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Hi, I am about to buy a new wristwatch. I am looking for a model with some extra functions for runners. I know there are watches that can measure up to, say, 50 lap times. This could be used to track down the time for each kilometer of a marathon. But, are there also models that can forecast your (possible) end-time, based on how fast you ran last kilometers? This could be nice… If so could perhaps someone give me an indication about what brand, model etc. – and possibly also where to buy (via Internet) and the price? Thanks, Philipp Maier — Read how I felt during my first marathon: http://www.philipp-maier.de

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Philipp, Timex IRONMAN with Datalink was good sized numbers for Splits and time but can only store 1 race. Timex IRONMAN with FLIX has VERY SMALL numbers for the splits (too small) but can store a few different races. I’m sure there are better, but these only cost about $45 around here so it wasn’t too bad, and they are what I use. Roger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am about to buy a new wristwatch. I am looking for a model with some extra functions for runners. I know there are watches that can measure up to, say, 50 lap times. This could be used to track down the time for each kilometer of a marathon. But, are there also models that can forecast your (possible) end-time, based on how fast you ran last kilometers? This could be nice… If so could perhaps someone give me an indication about what brand, model etc. – and possibly also where to buy (via Internet) and the price? Thanks, Philipp Maier — Read how I felt during my first marathon: http://www.philipp-maier.de

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am about to buy a new wristwatch. I am looking for a model with some extra functions for runners. I know there are watches that can measure up to, say, 50 lap times. This could be used to track down the time for each kilometer of a marathon. But, are there also models that can forecast your (possible) end-time, based on how fast you ran last kilometers? This could be nice… If so could perhaps someone give me an indication about what brand, model etc. – and possibly also where to buy (via Internet) and the price? Thanks, Philipp Maier — Read how I felt during my first marathon: http://www.philipp-maier.de

I have a Timex triathlon w/data link, a triathlon without data link, and my newest addition to the collection is a freestyle predator. Each has advantages and disadvantages and I use all three at different times. The data link watch is neat in that it can store lots of useful things like phone numbers. I also kept track of miles (weekly, yearly, miles on each of three pairs of shoes) using the timers. The recall of laps is neat because while the chrono is running it gives you most recent first, and when it is stopped it gives them "chronologically". The down sides are the plastic band is less comfortable(but easy to clean), and the buttons are somewhat hard to press (I occassionaly miss a split). The price is also slightly higher than the others. This is the watch that I usually wear when I am not running. The other triathlon has the fast wrap strap which is very comfortable(but harder to keep clean). The buttons are easy to push and I rarely miss a split. The recall function is a little weird in that you have to reset the chrono to get them in order. It always makes me nervous since if you hit the start button at that point you will lose the splits. I usually write the splits down in reverse order after a race because of this. The chrono has some flexibility in the display but this is more of a pain than a feature for me. I’ve gotton it in the wrong mode twice, luckily on training runs, and had to stop to get it back in the right mode. This is the watch that I normally wear for races. The predator has larger numbers for the split times, but the total time is smaller. Since the width of the display is about the same on all three watches you don’t get as much advantage out of the taller letters as I had hoped. The buttons are firm but I havn’t missed a split yet. The best feature of this watch is that It keeps track of each run along with the date for a total of 100 splits. the triathlons only have one segment of up to 50 splits. I don’t always get arround to filling out my log after each run so this really helps. With the triathlons I would just record a short split to seperate runs but this is much nicer. I train with this watch usually however I use one of the others if  I’m doing a lot of short repeats and am going to have 40 or 50 splits in one session. The back lighting on all three is good but the triathlons are more flexible. You can set them to stay lit for about 10 seconds or for only as long as the button is pushed. also they can be set to light with any button press. The predator is set to light for about 4 seconds and can not be changed. It also doesn’t light with other button presses. Split times stay on the display longer on the triathlons but I haven’t had a problem getting the splits on the predator. If you do miss seeing a split it is easier to recall on the triathlons. The new triathlons don’t have large enough split times for me to see so I havn’t looked at them much. Remember you need to be able to read them at the end of a race with sweat in your eyes. Overall any one of the watches would work fine, but hey, I’m a spoiled brat who likes neat toys. Mike

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I hope I’m not the last person to notice this… The Ironman Hawaii 1999 Lottery application (and Passport club app.) are online at http://www.ironmantri.com/lottery.html Good luck everyone.  Neal.

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If so ….what do you think of his plan and are you showing any improvement.                                                           G.Cook

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If so ….what do you think of his plan and are you showing any improvement.                                                          G.Cook

I worked with Rick Niles for most of the past year. I was very happy with the workouts and the input I received. There is no question that his program was a key reason I had strong season. He emphasizes quality over quantity – structure rather than doing the workout that feels good that day. He will tell you exactly what to do each day. The upside is that the workouts will definately help you improve and motivate you to work hard. The downside is that the workouts are rather structured. It makes it harder to do workouts with your friends. I found I did best when I stayed as close to the prescribed program as possible. The structure will help you to improve your performance without working too hard or long and getting injured. Unfortunately, my new job has me traveling so much that my tri training has taken a back seat to work and travel. I will try to use his software to help me schedule workouts that fit better with my business schedule. If you are looking for help to get the most of your training time, Rick can help you out. The price is very reasonable, a good value in my opinion. YMMV. — Stewart Cox

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writes: If so ….what do you think of his plan and are you showing any improvement.                                                          G.Cook

A triathlete friend of mine was, but she had a serious skiing accident and got a new job and decided to concentrate more on running before she got a real sense of the efficacy of his approach.  She seemed very positive about his advice while she was working with him. JT

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If so ….what do you think of his plan and are you showing any improvement.

I’ve been working with Rick, either via his book, "Time-Saving Training for Multisport Athletes," or directly with him as a "cyber coach" for almost a year now. Previously, I was at a very time- and energy-consuming job that made me want to seek out a program like Rick’s that doesn’t demand endless hours of LSD. Well, I bought the book and used his workouts to guide my training for many months with good results. I then decided it would be nice to have him suggest more specific workouts in terms of effort and distance. So far, (I’m on week no. 15 now) so good. Rick works according to a threshold-based system. With his program, you (almost) never just go out and run for 45 minutes "easy" or "hard." Instead, you might take the first 10:00 easy for a warm-up, and then do various fartlet-like pickups or tempo bursts for the next 25 minutes, then go back down to easy effort for the last 10 min. Same with cycling: lots of pyramid-type workouts, which are great for someone like me who uses the stationary trainer a whole lot. Effort and speed are formulated based on heart rate and perceived effort. Your HR is broken into four zones based on measured max. HR and speeds at certain efforts. Going into the program I hadn’t been running well. Since following Rick’s program my running’s really come up to speed and my cycling output has increased measurably. Swimming is about the same, but that’s my fault One aspect in which Rick differs a lot from other programs is in periodization. He doesn’t do much in the way of seasonal periodization, such as concentrating on LSD base-building during the off-season and such. Since we’re constantly working on aerobic threshold the speed and effort bursts are always there, but long runs and/rides are added in preparation for longer events. Rick also likes to rotate sport focus, so for example a bike focus would have five bike workouts in a week, with two maintenance workouts in the other two sports for a total of nine workouts in one week. Write me directly if you have any questions. Best, David in Taipei, Taiwan

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After I qualified for IMC 98 at the St. Croix Triathlon, I needed help fast to get ready for my first Ironman.  I talked to several of my friends who had coaches and after talking to Rick I decided that his approach would work for me.  He didn’t pull any punches but told me that it would be tough to get ready but he thought I could do it.  I stuck very close to his prescribed workouts and talked to him every week to recalibrate how it was going.  I have had a very positive experience with Rick and would highly recommend him to anybody.  I had what I considered a great IMC (I finished, didn’t need medical attention, and ended up coming in ahead of about half of the guys in my age group).  I have kept working with Rick since and I had my best two finishes at Pacific Grove and Sentinel after IMC.  I have taken between 2 and 5 minutes off of every race I have done, compared to the same race last year,since I signed up with him.  I am working out a little more on a weekly basis, but I’m working out much smarter following his schedule. I also find that I am really enjoying the variety he puts into the workouts. He has been great for me and has re-energized my training after 12 years of doing triathlons and working out on my own.  I love the new approach.

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Hello fellow triathletes I’m training for a ironman and with all the extra training sections. I’m  finding that i getting run down I was hoping to get some imformation what i should be eating for the extra training that i am doing Also examples of meals would be great thanks Bill

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Bill  I’m in the same situation as you. I’m using a commercial carbo powder and using it in smoothies and shakes between meals. As for real food, well my current favourite is spinnach tagliatelle (?) with low fat creme fraiche and tomato paste, mixed with whatever herbs and spices I feel like. I’ll often thrown in a cooked chicken breast or some low fat tuna. Fish and broccoli soup is another winner. Both meals are very quick and tasty. They have to be quick otherwise I fill up with junk food while I’m cooking:-) Phil – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello fellow triathletes I’m training for a ironman and with all the extra training sections. I’m  finding that i getting run down I was hoping to get some imformation what i should be eating for the extra training that i am doing Also examples of meals would be great thanks Bill

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Hello fellow triathletes I’m training for a ironman and with all the extra training sections. I’m  finding that i getting run down I was hoping to get some imformation what i should be eating for the extra training that i am doing Also examples of meals would be great thanks Bill

Bill, Just when is your IM race ? What I am getting at is that most north Americans (where are you?) that are doing IM races in the July-October (Vineman, Canada, Kona & Great Floridian) time frame, are just now starting to ramp up their training bases. For me, diet becomes a major concern in the last 4-5 months before the race that I plan to do when training is at 100 percent. Take a look at: http://www.fred.net/ultrunr/hydrate.html and http://www.fred.net/ultrunr/foods.html to see what the ultra-marathoners say about hydration and food requirements. Please do not be put off by the fact that www.fred.net/ultrunr is an ultra-marathoner web site! As a triathlete and ultr-amarathoner, I can tell you that most of what is said about ultra-marathons applies to ultra distance triathlons. Mostly, I think that many triathletes eat too many carbohydrates and not enough fat and protein in their diets. (opinion) Rock Cogar   Great Floridian: 94,95,96.

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Dates required for triathlon and mini-triathlon events in UK and Ireland Please help!!!!!!! e-mail response appreciated.

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Dates required for triathlon and mini-triathlon events in UK and Ireland Please help!!!!!!! e-mail response appreciated.

Dates REQUIRED?  Sounds like an interesting race series!  Can I just bring my wife?

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Hi Richard, My RHR = ~50 and roughly measured MHR = 196 I ran a half-marathon recently and fairly easily ran in Sleamaker’s zone 4 (170-180). The last 2 miles I ignored the HRM and overtook 20-30 people, running at 182.

Your HR rates are quite similar to mine (RHR ~50, MHR ~200 bike and run, half marathon with avg. HF of 178 with max at 190) so I’ll comment on that. Question is; was it race nerves ‘artificially’ elevating my heart rate or was I able to run at a zone which in training I had only held for hill intervals?

Training strictly for an ironman distance with no important short races before I’ve done no AT type training at all (running). I think as long as you stay well below your AT (mine is 185 for running) there’s no need to train your body to tolerate the accumulation of lactate (or whatever the correct word is . Also, Sleamaker reckons races longer than 4 hours can be run at zone 3 for me, 160-170. This doesn’t sound realistic, can anyone reassure me?

Here are my heart rates during IM Lanzarote this year: Swim (1:10h): avg. 136, max. 168 (constantly decreasing HR due to lack of training Bike (5:41h): avg. 161, max. 177 (so it is possible to stay in that zone for more than 4 hours) Run (4:06h): avg. 151, max. 167 (walking thru aid stations on the second half) My strategy was to stay below 170 the entire race but that’s just impossible with the hills there… Ciao, Mario — Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau "I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year…"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Folks, I’ve been training with a HRM for about 4 months aiming for IM in August. My RHR = ~50 and roughly measured MHR = 196 … stuff deleted … Also, Sleamaker reckons races longer than 4 hours can be run at zone 3 for me, 160-170. This doesn’t sound realistic, can anyone reassure me? — Cheers, Richard. Arran Triathlon Club – we got both kindsa wind, out *and* back!

Richard, I am also training for an IM this year using my HRM.  My RHR is 50 and MHR is 190.  I raced a 1/2 IM in May with a finishing time of 6:28:xx using my HRM. My average HR for the race was 160 bpm and I really focused on keeping my HR in the 160 to 165 range for most of the race.  I was suprised that I could keep going for that long with my HR that high, but I also felt that I had raced to my limit (or potential depending on your perspective).  I’m hoping and assuming with 4 additional months of training that I should be able to race my IM at a similiar HR zone.  My plan is try to stay around 155 bpm for the IM which should be 5 to 10 bpm below my AT.   This is my $0.02, but I would love to hear from someone who has raced an IM with their HRM and see what their experience was. Lucy

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Hi Folks, I’ve been training with a HRM for about 4 months aiming for IM in August. My RHR = ~50 and roughly measured MHR = 196

<snip Richard, I have some recorded heart rate monitor data from Ironman races, as well as 1/2-IM and shorter. It is one my website (URL below). Please note that the data is only useful for comparing heart rates for different length races run by this one individual (me). In other words, this data is useful for answering the question, how do heart rates differ between various length triathlons done by the same person? It will not answer, what is the ideal heart rate for an Ironman? Nor will it answer, how do you compare to what this data shows? (My resting heart rate and max are both lower than what you posted. Thus the heart rate data is different from what we might expect for you) I hope this helps,                      mark — Mark A. Jenkins, M.D SportsMed Web http://riceinfo.rice.edu/~jenkins

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I will be relocating to the Syracuse area and was searching for any information about triathlon clubs, proximity of races, etc regarding this move.  My lack of NY knowledge makes reading the race schedules a bit useless — searching for a little town amidst the entire state is often a quick recipe for psychosis.   Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I will be relocating to the Syracuse area and was searching for any information about triathlon clubs, proximity of races, etc regarding this move.  My lack of NY knowledge makes reading the race schedules a bit useless — searching for a little town amidst the entire state is often a quick recipe for psychosis. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Actually you are in luck.  The Rochester/Syracuse region of upstate New York is nestled right on Lake Ontario and Onandaga Lake as well as the nearby Finger Lakes to the south.  There is a very active tri calendar in this part of New York.  Begin your search with the RATS (Rochester Area TriathleteS) homepage:     http://www2.rpa.net/~rats   When searching the national mags, any race site with a zip code starting with ‘13′ or ‘14′ is within a 2-3 hour drive. This area (though c-o-l-d in the winter) is great in the spring/summer/fall and offers all kinds of terrain etc. for training and racing. Augie Calabrese

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Frank, I’m not sure about Syracuse, but there is a tri club in Rochester called RAT (Rochester area triathletes).  I wish that they were closer to Ithaca! They have a home page that you can find by searching on the net or at one of the triathlon web sites.  There are a couple of tri’s in the buffalo area, one in Elmira (1 hr south of syracuse), one in Whitney Point (1 hr approximately), a couple in the catskills that I will be doing this year (3 hours), and quite a few in other areas.  You can check the normal listings in triathlete, transition times, and the New York Triathlon Club site (which can be reached through transition times homepage). Tri-ike (Mike)

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Anyone have any maps or online resources about running in Cincinnati.  I will be spending about 2months there this coming summer and need some info. Any info about local clubs would be appreciated too. Joe

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     If you go out on the streets in Cinncinnati, you’ll be running for your life. Steve McDonald

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Anyone have any maps or online resources about running in Cincinnati.  I will be spending about 2months there this coming summer and need some info. Any info about local clubs would be appreciated too.

Cincinnati is one of the places that Runners World wrote about.  If this link doesn’t work, just go to their site and click "On the Road". http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-51-57-651,00.html I don’t know anything about it firsthand, but I thought I’d at least pass on the link.

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Anyone have any maps or online resources about running in Cincinnati.  I will be spending about 2months there this coming summer and need some info. Any info about local clubs would be appreciated too. Joe

Joe, Go to the local running authority:  Bob Roncker’s Running Spot.  They have a Cincinnati Running page – http://www.runningspot.com/CintiRunning/.  Check out the local links as well as the Weekly Running/Walking Groups.  When in town, you can pick up route maps from the Running Spot.  The Little Miami Bike Trail is one of the more scenic and popular running paths. If you get into town around May 2, you can tour the city via the Flying Pig marathon – http://www.flyingpigmarathon.com/. Mike

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you know you could substitute any large cities name that sentence and it would work. jOe

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2 months in Cincinnati?  You poor bastard.  I only know of one fun thing to do in Cincinnati.  Packing your bag, and travelling to a better town.

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I’m a runner from Cincinnati…what questions do you have?

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I’m a runner from Cincinnati…what questions do you have?

Why do you live there?

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I was born here.  Not so bad during the summer but hate the fall and winter.  Anyone up for relocating me to say…San Diego or Atlanta?

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I was born here.  Not so bad during the summer but hate the fall and winter.  Anyone up for relocating me to say…San Diego or Atlanta?

Well I was concerned for your well-being and mental condition, but since you WANT to leave I guess you’re ok.

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I’ll be there this summer from June to August and I’m looking for some good routes and places to run.  What are places to avoid due to traffic or road conditions?  I’ll be training for a marathon then so I’ll need some longer loops or courses to do. Right now I live in Milwaukee so I can’t imagine running there is too different? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Joe

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m a runner from Cincinnati…what questions do you have?      If you go out on the streets in Cinncinnati, you’ll be running for your life. Steve McDonald

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I’ll be there this summer from June to August and I’m looking for some good routes and places to run.  What are places to avoid ?

Cincinnati is the best thing to avoid. I once spent a month there one weekend.

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I’ll be there this summer from June to August and I’m looking for some good routes and places to run.  What are places to avoid due to traffic or road conditions?  I’ll be training for a marathon then so I’ll need some longer loops or courses to do. Right now I live in Milwaukee so I can’t imagine running there is too different? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Joe

Joe, A premature welcome to Cincinnati! Try some of the local running groups.  I have run with the Saturday Morning Running Group (SMRG) in the past.  Most of them are marathoners and will run 10-15 miles starting at 7am.  See the SMRG link here http://www.runningspot.com/CintiRunning/RunningGroups.htm. As for courses for long runs, your best bet is to stay off of the roads and stick to the paved running/biking trails.  Sharon Woods, Winton Woods, Miami Whitewater Forest all have paved loops.  My preference is Miami Whitewater. It has a 7.8 mile outer loop (Shaker Trace) and a 1.3 mile inner loop path through forest, fields and marsh (not much shade).  A horse trail parallels the main trail so on an early morning run you are likely to be passing wild turkey, ducks, horses and deer.  There is a portable toilet about half-way around and you’ll have to carry your own water although they just installed a drinking fountain at the nature overlook, about 2 miles from the parking area.  The two drawbacks are that it is 15 minutes west of downtown just off of I-74 and there is a $1 entry fee for this county park ($3 for an annual pass which covers Winton Woods, Sharon Woods and several other parks). Another favorite is the Little Miami Bike Trail.  This is a flat 72 mile path that occupies an abandoned rail line and follows the Little Miami River.  It is primarily a Southwest to Northeast route so shade is good for most of the day.  It starts/ends about 15 minutes east of downtown, in Milford.  This Sunday I’ll be competing in Morgan’s Little Miami Triathlon which uses part of the bike trail for the 10k run. A little closer to town is the 5.5 mile path at Lunken Airport/Playfield. Just a few minutes east of downtown, it loops around a small municipal airport, ball fields, and a golf course.  Not very well shaded.  Water and restroom facilities are available at the golf shop and airport terminal. Downtown, there is a riverwalk and pedestrian bridge that takes you over the Ohio River into Kentucky.  Not sure of the length of this route though. Go to Bob Roncker’s Running Spot http://www.runningspot.com/ when you get into town.  They would have the most concentrated amount of local running routes/maps. A premature welcome to Cincinnati! Mike

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Try mixing it with your favorite flavor of Gatorade.  I have found it to be strong enough to over power most any foul tasting drink.                                     _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / Tri-On The only legal draft should come from hops and barley. WEB (Robert Webster) Waukegan, IL

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I dunno tri-dork, why not mix it with a Bass Ale? Eric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I’ve read in the past (of course silly how could I read it in the : future?) recipies of several homemade sports drinks. Last year I : bought a large container of orange flavoured Ultra Fuel. Teh : stuff works great but tastes worse than pigeon vomit. (Don’t : ask!) I have about $20 of the stuff left and can’t bring myself : to toss it out. Do any of you have any good recipies for sports : drinks or recovery drinks that this powder could go in. I’m : thinking of tossing a few scoops into a blender with some Skim : milk, orange juice, club soda, salt, banana, maybe some yoghurt : and if all else fails a bunch of Haagen Daas. I figure that : enough Haagen Daas could make even Ultra Fuel taste good. : : I eagerly await your creativity and tried and tested recipies. : : : TriDork : : p.s.  who says gravy isn’t a sprots drink?! :

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I know some natural grocery stores (e.g . Whole Foods) sell pure fructose in bulk, the main ingredint in Ultra fuel. Might have to think out how to get the vitamins and minerals in there; Maybe some crushed up anti-oxidant pills.

The main ingredient in Ultrafuel is a glucose polymer, not a simple sugar like fructose (fructose or some other sugar is probably the second ingredient). The idea behind Ultrafuel is that because it has a lot of glucose polymers you can mix it quite thick and still have it be not too sweet. If you made a fructose solution with the same amount of calories as Ultrafuel it would taste unbearably sweet. John Tomlinson New York, NY, USA home tel 1 (212) 362 1609 office tel 1 (212) 517 4900

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Try this: 1.  Set aside an entire evening for this project. 2.  Take one (1) bottle of Chevas Regal (cold) and a shot glass. 3.  Take a blender bowl and put it in the freezer for an hour.     While you’re waiting, draink two (2) or moew shots of Chevas. 4.  When the blender is cold, quickly add two scoops of Ultra Fuel. 5.  Take one (1) shot of Chevas. 6.  In the blender, add two quarts of water.  DO NOT TURN THE     BLENDER ON! 7.  Take one (1) shot of Chevas. 8.  Run blender for 30 seconds on low speed only. 9.  Take one (1) shot of Chevas. 10. Add ketchup (1/2 cup) to the blender. 11. Add 1/2 cup of anything green to the blender. 12. Run the blender at every speed it has for 30 seconds.     During each speed cycle, take one (1) shot of Chevas.     Carefully view the color combinations during the blend cycle. 13. Dump contents of blender down drain.  Take one more shotk almsdm     off Chvasssss 14. Finnshhdjjf of the e bott;l;w od  Chevasewe abeferpp  before     yourwe  signndisn jjasnj  – aahh, wife… finndss soutt.aw 15. Now, forr theew s gooddd partttt asdmmkaiwemmjl2ooc 9wek9cas ssf ;sdfpw0

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A quarter cup per 16oz water makes a great marinade for chicken, duck, and pigeons.                Pete

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 I’ve read in the past (of course silly how could I read it in the  future?) recipies of several homemade sports drinks. Last year I  I eagerly await your creativity and tried and tested recipies.  TriDork  p.s.  who says gravy isn’t a sprots drink?!

Well, I don’t have a sports drink recipe.  However, I have come up with a recovery drink that works quite well for me.  Mix one cup of nonfat dry milk with one cup skim milk.  I usually add a shot of chocolate syrup too.  The flavor and consistency remind me of Carnation’s Instant Breakfast.  Here are the numbers: Fat                   0 g Potassium  1560 mg Sodium        500 mg Carbs             48 g Protein           32 g You’ll also get a decent dose of vitamins A & D and calcium. The chocolate syrup would add another 12 grams of carbs (ie sugar). Larry O

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I’ve read in the past (of course silly how could I read it in the future?) recipies of several homemade sports drinks. Last year I bought a large container of orange flavoured Ultra Fuel. Teh stuff works great but tastes worse than pigeon vomit. (Don’t ask!) I have about $20 of the stuff left and can’t bring myself to toss it out. Do any of you have any good recipies for sports drinks or recovery drinks that this powder could go in. I’m thinking of tossing a few scoops into a blender with some Skim milk, orange juice, club soda, salt, banana, maybe some yoghurt and if all else fails a bunch of Haagen Daas. I figure that enough Haagen Daas could make even Ultra Fuel taste good. I eagerly await your creativity and tried and tested recipies. TriDork p.s.  who says gravy isn’t a sprots drink?!

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: I’ve read in the past (of course silly how could I read it in the : future?) recipies of several homemade sports drinks. Last year I : bought a large container of orange flavoured Ultra Fuel. Teh : stuff works great but tastes worse than pigeon vomit. (Don’t : ask!) I have about $20 of the stuff left and can’t bring myself : to toss it out. Do any of you have any good recipies for sports : drinks or recovery drinks that this powder could go in. I’m : thinking of tossing a few scoops into a blender with some Skim : milk, orange juice, club soda, salt, banana, maybe some yoghurt : and if all else fails a bunch of Haagen Daas. I figure that : enough Haagen Daas could make even Ultra Fuel taste good. : : I eagerly await your creativity and tried and tested recipies. : : : TriDork : : p.s.  who says gravy isn’t a sprots drink?! : I made up a 40/30/30 drink once, can see if I can find the recipe. The Javanator

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Hey Javanator,   don’t bother looking for the recipe. I found it on several web pages. Even the New Zealand Triathletes web page, along with "ironman’s" drink. I printed it up and will give it a try. I read a recipe in a triathlete mag once of some pro that  had a good drink. I’ll have to look for it and maybe get taht onto some web pages too. TriDork

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TriDork, If you don’t get any recipes for home mades, try Fruit Punch Ultrafuel, its much better. I know some natural grocery stores (e.g . Whole Foods) sell pure fructose in bulk, the main ingredint in Ultra fuel. Might have to think out how to get the vitamins and minerals in there; Maybe some crushed up anti-oxidant pills. My girlfriend and I had great success making out own 40/30/30 PR bars with the help of a calculator and a little experimentation. Douglas P. Drob                        !  ’Your weaknesses will pull you Space Physics Research Laboratory      !   down more than your strengths The University of Michigan             !   will pull you up’ 2455 Hayward Ave                       ! Ann Arbor, MI 48109                    !  - The Weakest Link Principle Phone 313-747-3450

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