My First Marathon, I finally did it

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried. …

Congrats!  Great story.  Keep it up but keep it enjoyable. — Josh Steinberg, Syracuse

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Snoles

Good job, Paul.  I ran my first marathon in April, having followed the Runner’s World program, and I was very happy with my result.  In fact, I   (like you) found myself almost overcome by emotion as I approached the finish line.  It’s quite a feeling.  Best of luck in your future marathons. — Chris

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Snoles

weight and know you can run that far???? Teresa in AZ, looking forward to the first marathon myself!

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  

Good job! Rob

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).

Great job. Thank you for the inspiration. Don’t let the 2nd half fool you ;) J.Hellstrom (FinRun)

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So proud of you!  Congratulations on your success! Rick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Next run,  Paris in the spring. Snoles

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Congratulations and good luck I am looking forward to my 1st in a few months robert

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My next goal is a triathlon.  I used to do the swim leg for an Army team years ago.  So I can swim and run.  I just need to figure out how to ride a bike. Paul

Congrats on your marathon. As to tri’s,  if you already know how to swim correctly (from real swim coaching), you’ve got it  licked. Swimming is the most technical of the disciplines. Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman, Model Railroader, Gamer

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Thanks Teresa.  You will love it when you finish your first.  Its the most fun you can have with your pants on.  Of course at my age its the most fun I can have period. My next goal is a triathlon.  I used to do the swim leg for an Army team years ago.  So I can swim and run.  I just need to figure out how to ride a bike. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Snoles weight and know you can run that far???? Teresa in AZ, looking forward to the first marathon myself!

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Way to go, dude!

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Congratulations! Excellent success story, too. Very inspiring. I will be running *my* first marathon in two weeks. I really need to hear this stories right about now. Cam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Next run,  Paris in the spring. Snoles

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Thanks for posting your success–congratulations on a great accomplishment this year. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised.

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I love Meg Ryan, if she greets me at the end of my next marathon I will cry.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp. Congratulations Paul  - and what’s wimpy about a grown man crying I ask? (unless it’s over a movie starrining Meg Ryan). If I achieve my first marathon next year, I intend to bluber like a baby :-)  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Sounds good to me – will you be running another one to confirm this hypothesis? The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. It’s the only way. I know, because I’ve lost 30 lbs doing the same thing. I went to a friends wedding last weekend, got out the suit i’d bought last year but never worn and the trousers fell down – a great moment in my life! Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. A pleasure to read it Next run,  Paris in the spring. Ah, you answer my question above. I hope you enjoy Paris and why not have a damm good cry at the end! charlie

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Will everyone on this thread STOP talking about Meg Ryan, I’m starting to cry already… Itchy (Corrupting todays youth for a better tomorrow)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love Meg Ryan, if she greets me at the end of my next marathon I will cry. I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp. Congratulations Paul  - and what’s wimpy about a grown man crying I ask? (unless it’s over a movie starrining Meg Ryan). If I achieve my first marathon next year, I intend to bluber like a baby :-)  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Sounds good to me – will you be running another one to confirm this hypothesis? The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall. That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. It’s the only way. I know, because I’ve lost 30 lbs doing the same thing. I went to a friends wedding last weekend, got out the suit i’d bought last year but never worn and the trousers fell down – a great moment in my life! Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. A pleasure to read it Next run,  Paris in the spring. Ah, you answer my question above. I hope you enjoy Paris and why not have a damm good cry at the end! charlie

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Nice job.  Very nice.   Leo

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Way to go Paul! I’ve lost 56 lbs in a year by running/cycling. Hav’nt managed a marathon (Yet) but have done a 1/2. and Charlie, what’s wrong with a Meg Ryan Movie then! Itchy

I’m sure Ms Ryan has made many wonderful films but I associate her with such offerings as Sleepless in Seattle which just ain’t my kind of movie and not something at which a grown man should cry – although I have seen a grown man do just that! charlie

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Well, to be totally honest, I have been a runner for about 30 years.  I am just on and off again and never had run a marathon.  Take your time. Meg Ryan didn’t become a star over night. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Way to go Paul! I’ve lost 56 lbs in a year by running/cycling. Hav’nt managed a marathon (Yet) but have done a 1/2. and Charlie, what’s wrong with a Meg Ryan Movie then! Itchy (Still scratch’n after all these years) I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp. Congratulations Paul  - and what’s wimpy about a grown man crying I ask? (unless it’s over a movie starrining Meg Ryan). If I achieve my first marathon next year, I intend to bluber like a baby :-)  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Sounds good to me – will you be running another one to confirm this hypothesis? The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall. That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. It’s the only way. I know, because I’ve lost 30 lbs doing the same thing. I went to a friends wedding last weekend, got out the suit i’d bought last year but never worn and the trousers fell down – a great moment in my life! Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. A pleasure to read it Next run,  Paris in the spring. Ah, you answer my question above. I hope you enjoy Paris and why not have a damm good cry at the end! charlie

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Way to go Paul! I’ve lost 56 lbs in a year by running/cycling. Hav’nt managed a marathon (Yet) but have done a 1/2. and Charlie, what’s wrong with a Meg Ryan Movie then! Itchy (Still scratch’n after all these years)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp. Congratulations Paul  - and what’s wimpy about a grown man crying I ask? (unless it’s over a movie starrining Meg Ryan). If I achieve my first marathon next year, I intend to bluber like a baby :-)  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. Sounds good to me – will you be running another one to confirm this hypothesis? The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. It’s the only way. I know, because I’ve lost 30 lbs doing the same thing. I went to a friends wedding last weekend, got out the suit i’d bought last year but never worn and the trousers fell down – a great moment in my life! Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. A pleasure to read it Next run,  Paris in the spring. Ah, you answer my question above. I hope you enjoy Paris and why not have a damm good cry at the end! charlie

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.

Congratulations Paul  - and what’s wimpy about a grown man crying I ask? (unless it’s over a movie starrining Meg Ryan). If I achieve my first marathon next year, I intend to bluber like a baby :-)  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half.

Sounds good to me – will you be running another one to confirm this hypothesis? The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised.

It’s the only way. I know, because I’ve lost 30 lbs doing the same thing. I went to a friends wedding last weekend, got out the suit i’d bought last year but never worn and the trousers fell down – a great moment in my life! Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone.

A pleasure to read it Next run,  Paris in the spring.

Ah, you answer my question above. I hope you enjoy Paris and why not have a damm good cry at the end! charlie

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I ran my first marathon in Antwerp, Belgium last Sunday (23 Sep).  I am 45 years old and ran it in 4:11.  This is something I have always wanted to do. I was so happy when I finished I almost cried.  I said almost, I’m not a wimp.  I was taking it real easy because of all the articles I read about the only goal for your first marathon should be to finish.  I passed dozens of runners in the 2nd half, I am sure I can run it much faster.  I followed one of the workout programs from the Runner’s World website, I think that is why I had so much energy during the 2nd half. The rest of the story: On New Year’s Day this year I weighed 202 pounds.  I am 70" tall.  That means I was fat.  Since then I have lost 30 pounds and have run over 800 miles and swam over 50 miles.  No diets, no pills, no wonder programs, I just pushed away from the dinner table and exercised. Why am I telling you this?  Because I can.  Just kidding.  I just wanted to share my story with someone. Next run,  Paris in the spring. Snoles

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Syntace Blackbird?????

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Any idea on the cost?

Dennis, Probably between $325 and $350. Dan Rishworth Enduro Sport – Your Triathlon Source 1-800-448-4678 and http://www.endurosport.com/ —— To Subscribe to Enduro Sport eNews, our free email newsletter, please use the following link:

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Any idea on the cost? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any word on delivery? Sam, About two weeks ago, Sham said that the (hopefully) final prototype was pending approval in Germany and we could see the first production units at the beginning of April. Keep your fingers crossed! Dan Rishworth Enduro Sport – Your Triathlon Source 1-800-448-4678 and http://www.endurosport.com/ —— To Subscribe to Enduro Sport eNews, our free email newsletter, please use the following link:

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Any word on delivery? Sam

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Any word on delivery?

Sam, About two weeks ago, Sham said that the (hopefully) final prototype was pending approval in Germany and we could see the first production units at the beginning of April. Keep your fingers crossed! Dan Rishworth Enduro Sport – Your Triathlon Source 1-800-448-4678 and http://www.endurosport.com/ —— To Subscribe to Enduro Sport eNews, our free email newsletter, please use the following link:

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New Shoes – Carnac, Sidi, ???

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My Sidi T1 shoes have a big fat single strap with a little toe Velcro flap. I have had them for two years and have not had any stretching troubles. Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do all of Sidi’s high-end shoes still use the Genuis strap system?  I would think that that would be a bit more awkward/time-consuming to use in transitions if this is indeed the case. Carnacs use velcro, which is quick and effective. Both brands are excellent shoes.  One advantage I’m aware of with the Carnacs is that they are known to be a bit wider in the toe box than most other cycling shoes.  I like the fit. As far as the tri-specific shoes, I don’t really believe that the single-strap thing is all that much of a selling point.  I’ve heard from a couple of folks who found that the uppers of the shoes stretched to the point that the single strap was useless for really tightening the shoes down adequately.  This was one of the reasons I opted for a double-strap model rather than the tri-specific shoe the last time I bought new cleats (4 years ago now). Just a couple of things to consider.  Either way, I don’t think you can go too far wrong with either brand.  Good stuff. I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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I currently use the Sidi T-1’s for both training and racing, love the fit. Carnac is also an excellent shoe, but their road shoes just don’t fit me right (love the mountain shoes, though) Try both, buy which ever fits best.

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Take a look at our Elite Tri shoe as well. http://www.elitebicycles.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Carnac and Sidi both make a "triathlon" cycling shoe. What makes it a "triathlon" shoe is that there is only one strap to close, and there is also a tab at the heel to help pull it on. The Carnac is a bit beefier than the Sidi. In the Carnac, the leather toe area extends farther up the foot. The strap also crosses the foot in a slightly different place than with the Sidi. The Carnac feels like a firmer shoe all around. The Sidi is lighter. You probably need to try them both on to see what feels most comfortable for you. Cathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them.

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Another option is the Elite Tri-Shoes by Gaerne. Well constructed, very comfortable. This is what we carry and also wear personally for training and racing. There is a complete description and picture on our site: http://Tri-Specialties.com/Elite/trishoe.htm If you have any questions, please feel free to ask – Diane Tarver http://Tri-Specialties.com 318-625-4214 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Sidi straps open outwards keeping the Velcro straps away from the chain ring.  A good thing if you are likely to remove your feet on the way in to or out of the transition area.  That is why I favored them over the Carnacs. Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Do all of Sidi’s high-end shoes still use the Genuis strap system?  I would think that that would be a bit more awkward/time-consuming to use in transitions if this is indeed the case. Carnacs use velcro, which is quick and effective. Both brands are excellent shoes.  One advantage I’m aware of with the Carnacs is that they are known to be a bit wider in the toe box than most other cycling shoes.  I like the fit. As far as the tri-specific shoes, I don’t really believe that the single-strap thing is all that much of a selling point.  I’ve heard from a couple of folks who found that the uppers of the shoes stretched to the point that the single strap was useless for really tightening the shoes down adequately.  This was one of the reasons I opted for a double-strap model rather than the tri-specific shoe the last time I bought new cleats (4 years ago now). Just a couple of things to consider.  Either way, I don’t think you can go too far wrong with either brand.  Good stuff. I’m in the market for a new pair of bike shoes and, as everyone knows, there are many, many options out there (not as bad as researching a new bike, but close…) Carnac and Sidi are currently at the top of my list because I don’t have a lot of information on other brands at the moment and also know a few people who use and like both of them. There seem to be tri specific shoes out there as well (both Carnac and Sidi make one, but I’m not sure if that is the way to go for everyday training). So, what are people putting on their feet these days? Any info on both brands and models would be greatly appreciated.

– Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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What was the best workout of you life?

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    Last year during track with my college team.  There were 4-5 of us doing the workout but everyone else was 15 sec to 1 min behind me so I was pretty much doing it myself.    1.5 mile warmup    5*1 mile (4:53, 4:53, 4:56, 4:56, 4:50)    quarter mile job between each    1.5 mile cooldown    This year I vow to do the same workout but be in the 4:40’s for each.    The most memorable was with the same group of guys.  It was low 50’s, pouring rain, strong wind with a windchill in the mid 40’s.  We headed out on an 8m run bundled up with long sleve shirts, hats, and gloves.  An hour later we came back soaked to the bone and caked with mud with only our shorts and shoes on.  The rest of the team couldn’t believe us wierd distance guys.  We did the same thing everyday till the rains let up.    dube

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Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its effect on your fitness or racing ability.. Here’s mine (or one of mine): September 27, 1981:  A 17 mile total for the day 9 mile run in the morning easy Evening endurance intervals with 2 minutes recovery finishing with hard 200’s. That evening workout was :…(I have it written exactly somewhere..) 1) easy mile 2) 4 X 1/2 mile average=2:45 3) 8 x 1/4 mile average= :75 4) 4 x 1/8 mile (220yds)=33, 32, 31, and an all out :29 5) 1 x 1/2 mile = 2:45 6) 1 mile easy I have often used the mental abilities I learned from training since there…I don’t often have to run sprints between computers these days…but it seems

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I recall a work out I did back in High School in the late 1970’s that still stands out in my mind as one of the "best" work-outs that I have ever done. In retrospect it was even "better" than some of the races that I ran at that time or since. This was no doubt because I had the good luck or misfortune(still have not decided this) to train at that time with several of the top junior runners in the country( Canada). I think I tended to over-do it in work outs . Any way, it was a warm late spring evening(no shirt running weather) and we warmed up as usual for about 2 miles with some fast strides to finish up. The work out: 8 x 800 in 2:15 – 2:16 with a one lap(400m) jog recovery. There was a group of about eight of us doing the work out, so each person got to lead one 800. I recall that my turn came up on the second last one. By them I was completely wasted, but I still managed hang on and keep the time under 2:16. Then the last one I was at the back hanging on for dear life. Another memorable work-out was a run  through some villages on the lower slopes of Mt Meru, near the town of Arushya in Tanzania. Sepectacular scenery and kids from the villages joining me along the trails. It was about 5 miles up and 5 miles down. Steve Fleck

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Best workout? Two posibilities: First:  2 x 1 mile (800m rest in 4:00) No splits looked at, none given ….. Mile one:  4:26 (I thought it was 4:40) Mile two:  4:27 (I thought it was 4:00!)  That was a tough one. Two days later 1500m PR in 3:59 Other: 3 sets of 5 x 400m 30 seconds rest within a set, 2 minutes between sets. Set one:  all 65’s Set two:  all 63’s Set three:  62, 61, 61, 59, 58. That was FUN

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Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its effect on your fitness or racing ability..

Mine was a 70/9 (bike/run) mile "brick" 5 weeks before Ironman Canada. It wasn’t fast or exciting, but the run was surprisingly pleasant and it gave me a feeling of confidence that I would actually be able to do the darn thing. Mike Tennent "TriBop" ‘98 Ironman Canada, 16:17:03

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: Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? : You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its : effect on your fitness or racing ability.. I tempted to go down the x number of intervals in y seconds, when I realized the workout I would best like to do over was (mostly) different from that. On vacation, I left in the predawn hours, running through the streets of Waikiki. Up a hill to the entrance road of Diamond Head, then up the hill toward the park, getting nice views of the early morning sky. Got into the volcano bowl and decided, what the heck. Up the trail, through the pitch black tunnel (literally by feel), up the stairs, popping out on the platform on the top of the mountain.  A woman looks up and says, "You almost missed it." I look out and see the first rays of the sun come up over the horizon. Wow. Then on the way back, a mile at about 5:00 down the street heading back to the hotel. -pfrench

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: Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? : You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its : effect on your fitness or racing ability.. 4 1/2 trips up and down a "hill" that is 5 miles and 2,500 feet elevation gain for the up and the same for the return. That’s 45 miles with about 11K up and 11K down over 11 1/2 hours. Ran the first two laps(20 miles) with a two minute break to get two more fluid bottles.  The last 2 1/2 laps were run/power_hike with stops to eat, drink and eat some more..  This was my last training run 3 weeks before a 100. P.S. The race went fantastic, 21:01 was my time and at 50 years of age. I don’t think I made the top 10 in my age group. :) — Caveat Lector!

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: Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? : You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its : effect on your fitness or racing ability..

It would have to be a 6 mile tempo I did back in 96 when I was training for Marine Corp. At the time I was trying to break 3 hours in the ‘thon and had signed up with Mark Conover for internet coaching. He had me doing lots of long intervals and brutal tempos on the track. The goals were to a) make 6:51 feel easy, and b) teach me to pace myself. I had a lot of trouble with b. The goal was 6 miles at 6:20. Not a couple miles at 6:10, then a couple at 6:20, then a couple at 6:30, but 6 miles as close to 6:20 as I could keep them. It was hot, and nobody else wanted to join me for the whole workout. I talked a couple people into running every other mile with me. The first three went well, but I could feel the fatigue during the fourth. I was still holding around 6:18 going into the fifth mile. When I hit 5 at 6:17 I knew I was going to make it. I realized about halfway through the 6th mile that if I did another lap I could break 40 minutes in a 10K. Hit the 6 mile mark at 6:19, cruised one lap at what felt like a leasurely 1:40 and finished with a 39:30. Physically the workout sucked. Six miles in the heat at near race pace in the middle of the training week was a big physical and mental challenge. I dreaded doing up beforehand and up through about 5 miles. Once I realized I COULD do it I was elated.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? : You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its : effect on your fitness or racing ability.. It would have to be a 6 mile tempo I did back in 96 when I was training for Marine Corp. At the time I was trying to break 3 hours in the ‘thon and had signed up with Mark Conover for internet coaching. He had me doing lots of long intervals and brutal tempos on the track. The goals were to a) make 6:51 feel easy, and b) teach me to pace myself. I had a lot of trouble with b. The goal was 6 miles at 6:20. Not a couple miles at 6:10, then a couple at 6:20, then a couple at 6:30, but 6 miles as close to 6:20 as I could keep them. It was hot, and nobody else wanted to join me for the whole workout. I talked a couple people into running every other mile with me. The first three went well, but I could feel the fatigue during the fourth. I was still holding around 6:18 going into the fifth mile. When I hit 5 at 6:17 I knew I was going to make it. I realized about halfway through the 6th mile that if I did another lap I could break 40 minutes in a 10K. Hit the 6 mile mark at 6:19, cruised one lap at what felt like a leasurely 1:40 and finished with a 39:30. Physically the workout sucked. Six miles in the heat at near race pace in the middle of the training week was a big physical and mental challenge. I dreaded doing up beforehand and up through about 5 miles. Once I realized I COULD do it I was elated.

A 2:58 marathon on a treadmill. As  promotion for a research project looking at glucose utilization during a marathon I ran a sub 3 hour marathon in a lab. To facilitate blood extraction I had a catheter in my left arm from which a nurse would draw blood every 15 minutes. In the last half hour the vein collapsed and they had to use a needle which led to some blood flying around. The medical staff was concerned that this would upset me but I thought it was great. I had water on demand and a large fan to keep me cool and of course, no sun, no wind, no hills  to worry about. I actually gained a pound during the marathon as opposed to losing the usual 3-5. I also did a TV interview at 20 miles which was fun. As I recall there was a poster of Grete Waitz (whom I had met at an indoor track meet in Ottawa) on the wall in front of the treadmill for inspiration. A number of runners I knew came by at various times to kibbutz. It was without doubt the easiest marathon I ever ran. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html

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Its hard to pick out one of the 6000-some runs, but when there is fantastic and special scenery while your run is going well. Like seeing downtown San Fransisco poke out of the fog at sunrise while running in the Stanford hills … coming around a hill where I live now and seeing the snowcapped Rockies front range glowing red in the sunrise …

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A 2:58 marathon on a treadmill. As  promotion for a research project looking at glucose utilization during a marathon I ran a sub 3 hour marathon in a lab. To facilitate blood extraction I had a catheter in my left arm from which a nurse would draw blood every 15 minutes. In the last half hour the vein collapsed and they had to use a needle which led to some blood flying around. The medical staff was concerned that this would upset me but I thought it was great. I had water on demand and a large fan to keep me cool and of course, no sun, no wind, no hills  to worry about. I actually gained a pound during the marathon as opposed to losing the usual 3-5. I also did a TV interview at 20 miles which was fun. As I recall there was a poster of Grete Waitz (whom I had met at an indoor track meet in Ottawa) on the wall in front of the treadmill for inspiration. A number of runners I knew came by at various times to kibbutz. It was without doubt the easiest marathon I ever ran.

Excellent story!! Mike When good men are silent, evil will reign "In certain trying circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity furnishes a relief denied even to prayer." The Thompson of web pages: http://www.teleport.com/~mthomps/Thompson.htm The Barefoot Lizard Page: http://www.barefootlizard.com

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: Here’s an interesting thread:  What was the best workout of your life? : You can define "best" as fastest, funnest, or most productive in terms of its : effect on your fitness or racing ability..

My best, I’d have to say, is having its effect long afterward, and only indirectly does it affect my fitness and racing ability. I think is was 1993 or 94, anyway it was early in my running "career". I was finishing a three mile run, going up this rise near my house. I felt tired and was just plodding along. Then I looked to my right and it seemed like he appeared out of nowhere. He was an older gentleman and he quickly struck up a conversation.  We got to my house and talked. He left with a promise to do some runs with me. He kept that promise. His name is Don Robins. Since then he has helped me in training runs, coached me through two marathons, and told me countless stories of races, people, and places. During a training run he is almost always talking. He has pushed me in races, both by blowing my doors off and by sticking with me. I’ll never forget that training run when I first met him. Thanks, Don, for all the help!   Ed — Ed Prochak Magic Interface, Ltd. 440-498-3702

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -When I was 34 I ran a 5:12 mile on a banked indoor wooden track at the University of NC at Chapel Hill in an all-comers Friday night track meet. I did it as my weekly interval training in preparation for the 1981 Marine Corps Marathon.  It was my first and only ever competitive mile.  There were about 30 runners in the race.  I came in second to a 15 year old boy!  In November I ran the Marine Corps Marathon in 3 hours and 30 seconds.  I had the splits through the 22nd mile for a 2:49 marathon, but fell apart and couldn’t keep the pace up.  I think I averaged 6:12 miles through mile 22. Now at age 52 it is a challenge to run an 8 minute mile.  I usually run at an 8:45 pace for 5 miles 5 days a week.  I am 6′1" and weigh now 180.  In 1981 I weighed 162-165.

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Michigan UP tri-series?

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Is there still a UP tri series? I lived in Marinette in 95 and did 3 of the 5 races.  They where great races.  Since it looks like I may be moving back to Marinette in Jan (ugh – moving from New Orleans to WI in Jan – now there’s a "chilling" thought), I looking for a point of contact, email address, etc. Thanks, Jim

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Yes they still do have the series.  As far as a contact, I am not quit sure on whom to contact. Try to get a hold of a copy of Mid East Triathlete. It covers the MI, OH, IN, IL area.   It has results and a calender among other things. Maybe even a chamber of commerce from a city that has held a race, might be a good place to start. Like…Copper Harbor.

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Denver Triathletes – seeking training info -

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Chris, welcome to Denver. If you’re south, you have direct access to the west, and the foothills/canyons. Also, Washington Park has a nice 2.2 mi loop thru it, good for maintenance rides. Downtown there are a couple pools, the YMCA, Denver Athletic Club (pricey) and Denver Place. If you ask me, north of Denver has better riding/rural areas, but like all of the metro area, it’s growing fast. Running at lunch is a favorite of mine, there are lots of places to go. Call me sometime. Steve

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Steve, what part of Denver(or burbs) are you located in ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Chris, welcome to Denver. If you’re south, you have direct access to the west, and the foothills/canyons. Also, Washington Park has a nice 2.2 mi loop thru it, good for maintenance rides. Downtown there are a couple pools, the YMCA, Denver Athletic Club (pricey) and Denver Place. If you ask me, north of Denver has better riding/rural areas, but like all of the metro area, it’s growing fast. Running at lunch is a favorite of mine, there are lots of places to go. Call me sometime. Steve

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Try the Tri-Altitude Multisport Club at (303)471-0512. Four coached workouts a week (includes two swimming workouts by a USAT certified triathlon coach. Mike Gordon

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Chris, I’m north of Denver about 18 mi (halfway between Boulder and Denver) in a town called Broomfield. It’s a nice place Scrap Iron Steve

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I’m moving to the Denver area – probably central or south/central area (Cherry Creek).  Can anyone give me the lowdown on where I can cycle – even if it’s a boring loop in a park – and swim (25m pool w/ laplanes – not to crowded) in the downtown area? I’m having a little moving anxiety and need some reassurance. Thanks very much.                Regards                Chris Crawford

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Cleveland area tri clubs??

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One more thing…. Is there a Cleveland area triathlon club that I haven’t heard of?  I’m from the west side of Cleveland, about 30 minutes from downtown. Also, does anyone know of a good, competitive tri club in Montreal, QUE?  I might be going to university there, and I’m looking for some fast people to train with. Thanks again, Matt

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Tom, There aren’t any formal tri-clubs in Cleveland – however, most of the triathletes do get together for various workouts during the week and weekend. A large group trains at the OMNI fitness center which is located in Middleburg Hts. Their is another group of triathletes and roadies at bike at Second Sole running shop in Rocky River. Jim S.

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What's the scoop on Mark Bates?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this guy? Chaz, Chaz! Look him up in your Triathlon Sourcebook! He’s there – page 52 – and I quote: "Mark Bates, Canada "1996: 5th, Canadian duathlon champs, 1st, Kingston; 2nd, Canadian triathlon champs; 9th, Schu’s; 40th, ITU World Triathlon Champs; 7th, ITU World Long-Distance Champs; 7th, ITU-Sydney; 18th, ITU-Noosa. "1995: 2nd, Pan Am Games; 7th, ITU-Derry; 7th, ITU-Drummondville; 7th, Chicago; 8th, ITU World Duathlon Champs; 15th, ITU World Triathlon Champs." Triathlon Sourcebook: 1997

Katherine – Those finishes are high, but has he gone up against Spence before? He beat him by a minute and a half…which is a friggin’ lifetime for the pros at international distance…I’m impressed. Chaz

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Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this guy? Chaz

Well, he’s Canadian. He’s won the Canadian Championship a few times, I believe. He has done quite well in the World Championships over the years – finishing in the top ten on more than one occassion. I would say that his strength is the run, where he can be quite tough. He and Andrew MacMartin have been our best short course (male) performers over the last few years – Peter Reid is, of course, the best North American Ironman-length triathlete. Chris

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Mark Bates is one of the top triathletes in the world. He has qualified for and competed in everyone of the ITU World Championships and has the best finishing record of any athlete in this highly competitive event. He has twice been the Canadian Triathlon Champion and has won many races in Canada and placed well in numerous international races for the past 7 years. Bates lives and trains in North Vancouver, B.C. Coming to triathlon from a swimming back ground, in a few short years, Bates turned himself into a formidable runner. He can now swim cycle and run with the best in the world – even Spencer Smith  apprently. Steve Fleck

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Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this guy? Chaz

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Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this guy? Chaz

He’s been around for more than a few years. I think he has won the canadian nationals at leas t three times.  He has also placed in the top 5 in several pro races in north america.  He has also placed top 15 at ITU worlds but i can’t remember the year.  He is a very good all round triathlete with no real weekness and he’s a great guy as well. — Derek Theriault Equipe de triathlon Universite Laval SAS 2254, PEPS Universite Laval Ste-Foy, PQ, Canada G1K 7P4 Fax 418-656-5749 Tel 418-845-3793

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: Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat : Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this : guy? : Chaz Mark has been one of the top international athletes and top ten world championship finisher for many years.  He also has one of the best Triathlon Training videos out there. -Charlie

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Pardon my ignorance, but I’ve never heard of Mark Bates, the guy who beat Spencer at memphis in May. Anybody out in RST land got any scoopage on this guy?

Chaz, Chaz! Look him up in your Triathlon Sourcebook! He’s there – page 52 – and I quote: "Mark Bates, Canada "1996: 5th, Canadian duathlon champs, 1st, Kingston; 2nd, Canadian triathlon champs; 9th, Schu’s; 40th, ITU World Triathlon Champs; 7th, ITU World Long-Distance Champs; 7th, ITU-Sydney; 18th, ITU-Noosa. "1995: 2nd, Pan Am Games; 7th, ITU-Derry; 7th, ITU-Drummondville; 7th, Chicago; 8th, ITU World Duathlon Champs; 15th, ITU World Triathlon Champs." Triathlon Sourcebook: 1997

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Race Report: Last Years Marathon Disaster

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David, you had me laughing and crying (thinking back to my first marathon). You and Tri-baby should do a race together then write about the race. The story would be great! Steve

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Ahh – like thanks for the encouragement. Actually, loved the story.  I plan on doing my first marathon May 4 in Pittsburgh.  (I’m told it is the flatest marathon in the world. ;-) ).   Now I know why I keep forcing myself to go to the gym or outside in 30F weather to do a 10 miler.   –Eric   When you run uphill you get closer to god.

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Absolutely great story, David! Can’t wait to see IMC ‘97! -Rolf — Call me IronMac …                         … I tri …                                          … I prefer Macintosh! IMC ‘94 – 14:06:47   IMC ‘95 – 11:58:35    IMC ‘97 – 10:45:00

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        Triathlon season is nearly here, and I for one am filled with anticipation. But in my efforts to focus on the positive aspects of last season, I am still reminded of the negative. This is a race report that should be titled "How Not to Run A Marathon" or "I Can’t Believe I Am Still Alive". Read on, take this as a lesson, as humor, and as a promise that I will do much better next time around. Background: I decided to be a triathlete last march, so in preparation I ran a couple of local running races in spring. On a whim, I decided to do a marathon, with a scant 7 weeks of training. Bad Idea… Ignorance is not bliss. Race Report: 22th Annual National Capital Marathon      May 12, 1996 saw me compete in my first marathon. Please note I wrote "compete" not run. The race in question was the 22th annual Nation Capital Marathon, raced in and around downtown Ottawa. My training for this event consisted of running 5 to 10 km. every day since March 1st, coupled with expensive an jacket and shoes no less. (Yes, the all important long run was not a weekly event) At least this was the plan; I had the shoes but the training was not forthcoming. I had started strong, braved the cold and the training was quite effective. Unfortunately, school (exams), work, and a variety of imaginative excuses cut down my running significantly. I was realistically running 25 km. a week, with my furthest distance being around 12 km. Nevertheless I was motivated, eager, and look, I had new gear.      Careful examination of the weather reports for race day promised "lower than seasonable temperatures" coupled with rain and wind. That didn’t faze me, as I told anyone who would listen, "I like running when it is cold, I don’t sweat as much." My listeners invariably ignored that comment and replied, "Wow, you’re going to run a marathon." I would reply with a nod, and say something stupid about how I wanted to test myself. Yes Houston, The Ego has landed. More on weather later.      Leading up to this event saw me consuming carbohydrates, drinking lots of water, and cutting back on my workouts. The later part wasn’t hard, cutting back meant that I didn’t have to make any excuses not to run. But in all fairness, a large object at work came in contact with my knee and I wouldn’t have been able to run anyway. The night before the big event saw me drinking lots of water and watching Pretty Woman alone. Yes, the social life of an wannbe athlete. I went to bed at around 11 o’clock and set my alarm for 6:30. I couldn’t sleep: I was nervous, Chariots of Fire dreams, and an overwhelming urge to piss every five minutes kept me awake for a good hour and a half.      Race day saw me playing "hammer the snooze button every five minutes for a good half hour" before finally getting out of bed. My house was freezing, we had stopped turning on the heater because it was supposed to be spring. Remember those "lower than seasonal temperatures…" With my stomach satisfied with more water, a bagel, and an apple I jumped into my parents van (race day means reliable transportation is needed) and drove to the races. I wasn’t sure about what clothes to wear, at this point the weather was "just cold". I finally decided to pack everything and resolved to wear what everyone else was wearing. (not literally) As I drove downtown it started to rain/snow and my running glory dreams slowly started to ebb away. When I arrived on site I searched fruitlessly for a free parking spot. I eventually parked in a "one hour parking only spot" on the principle that if I get towed it won’t ruin my day. After all, I would have run a marathon and feeling like crap anyway. (Bad but by this time realistic attitude) In the big organization building (forget the name) I mingled with my fellow runners and casually observed what they were wearing. Everything from parkas to tank tops where evident, and I realized that I would have to make up my own mind. Track pants: good choice and I had worn them for my previous two 10 km. runs. Race tee-shirt: bad choice, new and not broken in. (More on chaffing later) Expensive K-way running jacket (Got it for half price): good choice as it rained/snowed for most of the race.      "Three minutes to start", was the announcement. Stop stretching, drink more water, look confident, and run to the Blue Bombers (portable blue shitters) Business attended to and its a dash to the start line… breathing hard all ready… find a start position… chose to start with the 3:45 wave… more small stretches… look confident even thought I am really nervous… damn this jacket I’m hot already… search for an excuse not to do this… race begins… 15 seconds later number 5815 can start running… I’m off like a prom dress!!      The rest of this sordid tale shall be told in bits and pieces as I was not exactly in the proper mind set to remember each and every part.      The race begins with a small climb up Elgin street, I reminisced about pulling my Rich-shaw up this very hill, only this time I’m not pulling a load of two obnoxious and drunk fat guys with their mutual girl-friend. Look at me go! Damn these crowds the’re holding me back!      Soon I reach the Alexandra bridge on the way to Hull. (Rick- shaw reminisce deleted) I was two minutes over my planned pacing due to my slow start and large crowds. No problem, I’ll make it up later. I can almost taste that 3:45. I laugh and joke with my fellow runners as we get buffed my a very cold wind off the water. We can handle it, we’re Canadian!      The weather co-operated for the next ten kilometres, I swear at myself for wearing a jacket. Look at those people in their tank- tops, look at them go, if I had a tank-top I would be winning this race.      From the 5 km. I find myself keeping pace with two almost identically dressed and sized women. They talk about running, boyfriends, and life in general, never mind that they are running a marathon. These "Bobsy twins" run well so I follow them for an hour or so.      By kilometre twelve mother nature rears her ugly head. The wind picks up and the cold rain starts to fall. Soon I am running with my head down, trying to shield my face from the freezing rain. The wind gusts at the least appropriate places, namely when I am facing it or when I am going up a hill. Look at those people in soaking wet tank-tops, they look even more miserable than me. Good thing I wore my jacket!      Going down Queen-Elizabeth drive from kilometre 15 to 21 was particular miserable for the same reasons. At one point a women appears and runs beside her man, shouting encouragement and motivating him. Looking miserable wearing his wet tee-shirt and shorts, I think he would have preferred a hug. Still pacing with the Bobsy twins, I wonder if they have noticed me.      The official half-way point is greeted with some remorse. I watch the half-marathoners finish to the cheering crowd, and I come to the stark realization that I would have to do another loop of the course with the same conditions as I just experienced. Depressing, but I am half way done! My time was 1:53, I was on pace to break 4 hours! The Elgin street hill was not as easy as before…      Kilometre 25 saw an attractive women pull up beside me. We exchanged the typical race banter, "pretty miserable huh?" "yah, this is a hard one". Her pace was a little faster than mine, but a good motivater for me to pick up the pace. She soon said that this was her second race and she wanted to break 4 hours. After a little more talk she accelerated and soon disappeared. Wheels began turning in my head: she was going to break 4 hours… I wanted to break 4 hours… she was running faster than me… I couldn’t run any faster… I think I am in trouble… Worst, the Bobsy twins where way ahead…      My legs chose to disappear around kilometre 27. I passed a tall guy who was walking, and silently vowed that I would never walk. A kilometre later my legs parted company and I was slowed to an almost crawl. What’s this? Then I realized, I had just run more in 2:30 hours than I had been running in the weeks before the race. Shit! Sucks to be me. I soon realized that the rest of this race would be a matter of survival, forget about making a good time. People began to pass me and I feared for my survival. I didn’t consider quitting because to get to the finish line and where I was parked would necessitate me walking another 15 km. anyway. I reasoned that the finish line, my transportation, and a hot bath would come quicker if I ran instead of walking. So I gritted my teeth and resumed my pathetic pace. Walk… Run… Walk… Consider crawling walked instead… Run… Walk… Run…      To Island Park Drive… Under the Queensway… Ash Lane… Nice water… Morningside drive… Man this marathon stuff sucks. I selfishly felt a little better when I passed a tank-top clad runner in obvious distress. My moral plummeted as he passed me, we continued our personal game of cat and mouse or a couple of kilometres until I pulled ahead of him. It was on Morningside where I was passed by a woman who must have been over 60 years old. I silently congratulated her for her tenacity and swore at myself for my weakness. This future Ironman has just been passed by a grandmother, the shame! It is this kind of experience that makes one vow to quit the sport or to double my training. At kilometre 30 my heart was with the former.      Oh look, kilometre 34, only 8.2 to go. I attached my crippled form to a couple who looked perfectly contented with the pace they were setting. Hey, when I run with someone I don’t stop as much, maybe I will get through this yet. We stop at 36 km. at the water point, I don’t want to be an obvious tag along so I leave before them. I figured that when they passed me again I would resume pacing them. The problem came when they passed me, I couldn’t keep up anymore.      The last 5 kilometres saw my staggering form alternate between

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Running Log Software

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I have been attempting to chose a running software program and am having some difficulty. If you use or have used programs, could some of you knowlegeable and wise readers please send me your views and opinions. I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks. — Jacques J. Therrien

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I am using The Athletes Diary, a log program for windows and mac. It has several features I like: a sharp learning curve, choice of which day you begin week on; weekly or monthly views, calendar or list view; abililty to track other "keyword" items (weight, HR, etc.); running monthly, weekly, and yearly totals; ability to graph by pace, distance, time spent, or # of entries per; useful for running, biking, swimming.   I have used/ tried Runstat, Runtrak, Mile Manager, RunCoach and UltaCoach (Runners’ version), and *I* like TAD best.  I found the others to be either too much or too little.   I do not know any of the people associated with any of these programs and am not in their employ.  As always, YMMV.

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I am using The Athletes Diary, a log program for windows and mac. YMMV.

Where does one get TAD? Jim Vermeulen

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The Athlete’s Diary can be obtained from Stevens Creek Software, 21346 Rumford Drive, Cupertino, CA 95014.  I’ve been using it for about 18 months and like it.  I originally downloaded a copy from AOL for free that let you try it for 25 days.  After 25 entries, the free version doesn’t accept any more data, but by then you have decided whether you want to buy the program or not.  I think it’s about $50.  The company has an Internet Walt in San Jose

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You can get a demo copy, which is limited to 25 entries or so, via ftp from storm.cadcam.iupui.edu. under pub/drs//software/diary.  

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Where does one get TAD? Jim Vermeulen

Correcting some slight misinformation from subsequent posters, our best (most particular is defunct].  While there are demo copies of the software scattered in various places, the most up-to-date versions are always found in our own ftp site – see the .sig below. Steve Patt, Stevens Creek Software   WWW: http://alumni.caltech.edu/~slp/tad.html (The Athlete’s Diary home page)   ftp directory: alumni.caltech.edu/pub/slp (Information and demo copies)

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I’m looking running Log software preferably from shareware. I’d like opinions on features and function. Thanks.

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Dennis, I have recently finished my search and decided to go with ‘RunLog Deluxe’ from Pegasus Software  (and I tested a lot of software in the process). There is a 45 entry trial version available for download from their web site… http://www.pegasussoftware.com/ I like RunLog primarily for its simple uncluttered user interface, yet powerful tracking and graphing abilities.  The customizable user fields allow you to track almost anything that isn’t already built into the program. If you want a fairly extensive list of available running software (most have a trial version), check out the Runner’s Web at http://www.sirius.on.ca/running.html — Regards, Martin Donkers — —  Sorry, I cannot handle the junk mail any longer!! —  If you try to ‘reply’ to this message via email, —  remove the words NO & JUNK from my email address, —  or use my actual email address below. — — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking running Log software preferably from shareware. I’d like opinions on features and function. Thanks.

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I’m looking running Log software preferably from shareware. I’d like opinions on features and function.

You should be sure to try The Athlete’s Diary. A fully functional (25-entry http://www.stevenscreek.com Also at that same web site are complete details on all the features of the software, as well as excerpts from dozens of reviews published in running, cycling, triathlon, and computer magazines over the last eight years. Steve Patt Stevens Creek Software/The Athlete’s Bookstore   http://www.stevenscreek.com

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Can anyone recommend a good computer log, especially one that can import Polar exercise files? Thanks — Jim Brown

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www.crosstrak.com

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