and Joe Neri of the AFP Group. Now in its third year, the Comeback Award was developed to give special recognition to amateur triathletes who have overcome disabilities and have demonstrated the dignity and strength of the human spirit. Mike is an age-group competitor who was severely injured in October 1994 by a wreckless automobile driver while on a training ride.  His most severe, and life-threatening, injury was  the total severing of his left quadricep.   Mike has endured a tremendous amount of physical therapy and began training again earlier this year.  He probably will never regain complete strength in his left leg but he is going to Canada later this month for Ironman Canada. Mike will receive his Award at the Malibu Triathlon on September 17, 1995. —

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Michael Shaffer of Newbury Park, California has been selected to be the recipient of the 1995 Comeback Award, sponsored by Tri-Fed/USA and Joe Neri of the AFP Group. Now in its third year, the Comeback Award was developed to give special recognition to amateur triathletes who have overcome disabilities and have demonstrated the dignity and strength of the human spirit. Mike is an age-group competitor who was severely injured in October 1994 by a wreckless automobile driver while on a training ride.  His most severe, and life-threatening, injury was  the total severing of his left quadricep.   Mike has endured a tremendous amount of physical therapy and began training again earlier this year.  He probably will never regain complete strength in his left leg but he is going to Canada later this month for Ironman Canada. Mike will receive his Award at the Malibu Triathlon on September 17, 1995. —

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what was a typical training schedule for an athlete.

It depends on what you’re training for.  For an Ironman length race (I have done 5 in the last 6 years), a typical week for me is: Mon: Bike 5 mi. easy to work (14-16 MPH), lift weights, lower body, 45 min. Tue: Bike 5 easy, swim 1000 yards. Wed: Bike 5 easy, lift, upper body, 45 min. Thu: Bike 5 easy, run 3-6 miles fartlek. Fri: Bike 5 easy (rest day). Sat: Bike 50 hard (group ride). Sun: Race (run or triathlon). Weekly average: swim 1500 yd, bike 85 mi, run 15 mi. I also try to get in 1 or 2 centuries and a marathon or ultra during the 3 months before an Ironman.  Last year I did a 70 mile trail run (dropping out 21 hours into a 100 mile race) 2 weeks before the Great Floridian. #include "disclaimer.h"                |____|

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As little as possible. Enjoy the sport without becoming a slave to it.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mahoney) writes: what was a typical training schedule for an athlete. It depends on what you’re training for.  For an Ironman length race (I have done 5 in the last 6 years), a typical week for me is: Mon: Bike 5 mi. easy to work (14-16 MPH), lift weights, lower body, 45 min. Tue: Bike 5 easy, swim 1000 yards. Wed: Bike 5 easy, lift, upper body, 45 min. Thu: Bike 5 easy, run 3-6 miles fartlek. Fri: Bike 5 easy (rest day). Sat: Bike 50 hard (group ride). Sun: Race (run or triathlon). Weekly average: swim 1500 yd, bike 85 mi, run 15 mi. I also try to get in 1 or 2 centuries and a marathon or ultra during the 3 months before an Ironman.  Last year I did a 70 mile trail run (dropping out 21 hours into a 100 mile race) 2 weeks before the Great Floridian. #include "disclaimer.h"                |____|

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(Matt Mahoney) writes: Weekly average: swim 1500 yd, bike 85 mi, run 15 mi.

If someone can do an ironman on this there may be hope for me after all! Mike (3500yd swim,75mi bike,13mi run) Randow —

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Apparently this guy *can* do an Ironman on that little amount of weekly mileage–but he must have a lifetime of base that he’s working from.  I’ve done 8 Ironman tris, and I would *not* recommend that (small) volume of training for anyone who wanted a realistic chance of doing at all well–over even finishing.  On the other hand, I know from my own experience that if you have a decent base, you *can* do fine on less total volume than one might think *if* you concentrate the run & bike mileage into good-sized chunks rather than dribble it out in lots of shorter work-outs. Greg Markus Ann Arbor

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what was a typical training schedule for an athlete. It depends on what you’re training for.  For an Ironman length race (I have done 5 in the last 6 years), a typical week for me is: Mon: Bike 5 mi. easy to work (14-16 MPH), lift weights, lower body, 45 min. Tue: Bike 5 easy, swim 1000 yards. Wed: Bike 5 easy, lift, upper body, 45 min. Thu: Bike 5 easy, run 3-6 miles fartlek. Fri: Bike 5 easy (rest day). Sat: Bike 50 hard (group ride). Sun: Race (run or triathlon). Weekly average: swim 1500 yd, bike 85 mi, run 15 mi. I also try to get in 1 or 2 centuries and a marathon or ultra during the 3 months before an Ironman.  Last year I did a 70 mile trail run (dropping out 21 hours into a 100 mile race) 2 weeks before the Great Floridian. #include "disclaimer.h"                |____|

It seems to me that this is a rather small amount of training for an ironman.   If this is all of the training that I did, I’d be lucky to even finish an ironman.  I am well aware that more is not necessarily better, but I also feel that the amount of training one does should be proportional to the distance one races.  I’m not being judgemental, just curious.  Anyone else have an opinion?

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hey out there, This is my second real season competing in triathlons and I was wondering what was a typical training schedule for an athlete.  I’m in the 20-24 age group for a while longer.  Plus, I would just like to know what other people do for workouts, especially track workouts!  Thanks Sun:  R 9.5-11.5, C 20mn Mon:  S3500 yds, C 20mn Tues: lift, R 6.5-7.5 (track w/o), C 45mn Wed:  S3500 yds, R 4 Thurs:  lift, C 2 hrs (5-10 1 mile hill repeats) Fri:  S3500 yds, R 4 Sat:  C 2.5 hrs, R 1 Everyday:  lots of wholesome ice cream, cookies, and diet coke! Thanks for any info! Michael Holm

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hey out there, This is my second real season competing in triathlons and I was wondering what was a typical training schedule for an athlete.  I’m in the 20-24 age group for a while longer.  Plus, I would just like to know what other people do for workouts, especially track workouts!  Thanks Sun:  R 9.5-11.5, C 20mn Mon:  S3500 yds, C 20mn Tues: lift, R 6.5-7.5 (track w/o), C 45mn Wed:  S3500 yds, R 4 Thurs:  lift, C 2 hrs (5-10 1 mile hill repeats) Fri:  S3500 yds, R 4 Sat:  C 2.5 hrs, R 1

First of all, I think it’s a mistake not to take at least one day off. Secondly,  what kind of distances are you going to compete in?  If you are doing Olympic distance or less, I think you could cut back significantly. If you do quality swim training, you can get away with 2000-3000 yd /per workout.  This should take about 45 min.  I also think you only need to run 4x /week with one of these runs being a BRICK session and the other being track work.  Finally for O.D. or less, I’ve found that one 1.5 hr – 2 hr bike session per week is more than sufficient. OBTW, when I was your age I had a similar training schedule.  I found as I cut back that my times have improved every year (for 8 years now).  My theory is when you train too hard, you make all your workouts tend toward moderate intensity (i.e. too hard on the easy days & too slow on the high intensity days).  As a result, you get minimal gains for you efforts. Here’s my current schedule (for O.D. or less)… Mon:  S 3000 yds, Moderate Run 8+ miles Tues: Moderate Bike 30 miles Wed:  S 3000 yds, Track Intervals (6 miles with 3.5 – 4 miles being hard) Thurs: Bike (15-20mi)-Run (3-5mi) TT Fri:  S 3000 yds, Easy 6 mi Run Sat:  40+ mi bike or 10+ mi run Sun:  REST Note:  in previous years, I was swimming 4-5x / week.  I am planning to add an easy Tues morning run. Pat    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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Watched the coverage yesterday afternoon, and was once again impressed.  Michael Landesburg and Graham Fraser did an excellent job.  The program lasted a full hour vs. Welch’s winning time of 1:07:XX.  It’s noteworthy that beam bikes went 1-2-3. I wish ESPN2 was listed in my local TV listings.  It’s great to stumble on these programs, but advanced notice (maybe in Triathlete) would be great. David F. Monti, Race Results Weekly "Race results by fax first thing  every Monday morning…"

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Watched the coverage yesterday afternoon, and was once again impressed.  Michael Landesburg and Graham Fraser did an excellent job.  The program lasted a full hour vs. Welch’s winning time of 1:07:XX.  It’s noteworthy that beam bikes went 1-2-3.

I saw it on ESPN (not ESPN2) last week.  I especially liked the negative comments about draft legal races! I wish ESPN2 was listed in my local TV listings.  It’s great to stumble on these programs, but advanced notice (maybe in Triathlete) would be great.

Agreed!  I’m not sure the networks would be able to give enough notice to magazines.  In the meantime, if we hear or read of a broadcast, lets post the info! kbb Kim B. Blair, Ph.D.                     Senior Staff Scientist 1033 Massachusetts Ave                  (617) 354-3124 Cambridge, MA  02138                    (617) 491-4522 (fax)

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