Has anyone seen this new tri magazine? Is it any good? It claims to be more for the age-group triathlete than, say, Triathlete and its pages of pro coverage. -Harold
Has anyone seen this new tri magazine? Is it any good? It claims to be more for the age-group triathlete than, say, Triathlete and its pages of pro coverage.
I got the first issue, woudn’t say it’s any better than the other 2, but has promise I suppose. The front cover had the Debooms on it (so much for focus on the age grouper) but then they promise not to do it again. Maybe next months will be better, I’ll give it another try. Tim buaidh no bas
I am looking for information on the 2000 Bally Olympic Distance Triathlon to be held on 8/20 and the Ironhead-Dallas Olympic Distance Triathlon to be held on 9/10. Specifically, I’d like to know… 1. If I can only do one race, which should I do? and 2. Which coarse is more difficult? Thanks!
I am looking for information on the 2000 Bally Olympic Distance Triathlon to be held on 8/20 and the Ironhead-Dallas Olympic Distance Triathlon to be held on 9/10. Specifically, I’d like to know… 1. If I can only do one race, which should I do? and 2. Which coarse is more difficult? Thanks!
I think the Bally’s race is now on 9/24. Jack Weiss puts on the Ironhead race, so you can count on a quality event. I think it’s near Joe Poole Lake. Count on a hot, unshaded run (hot in September in Dallas is a given). The bike, if I’m remembering the area correctly, is a flat out and back with some good hills in the middle. Bally’s races are usually quality, also, but I don’t know who the local RD is and they haven’t announced the location yet. cheers, Andrew — Andrew Peabody/Karen Fisher Coconut Grove, FL
GREAT SCOTT…!!!Buffalo Springs Lake Triathlon, Lubbock, Tx., does it again by bringing 3 of the legends of the sport of triathlon together again in the heat of competition. Dave Scott, Scott Tinley, and Scott Molina will be racing head to head for the first time since 1988, on this always challenging half iron course. Also, returning will be James Bonney, defending champion, Lauren Maule, Female course record holder, Peter Kotland, past Ultraman winner. New to the race is a unique and tough competitor, recent Triathlete poster guy, Jimmy Riccitello, winner of St Croix last year. Your can train for the bike course on the Compu-Trainer. It is now being offered.We are stil accepting applications for this years race and look forward to seeing everyone in the Canyons of the Llano Estacado. Marti & Mike Greer
This might be another post that could be prefaced with my proposed "PRESS RELESE:" tag in the subject line. Press releases always have more than one purpose, two of which are usually to promote the event and to get interesting info out to the intended audience. BTW, I’m not complaining about the post. I think it belongs here. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – GREAT SCOTT…!!!Buffalo Springs Lake Triathlon, Lubbock, Tx., does it again by bringing 3 of the legends of the sport of triathlon together again in the heat of competition. Dave Scott, Scott Tinley, and Scott Molina will be racing head to head for the first time since 1988, on this always challenging half iron course. Also, returning will be James Bonney, defending champion, Lauren Maule, Female course record holder, Peter Kotland, past Ultraman winner. New to the race is a unique and tough competitor, recent Triathlete poster guy, Jimmy Riccitello, winner of St Croix last year. Your can train for the bike course on the Compu-Trainer. It is now being offered.We are stil accepting applications for this years race and look forward to seeing everyone in the Canyons of the Llano Estacado. Marti & Mike Greer
I’m thinking of relocating to the state of Arizona (not sure what city yet)and would like to know if there are any triathlon clubs that I could contact. Thanks, Zach
I’m thinking of relocating to the state of Arizona (not sure what city yet)and would like to know if there are any triathlon clubs that I could contact. Thanks, Zach
Zach- I just joined the Phoenix Triathlon Club (Meets at a LBS called Landis Cyclery). The first meeting I went to had a Masters coach that gave us some good swim tips, and they had a couple of rides and group swims organized for the next few weeks. There were about 40 (out of ~150) members there, and they were really well organized. They had some raffles (free for members), and when you join, you get some merchandise discounts, and the membership card gets you discounts at John "Ad astra per aspera" "A rough road leads to the stars"
triathlon activities in Tucson; sites. Complete descriptions and links at http://www.multisporttrainingco.com, and at suggest other individuals. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 6:27 PM Message from the Deja.com forum: rec.sport.triathlon Your subscription is set to individual email delivery I’m thinking of relocating to the state of Arizona (not sure what city yet)and would like to know if there are any triathlon clubs that I could contact. Thanks, Zach Deja.com: Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. * To modify or remove your subscription, go to * Read this thread at
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Posted incorrect address: http:/www.multisporttraining.com is correct for Tucson tri activities. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:49 AM Message from the Deja.com forum: rec.sport.triathlon Your subscription is set to individual email delivery triathlon activities in Tucson; sites. Complete descriptions and links at http://www.multisporttrainingco.com, and at suggest other individuals. —– Original Message —– Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 6:27 PM Message from the Deja.com forum: rec.sport.triathlon Your subscription is set to individual email delivery I’m thinking of relocating to the state of Arizona (not sure what city yet)and would like to know if there are any triathlon clubs that I could contact. Thanks, Zach Deja.com: Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. * To modify or remove your subscription, go to * Read this thread at Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Deja.com: Before you buy. * To modify or remove your subscription, go to * Read this thread at
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David: Welcome and thanks for the report; I really enjoyed it. Those of us who hold up the back of the pack depend on journalism to have some idea what it’s like to be a contender. Your report really brought it across. David Survivor, N.A. 1/2 Century (1949-1999, northwest Canada to southeast U.S.) Triathlete of no repute Draft buster (Cat. 3) looking for work A week or two ago someone mentioned race reports were the traditional method of introduction on the ng. Hence I shall formally introduce myself with a thrilling (as compared to saying what actually happened) account of the last tri of my season two weeks ago.
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Aw cripes David S (blushing), your describing me as a contender has given me a new resolve to win some tri’s next season (rather than just running) and dedicate it to you. David: Welcome and thanks for the report; I really enjoyed it. Those of us who hold up the back of the pack depend on journalism to have some idea what it’s like to be a contender. Your report really brought it across. David Survivor, N.A. 1/2 Century (1949-1999, northwest Canada to southeast U.S.) Triathlete of no repute Draft buster (Cat. 3) looking for work
David Bowden Survivor 0.18 Century, Auckland, NZ Whether or not I am a Triathlete of repute depends on who you talk to. We need more draftbusters in NZ, perhaps you’ll consider relocating. Best result: all the ones I got money from (too few).
A week or two ago someone mentioned race reports were the traditional method of introduction on the ng. Hence I shall formally introduce myself with a thrilling (as compared to saying what actually happened) account of the last tri of my season two weeks ago. Race 6: Roadhouse Bar and Diner Triathlon Series Maraetai Beach, Auckland, New Zealand. Beautiful day – gentle winds, no clouds, water smooth, positive start to day. Parents let me use the car, drive out late, race doesn’t start till 10am. Get a good transition spot, end up wandering around talking to anyone I see and just generally fluffing around – whose idea was it – starting this late? Sadly new wetsuit hasn’t arrived yet but my trusty sheath is duly put on with liberal smearings of canola oil (cheaper,more slimy, less damaging than baby oil). Usual banter on start line, bit of jostling, people tend to give me a little more space and I’m happily in the front row. The Swim: 500m Box course Sprint madly at start (I think you’d call it youthful exuberence, or just stupidity). coming up to first bouy and I’m still on the toes of 1996 junior B world champ and ITU rookie Nathan Richmond, he is a ~16.30 1500m swimmer so I’m feeling pretty pleased with myself – maybe I’ll come out somewhere near him today since he’s wetsuitless. Unfortunately got some water in goggles at start and can’t see him after rounding the buoy. Very short leg to the next one before heading back to the Orca swim exit. 2 or 3 people pass me on the way back so I exit the water in 5th/6th time of 6.45 stoked with my performance so far. Rip through transition the way I’ve practiced ever since my mother commented that I seemed to be slower than the other kids (I knew something was wrong when she noticed it). Head onto bike preceded by: Hamish Carter (current ITU world series champion), Nathan Richmond and a former swimmer. The Bike : 21km Advertised as 20 km. Out and back, starts mildly undulating along coast then heads inland for some more serious undulations. Supposedly non-drafting The misery begins, people immediately start riding away from me – this is bad. Paul Leitch (former Olympic cyclist) passes me a few hundred metres down the road – a thousand curses upon whoever taught him to swim – I can live with him passing me although I keep him close for a while. Soon the road seems more congested as pairs (cheats) and singles (non-cheats) ride past me. Ben Pulham (went to junior Du worlds, cramped up while in leading pack on bike) goes past motions for me to join paceline, I can’t , my legs have no power. Fortunately the course starts getting hillier and I can irritate people who’ve just passed me on the flat by zipping past them up the hills (if someone has an explanation as to why; at 82kg and feeling weak legged, I can still thrash my roadmates up the hills (apart from telling me that triathletes suck on hills – I already know that) I’d like to hear it). Coming up to turn I see Carter and Richmond thrashing the bike like its an ITU drafting race, also realise just how few people were ahead of me at the start and how many are now – 2 large packs (no draftbusters). Can’t make it to the pack just ahead but am able to see what’s going on behind me in the womens wave. Crawl back to the finish and hope that my running will be somewhere near its usual standard. Lose 22 places. Another slick transition and I head onto The Run: 5km Hilly course ,some offroad. Just behind 2 guys I hadn’t been able to see on the bike, pass them quickly and head past the marina and onto the track (shells and sand). Running smoothly but without the usual power – still floating along when I leave the track and go past the house I lived in as a child. Start to see people running the other way, Carter has cleared out. Head up the hill to the turn, marshall calls out:"50cents for water" so I steal 2 cups, unfortunately my dinky Orca mesh cap stops the water from getting to my head (I know it doesn’t help). Float back down the hill. Soon I hear a pitter-patter, WHAT? – Who could have caught me? I know I’m not flying but I am a runner, quickly turn around – oh – Alan Bunce – world class 5km runner (mid 13’s). Run on his shoulder for a while seeing if I can un-nerve him by towering over him, he starts to inch away on the flat bit, however we turn onto "Alexanders wall" and I start to claw my way back up to him taking short steps to conquer the hill ( hmm, maybe my father was right about this short steps thing, it worked on that other top runner last week). Once over the hill I can’t get my legs to flow down the hill and Bunce escapes. I pass the guy with club feet and go past the chap from my agegroup. Last hill before finish – still running well, turn down the chute – no need to sprint – but metres from the line I hear: " GO MATTHEW" – that’s not me and my most recently passed opponent whips by me to pip me by a second. If only he’d come up earlier as I’ve not been outsprinted in a race. Oh well, 19.19 is a reasonable run for that course a little quicker than training pace. Overall, superb swim for a runner turned triathlete (at 12). 2nd worst bike ever (don’t ask about #1). A moderate run. Lessons learnt: Training makes a difference – I might try it sometime, especially if I want to win the U20 half ironman next year. Short steps also make a difference – maybe I’ll listen to my dad in future. Maybe I should stick to hilly courses in future despite my size and prediliction for sprinting – downhills should be my strength with 1.02m legs. 5th in 18-19 agegroup (by ONE second). Carter puts 1.40 into Richmond on the run. At prizegiving they mention Gillian Walker – the blind lady -last out of water – not last after getting on her tandem – I saw her blitzing the bike, 3rd in her agegroup. A lovely day and I enjoyed myself muchly. Bring on the harrier season David Bowden
This query is addressed to those guys who can TT a 40K in under one hour. I’ve been racing on an 87′ Aluminum Trek 1500 with a 12 speed Shimano 600 transmission, 52×40 in front, 13-21 in back. I’ve added aero bars and changed the front stem extendor and seat post to give a more aero fit. I run on 700×25cc clinchers. QUESTION: Assuming I average 25mph over a 40K distance with the current setup how much time might a top of the line TT bike shave? Also, what model(s) would you recommend and why?
Wow… great question. I’m looking forward to the responses. Why is it that triathletes seem to spend more on their bikes than roadies? — Mark
They don’t, if it seems so it is because the average triathlete doesn’t usually meet the serious roadie he meets the rec rider who owns a road bike. I consider myself to be a roadie and I never met any tri-geeks until I was recently laid up and had to take it easier. Because I was taking it easier I met all sort of people I never met before as I was whizzing by them at 25 – 30 mph. The normal routine when I was training was that we would all meet at a spot, hammer for 30 to 40 miles, stop at a store for 10 – 15 minutes to refuel and BS, then hammer back to where we started from. All that most people would see is this big pack of riders (30 or more) whizzing by them. As far as bikes, I own 3 bikes (9spd Dura-ace, Ultegra, and track bike) and that is not unusual for most of my friends. The only bike that really impresses me these days is one of those Lotus TT bikes. It impresses me because I know the person who bought it spend $4,000 for a bike they will use only three or four times a year. I see Lightspeeds, Kleins, Custom bikes, Merlin’s, etc all the time. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow… great question. I’m looking forward to the responses. Why is it that triathletes seem to spend more on their bikes than roadies? — Mark
To second Jim’s post, I have much more invested in road bikes than in tri-bikes. My Eddy Merckx frame and fork list for as much as I paid for my Trek 5500/Campy/Ultegra triathlon rig. (Not that I _paid_ that much for the Merckx–it came to me in a special deal). Like Jim, I regularly see roadies on frames that list for $1700 and up. That’s FRAMES, not whole bikes. Far more expensive that the top-of-the-line QR. I can’t answer the original poster’s question, because I can’t ride a 40k in an hour. I can’t tell him that his maximum benefit comes from proper positioning, which he may have already obtained with the forward seatpost and aerobars. I also can’t tell him that aero wheels have the second-best effect, with potential savings of up to a minute in that 40k. I can’t tell him that one change I would make on his bike for small dollars would be to replace the 25mm tires for 20mm tires (if he weighs under 170) or 23mm tires (if he’s heavier) and inflate them to at least 120 psi. And finally, I can’t tell him that bike weight has no measurable effect in a flat time trial, all else equal, and that his aluminum Trek would be noodly in a road race or criterium but is really just fine in a time trial if it is fitted and equipped properly. It’s amazing what I don’t know about bikes because I’m slow. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -They don’t, if it seems so it is because the average triathlete doesn’t usually meet the serious roadie he meets the rec rider who owns a road bike. I consider myself to be a roadie and I never met any tri-geeks until I was recently laid up and had to take it easier. Because I was taking it easier I met all sort of people I never met before as I was whizzing by them at 25 – 30 mph. The normal routine when I was training was that we would all meet at a spot, hammer for 30 to 40 miles, stop at a store for 10 – 15 minutes to refuel and BS, then hammer back to where we started from. All that most people would see is this big pack of riders (30 or more) whizzing by them. As far as bikes, I own 3 bikes (9spd Dura-ace, Ultegra, and track bike) and that is not unusual for most of my friends. The only bike that really impresses me these days is one of those Lotus TT bikes. It impresses me because I know the person who bought it spend $4,000 for a bike they will use only three or four times a year. I see Lightspeeds, Kleins, Custom bikes, Merlin’s, etc all the time. Wow… great question. I’m looking forward to the responses. Why is it that triathletes seem to spend more on their bikes than roadies? — Mark
Rick Denney Take what you want and leave the rest.
so are u saying road bikes are faster than tri-bikes? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They don’t, if it seems so it is because the average triathlete doesn’t usually meet the serious roadie he meets the rec rider who owns a road bike. I consider myself to be a roadie and I never met any tri-geeks until I was recently laid up and had to take it easier. Because I was taking it easier I met all sort of people I never met before as I was whizzing by them at 25 – 30 mph. The normal routine when I was training was that we would all meet at a spot, hammer for 30 to 40 miles, stop at a store for 10 – 15 minutes to refuel and BS, then hammer back to where we started from. All that most people would see is this big pack of riders (30 or more) whizzing by them. As far as bikes, I own 3 bikes (9spd Dura-ace, Ultegra, and track bike) and that is not unusual for most of my friends. The only bike that really impresses me these days is one of those Lotus TT bikes. It impresses me because I know the person who bought it spend $4,000 for a bike they will use only three or four times a year. I see Lightspeeds, Kleins, Custom bikes, Merlin’s, etc all the time. Wow… great question. I’m looking forward to the responses. Why is it that triathletes seem to spend more on their bikes than roadies? — Mark
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – so are u saying road bikes are faster than tri-bikes? They don’t, if it seems so it is because the average triathlete doesn’t usually meet the serious roadie he meets the rec rider who owns a road bike. I consider myself to be a roadie and I never met any tri-geeks until I was recently laid up and had to take it easier. Because I was taking it easier I met all sort of people I never met before as I was whizzing by them at 25 – 30 mph. The normal routine when I was training was that we would all meet at a spot, hammer for 30 to 40 miles, stop at a store for 10 – 15 minutes to refuel and BS, then hammer back to where we started from. All that most people would see is this big pack of riders (30 or more) whizzing by them. As far as bikes, I own 3 bikes (9spd Dura-ace, Ultegra, and track bike) and that is not unusual for most of my friends. The only bike that really impresses me these days is one of those Lotus TT bikes. It impresses me because I know the person who bought it spend $4,000 for a bike they will use only three or four times a year. I see Lightspeeds, Kleins, Custom bikes, Merlin’s, etc all the time. Wow… great question. I’m looking forward to the responses. Why is it that triathletes seem to spend more on their bikes than roadies? — Mark
I don’t read anywhere in this posting that road bikes are faster than tri bikes. Is you ride in a group of about 30 riders you will probably go about 10 km/h faster than by yourself (drafting) if the relais are taken properly that speed can be maintained of quite a long period of time. Just watch the Tour de France and see how the peloton catches the fugitives by the end of the race if even the lead at one point was about 8 minutes. That’s what he is saying here. Achim Heinle
gee, we haven’t talked for a bit, so now i’ll have to plunk out the money & call her tomorrow. i shouldn’t have put my mouth in print so quickly! PMcD-C
I am looking for information about Sister Madonna Buder. She participated in the Senior Olympics in Tucson this year. She was wonderful in the women’s triathlon, and blew her competition away. Any articles about her would be a great help to me.
she’s a good friend of mine, and would be delighted to know someone wanted to know about her. she’ll be in columbia, of course, for nationals on august 17. various articles have been done on her in triathlete & inside triathlon, & triathlete had her as a centerfold (!) in 1996, i think–maybe 1995—during ironman hawaii. peggy mcd-c
: she’s a good friend of mine, and would be delighted to know someone wanted : to know about her. she’ll be in columbia, of course, for nationals on : august 17. Is this confirmed? I was also told that she’ll be at IMC this year. She’s listed on the web site. I suppose you can race OD and IM distance a week apart… — Jason Mayfield, Arlington VA Persist, Persevere, Deny, Pursue, Pain, Survive, Ignore, Endure, Strive, Laugh, Cry, Live, Prevail, Scream, Sweat, Bleed, Sustain, Learn, Ascend, Give, Get, GO! 36 Days Until Ironman Canada ‘97
Hi, Does anyone no where to get the results of the eurocup race in Zundert? Chris
Hi, Does anyone no where to get the results of the eurocup race in Zundert? Chris
Watch on the official site of the swiss triathlon federation (see index on the left side) http://www.trisuisse.ch Kind regards — Philippe MARTIN, Hauptstrasse 65a, CH-4312 Magden Phone&Fax ++41 61 841 15 25 or ++41 79 218 64 31 Internet: http://www.trisuisse.ch
Hello, I am in the need for a new sports watch and I am moving to the US in a few weeks time. This opens the question buy here or there ? So I thought that some kind soul could help me out and tell me the prices of TIMEX triathlon watches in the US. I am particularly interested in the TIMEX "Indilgo" (spelling ?) model, which is about DM 90.- here in Germany. I’d be grateful for a e-mail CC in addition to your followups because at the moment I am travelling and hence have limited news access. Thanks in advance for your help, MARKUS — MARKUS E. LAUTENBACHER, | phone: +49/89/3209-2387 Technical University Munich, | fax: +49/89/32092296 Physics Dept.-Theo. Physics T31,| Internet:
Retail for a 8 – 50 lap indiglo – about $42.00 – 50.00. Discounted, expect to pay in the low to mid $30.00.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got an application to the Shawnee Mission Medical Center Triathlon in Lenexa and Shawnee Mission (really KC) Kansas for July 10, 1994. I looked through it and noted the cost was only $30!!!! I say *only* $30 because around here (Dallas, Shreveport, Houston) it seems the going rate is somewhere between $40-60. What seems to be the average across the US??? I would also like to note the KC race has all of the usual Post-race stuff (Pancake breakfast, music etc.) and also is giving away prize money (300, 200, 100, 75 and 50) for the Top 5 males and females. Furthermore, they are having the "Flapjack" Fun Run for the Kids after the race (and it is free). Mark Ludorf
This is a high quality race too. Pretty much all the races in this area are that price. One thing that may contribute to the low cost is that it is run by the Johnson County Parks and Rec. Department. This means there is no one trying to make a living or even a profit off the race.Johnson County is a VERY wealthy county in suburban Kansas City, so JCPRD probably absorbs a lot of the expenses. Also, the race is held entirely in a county park, which they close for the race. That means they don’t have to pay the reserve police to control intersections, which is often a huge expense at urban/suburban races. This is also the first year they have offered prize money. You can bet I’ll be cheering on my wife at this race (she was 3rd overall two years ago)! Hey, if you really want a deal, come to my race in September – only $20 for Tri-Fed members, $25 otherwise. You get a swim cap, water bottle, Power Bar, long sleeve T-shirt, $3 day use permit for the state park where it’s held, post-race massage, food, give-aways, and results with splits mailed to you. And we will even give some money to a local youth swim team who will help with the swim portion. We have no big sponsors, but I do get a lot of stuff donated: food, massage, medical staff, police, scuba divers, life guards, pace car, give-aways, ASICS warmups to overall male and female winners, radio advertisements, entry form printing, and race-day radio communications. If I had to pay for everything, I’d be charging $40 ro $50 too! We put this on as a service to the triathletes in the area – obviously not to make money, although we still come out ahead. I feel the price helps encourage first-timers to give it a try, which is one of our goals for the race. Plus it’s a short race – 0.3m swim, 9.9m bike, 5K run. (In case you’re curious or interested, "my" race is the KSU Wildcat Spring Triathlon in Manhattan, KS, on Sept. 10 – send me an email message if you want an entry form. "KSU" = Kansas State University. I’m the race director). I would sure like to see the budget details of some of the races which charge $50 or $60. — Harvard Townsend, Systems Manager Kansas State University Dept. of CIS, (913)532-6350
Hey all, I just got an application to the Shawnee Mission Medical Center Triathlon in Lenexa and Shawnee Mission (really KC) Kansas for July 10, 1994. I looked through it and noted the cost was only $30!!!! I say *only* $30 because around here (Dallas, Shreveport, Houston) it seems the going rate is somewhere between $40-60. What seems to be the average across the US??? I would also like to note the KC race has all of the usual Post-race stuff (Pancake breakfast, music etc.) and also is giving away prize money (300, 200, 100, 75 and 50) for the Top 5 males and females. Furthermore, they are having the "Flapjack" Fun Run for the Kids after the race (and it is free). So what is the deal? How can they offer all of this for $30??? Is it all because of sponsors??? I’ll be interested in your replies. Mark Ludorf