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Yes, there is an easy trick. Buy an Ironman Wetsuit. (Just kidding) No really. Just relax. Remember, most triathlon courses offer a long walk/run from the swim area to your bike. This will give you plenty of time to unzip and have the suit placed around your waist as your reach your bike. Once you reach your bike, quickly roll your suit down and over your ankles. This should take very little effort nor time. Do you own one of QR’s standard fullsuits?? If so, use silicone spray on the outside of the ankle to ease this transition. Good luck Keith Ironman Wetsuits www.IronmanWetsuits.com 800.897.6464 804.288.6000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing my first tri next month in which wetsuits are allowed.  I’ve been wearing it in a pool, to get used to swimming in it and to practice taking it off.  Even though the fit is fine, I’m having a really tough time peeling it off.  It’s a QR full suit. Are there any tricks to making this easier, or can I kind of assume my transition time will equal my swim time! Any help would be appreciated.

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I’m doing my first tri next month in which wetsuits are allowed.  I’ve been wearing it in a pool, to get used to swimming in it and to practice taking it off.  Even though the fit is fine, I’m having a really tough time peeling it off.  It’s a QR full suit. Are there any tricks to making this easier, or can I kind of assume my transition time will equal my swim time! Any help would be appreciated.

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Please recommend some books for the newbie triathlete txs

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Serious Training for Serious Athletes. That’s a technical one but I learned a lot from it. There’s a new version with Ray Browning. — F. Desprez

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Swim, Bike, Run By Town & Kearney Joseph C. Foster The Stanley Works "The idea is to create your own future, and not have it shaped by circumstance." – Peter Thomas

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I would recommend a good relationship book for your mate.  I have gone through 3 girlfriends since becoming a triathlete.  All my relationships ending partially due to the fact that I trained too much.  :(  Go figure. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Please recommend some books for the newbie triathlete

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Please recommend some books for the newbie triathlete txs

Training Related: Serious Training for Edurance Athletes, by Sleamaker & Browning (older version was Serious Training for Serious Athletes) Scott Tinley’s Sports Endurance The Heart Rate Monitor Book by Sally Edwards Heart Rate Training by Sally Edwards Swimming Specific: Total Immersion book or video, by Terry Laughlin Open Water Swimming, by Penny Lee Dean Cycling Specific: Edmund Burke has several books John Cobb has a video about aero position riding that’s pretty good Running Specific: Video – The Pose Method of Running, by Nicholas Romanoff Many of these are located at http://swiminfo.com or call 800-352-7946 x1 Swimmingly, Michael Collins UCLA Masters Coach Merchandise Manager Swimming World

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Hi there newcomer! I can’t say that I’m a veteran (in 4 years I’ve made about 6 tris) more like a lazy triathlete, but one thing I can garantee: If you need a real great book on triathlon (about ALL issues of the sport) just try The Endurance Athlete’s Edge by Marc Evans. I consider it as the bible of triathlon. Regards JML – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Please recommend some books for the newbie triathlete txs

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I’m looking for a handy little product that looks like a hip pack, but carries a water bottle right in the small of your back.  Since my runs are starting to lengthen a bit, some en route rehydrating would be very helpful.  I saw this on a runner that went zipping by me on a training run, so I know it exists.  Does anyone know of any manufacturers for this, or where I may be able to find one?  Thanks for any help.

I can’t seem to get away from them. They are everywhere, I recently saw them in an REI sale catalog. I got mine at a bike shop sale, its made by Trek and works great. — No Spam is good Spam. Stop bulk email now! Ironman Canada 1998 Rob Blomquist aka TriDog Seattle, WA http://www.accessone.com/~robb

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Try a web search of the big mail order catalogs; I got mine from one of them: California Best Performance Nashbar Road Runner Sports Holabird Sports Good Luck!  I’ve had mine for five years and it is holding up well. robert

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Try your local running store, I’ve seen them there hanging on racks, some hold one bottle, some 2 plus small compartment for ID, change, keys. Right now I just carry change and make sure my runs carry me past a 7-11 for a water stop.  THe belt sounds like a great idea, but I wonder about the weight (of a full wter bottle) pulling on your back? Any one had any experiences???

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Try your local running store, I’ve seen them there hanging on racks, some hold one bottle, some 2 plus small compartment for ID, change, keys. Right now I just carry change and make sure my runs carry me past a 7-11 for a water stop.  THe belt sounds like a great idea, but I wonder about the weight (of a full wter bottle) pulling on your back? Any one had any experiences???

I’ve got a single bottle pack that I wear on all my runs – it works great as long as you have it tight enough.  If it loosens up (or is sized to loose) it will rotate around your waist, which bugs the hell out of me. Tom Larwa

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Wear one on my long runs (Pearl Izumi).  Fits terrifically.  Since it is designed to sit right in the small of your back, it doesn’t really move around at all.  Of course you have to keep it pretty snug, but after I got used to the fluid sloshing around on my back I love it.  In fact, this could be a pretty good form monitor, the less you slosh, the better your form…I know I should have gone into marketing. I’ve also trained my English Setter to drink from my water bottle too.  I may have to upgrade to a two bottle pack because she gets pretty thirsty and doesn’t leave anything for me, oh well…;) Jeff "The only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary." -Vidal Sasson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Try your local running store, I’ve seen them there hanging on racks, some hold one bottle, some 2 plus small compartment for ID, change, keys. Right now I just carry change and make sure my runs carry me past a 7-11 for a water stop.  THe belt sounds like a great idea, but I wonder about the weight (of a full wter bottle) pulling on your back? Any one had any experiences???

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Try a web search of the big mail order catalogs; I got mine from one of them: California Best Performance Nashbar Road Runner Sports Holabird Sports Good Luck!  I’ve had mine for five years and it is holding up well. robert

One thing to look for is for the belt to be as wide as the bottle pocket. It will taper from the pocket towards the front where it will become only 1" or so. The first one I ever bought had only a 1" belt all the way around and the bottle would bounce around, as there was nothing to hold it snug. — Jim AntiSpam Alert: Remove X in address when replying.

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: Wear one on my long runs (Pearl Izumi).  Fits terrifically.  Since it : is designed to sit right in the small of your back, it doesn’t really : move around at all.  Of course you have to keep it pretty snug, but : after I got used to the fluid sloshing around on my back I love it.  In : fact, this could be a pretty good form monitor, the less you slosh, the : better your form…I know I should have gone into marketing. i’ve got an ultimate that i really like.  i get so used to drinking all the time that the 2-mile stops in races seem too far apart… -dp

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I use a single bottle belt on short runs. On long runs 6-15 miles I wear a Camelback Go-Be which fits in the small of the back and holds 50 ounces (a little more than two large bottles). This works great as long as you tighten the straps a little as the bladder empties. It also has pockets for keys, gels, and a large one for a jacket. Wouldn’t think of running without it now. Mark Rinaldi Inland Inferno Triathlon Club

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I’m looking for a handy little product that looks like a hip pack, but carries a water bottle right in the small of your back.  Since my runs are starting to lengthen a bit, some en route rehydrating would be very helpful.  I saw this on a runner that went zipping by me on a training run, so I know it exists.  Does anyone know of any manufacturers for this, or where I may be able to find one?  Thanks for any help.

You’re talking about Ultimate Direction torso packs.  You can pick one up at most running/sporting goods stores, and you can probably order one from any myriad of places on the web.  Here’s one site I found that has ‘em: http://www.lainet.com/pro/hpages/trn_acc/ultbottle.html Cheers— Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 *** http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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I’m looking for a handy little product that looks like a hip pack, but carries a water bottle right in the small of your back.  Since my runs are starting to lengthen a bit, some en route rehydrating would be very helpful.  I saw this on a runner that went zipping by me on a training run, so I know it exists.  Does anyone know of any manufacturers for this, or where I may be able to find one?  Thanks for any help. — Chris Kinney  –  Dragon MechE – Nokia Mobile Phones Everybody hurts during the race. Whoever deals with the pain best, wins. Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking for a handy little product that looks like a hip pack, but carries a water bottle right in the small of your back.  Since my runs are starting to lengthen a bit, some en route rehydrating would be very helpful.  I saw this on a runner that went zipping by me on a training run, so I know it exists.  Does anyone know of any manufacturers for this, or where I may be able to find one?  Thanks for any help. — Chris Kinney  –  Dragon MechE – Nokia Mobile Phones Everybody hurts during the race. Whoever deals with the pain best, wins. Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

The model I know is called the Ultimate, they make several different styles, one, two, or three bottle models.  You can get them from Road Runner Sports or Worlds Toughest(800-441-1278)  I would try road Runner first as they are cheaper.  The one you are looking for is called the Ultimate Direction Solo.  The bottle holds 22oz and has a couple of zippered pockets.  I use mine all the time. gil gilliland

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

Hey there Dave in Springfield.  I’m John in Springfield.  I’ve done Columbia 2x. It is a tough course and it’s early in the season.  The water may be cold.  The last year I did the race, 1994, I was one of two people in my heat who did not wear a wetsuit.  So get one if you don’t have one.  Personally, I don’t believe in them. The swim finishes into the sun. Well, I take that back. It did in 1993, but they changed the swim course so that in 1994 it was a point to point.  The bike has some wild hills.  Steep downs and long ups.  The run also has several big hills about mile 2 and 5.2.  The race itself is well run.  Have a great time. Jeb — //__   , Real triathletes don’t draft or wear wetsuits!

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I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

I lived in Columbia until recently and haved ridden the bike course many, many times.  I would definitely recommend riding it beforehand – just be careful riding on your own since it’s quite hilly and narrow and has gotten more congested over the years (with car traffic).  It’s a popular route, however, and you’ll most likely hook up with other riders fairly quickly.  The run course is also very hilly – but not nearly as hazardous regarding traffic.  Lots of runners at Centennial Park at all times.  One other note – you are not allowed to swim in the lake in general.  Good luck in the race!  Tom

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I just rode the bike course today.  I hope that when Vigo does the seeding he looks at that little box that says "First timer" and takes our projected times with a grain or two of salt. Paul Gimbel "Try-Athlete"

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(Stiffprop) writes: I’ll be doing the Columbia (MD) Tri for the first time this year and could really use some advice, information, personal experiences, etc.  I know it’s a big race, numbers-wise, but it is well run?  How tough is the course?  Is sighting or overcrowding in the water any problem?  Thanks for the help, see you May 18! Dave Springfield, VA

Columbia is a great race. You swim into the sun for the first part of it which is tough for navigation but then you turn and go the opposite direction so most of the swim is fine.  The first time I did it the swim start sucked – all the women went in one wave and some of the "elites" who aren’t great swimmers started in the front and caused a major log jam. I got my leg pulled back and goggles yanked off. Brutal. After 200 yards it broke up and the rest was fine. Bike is pretty hilly and scenic. Fun as long as the roads aren’t wet. Run is HARD. Very hilly and since I last did it (Natls in ‘94?) I heard it got even hillier.  I’ve never seen so many people walking in a race! If you get a chance you should go to Centennial Park and ride the course followed by a run.  Last April I went there and triathletes & duathletes were coming and going every 15 mins or so.  I waited til I found a couple people who were planning on doing the bike course in 1:25 to 1:30 and rode with them.  The race app has a map in case you don’t want to ride with others.  I must have seen at least 15-20 others out on the course with aero bars on the out and back portion of the bike course. Have fun! -hug

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I lived in Columbia until recently and haved ridden the bike course many, many times.  I would definitely recommend riding it beforehand – just be careful riding on your own since it’s quite hilly and narrow and has gotten more congested over the years (with car traffic).  It’s a popular route, however, and you’ll most likely hook up with other riders fairly quickly.  The run course is also very hilly – but not nearly as hazardous regarding traffic.  Lots of runners at Centennial Park at all times.  One other note – you are not allowed to swim in the lake in general.  Good luck in the race!  Tom

Columbia is my favorite race of my season.  It is challenging, but it is fun none the less.  Definitely run and ride on hills -any hills, before you arrive so your not surprised.  Hopefully the water will be warmer this year than in the past because of the mild winter. It is the best run triathlon that I have ever been to.   Peter Viola

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Columbia is my favorite race of my season.  It is challenging, but it is fun none the less.  Definitely run and ride on hills -any hills, before you arrive so your not surprised.  Hopefully the water will be warmer this year than in the past because of the mild winter. It is the best run triathlon that I have ever been to. Peter Viola

THe winter wont influence the lake temp. It is a very shallow lake, temps and the amount of sun or rain will greatly influence the water temp. In the past ten years the weather has varied between blistering heat to freezing cold. But the Hills never seem to get smaller. TriRef

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I’m toying with the idea of hiring a personal trainer to help me get back in shape for triathlons–any recommendations?

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I’m toying with the idea of hiring a personal trainer to help me get back in shape for triathlons–any recommendations?

Check this site.. http://www.d2.com/peterz/

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make sure the trainer is certified by a REPUTABLE organization (UCLA, ACE, NASM, etc.) and be sure he/she understands the demands of an endurance athlete who trains almost every day. it will be crucial to find the time to rest your muscles. scott

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To the one searching for a personal trainer in Hermosa Beach — Sounds like you’re looking for someone like Joy Leutner, the longtime pro (maybe 14 years???) who now lives out there (Hermosa Beach itself, I think — moved out there four years ago from Pennsylvania). Steve Harad, you keep in touch withJoy, right? Maybe you could get these two together? Katherine Williams The 1997 Triathlon Sourcebook

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actually, joy & her husband relocated to texas several months ago, but i believe she still does coaching via fax, etc.    i don’t know if the texas venture is long term or short.   she’s been great, even long-distance, for the friends who have used her expertise, & sweet as the day is long.

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Can anyone help me locate a book about running titled, "Ten Million Steps" by Paul Reese?  It was referenced in Joe Henderson’s book, "Better Runs."  I think the author was a distance/ultradistance runner. Anyone who has a copy or could identify the publisher for me, I would be deeply appreciative.  Thanks! I did try Amazon.com but they don’t even show it in their database. Kevin

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Can anyone help me locate a book about running titled, "Ten Million Steps" by Paul Reese?  It was referenced in Joe Henderson’s book, "Better Runs."  I think the author was a distance/ultradistance runner. Anyone who has a copy or could identify the publisher for me, I would be deeply appreciative.  Thanks! I did try Amazon.com but they don’t even show it in their database.

Ten Million Steps was published by WRS Publishing but they’ve gotten out of the business of publishing books about inspiring people like Paul Reese, so Ten Million Steps is out of print and no more copies are available. For books on running, you should always first try The Athlete’s Bookstore at http://www.stevenscreek.com/books.  Prices (once you include shipping, especially) are always better at The Athlete’s Bookstore than at Amazon, and in addition we have all the titles on running, cycling, triathlon, and other fitness topics in stock, since we’re a specialty store, unlike Amazon. To subscribe to our monthly e-mail newsletter, you can visit our Web site Subject "Add Me"; please include your real name in the body of the e-mail if it’s not part of your mail header. As for the book in question, we did carry Ten Million Steps, but sold our last copy some time ago. Sorry. Steve Patt The Athlete’s Bookstore

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I CURRENTLY USE LOOK PEDALS.  ARE SPEEDPLAYS WORTH THE CHANGE AND THE MONEY? IF SO, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO HAS THE BEST DEAL ON THEM OR DO YOU HAVE THEM FOR SALE?  IF SO, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! THANKS FOR THE HELP-NIK

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I switched about a month ago.  Speedplays are much easier to get in and out of, so you won’t have those "timber" experiences your first time.   They are also much lighter, and the rotating head doesn’t need to be on any particular side. This makes a huge difference, especially on steep grades-when you want to get in and out.  Although I don’t have knee problems, I have seen posts in the past that over time, Look pedals aggravate and cause damage to some people’s knees. I think they are worth it, I kept my Looks on what is now my beater bike, and that is on the trainer.  You can interchange the two with an adaptor. My bike shop changed my pedals and let me demo them, I was allowed to take them for a week, but I was convinced after  a 10 minute ride around the shop. Find a shop that will make similar arrangements, only you can decide if it works for you. Regards, Lee Rudin SF Bay Area Triathlon Training Sites http://www.slip.net/~leeway/

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In response to your question:  I used to use look pedals too.  I just put together a new bike and got a pair of speedplays.  The weight difference is incredible.  At first I thought I wasn’t going to like them because of the floatation.  I just got them after the World Championships but I am already used to the floatation.  I like them a lot better now since I have ridden on them.  I hope I helped you out. David K. $cott

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On April 30, 1995, the triathlon in Corpus Christi, TX, began at 7 am with a rough ocean water swim, and it was during the swim that he apparently suffered a heart attack. I heard that he was quickly rescued and transported to the hospital, but didn’t survive. I competed that day, but don’t have any other details.

I’ll add this great man to my prayers! I know how you feel, a member of my Y had a heart attack during a swim & drowned in a local tri a few years back. His age – 30! The pool I train in was renamed in his honor. I count my lucky stars every time I pass the plaque in the pool & complete the swim in that tri. He showed us that you can keep the athletic spirit alive, no matter what your age. I wish I had more fitting words,

Your words were veru fitting. – Eric Bruce

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Last weekend witnessed the death of a great man in the sport of triathlon. He was in his early 70’s and had competed in over 30 triathlons (out of respect for the family I will not use his name). On April 30, 1995, the triathlon in Corpus Christi, TX, began at 7 am with a rough ocean water swim, and it was during the swim that he apparently suffered a heart attack. I heard that he was quickly rescued and transported to the hospital, but didn’t survive. I competed that day, but don’t have any other details. I never knew him personally, but knew of him. He was a Texas legend. He showed us that you can keep the athletic spirit alive, no matter what your age. I wish I had more fitting words, but all I can think of is, "we’ll really miss you". I wish to extend my deepest sympathy to his family and friends.         Mark A. Jenkins, M.D.         http://riceinfo.rice.edu/~jenkins

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I’m planning to run the S.F. Marathon this summer, but I don’t anything about the course.  Can anyone share their insight with me????  I’m from Minnesota, and need to know what type of training would be most useful. Thanks!

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: I’m planning to run the S.F. Marathon this summer, but I don’t anything : about the course.  Can anyone share their insight with me????  I’m from : Minnesota, and need to know what type of training would be most useful. : Thanks! I have a friend who’s planning on running too and is familiar with the Bay Area. Would you like her e-mail? Get back to me and I’ll check with her in the meantime if it’s ok to give address.

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I ran it a couple of years ago, and it was a nightmare.  Now, things may have improved.  The course itself is sort of hilly, as you would expect, but there are alot of flat places.  You have to get to the start 2 hours before it begins, and it is FREEZING.  You are happy to start running to warm up.  The next bad part I remember is running along the ocean.  We were running against this wind, and it was killing us.  Then there is this long strip where we just run about 2 1/2 miles, and then turn around. After the race there was nothing to eat and only water and watered down gatorade mixed in a trash can.  It must be getting better, but I would check it out before committing.  There are plenty of nice marathons out there.  St. George is one of my favorites.  I guess if you want a summer marathon and want to go to San Francisco, then that is the one, but be prepared for anything.  Don’t go for a PR…

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I need this year’s date and contact # for the SF Marathon.

July 9, 1995 (415) 391-2123 — + System Administrator            Premenos Corporation +

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I need this year’s date and contact # for the SF Marathon. Thanks in advance for any help, Jim U’Ren

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i just ran over to my spring issue of "footnotes" and looked up the date for the san francisco marathon. ta-da! here it is…it will be held on july 9 (as well as a 5K). the course: begins on the golden gate bridge and travels throughout 26.2 miles of san francisco landmarks and neighborhoods. entry fee: $35.00 if postmarked by may 29th            $45.00 if postmarked by june 26th            $55.oo if you register at the expo USATF card MANDATORY for race (not 5K), call 916-983-4622 for USA Track and Field athlete membership for more info, call: 916-983-4622 or write                san francisco marathon                c/o pacific association                p.o. box 77148                san francisco, CA 94107 good luck, and have fun… pauline

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: I forgot it: when is the SFO Marathon exactly? : Tks in advance. : Willem : Bussum, The Netherlands     Sunday,July 9 7:30 a.m.

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| I forgot it: when is the SFO Marathon exactly? | Tks in advance. | Willem | Bussum, The Netherlands | July 9th 7:30AM San Francisco Marathon PO Box 77148 San Francisco, CA  94107 (415) 391-2123 — + System Administrator            Premenos Corporation +

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I forgot it: when is the SFO Marathon exactly? Tks in advance. Willem Bussum, The Netherlands

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July 9th, 1994

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The San Francisco Marathon is July 9, 1995. For Info call 916-983-4622 Vince

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I want to run SF in July.  What do you know about the course?  Is it terribly hilly?  This will be my first marathon. Thanks for any info. PJ

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I want to run SF in July.  What do you know about the course?  Is it terribly hilly?  This will be my first marathon. Thanks for any info. PJ

 I ran it three years. First year it beat me, I wasn’t trained. There massive hill at mile 13. The course will hurt you at the end since you run the last 3-4 miles into the Golden Gate Park which is slightly uphill. The only course I have run that is tougher is Big Sur.  Don’t let the fact its tough dicourage you, I have found the tougher course to be more rewarding when completed.  Good Luck!  -Tom-

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:  Does anyone know the date of the 1995 S.F. Marathon (or who to contact for : information)? July 9th —

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 Does anyone know the date of the 1995 S.F. Marathon (or who to contact for information)?  Also, does anyone know of any good marathons in the Pacific Northwest in August?

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I will be running the San Francisco marathon for the first time on 7-9-95. I will be visiting from New York and would appreciate any info on the course and the race in general.      I am also interested in sharing a ride to and from the race . I’ll be staying in the Woodside area, south of S.F.      Please post race info or respond about transportation via e mail.         Thanks,                    Dan Pasternak

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I’ve done the SF marathon 4 times. It is not a PR course. There are hills and it can be a very windy course. The plus side is you get to run through various ethic sections of the city. Running across the Golden Gate bridge is a great experience. Good luck and enjoy.

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: I’ve done the SF marathon 4 times. It is not a PR course. There are hills : and : it can be a very windy course. The plus side is you get to run through : various ethic sections of the city. Running across the Golden Gate bridge : is a great experience. : Good luck and enjoy.    The only steep hill on the current course in the Haight Street hill which,if I read the map correctly , comes around mile 14.

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I’m thinking seriously about going out to San Francisco for this year’s marathon, and I have a favor to ask. Can someone who’s run this marathon in the past please describe the course route to me?  I used to live in the SF Bay area, and I am familiar with The City.  So, even a general description of the course would be sufficient. Thanks.  And, as always, please respond in e-mail so as to not offend the net cops… — Paul

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: Does anyone know about the course?  I tried to find a website for them : but have had no luck. : jd This is all I could find: Sunday, July 9, 2000    The Chronicle Marathon (San Francisco)    7am-Marathon, $50 by 3/31, $60 by 6/1, $70 after 6/1/2000    w/shirt, goodybag, finisher medal. Speedway Meadow,    Golden Gate Park; loop course, 5.5 hour course limit. 13.1    X 2 half-marathon team comp., $80, $90 after 3/31, $100 after    6/1 w/t-s, goody bag, medal. 4-person relay, $120, $150 after    6/15 & at Expo w/t-s,. Health and Fitness Expo on Fri/Sat    at Ft. Mason. Chronicle Marathon, PO Box 828, Rialto, 92377.

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Website: http://bayarearaces.com/chronicle/ Almost 200 ft climb from mile 24 to 26.2; not too bad right now but at mile 24 it’s gonna feel like Everest! Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Does anyone know about the course?  I tried to find a website for them : but have had no luck. : jd This is all I could find: Sunday, July 9, 2000    The Chronicle Marathon (San Francisco)    7am-Marathon, $50 by 3/31, $60 by 6/1, $70 after 6/1/2000    w/shirt, goodybag, finisher medal. Speedway Meadow,    Golden Gate Park; loop course, 5.5 hour course limit. 13.1    X 2 half-marathon team comp., $80, $90 after 3/31, $100 after    6/1 w/t-s, goody bag, medal. 4-person relay, $120, $150 after    6/15 & at Expo w/t-s,. Health and Fitness Expo on Fri/Sat    at Ft. Mason. Chronicle Marathon, PO Box 828, Rialto, 92377.

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Does anyone know about the course?  I tried to find a website for them but have had no luck. jd

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It’s been renamed The Chronicle Marathon, as of the 1999 running.  There is, or at least was, as website at goldengate.com of sfgate.com.  If you find the SF Chronicle website or search under The Chronicle Marathon you’ll likely find it. The course is a nice scenic tour of SF.  Unfortunately, it no longer starts at the Marin headlands and therefore does not cross the GG Bridge.  It now starts and finishes at the Polo Fields in GG Park.

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                           SAN FRANCISCO MARATHON      I’ve completed it the last 4 years with Lake Merced and the Great      Highway. This region is where the change takes place. I’ve seen the      new course- any opinions, thoughts, or concerns?

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                          SAN FRANCISCO MARATHON     I’ve completed it the last 4 years with Lake Merced and the Great     Highway. This region is where the change takes place. I’ve seen the     new course- any opinions, thoughts, or concerns?

I ran last year (tough course!), and would like to hear the new course. It is the only marathon I have run that was cool enough for me to finish strongly. — –peter gross (303)-447-1374

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Is there a website for this event?

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Is there a website for this event?

 i did a search from www.excite.com and came up with the non-intuitive: http://www.citysearch7.com/E/V/SFOCA/0010/04/79/5.html Good luck maybe i’ll be seein’ ya there (i’m thinking about doing it me self!) -ben

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I’m considering the San Francisco Marathon on July 13 as my first marathon. Any information from someone who has run this marathon would be greatly appreciated. I’ve selected it primarily because of the date, but am worried it might have killer hills. L Risley

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The hills are not too bad.  There is a really major one (about 1/2-mile long?) at about halfway. Lots of people just walked up it, and that was the section of the course that people complained about afterwards. But I have very fond memories of the course– I ran my PR. I dont think the course is necessarily any more challenging than any other marathon course that I have run. good luck! eric

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I’m considering the San Francisco Marathon on July 13 as my first marathon. Any information from someone who has run this marathon would be greatly appreciated. I’ve selected it primarily because of the date, but am worried it might have killer hills.

Try: http://www.slip.net/~leeway/marathons.html Yes, there are two steep hills, and not in the first 1/2 like you would want them. Several other CA marathons are listed that you can also consider. Regards, Lee Rudin San Francisco Bay Area Triathlon Training Sites http://www.slip.net/~leeway/

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About the SF marathon: I ran the ‘93 edition and liked it.  The course it really pretty, takes you through all the great places of SanFran.< Considering the location of this race – is the course really hilly? I’m   looking for a possible "1st marathon" and would like my first 26 miles to   be fairly flat! Marilyn

I ran it as my first marathon a couple of years ago,and really liked it but i was not quite prepared for the hills and should have saved more for the end. The race does not lack for interesting SF scenery (a good thing in a first marathon!). The course starts downhill over the golden gate bridge into the city and is basically flat-ish until about mile 10 or 12 or so. Then comes the *famous* Hayes street hill (made famous by the Bay to Breakers 12K race)- this is about a 300 foot climb in about a mile- not a killer but you should slow down on it (after all, more than half the miles are left.) The second half has a lot of rolling hills so this is probably not a good race for a novice to expect to run a negative split. As others have mentioned the support is very good (massages at the finish  ), the stadium finish has a big time feel and they give each finisher a medal which is great for the ego and a great keepsake esp. for a first marathon. Also, the weather is almost certain to be comfortable. When I ran it it was 55 degrees start to finish! Enjoy the race! -Chad

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| I ran it as my first marathon a couple of years ago,and really liked it but | i was not quite prepared for the hills and should have saved more for the | end. The race does not lack for interesting SF scenery (a good thing in a | first marathon!). The course starts downhill over the golden gate bridge | into the city and is basically flat-ish until about mile 10 or 12 or so. | Then comes the *famous* Hayes street hill (made famous by the Bay to | Breakers 12K race)- this is about a 300 foot climb in about a mile- not a | killer but you should slow down on it (after all, more than half the miles | are left.) The second half has a lot of rolling hills so this is probably | not a good race for a novice to expect to run a negative split. As others | have mentioned the support is very good (massages at the finish  ), the | stadium finish has a big time feel and they give each finisher a medal | which is great for the ego and a great keepsake esp. for a first marathon. | Also, the weather is almost certain to be comfortable. When I ran it it was | 55 degrees start to finish! | Enjoy the race! | | -Chad Note: Chad’s description is for the course in ‘90 (and later), but not the "new" course that they used in ‘93. It was much warmer than 55 degrees! Silicon Graphics Inc., M/S 120                        Phone:(415)390-5822 P.O. Box 7311, 1295 Charleston Road                   FAX:  (415)962-1589 Mt. View, CA  94039-7311                                "I (heart) Tonks"

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