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Hi, Has anyone heard or seen anything about the race location being moved from Camp Pendelton for the 2001 event? Thanks in advance… Wade

Wade,   Nope, as far as I know there is no change over last year other than a swim that will be 2.4 miles versus 2.4 nautical miles. You can check out the web site at http://www.ironmancalifornia.com B.Oliver (I’ll be there again!) http://members.aol.com/triathltb/index.html

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Check out http://www.latriclub.com/reading/imsb.pdf for a copy of a newspaper article with more details. JP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There was a rumor on the IM Cal Comments Page that the race director was in Santa Barbara feeling out the city about moving the race in the future. I think there was also a newspaper article. clm in sf Hi, Has anyone heard or seen anything about the race location being moved from Camp Pendelton for the 2001 event? Thanks in advance… Wade Wade,   Nope, as far as I know there is no change over last year other than a swim that will be 2.4 miles versus 2.4 nautical miles. Before you buy.

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There was a rumor on the IM Cal Comments Page that the race director was in Santa Barbara feeling out the city about moving the race in the future. I think there was also a newspaper article. clm in sf Hi, Has anyone heard or seen anything about the race location being moved from Camp Pendelton for the 2001 event? Thanks in advance… Wade Wade,   Nope, as far as I know there is no change over last year other than a swim that will be 2.4 miles versus 2.4 nautical miles.

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Hi, Has anyone heard or seen anything about the race location being moved from Camp Pendelton for the 2001 event? Thanks in advance… Wade

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You are probably talking about a new ’site’ as in web site announced on their web page called "Ironman Motivations" at <  http://www.ironmanflorida.com/motivation.htm Here is what they say about it, "Ironman Motivations is the only program of its kind in the world. It was developed with the intention of taking corporate teams behind the scenes at an Ironman Triathlon. By working an aid station and hanging medals on the finishing athletes, team members will experience, first hand, the immense challenges these athletes overcome in order to reach their goal of becoming an Ironman. Ironman Motivations takes you as close to an Ironman as you can get, without having to do the race!" I do not think there is a course change planned…could be wrong. Randy

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Yesterday I did my first triathlon in 14 years and my 13 year old son also did the race (500M/18mi/3mi). I was his first tri and he got a trophy for first in his age group (male 11-14). Although he was the youngest male and the only one in his age group I was very proud of him since his only other events have been 1 5K and 2 10K runs. Mike Rappe

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     Congrats!!  This is probably the ultimate Tri-success!!  My daughter is 16 months old and we are still working on her swimming and biking (she just pushes it)….but, she has the transitions (naked – just like the old days) and running (sort of) down pat!!  :-) david Never give up, Be satisfied w/ your best, Do unto others…..

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For me it is double it and add 30 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the "rough estimate" is to double the time and add an hour- but that assumes similar course and conditions and conditioning…

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Kevin – A few more data points: May 99 – Wildflower – 5:03 Aug99 – IMC – 11:06 Oct99 – IMH – 10:38 Double it and add an hour sounds about right to me. gordo

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Re: ironman vs half ironman For me its double it and take off (!!!!) half and hour. There is no rule – do and and enjoy it. Chris Eversfield Chairman  -  Team Volcano International http://www.btinternet.com/~dra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont tell my charming wife, but all this talk has me thinking about doing the full distance IM. So, my question is, how do IM times compare to 1/2 IM times? For someone who can do a 5 1/2 hr 1/2, what can you expect (given decent conditions) just wondering…. Kevin Before you buy.

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Dont tell my charming wife, but all this talk has me thinking about doing the full distance IM. So, my question is, how do IM times compare to 1/2 IM times? For someone who can do a 5 1/2 hr 1/2, what can you expect (given decent conditions) just wondering…. Kevin Before you buy.

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It has been in my experience of doing both 1/2s and fulls and talking to others, the times are really hard to compare.  I know some people slow down tremendously from a 1/2 to full while others splits have gotten better.  In my humble opionon, there is not a magic way to do that like running… stefan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont tell my charming wife, but all this talk has me thinking about doing the full distance IM. So, my question is, how do IM times compare to 1/2 IM times? For someone who can do a 5 1/2 hr 1/2, what can you expect (given decent conditions) just wondering…. Kevin Before you buy.

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the "rough estimate" is to double the time and add an hour- but that assumes similar course and conditions and conditioning…

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Apples and oranges, really. My best time at Wildflower Long Course is a 6:21.  My best time at IMC is 12:10.  It amazes me to consider that I did a full in less than double the time for a half, BUT, Wildflower is no ordinary half! On the other hand, my best time at the 1/2 Vineman is just under 5:40. Double that and you have 11:20.  Add half an hour and you’d get 11:50. Can I do an 11:50 IM?  Hmmm.  I’d like to think so.  Maybe some day….. Anyway, it’s just so hard to guess because courses in various half and full IMs are so different.  Not to mention the experience factor with the longer distance, which can make an enormous difference. So this doesn’t answer your question very well, but I guess I’ll go with the fellow who said "Double your 1/2 time and add half an hour."  That’s a nice conservative guesstimate. Dont tell my charming wife, but all this talk has me thinking about doing the full distance IM. So, my question is, how do IM times compare to 1/2 IM times? For someone who can do a 5 1/2 hr 1/2, what can you expect (given decent conditions) just wondering…. Kevin

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That’s what they said, alright.   He was the key figure in making triathlon what it is today so it appears to many that it all began with him. Larry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did I hear right in the opening,  John Collins was the founder of the sport of triathlon?  I could of swore that is what they said.  I’ll have to watch it on tape.  I’m sure the folks in San Diego would not appreciate that.

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I liked the way she stated "It’s not about weight loss, It’s about healthy living". That is truly what it’s all about, Isn’t it. Yeh, and five minutes later Jurgen Zack is throwing up blood.

Not that it may make a difference, but I think he was caughing up blood.  Does anyone know how dangerous this is?  It seems as though caughing up blood could be due to using your lungs like crazy over an extended period of time and doesn’t necessarily mean something dangerous.  Vomiting blood, however, seems like it might indicate a more serious condition.  anyone?…anyone? Thanks, Doug

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I believe it is more common to cough up blood. I did it in 97, I believe from vomiting fluids I had irritated my esophagus enough to cause some minor bleeding. I did have some blood in the vomit, but very little. I was fine the next day. The loss of fluid was the big deal. andy

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That’s what they said, alright.   He was the key figure in making triathlon what it is today so it appears to many that it all began with him.

Considering that he has no financial interest in the event, you really have to question how involved he has been in making the Ironman the event that it is. Sure he came up with the idea, but the real work was done by others. Either that or he’s a very bad businessman.

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You seem to be basing your comments on what it’s like today rather than rewinding back to what it was like at the onset.  In 1978 there was no triathlon except for  some small, local events.   The Ironman was conceived to test man’s abilities beyond how they were being tested at the time.  It was insanity to think that people were capable of such a feat.  Yet he and some friends tried it anyway. John Collins was a Naval Commander and the Navy was his life – the Ironman was a passion.  When the Navy transferred him from Hawaii he sold the event.  I don’t think he ever intended to make a living off from it. So he still gets praise for having the guts to propose and follow through with an incredible, impossible, crazy idea that has become a world wide sport that is now an Olympic event.  His short involvement made it all happen and he deserves credit for that. If you want to pick on someone who became a celebrity for doing nothing, flame Joey Buttafucco.

Considering that he has no financial interest in the event, you really have – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to question how involved he has been in making the Ironman the event that it is. Sure he came up with the idea, but the real work was done by others. Either that or he’s a very bad businessman.

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Not that it may make a difference, but I think he was caughing up blood.  Does anyone know how dangerous this is?  

Well, if you’re coughing up blood than it’s in your lungs – which is a Really Bad Thing(tm)  It’s possible for one to drown that way.  Of course, this is all just IMHO, as I’m not a doctor and know little of anatomy.  At least with vomiting blood, it’s unlikely you’ll drown. TTYL!

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Travis thought a bit as he watched the Ct. Collins "finish" footage, he turned to me, his young voice swelled with acusation:                    "It’s all his fault isn’t it, Dad!"

Sort of like the lady standing on the rim of the Grand Canyon who commented to a Ranger, "Do you mean that one little river caused all this destruction?" Mike "It’s all in your perspective." Tennent "TriBop" ‘98 Ironman Canada, 16:17:03

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I liked the way she stated "It’s not about weight loss, It’s about healthy living". That is truly what it’s all about, Isn’t it. Randy IMC 96-13:10, 97-12:02, & 99. ??:?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow what a great story.  I really hope we see a lot of men and women who are working on their health doing triathlons next year.  I would love to see a lot of 300+ pound people becoming healthy 200 +/- pound people as they pass me by on the run (since I am one of the slowest runners on earth).We should definatly be a sport that welcomes all shapes and sizes.  A lot of us seek that perfect body and in our desire to get that we might shut out a person like Judy.  By the way I’m not writing this because triathletes as a group are not accepting of others.  Actually, I have never met a beter group of people who are both caring and encouraging.  Its just that the mesages of our society can seap into our lives so easily.  I also think our sport is the best endurance sport for people in this position. Now time to get off my soap box Mike

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I’m new to triathlon and old (42–no email please on that not being old!). Triathlon is by far an "everyman’s" sport.  The best stories aren’t about  the pros, the best stories are about the regular person who does this for personal reasons.  The pros help us learn, but the fun is in the rest of the group.

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Wow what a great story.  I really hope we see a lot of men and women who are working on their health doing triathlons next year.  I would love to see a lot of 300+ pound people becoming healthy 200 +/- pound people as they pass me by on the run (since I am one of the slowest runners on earth).We should definatly be a sport that welcomes all shapes and sizes.  A lot of us seek that perfect body and in our desire to get that we might shut out a person like Judy.  By the way I’m not writing this because triathletes as a group are not accepting of others.  Actually, I have never met a beter group of people who are both caring and encouraging.  Its just that the mesages of our society can seap into our lives so easily.  I also think our sport is the best endurance sport for people in this position. Now time to get off my soap box Mike

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Quite the awesome presentation of the race, I loved it for all the angles shown, but I must say that the pro’s took a back seat emotionally to the rest of the athletes.. Watching the struggles of all the "regular" people during the race and at the finish made my heart swell to the point of pushing tears from my eyes..                                        Buck

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Did I hear right in the opening,  John Collins was the founder of the sport of triathlon?  I could of swore that is what they said.  I’ll have to watch it on tape.  I’m sure the folks in San Diego would not appreciate that. Ken Strayer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At the begining of the IMH telecast, during the interview with Ct. John Collins, I explained to, Travis, my 9 year-old that Ct. Collins was the inventor of the "Ironman." Predictable questions followed . . . did he win . . . was he the best . . . how long did it take him . . . ? Towards the end of the coverage Travis asked who the winner was – I provided him my usual "Dad" reply: "Everyone who finished." Both of my children are used to this answer, so he narrowed the choice to "first," I answered. Then I was asked how I did, I gave him my position. Travis then wanted to know if anyone went to the hospital? I relpied: "Yes, Travis, *many* people went to the hospital" Travis thought a bit as he watched the Ct. Collins "finish" footage, he turned to me, his young voice swelled with acusation: "It’s all his fault isn’t it, Dad!" "<G Yes, it is Travis, Yes, it is <G" From the mouths of babes . . . Good Training, Good Racing, Good Qualifying, Joe Joseph C. Foster "It’s all his fault isn’t it!" –  Travis Foster

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At the begining of the IMH telecast, during the interview with Ct. John Collins, I explained to, Travis, my 9 year-old that Ct. Collins was the inventor of the "Ironman." Predictable questions followed . . . did he win . . . was he the best . . . how long did it take him . . . ? Towards the end of the coverage Travis asked who the winner was – I provided him my usual "Dad" reply: "Everyone who finished." Both of my children are used to this answer, so he narrowed the choice to "first," I answered. Then I was asked how I did, I gave him my position. Travis then wanted to know if anyone went to the hospital? I relpied: "Yes, Travis, *many* people went to the hospital" Travis thought a bit as he watched the Ct. Collins "finish" footage, he turned to me, his young voice swelled with acusation:                         "It’s all his fault isn’t it, Dad!" "<G Yes, it is Travis, Yes, it is <G" From the mouths of babes . . . Good Training, Good Racing, Good Qualifying, Joe Joseph C. Foster "It’s all his fault isn’t it!" –  Travis Foster

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Try the runner’s world calculator at: http://www.runnersworld.com/misc/timecalc.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ Last year I ran a 3:30:53 marathon four weeks after a 1:37:45 half. I was trained for both and the weather was nearly identical. Bill

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The "rule of thumb" based on your current conditioning would be a 3:28 marathon, or just under 8 minute miles. Since itsounds like this is BEFORE your long distance training, a 7:45 may not be out of the question. It would be more realistic to predict when you’ve done some long tempos or races closer to marathon time. — |\ ///| Crewstone Consulting ltd. | http://www.crewstone.com/ |/// \| 294 West End Boulevard    | "Nobody knows the Rubbles I’ve seen.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Based on a 1:38:56 half marathon (7:33 pace), Daniels predicts about 3:25:00 marathon (7:49 pace).  Galloway is more conservative at 3:31:13(8:04pace). So between 15-30 seconds slower than marathon pace.  The usual provisos about proper training, similar course and conditions apply.

Just a data point: In 1995 I did a 1:36 half followed by a 3:28 flat marathon two weeks later.  I only did two long runs of 18 miles, and my pace in the marathon started at 7:40s and fell to 8:15s so it wasn’t that well-paced.

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I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+

Last year I ran a 3:30:53 marathon four weeks after a 1:37:45 half. I was trained for both and the weather was nearly identical. Bill

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If this is your first marathon, I’d lean toward the conservative side. Your goal should be to finish strong. Be happy with a running pace 1 minute faster than your long run training pace. It will be a new experience, and you will be better prepared for your next marathon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. My question is as follows: Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated

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Rule of thumb: double the distance/ slow 5%. 5% of 7.55 min/mi = .377 min/mi slower Guess a pace near 7:33 + 24 or 25 seconds. About 7:57 or so. Assuming all the necessary work of preparation has been done and course / atmospheric conditions are similar. HTH  :~} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. My question is as follows: Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated

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I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. My question is as follows: Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated

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Based on a 1:38:56 half marathon (7:33 pace), Daniels predicts about 3:25:00 marathon (7:49 pace).  Galloway is more conservative at 3:31:13(8:04pace). So between 15-30 seconds slower than marathon pace.  The usual provisos about proper training, similar course and conditions apply. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. My question is as follows: Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a 43 year old running-enthusiast, middle-of-the-packer who is in training for the Disneyworld marathon in January.  Yesterday I enjoyed a half-marathon road race in Iowa City, running it in 1 hr, 38 min., 56 sec.  This translates to about a 7′33" pace.  I have already completed one marathon (a little over a year ago) and I am familiar with some of the commonly used training schedules. My question is as follows: Assuming an appropriate marathon training plan (3-6 long runs of 20+ miles, etc.) and decent weather conditions in the actual marathon in Orlando in January, what pace should I aim for as being "reasonable" in the marathon, based on my half-marathon performance?  Is 7′45" too optimistic?  How about 8′00"? Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated

Try some of the race time prediction calculations on the Runner’s Web ‘Widgets" page. Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am a female runner. I have been running for about  8 years.   2 years ago I start racing (duathlons as well as road running races). I ran my first marathon in september (3:46). Since that time I am having back problem. I have been told that I have hernia disk causing nerve iritation (sciatica).  It started to feel like an hamstrings problems, turn into my left leg (shouting pain on the side) down to my ankle, when into my right leg as well and now it is getting in my neck. I have seen physios, chiros, doctors, rmt.  I am desesperate…… I love running and I want to be able to race again.  Right now I am all day and night in pain and I can only jog (10k max) every other day. Please somebody help me! Diane.

Diane, I am wondering if the diagnosis that you were given of a hernia disk has been confirmed by radiographs or an MRI.  The reason I ask is that I had similar symptoms that a PT helped me with that seemed to be attributed to a leg lenght discrepancy.  My problems were solved by having a lift added to my orthotic and by adding a pad on my cycling shoes between the cleats and sole on my short side.  Certainly these things would not work if a herniated disk is truly your problem, however, so it’s seems that getting s definitive diagnosis is imperative.  I went through a similar round of doctors, chiropractors, and a podiatrist without being able to get to the bottom of my problem.  The bike tech who did a fit for me first suggested this as a problem based on what he saw when doing the fit.  Ultimately a local PT who is a triathlete helped me solve the problem.   Just my $0.02 worth. Good luck. Lucy

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am a female runner. I have been running for about  8 years.   2 years ago I start racing (duathlons as well as road running races). I ran my first marathon in september (3:46). Since that time I am having back problem. I have been told that I have hernia disk causing nerve iritation (sciatica).  It started to feel like an hamstrings problems, turn into my left leg (shouting pain on the side) down to my ankle, when into my right leg as well and now it is getting in my neck. I have seen physios, chiros, doctors, rmt.  I am desesperate…… I love running and I want to be able to race again.  Right now I am all day and night in pain and I can only jog (10k max) every other day. Please somebody help me! Diane. Diane, I am wondering if the diagnosis that you were given of a hernia disk has been confirmed by radiographs or an MRI.  The reason I ask is that I had similar symptoms that a PT helped me with that seemed to be attributed to a leg lenght discrepancy.  My problems were solved by having a lift added to my orthotic and by adding a pad on my cycling shoes between the cleats and sole on my short side.  Certainly these things would not work if a herniated disk is truly your problem, however, so it’s seems that getting s definitive diagnosis is imperative.  I went through a similar round of doctors, chiropractors, and a podiatrist without being able to get to the bottom of my problem.  The bike tech who did a fit for me first suggested this as a problem based on what he saw when doing the fit.  Ultimately a local PT who is a triathlete helped me solve the problem. Just my $0.02 worth. Good luck. Lucy

The only way to tell if you truly have a herniated disk is from a MRI. If you havent had one then it’s not conclusive. PDV

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Hi I am a female runner. I have been running for about  8 years.   2 years ago I start racing (duathlons as well as road running races). I ran my first marathon in september (3:46). Since that time I am having back problem. I have been told that I have hernia disk causing nerve iritation (sciatica).  It started to feel like an hamstrings problems, turn into my left leg (shouting pain on the side) down to my ankle, when into my right leg as well and now it is getting in my neck. I have seen physios, chiros, doctors, rmt.  I am desesperate…… I love running and I want to be able to race again.  Right now I am all day and night in pain and I can only jog (10k max) every other day. Please somebody help me! Diane.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am a female runner. I have been running for about  8 years.   2 years ago I start racing (duathlons as well as road running races). I ran my first marathon in september (3:46). Since that time I am having back problem. I have been told that I have hernia disk causing nerve iritation (sciatica).  It started to feel like an hamstrings problems, turn into my left leg (shouting pain on the side) down to my ankle, when into my right leg as well and now it is getting in my neck. I have seen physios, chiros, doctors, rmt.  I am desesperate…… I love running and I want to be able to race again.  Right now I am all day and night in pain and I can only jog (10k max) every other day. Please somebody help me! Diane.

I doubt that I can be of much help but do want you to know that I sympathize greatly. I have herniated disc in upper vertebrae that forced me into not running at all for a year and when I began to run again had to do very low mileage at very slow pace. It is now a year since I began again and things are going well though I’ve lowered my expectations somewhat. Herniated discs can be very serious and running is, unfortunately, one of the most aggravating things you can do to your spine so be careful and be patient. I am curious about what options your doctors have given you and what their recommendations are…Good luck….

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does anyone have info on how to contact the international triathalon union? i am looking for info on triathalons in italy and spain. linda

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does anyone have info on how to contact the international triathalon union? i am looking for info on triathalons in italy and spain. linda

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John, sorry I have to miss your camp, I will be in Sarasota 3/29-31 and Orlando 4/1-3 Are there any events / training areas that you recommend? Chuck James

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Dear Triathletes, Here’s some info on our camps. The camps will be held at Vacation Village in Clermont, Florida (15 miles west of Orlando), site of the Great Floridian Triathlon, The Florida Challenge Tri and others. The dates are April 5,6,7, 1996 and May 31, June1,2, 1996.   Jeff Cuddeback (MA in Exercise Physiology and Industrial Psychology) is coordinating the training (407-788-7030) so give him a call for any specifics.  Jeff believes in training quality over quantity;  people he’s coached in the past have improved their times with shorter training hours.  Jeff is a 35-39 age grouper who is the 1994 U.S. Champ, the 1993 U.S., World, Ironman Champion, and the 1992 Overall U.S. Champ.  The camp is aimed at age-groupers who want to improve their times and enjoyment of the sport.   The camp is designed to have people share ideas, so everyone benefits.   We’ll start the day with a short run, have breakfast, and then start the training.  Besides the 25 meter pool, there is a beautiful lake and beach to practice open water training.  Alec Rukosuev is a fantastic swimmer ( 1989 Swim Champ of Russia; 1993,94,95 Panama City Half Ironman Winner; 1993 Disney Marathon 2:21 Winner; 1st out of the water Hawaii 1994, 2nd in 1995) and supervising the swimming.  His wife, Lera Rukosuev, the 1989 USSR Swimming Champ, will also be coaching.  Bill Keith of Cannondale will also join in for cycle coaching: however Jeff’s average speed for Hawaii in 1993 was 23mph so he knows biking also.  Jim Ward, the 75+ age group phenom will be coaching also.  Jim has 6 World and 12 U.S. Championships under his belt, including 1995 Worlds and 2 Hawaii Ironman wins. The cost is $349 which includes 3 nights lodging and breakfast and lunch each day and a Saturday nite party; we request a $100 deposit to hold a spot, which is refundable up to 1 month before the camp. The price goes up to $399 on March 5 for the first camp.   Hope to see you there.  We’ll be sending out questioneres to all who have signed up soon.  E-mail me or Call 407-884-5008 for any other info. JOLF

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I need some advice on how to cure and prevent this irritating and painful disability.  For three years in a row, I have developed a strong pain in either my lateral hip area or in my lateral knee area.  In ‘93 it was in my right lateral hip; ‘94 was in my right lateral knee; ‘95 it returns , but this time in my left lateral knee area.  In ‘93 and ‘94 I went to the doctor, was referred to an orthopedict doctor, and then referred to a PT for treatment.  Both times the pain went away with treatment. yes, I continued my stretching routine throughout the year. It seems to always occur in March or April, even though I haven’t changed my training much at the time. I have tried a few different pairs of shoes, but that hasn’t seemed to make a difference.  It mainly affects my running, though sometimes biking does irritate it.  This year it developed during a half marathon that I was well trained for.  I didn’t run for two weeks, but when I tried running about 7 miles I got a sore knee.  Then I waited another 10 days before running again.  After a 8 mile run, I had some knee pain but it didn’t last too long.  After a 7 day rest period, I tried to run 4 miles, but had to quit at about 3.5 because of excrutiating knee pain that has lasted for many days now.  Monday I call the Doctor to once agian seek referrals and treatment. Any ideas will be appreciated.  I am beyond frustration at this point and want the problem to cease so I can get on with enjoying training and racing. Thanks for reading all of my bablings. Help! Andrew Butler —             *                                                      *             *  Once in a while you get shown the light             *             *  In the strangest of places if you look at it right. *

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I need some advice on how to cure and prevent this irritating and painful disability.  For three years in a row, I have developed a strong pain in either my lateral hip area or in my lateral knee area.  In ‘93 it was in my

Hi Andrew, Sorry to hear about your problems. I had a really bad period of ITB that knocked me out for over 5 months a few weeks ago (been back running 2 months now) I had physiotherapy, ultrasound, ice, heat, you name it; nothing seemed to work, then someone suggested a sports masseur. Having nothing to lose, I gave it a shot and basically, he linked the ITB + knee problems to tight quads/hamstrings, and we did a couple of subjective tests, and indeed, when I looked at it like that, certainly, my affected left (outer knee) hamstring was tighter than the right. What did he do? WEll, I just went on a course of massage, that really worked at loosening up the quads/hamstrings. He also treated it with a machine that blasted magnetic waves at the knee (though I am a little sceptical of the latter’s part in the cure). Result: Some 4-5 weeks later (after 4 months of problems and differing diagnoses) I was running again. I ran 19 miles last Sunday, 8 weeks aftter starting running again. Now, I see him every week to get a complete leg massage, as a preventative measure – as he says himself, too many athletes wait until the problems start, whereas if they took some precautionary measures – massage etc on a regular basis they might be injured less. : treatment.  Both times the pain went away with treatment. yes, I continued : my stretching routine throughout the year. It seems to always occur in March Time out here. I am fast becoming a bit of a sceptic of stretching. Consider this: if you are INJURED and you continue to stretch the affected areas, then what chance are you giving these areas a chance to heal? This is what my sports masseur (as opposed to physio, remember) recommended, and after he said it, it kinda makes sense. I can’t back this up with medical fact since I ain’t a doctor, but stopping the long ITB stretches worked for me. Tissue that is healing and is weak all of a sudden is asked to stretch out. Think of it like a perished elastic/rubber band – it’s weak and will snap if extended again. (strange analogy, I know, it was the only thing I could think of!!) Nowadays, I NEVER stretch before a run or bike. IN the case of running, I start all my runs with 10-15 mins of easy, HR < 145 jogging (I am 23, with an anaerobic threshold of about 180) – this is hard work, going so slow!!! By all means, stretch AFTERWARDS (though not when injured) which is what I do, and I have found a new lease of life! : Any ideas will be appreciated.  I am beyond frustration at this point and : want the problem to cease so I can get on with enjoying training and racing. : Thanks for reading all of my bablings. Help! No problem, Good Luck, there is light at the end of the tunnel, believe me. I have been where you have been and I know how bad it is. IMHO: Go see a masseur!! And to everyone else: Prevention is better than cure!!!! ORN: Hitting the track tonight for intervals… Yikes… Massage Wednesday Lunchtime! Howard – in sunny Scotland! http://alpha.mic.dundee.ac.uk/glynn.html 7/5/95 Forfar 15 miles "Great Angus Run"

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Funny you should ask. I just got back from the Dr. for the exact same reason. While he is not a sports medicine specialist, he is a 3 time ironman finisher and one time age group winner so I think his advice is based on knowledge of the sport. He suggested several things (Please remember I am not a Dr. and I am only passing along what he told me. Be sure to talk to your own Dr. …other disclaimers, etc.) Stretch using stretchs that target the band. Back off distances and especially back off hills. Running downhill is especially bad. Run on flat surfaces (flat side to side i.e. not on the side of the road where there is a grade). If you must do quality (intervals) work, run them straight, not on a track. Be sure to wear good motion control shoes to eliminate excessive pronation. Use Ice after workouts. Don’t use heat. Take a NSAID like asprin to help with inflamation. He put me on Daypro (oxaprozin). Consider working with a massage therapist. There was also a good article in the February Inside Triathlon with many of the same suggestions. Tim Andriesen Decatur, IL "If you can’t run with the big dogs, train harder"

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Hi Andrew: I can relate. However I am not sure I will be telling you anything you already don’t know. Stretch, ask for some ITB stretches from your PT. Ice as much as you can. Also I would have your feet checked to see if orthotics can help. Run on soft surfaces, and by no means run on the track. The turns will certainly cause more irritation. Run at the track when healthy. I get more injuries in the early season as well. Sometimes is caused by cold weather and jump in miles. Who knows really. Good luck Luis Vargas

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I posted this a while ago and received some non-flaming criticism.  In the two months since my posting and the action described therein, I have not suffered from my regular ITB irritations (normally 4-5 days every two weeks last year).  Thus, for me my actions contributed to a virtual elimination of the problem.  Anyone not sure should see a doctor for advice.  Net advice does not qualify from anybody! Brief Summary of Condition: My left foot pronates more than my right foot (verified by numerous and repeated measurements).  This has caused my left leg to be shorter than my right leg (again verified by measurement).  In turn my pelvis has tipped DOWN on the left to compensate.  I believe this pelvis tipping has stretched ITB band on right side and causes chronic irritations.  Leg length discrepancy and pelvic tilt verified by X-ray at chiropractor.   Discrepancy is about 1/4 to 1/3".   *MY* Solution for *ME*: –Take this for what is worth and as food for thought only.– I made a small lift out of heavy "sole" material approximately 1/4" thick.  I installed the lift under orthotic in left shoe.   This lift is cut so that it lies below the heel section of orthotic **AND NOT ON TOP OF THE ORTHOTIC**.  The lift does not interfere with the function of the orthotic – limiting my overpronation.   I stretch regularly and gently these days. I warm up for long periods and try not to run hard on turns or on pavement.   Have run and biked alot of miles with the lift and my condition continues to improve.  Plus, I feel smoother while running or cycling. YMMV… -Rolf — Rolf Arands, Ph.D.          |                             |

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<<In the year or so, I have been part of this group, I’ve been the flamer, <<the flamee, made some damned good friends and learned more about triathlon <<than in previous years combined. I really look forward to logging in every <<day and seeing what you all have to say. I really want to flame you bad right now, but because you just gave birth I’ll wait a few days. QRman

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Just wanted to say thanks for all of the kind wishes and nice thoughts from my fellow rst’rs. Baby Madison Laine Zagarino is home and leading us through a sleep deprivation study. The results are….I’m too beat to discuss the results. In the year or so, I have been part of this group, I’ve been the flamer, the flamee, made some damned good friends and learned more about triathlon than in previous years combined. I really look forward to logging in every day and seeing what you all have to say. This is the reason I keep competing. I could have done one triathlon for the challenge, but I’ve done over a hundred because of the people. <sappy, sentimental mode off (being a new father will do that to you) ZAG

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