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Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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When I first saw the title, I thought Carmen meant she wanted me to pee outside, instead of on the newspaper like I usually do. *S* RUFF! Q — "Pa, just what can you do with a grown woman?" – Opie Taylor

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Pardon my ignorance, but what is " ‘cacheing"????? JD

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later!

It’s Southern California, so the weather is always good. I went outside anyway to take Drum the dog for a walk and discovered that Wilshire Blvd, the main thoroughfare right by my house is closed to auto traffic for the third time this year. The museums of museum row are apparently having some kind of street fair. The traffic will likely be abyssmal, though nowhere near as bad as the marathon or the triathalon (they both circled the house, within three blocks, on three sides, and ultimately formed a complete loop, which to escape, one needed to drive 4 miles, hop on the interstate, and then drive back… just to cross the street). Drum the dog was unaffected and happy as always. (I want a brain transplant with my dog… the guy is pure serotonin… he dreams more often than me, and doesn’t have periods where he just doesn’t want to do things. He is always up for play & exercise, and sleeps when no one else is interested. If you could bottle dog personality for people, you’d put pfizer and merck out of business. — Max L. Harris – ANA since 8/8/02 — 250/219.5/~185 Internet Ad Copyeditor & Proofreader… $5/word Send your ad to: Yahoo! Messenger: Maxlharris "Fall, glimmer, sparkle, and fade." -Everclear "Summerland"

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Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! — Take care, Carmen

Is ‘casheing something like snipe hunting? Peter — website:  http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/marengo

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I think it involve "find the treasure" using a GPS and some kind of map or something.  People hide stuff, you find it, then leave something else, or something like that.

::: Hello All, ::: If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am ::: right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later! ::: It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the ::: family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! ::: ::: — ::: Take care, ::: Carmen :: :: Is ‘casheing something like snipe hunting? :: :: Peter :: — :: website:  http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/marengo

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I have days I’d LOVE that bottled dog personality stuff. lol

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What is ‘caching’? It’s Geocaching, and it’s a fun way to get outside and see the little-known parts of your community, state, nation and the world! See this link: http://www.geocaching.com/ I’m on Team Gilligan, team consisting of DH and I, my mom and dad, and our kids. And any friends and relatives who want to tag along. I was so pleased to learn that Carmen caches too! Roco

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Hi Quasi, When I first saw the title, I thought Carmen meant she wanted me to pee outside, instead of on the newspaper like I usually do. *S*

You’re paper trained?  I’m impressed. <G — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Hi Jeanette, Pardon my ignorance, but what is " ‘cacheing"?????

"Cacheing" is my misspelling of "caching" (oops) which is a shortened version of "geocaching".  We use GPS units (Global Positioning Systems) to sort of "treasure hunt" for "caches" hidden by other people who cache.  The GPS units are used to find the items using the latitude and longtiude the "hider" gives to locate it.  When you find it you usually swap some little trinket of yours for one in the cache, sign the logbook (found in almost all caches) and then go to "geocaching.com" to log the find.  It gets you out in the fresh air and sunshine, and you can choose the difficulty level (for terrain for example) that you think yourself capable of that day.  Today we did a couple that involved some serious climbing, and some that anyone capable of *walking* could do.  Caching rocks! <G — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Hi Max, Dogs are so cool.  The vast majority of them are just bundles of love, slobber and "isn’t the world great" attitude.  Our lifestyle isn’t such that we could always give a dog the care it deserves, so we’re strictly a cat family right now.  The time for a dog will come, though.  :-) — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Hi Peter, Is ‘casheing something like snipe hunting?

<G  I suppose it could be for a clueless newbie.  Did someone take you snipe hunting? — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Lucky you!  The winds picked up quite heavily where I am and I swear I saw Dorothy and Toto swirling by. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello All, If you’re lucky enough to be having kick-butt weather like I am right now give the computer a break and answer your posts later!  It’s 66 degrees (F) and 46% humidity with bright sunshine – the family and I are goin’ ‘cacheing.  Later! — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Thanks for the explanation.  I’ve never heard of it, but it sounds like fun. JD

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Jeanette, Pardon my ignorance, but what is " ‘cacheing"????? "Cacheing" is my misspelling of "caching" (oops) which is a shortened version of "geocaching".  We use GPS units (Global Positioning Systems) to sort of "treasure hunt" for "caches" hidden by other people who cache. The GPS units are used to find the items using the latitude and longtiude the "hider" gives to locate it.  When you find it you usually swap some little trinket of yours for one in the cache, sign the logbook (found in almost all caches) and then go to "geocaching.com" to log the find.  It gets you out in the fresh air and sunshine, and you can choose the difficulty level (for terrain for example) that you think yourself capable of that day.  Today we did a couple that involved some serious climbing, and some that anyone capable of *walking* could do.  Caching rocks! <G — Take care, Carmen If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. Steven Wright

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Pardon my ignorance, but what is " ‘cacheing"?

See <http://geocaching.com/faq.asp.  Another c00l pastime involving GPS is found on <http://confluence.org/.  Enjoy!   // Klaus —  M42

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I think the are suffering some font/browser incompatibilities! I see it as "72.5s seat tube angle". Often a "?" is substituted for an unknown symbol – I get it lots with "’s. Whatever the angle is, you can take my word for it that it is entirely a road-race frame.

confoosed.  QR showed a bike at interbike this year that was the one i was describing, sort of an almost-tri-more-than-road bike.  closest thing that comes to mind is c’dale’s r1000 aero.  but nobody much wanted it, so they ended up dropping it, and just concentrating on their flagship tri bikes. the 202 was built the year before, and is basically just an aluminum version of the 101, which was a steel bike in a traditional road geometry. slowman

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the feedback, but according to: http://www.totalfitnessbath.com/products/bikes/quintana2.html the 202 has a 72.5 degree seat-tube and is really a road frameset. actually, the website says… "72.5? seat tube angle" …which means they’re sort of like us, they’re not sure either.  it’s possible that they were making the assumption that the 202 has the same geometry as the 101 of a couple of years ago, which was entirely a road race bike.  it was my understanding that this was not supposed to be the case.  but i might be wrong.  even the 101 was not 72.5 degrees, tho, in all sizes, just in the largest sizes. slowman

I think the are suffering some font/browser incompatibilities! I see it as "72.5s seat tube angle". Often a "?" is substituted for an unknown symbol – I get it lots with "’s. Whatever the angle is, you can take my word for it that it is entirely a road-race frame. Anyway, I’m only replying on such minor points as an excuse to ask you a couple of questions about triathlon/TT bike fit. I’m beginning to sort out my road position, which has taken a surprisingly long time, and want to know if one or two things I have learned can be accommodated into riding in a more aerodynamic position. Firstly, I have found that as I have lost weight and become more flexible, I can ride with my hips sort of rotated back so that I take more of my weight on my sit-bones and off my perineum and hands. This means that my back is arched more, but I can stay in the saddle longer and may even have found a little more power. Related to this is the amount of weight I support on the front-end. I have experienced several nasty handling problems which I attribute in part to having lots of weight on the front (I was 265 now 225lbs). I have found being rearward on my bike generally more stable, particularly while descending. So basically my questions are, is it possible to ride with rearward rotated hips on a tri-bike and keep down the weight at the front? — Baker Atlas GEOScience      Tel: +44 (0)208 202 2433 154 Brent Street,           FAX: +44 (0)208 202 2287 London, NW4 2DR, ENGLAND.   WWW: http://www.zands.com

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Thanks for the feedback, but according to: http://www.totalfitnessbath.com/products/bikes/quintana2.html the 202 has a 72.5 degree seat-tube and is really a road frameset.

actually, the website says… "72.5? seat tube angle" …which means they’re sort of like us, they’re not sure either.  it’s possible that they were making the assumption that the 202 has the same geometry as the 101 of a couple of years ago, which was entirely a road race bike.  it was my understanding that this was not supposed to be the case.  but i might be wrong.  even the 101 was not 72.5 degrees, tho, in all sizes, just in the largest sizes. slowman

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve already got a 202. I am curious about the geometry because I want to get a custom frame made and particularly like the angles on my QR. I also like the Carbonaero forks and the colour as i recall, this is a sort of olympic-style bike, in a way.  more road geometry than tri, almost a crit bike (perhaps even a slight bit more aggressive).  it should be ridden with road race bars and a shorty clip-on (like a profile jammer).  it sort of takes the place of the monitor of a couple of years ago, which was a pretty effective draft-legal bike. it was also expected to be a bigger UK seller than a US seller. slowman

Thanks for the feedback, but according to: http://www.totalfitnessbath.com/products/bikes/quintana2.html the 202 has a 72.5 degree seat-tube and is really a road frameset. I didn’t realise the geometry was so relaxed, but as I said, I do find it suits me. At least I feel very comfortable over long distances. I have tried steaper seat-tube frames before, and while I could get a lot of power down, I found the position unbearable. I want to do my first IM distance race this year and it looks like a standard road set-up is the way I will go, though while I still have time, I wouldn’t mind finding out if I can get comfortable in a more aero position. — Baker Atlas GEOScience      Tel: +44 (0)208 202 2433 154 Brent Street,           FAX: +44 (0)208 202 2287 London, NW4 2DR, ENGLAND.   WWW: http://www.zands.com

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I haven’t heard anything about the 202, but I heard the 101 would be available with essentially road geometry (73/73 angles) and targeted primarily for Europe.  Hopefully QR/Litespeed/JHK will get the website updated soon. Note that the Cervelo Solo is a pretty trick bike with a similar profile.

I’ve already got a 202. I am curious about the geometry because I want to get a custom frame made and particularly like the angles on my QR. I also like the Carbonaero forks and the colour — Baker Atlas GEOScience      Tel: +44 (0)208 202 2433 154 Brent Street,           FAX: +44 (0)208 202 2287 London, NW4 2DR, ENGLAND.   WWW: http://www.zands.com

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I’ve already got a 202. I am curious about the geometry because I want to get a custom frame made and particularly like the angles on my QR. I also like the Carbonaero forks and the colour

as i recall, this is a sort of olympic-style bike, in a way.  more road geometry than tri, almost a crit bike (perhaps even a slight bit more aggressive).  it should be ridden with road race bars and a shorty clip-on (like a profile jammer).  it sort of takes the place of the monitor of a couple of years ago, which was a pretty effective draft-legal bike. it was also expected to be a bigger UK seller than a US seller. slowman

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Does any one know the geometry of a QR 202? I have looked at their web-site and could find no reference to the frame at all. — Baker Atlas GEOScience      Tel: +44 (0)208 202 2433 154 Brent Street,           FAX: +44 (0)208 202 2287 London, NW4 2DR, ENGLAND.   WWW: http://www.zands.com

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I haven’t heard anything about the 202, but I heard the 101 would be available with essentially road geometry (73/73 angles) and targeted primarily for Europe.  Hopefully QR/Litespeed/JHK will get the website updated soon. Note that the Cervelo Solo is a pretty trick bike with a similar profile. Does any one know the geometry of a QR 202? I have looked at their web-site and could find no reference to the frame at all. — Baker Atlas GEOScience      Tel: +44 (0)208 202 2433 154 Brent Street,           FAX: +44 (0)208 202 2287 London, NW4 2DR, ENGLAND.   WWW: http://www.zands.com

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SERIOUS is a revered book in the triathlon community, certainly in the top 3 of most widely read and accepted set of principles. — Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recently I began a training program that had me running for specific amounts of time at a certain intensity (i.e. heart rate).  I find that the program is a lot better for ME. (note how I ended with me and not better) Previously all training programs have been for distance.  My question to this group is people’s opinion’s on whether to run for distance or run for time. If anyone is interested the training program is called the SERIOUS program and is derived from a book called "SERIOUS Training for Endurance Athletes" by Rob Slaemaker and Ray Browning — Scott Fournier Please remove the underscore in my email when replying to this message

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All depends on your goal. Either one is good as long as you do it seriously.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recently I began a training program that had me running for specific amounts of time at a certain intensity (i.e. heart rate).  I find that the program is a lot better for ME. (note how I ended with me and not better) Previously all training programs have been for distance.  My question to this group is people’s opinion’s on whether to run for distance or run for time. If anyone is interested the training program is called the SERIOUS program and is derived from a book called "SERIOUS Training for Endurance Athletes" by Rob Slaemaker and Ray Browning — Scott Fournier Please remove the underscore in my email when replying to this message

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Recently I began a training program that had me running for specific amounts of time at a certain intensity (i.e. heart rate).  I find that the program is a lot better for ME. (note how I ended with me and not better) Previously all training programs have been for distance.  My question to this group is people’s opinion’s on whether to run for distance or run for time. If anyone is interested the training program is called the SERIOUS program and is derived from a book called "SERIOUS Training for Endurance Athletes" by Rob Slaemaker and Ray Browning — Scott Fournier Please remove the underscore in my email when replying to this message

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Definately worth it!  I bought the book/video. It was good and then I went to the workshop–even better.  I went to a refresher course a year later and learned a little more.  It is money well spent.  I did the Great Floridian Ironman last year and the swim (one hour two minutes) felt like a warm-up. Ironman Hawaii in 98′ was the same way.  The biggest improvement you’ll notice is how relaxed you are.  No more struggling in the water.  I have taught a few workshops on the same principles and those folks have gained a great deal.  I do not come from a swimming background.  But after 8 years of trying to learn from so called experts I decided it was worth the money.  I am glad I did it. Chris

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Chris As a swimming novice I bought the Total Immersion video and workbook and worked hard at the drills. My times have improved only slightly but the major difference I have found is how much more comfortable and relaxed I feel in the water.  I can now cover the 400 metre swim of a sprint tri in about 7 minutes and get out of the water feeling energized and eager for the bike.  Previous to following the Total Immersion program I was at about 7:30 for the 400 metres but I was a real "thrasher", and always gasping when I got out after the swim. The major improvement in my technique was the "balance" thing which seems to be the cornerstone of TI. I now take about 17 strokes over 25 metres and barely kick my legs – obviously a good thing for the cycle leg. I should say that in my case I did have to perservere over many months to get to this stage – contrary to many people’s comments I did not find it a quick process to correct the flaws in my old stroke. But it is worth the effort in the long run. I definitely recommend TI to any swimmer interested in improving their technique. Andy

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I am interested in training for a triathlon and although I have cycling experience I have no swimming experience.  I came across the Total Immersion Freestyle Video & Seminar Workbook (http://www.totalimmersion.net) at there web site and was wondering if anyone has used them or has any experience with them.  As a swimmer with no real experience, would these be beneficial?

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I am interested in training for a triathlon and although I have cycling experience I have no swimming experience.  I came across the Total Immersion Freestyle Video & Seminar Workbook (http://www.totalimmersion.net) at there web site and was wondering if anyone has used them or has any experience with them.  As a swimmer with no real experience, would these be

beneficial? The workbook is excellent — it’s an improved version of the "Total Immersion" trade paperback.  A number of the drills that had stymied me in the book are revised and better explained in the workbook. Do get the video also.  Much easier to visualize it when you can see it rather than just read.  Also, the imagery of Terry Laughlin gently gliding across a clear, blue pool with gentle music playing is extremely soothing when your nerves are jangled from too much hard training. <g Neither is a substitute for the class, but the class is almost 400 bucks … As a new swimmer, you may have to take it really slowly, but you also won’t have bad habits to unlearn.

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To whom it may concern: I am very interested in buying someone’s used computrainer. . . if they are interested in selling. . . . Please contact by phone or e-mail. . . Thanks in Advance! Mike Flynn

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USA Triathlon has a number of CompuTrainers for sale. If interested, contact Steve Locke USA Triathlon

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Hi everybody!! Just a quick note to let all of you know that I’m know into the taper period for my first marathon happening May 11th.  I’m so excited and still can’t believe that I’ve made it through all the training and that the big day is only 2 weeks away….

The very first marathon is a special event. I remember that I was so excited myself before entering my first one back in 1990. The very last words to you before the race; stay patient and do it primarily as an experience. Don’t go for an all-out one that can break your neck (or hitting the wall). You will get several options later to conduct how to get the ‘great’ times out there. Best of luck, Tore in Bergen, Norway who has just arrived back home after finished Boston Marathon for the second consecutive year. (This was my marathon #42 since 1990)

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The best of luck Ann! Let everyone know how how you do and how good it feels to get that medal! Jim

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Hi everybody!! Just a quick note to let all of you know that I’m know into the taper period for my first marathon happening May 11th.  I’m so excited and still can’t believe that I’ve made it through all the training and that the big day is only 2 weeks away…. [snip] for the past few weeks I’ve been going to bed at night thinking about the marathon and waking up in the morning and it’s the first thing on my mind…. I’ve never been so consumed with anything as much as this

Ann, One word of warning: As mentioned in Matthew Garcia’s "after marathon motivation" post, many people experience a big emotional let-down after completion of their first marathon (or any big event that has required such a long term focus). If you aren’t prepared for that "what now?" feeling, it can leave you depressed for a good while after your race. Start thinking right now about "what’s next". Start planning your recovery and rebuilding with a definite goal in mind. That way, after your big day, you’ll know right where you stand. You can say to yourself, "OK, now begins my x number of recovery weeks. I’ll follow that with xx weeks to re-establish my base. And that will prepare me to begin building to a new peak for Ann’s Next Big Race, which It doesn’t have to be a marathon. I seem to recall you posting a question about adding some speed. Maybe your next goal can be to set a new PR in the 5K. Or maybe you might want a new challenge, like triathlon or duathlon. Whatever you decide, start thinking about it now. Believe me, the elation which accompanies completion of your first (or latest) marathon only lasts a short time. Be prepared to move on to your next objective. You’ll be glad you did. Happy trails, Chris Christopher N. Baucom She said, "It’s really not my habit to intrude, and furthermore, I hope my meaning won’t be lost or misconstrued… — Paul Simon

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Good Luck. Just remember, start out slow. Don’t get caught up in your excitement. Have fun and let us know how you did. Mike "TriBop" Tennent WebRunner Running Page http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html My Model Railroad Page http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/srr/

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Hi everybody!! Just a quick note to let all of you know that I’m know into the taper period for my first marathon Ann

Excuse a silly swede, but what does "taper period" mean. Doesn

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Oh yeah, another question: what does "RST" stand for?                                         Le Toastman

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Sandman is this weekend in Gulf Shores AL.  The weekend of Oct 12th is the Santa Rosa Island Triathlon in Pensacola Florida (a new sprint race). And, as previously mentioned the Seaside SouthWalton Sportsfest is the first weekend in Nov.    After that races don’t start again until March & April (duathlon and triathlon that is).    For more information as races are coming up you can contact me, Karl Dauphinais–Gulf Coast Area Triathletes, or Therese Bynum’s Team Magic is out of Birmingham (they put on a lot of races, I don’t have the number on hand, but it should be in any triathlon mag).     Good luck Karl Dauphinais, Director, Gulf Coast Area Triathletes Box 922, Daphne, AL 36526  (334) 621-8318

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Does anyone know of any triathlons this fall in Tenn/Ala/Miss/Kentucky?  I just did my first Tri, the Music City Triathlon here in Nashville and would like to do one more short or international length one this season.  Oh yeah, another question: what does "RST" stand for?                                         Le Toastman

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Does anyone know of any triathlons this fall in Tenn/Ala/Miss/Kentucky?  I just did my first Tri, the Music City Triathlon here in Nashville and would like to do one more short or international length one this season.  Oh yeah, another question: what does "RST" stand for?                                         Le Toastman

Slim pickings until next spring. The first weekend in November their is weekend of activity in Flordia, near Destin. A dualathon, half marathon, 10k and sprint triathlon are held that weekend, Sportsfest is the name I think. Check the triathlon magazines, I recall an several ads for races in Georgia and South Carolina this fall. Gulf Shores, Alabama has the Sandman sprint this weekend. Jack Rawls

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I would just like to thank the Tri Fed officials, headed up by RST Charlie Crawford, for an excellent job officiating at Gulf Coast. Although there were several pelotons that went flying past me, the marshalls were close behind them taking photos and writing down numbers. I actually think the officials could have given out even more penalties! but I was happy to see them trying to break up the packs and keep the race fair for the rest of us. Cathy Corning

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I would just like to thank the Tri Fed officials, headed up by RST Charlie Crawford, for an excellent job officiating at Gulf Coast. Although there were several pelotons that went flying past me, the marshalls were close behind them taking photos and writing down numbers. I actually think the officials could have given out even more penalties! but I was happy to see them trying to break up the packs and keep the race fair for the rest of us. Cathy Corning

I second that.  Charlie and his crew had a huge presence during the race.  I saw at least one marshall going by on a motorcycle every 10-20 minutes. It amazes me what people will risk in order to draft.  Charlie made the Drafting rules extremely clear at the pre-race meal, and still people managed to get caught drafting in large quantities. Regards, Carlos Torres de Navarra Coral Gables, Florida

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I would just like to thank the Tri Fed officials, headed up by RST Charlie Crawford, for an excellent job officiating at Gulf Coast. Although there were several pelotons that went flying past me, the marshalls were close behind them taking photos and writing down numbers. I actually think the officials could have given out even more penalties! but I was happy to see them trying to break up the packs and keep the race fair for the rest of us. Cathy Corning

I was passed by a pack of 20+ at around the 35 mile mark. Before that I saw the odd drafter or two, but when I looked over my shoulder and saw the black cloud coming, I almost could not belive it. The complete disregard for rules and fair play by this group was disgusting.   I did think the static display of the drafting zone done by Charlie at meeting was a bit long, but then again, I can’t say I’ve pulled out my rulebook and measured. Still, there was plenty of room to race using your own power. I wish we did not need so much policing, but thanks to Charlie, Carol and the other officals for keeping an eye on the cheaters. Jack Rawls

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Could not agree more, Charlie Crawford is a great asset to this sport.  He is pro- fessional and his honesty is beyond reproach.  When I show up at a race at he is one of the officials or he head official I know it will be a fair race. Many thanks to Charlie and his crew, for a job well done. Mike Greer

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I too would have to agree that the tri-fed team at Gulf Coast was excellent… there was a lot of pack riding.  I had to work hard to keep out of a pack , which included going a pace slower than i wanted for a while as I couldn’t get around the pack.  Riders in this pack however did get penalized.  The tri fed officials took pictures of the pack as well. I’m sure they could have done more to penalize, but I think the message is getting out … drafting will not be tolerated and you will be penalized. I do think however that some courses, such as Gulf Coast , lend themselves to having more drafting due to the large field and a flat course.  I don’t know how to make races less draft likely except for making the races smaller, hilly courses, more time between heats, and maybe having heats with a variety of talent within them, i.e. not starting all people of same age group together. Gulf Coast Tri was a great race… very well run, excellent support by the volunteers and especially from the host city residents.   cindy gagnon p.s.  I got to try out my new FELT in the race and it was awesome.  I had my fastest bike split ever… and other racers comment on the bike as you pass them is also very good for your racing ego ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could not agree more, Charlie Crawford is a great asset to this sport.  He is pro- fessional and his honesty is beyond reproach.  When I show up at a race at he is one of the officials or he head official I know it will be a fair race. Many thanks to Charlie and his crew, for a job well done. Mike Greer

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Drafting can be stopped … all we need is more dedicated officals like Charlie Crawford and company.  I had the pleasure of meeting Charlie at a small rst post-race gathering organized by Cathy Corning.  Charlie was almost an hour late because not only did he spend 3 hours writing up all the drafting reports, he then had to spend another several hours listening to those who had been caugth complain about the unfairness of it and how there must be some mistake. All I can say is that Charlie is an extremely nice individual who obviously cares a great deal about the sport of triathlon. Thank you Charlie for a job well done. Lucy Edens

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Drafting can be stopped … all we need is more dedicated officals like Charlie Crawford and company.  I had the pleasure of meeting Charlie at a small rst post-race gathering organized by Cathy Corning.  Charlie was almost an hour late because not only did he spend 3 hours writing up all the drafting reports, he then had to spend another several hours listening to those who had been caugth complain about the unfairness of it and how there must be some mistake. All I can say is that Charlie is an extremely nice individual who obviously cares a great deal about the sport of triathlon. Thank you Charlie for a job well done. Lucy Edens

Hear, hear! I was not fortunate enough to race at Gulf Coast, but I heartily applaud the dedicated efforts of officials like Charlie.  You guys will be the real heroes in the war to stamp out drafting in our sport; you have to take all the abuse hurled at you by incensed athletes pissed off at being caught in the act of cheating, but you don’t back down. Thanks for catching the flak but remaining unmoved in your conviction. Go get ‘em! Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft!" http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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Could not agree more, Charlie Crawford is a great asset to this sport.  He is pro- fessional and his honesty is beyond reproach.  When I show up at a race at he is one of the officials or he head official I know it will be a fair race. Many thanks to Charlie and his crew, for a job well done. Mike Greer

Mike, How about bringing him over for Buffalo Springs, so we can insure a fair race I too am very happy about all of the strick drafting enforcement at all of the major races so far this season.  I can only hope that it will last throughout the summer.  Great job Charlie. Todd — Todd Gerlach ISSC Austin AIX Support Team                   __o       o    

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: I did think the static display of the drafting zone done by Charlie at : meeting was a bit long, but then again, I can’t say I’ve pulled out my : rulebook and measured. Jack, I had measured 23 feet before the meeting and marked it on the boardwalk, so the distance was accurate. -Charlie

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Dear Triathletes, Here’s some info on our camp. The camp will be held at Vacation Village in Clermont, Florida (15 miles west of Orlando), site of the Great Floridian Triathlon, The Florida Challenge Tri and others. The dates are April 5,6,7, 1996 and May 31, June1,2, 1996.   Jeff Cuddeback (MA in Exercise Physiology and Industrial Psychology) is coordinating the training (407-788-7030) so give him a call for any specifics.  Jeff is a 35-39 age grouper who is the 1994 U.S. Champ, the 1993 U.S., World, Ironman Champion, and the 1992 Overall U.S. Champ.  The camp is aimed at age-groupers who want to improve their times and enjoyment of the sport.   The camp is designed to have people share ideas, so everyone benefits.   We’ll start the day with a short run, have breakfast, and then start the training.  Besides the 25 meter pool, there is a beautiful lake and beach to practice open water training.  Alec Rukosuev is a fantastic swimmer ( 1989 Swim Champ of Russia; 1993,94,95 Panama City Half Ironman Winner; 1993 Disney Marathon 2:21 Winner; 1st out of the water Hawaii 1994, 2nd in 1995) and supervising the swimming.  We’re negotiating with a USCF bike coach right now; however Jeff’s average speed for Hawaii in 1993 was 23mph so he knows biking also.  Jim Ward, the 75+ age group phenom will be coaching also.  Jim has 6 World and 12 U.S. Championships under his belt, including 1995 Worlds and 2 Hawaii Ironman wins. The cost is $349 which includes 3 nights lodging and breakfast and lunch each day; we request a $100 deposit to hold a spot, which is refundable up to 1 month before the camp.  Hope to see you there.  Call 407-884-5008 for any other info. JOLF

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snip<< My other question relates to Tri-Fed membership apps.  I sent one of the cards from Triathlete magazine in the first week in January applying for 1995 Tri-Fed membership.  I haven’t heard anything yet.  Does anybody have a phone number I can call to ask about the matter? Thanks for any info. Suzanne

Suzanne: Call Steve Locke at Tri Fed..(719) 597-9090. If that doesn’r get you immediate help. E-mail me and I’ll help. Scott Zagarino

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I need some information about Ironman Canada from you folks who have done the race before.

Check out the info at: http://iac.net/~miller/triathlon-home.html

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