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The re-air date for the 1999 Ironman Triathlon World Championship is on NBC, July 29 from 4:00 p.m. – 6:00 p.m.

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Does anyone have a copy of NBC’s broadcast of 99 IMH ? Or kow when they might run it again? I missed it and as a result, now I’m very sad. tom p

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There is one ironman at the end of jun in Bourg en Bresse

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There is one ironman at the end of jun in Bourg en Bresse

I’m not sure this event will be planned for the 2000 season as Nice (26th of June next year) is the 2000 LD world Championship. There won’t be 2 major long Distance events at the same period. Olivier Before you buy.

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Anybody knows if there is any Ironman Distance Triathlon in France on June ‘00???? Thanks for all

No, but there is the Embrunman Triathlon that’s done in August over there. Ironman distance, but utilizes some of the Alps that the TdF cyclists use from time to time. Very difficult course. Hope this helps.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMCAL, IMC Y2K IMC’99: 10:45:03          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Anybody knows if there is any Ironman Distance Triathlon in France on June ‘00???? Thanks for all

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Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry Calif cool, Joe !

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Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry Calif cool, Joe !

Thanks Joe, your plate is my new screen saver. Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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Nice car too. I like the tag also.

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I think it is very important to either drive or ride round a course before hand

Let’s suppose that the (approx) 600 participants of upcoming Vineman got out on the bike AND run course in the two days before the race to drive it beforehand. slow on the winding roads, blocking local traffic. real nice. This should not be a necessary thing for anyone racing. Ken

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Should race directors be responsible for marshalling and marking race courses so that athletes do not go off course? Register your vote at the Runner’s Web Voting Booth. Ken Parker Ken. Isn’t that a bit simplistic?  It’s like asking  "Should race directors be responsible for compiling accurate results?"  Of course they are. The question at hand is how much is enough and how much individual responsibility is involved. Mike"Should bikes have brakes?"Tennent "TriBop" http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

So we agree that they are responsible. What are their responsibilities when race official actions or inactions result in the mis-direction of an athlete costing the athlete $2,000 or more and valuable ITU points? Ken Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html

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Should race directors be responsible for marshalling and marking race courses so that athletes do not go off course? Register your vote at the Runner’s Web Voting Booth. Ken Parker Runner’s Web www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site.

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I do think courses should be well marked and marshalled, but athletes should also take responsibility for themselves. I think it is very important to either drive or ride round a course before hand, firstly so that they know where they are going and secondly so they know what to expect from a course. e.g. I did a race a few weeks a go and discovered a few things about the course while warming up on it . e.g. we hit what we thaught would be a 35mph descent when racing, but a few 100 yards into it discovered we had a very sudden sharp left turn, we had a good look at it and decided we would have to slow down considerably at this point. This could be a dangerous situation if you didn’t know what to expect. Also if its a hilly course and you don’t know there are several hard climbs ahead you could go out and burn yourself up early on the course and then have nothing left. Diane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Should race directors be responsible for marshalling and marking race courses so that athletes do not go off course?

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Should race directors be responsible for marshalling and marking race courses so that athletes do not go off course? Register your vote at the Runner’s Web Voting Booth. Ken Parker

Ken. Isn’t that a bit simplistic?  It’s like asking  "Should race directors be responsible for compiling accurate results?"  Of course they are. The question at hand is how much is enough and how much individual responsibility is involved. Mike"Should bikes have brakes?"Tennent "TriBop" http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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So we agree that they are responsible. What are their responsibilities when race official actions or inactions result in the mis-direction of an athlete costing the athlete $2,000 or more and valuable ITU points? Ken

Ken: Do you mean "responsibility" or "liability?"   It’s a slippery slope when you start getting into blame and liability for monetary losses. Does anyone really want law suits over lost points and prize money for course infractions? Each case is different. The examples posted here of folks being directed off-course by police are appalling. But the case at Clermont is far less compelling. Yes, it is the RD’s responsibility to properly mark and marshall a course. But there’s only so much that can be done. The athlete must also assume some responsibility for their actions. Mike Tennent "TriBop" http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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No way! I say don’t even provide maps, and if possible screw with the earth’s magnetic field as well. Let’s make this as difficult as possible. This evens the field for those of us who are limbically-challenged (short f’ing legs)! Actually, I did Vineman Int’l where the marshalls didn’t even know the turn offs for certain – created quite a problem when after the race discussions showed some of us cycled a longer course than others. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Should race directors be responsible for marshalling and marking race courses so that athletes do not go off course? Register your vote at the Runner’s Web Voting Booth. Ken Parker Runner’s Web www.runnersweb.com/running.html A running and triathlon resource site.

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Let’s suppose that the (approx) 600 participants of upcoming Vineman got out on the bike AND run course in the two days before the race to drive it beforehand. going slow on the winding roads, blocking local traffic. real nice.

O.K I probably asked for it by saying ride or drive the course. Better to do it on yer bike  - I’ve already ridden round the IM course I’m racing on in 6 weeks. Diane

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So, many people on r.s.t. think USAT worries about the wrong stuff. You think they don’t care about us.  We the people.  We the license buyers.  We the grass roots of the sport.

Why so mocking, Ray? Your point, to encourage USAT members to vote and share their thoughts is a good one, it is the reason I joined USAT. I would (also) invite every member to access the site and share their views. Thanking you for the heads up and thanking the AGC, for their service and a well done survey, I wish you Good Training, Good Racing Joe Foster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, they do.  They listen closely and respond promptly to Age Group Commission comments, demands, whines, resolutions, etc. So, you want to be heard at the board meetings.  You want Locke, Margiotta, and the gang to know you’re out there?  That’s why we have an Age Group commission. What about: Who should qualify for Nationals/Worlds? How important is the National Ranking System to you? How important is the All-American Award to you? Should all qualification slots for Team USA be awarded at the National Championships? What other issues would you like the AGC to address? The Age-Group Commission of USA Triathlon is conducting a survey of annual members to gather information on issues that are important for continuing development of services and programs for the membership. We appreciate your time and attention to this project. Please Click on: http://www.usatriathlon.org Then go to the sidebar and click on the Age Group Comm. You will find a survey and much opportunity to let us know what you want. We take this stuff very seriously.  We take it to the board.  We are the mechanism for you to have a voice. — Ray Plotecia USA Triathlon, Age Group Commission

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So, many people on r.s.t. think USAT worries about the wrong stuff. You think they don’t care about us.  We the people.  We the license buyers.  We the grass roots of the sport. Well, they do.  They listen closely and respond promptly to Age Group Commission comments, demands, whines, resolutions, etc. So, you want to be heard at the board meetings.  You want Locke, Margiotta, and the gang to know you’re out there?  That’s why we have an Age Group commission. What about: Who should qualify for Nationals/Worlds? How important is the National Ranking System to you? How important is the All-American Award to you? Should all qualification slots for Team USA be awarded at the National Championships? What other issues would you like the AGC to address? The Age-Group Commission of USA Triathlon is conducting a survey of annual members to gather information on issues that are important for continuing development of services and programs for the membership. We appreciate your time and attention to this project. Please Click on: http://www.usatriathlon.org Then go to the sidebar and click on the Age Group Comm. You will find a survey and much opportunity to let us know what you want. We take this stuff very seriously.  We take it to the board.  We are the mechanism for you to have a voice. — Ray Plotecia USA Triathlon, Age Group Commission

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: My favorite?  Well the most unusual… : I saw an armadillo.  The only thing strange about that was that I was : riding in Georgia.  We call them "possum on the half-shell".  This guy was : a LONG way from home… Isn’t that the normal state for an armadillo? I have never seen one not in the flat mode. — Tom Roehr       "The Javanator"

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I was riding my bike on a long straight stretch of road that parallels a set of railroad tracks… when I hear a rustling noise in some bushes.   I apparently frightened a hare, that took off running down the r.r. tracks. I was heading into a stiff headwind at 19 mi/hr, but that darn hare must have been going over 20 miles/hr. Who says the tortoise beats the hare anyways? The hare did have a better aero advantage. I wonder how fast he could have gone with aerobars, and a disc wheel? Janet

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While out for a ride on the country roads of North Carolina, I came across the darndest irony I’ll probably ever see.  Flattened on the road not two feet from each other was a turtle AND a rabbit!!  The best that I can figure is that when it comes to crossing the road, the chicken is the favorite. Cameron

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I was riding my bike on a long straight stretch of road that parallels a set of railroad tracks… when I hear a rustling noise in some bushes. I apparently frightened a hare, that took off running down the r.r. tracks. I was heading into a stiff headwind at 19 mi/hr, but that darn hare must have been going over 20 miles/hr. Who says the tortoise beats the hare anyways? The hare did have a better aero advantage. I wonder how fast he could have gone with aerobars, and a disc wheel? Janet

…and if he had shaved all his hair!  :) Rod

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While out for a ride on the country roads of North Carolina, I came across the darndest irony I’ll probably ever see.  Flattened on the road not two feet from each other was a turtle AND a rabbit!!  The best that I can figure is that when it comes to crossing the road, the chicken is the favorite.

But why? Is the chicken’s superior transit ability based on wanting to get to the other side more? David PS Great story, Cameron. I would have been mumbling to myself for days.

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My two three favorite pieces of road kill noticed while out riding are: A dead bloated sheep with it’s legs tied together (???) A domestic type chicken (white) Hedgehogs (while touring in New Zealand, apparently they were introduced. Stuart J. P.S. Speaking of roadkill the last new scientist has a breakdown of UK pedestrian deaths in ‘95 and last on the list after cars, trucks, buses and motorcycles was bicycles. From the graph it appears that 3 or 4 pedestrians were killed by bikes in the uK last year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anybody see all the squashed toads/frogs while running the dams at this year’s Boulder Peak Triathlon? They looked like powerbars with legs…

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: A dead bloated sheep with it’s legs tied together (???) I guess they didn’t want it running away?  ;-) Without a doubt my favourite piece of roadkill was seen on a century ride this summer.  I kid you not, right there on the side of the road, smashed down the middle, in the middle of rural Maryland was… …an allegator.  About 3ft long and flat as a pancake in the middle.  Go figure… — Jason Mayfield     Arlington, VA http://dufus.westga.edu/~zooropa Sick & Twisted Site of the Day: http://dufus.westga.edu/~zooropa/sick.html "Do or do not, there is no ‘try’"  - Yoda     *9* Days Until Ironman Canada

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Anybody see all the squashed toads/frogs while running the dams at this year’s Boulder Peak Triathlon? They looked like powerbars with legs…

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The fact that it;s legs were tied together really worried me, maybe there were New Zealanders nearby! Stuart J. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : A dead bloated sheep with it’s legs tied together (???) I guess they didn’t want it running away?  ;-) Without a doubt my favourite piece of roadkill was seen on a century ride this summer.  I kid you not, right there on the side of the road, smashed down the middle, in the middle of rural Maryland was… …an allegator.  About 3ft long and flat as a pancake in the middle.  Go figure… — Jason Mayfield     Arlington, VA http://dufus.westga.edu/~zooropa Sick & Twisted Site of the Day: http://dufus.westga.edu/~zooropa/sick.html "Do or do not, there is no ‘try’"  - Yoda     *9* Days Until Ironman Canada

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My favorite?  Well the most unusual… I saw an armadillo.  The only thing strange about that was that I was riding in Georgia.  We call them "possum on the half-shell".  This guy was a LONG way from home…

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My favorite?  Well the most unusual… I saw an armadillo.  The only thing strange about that was that I was riding in Georgia.  We call them "possum on the half-shell".  This guy was a LONG way from home…

God, I wish….. armadillos are now quite common in Ga and Florida. They dig up our lawn all the time. Why did the chicken cross the road? To show an armadillo it could be done. Interesting roadkill, huh?  Alligator? Seen that. Wild Pig? Seen that. How about fiddler crabs? Hit one of those and you’ll puncture for sure. Ahh, the sunny south….. WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ   http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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Good luck, but remember, the Real Thing only happens out there, in dirty canals, on melting roads, in the sun…

Peter have you been training recently ? I suspect not. Maybe a health club is a good idea after all. Peter Kassenaar.

Wouter

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they ARE fun… The club I was at in Chicago has one every Feb to get people going for the spring. They even have a couple decent prizes, which is outstanding considering its a very small field!   It really helped motivate workouts, and a few people worked together on technique, training and racing tips from more experienced people. Really helps you meet people you may want to train with outdoors later in the season. If you are in the western suburbs of Chicago, check out the Exercise Playce in the Oakbrook Tower. Membership is a little expensive, but the facilities are super. Dan

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Hey, this is an entire form of triathlon competition.  Haven’t your seen the ads for various YMCA indoor triathlons?  Sounds motivating.  Anyone do one of these?  Was it fun? Byron

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Hey, this is an entire form of triathlon competition.  Haven’t your seen the ads for various YMCA indoor triathlons?  Sounds motivating.  Anyone do one of these?  Was it fun?

Yes, I’ve done a number of Y sponsored triathlons. They are pretty fun, exclusively short sprint courses (in my experience). All I have done have been .25m swim indoor pool / 8-16m bike / 2-3.1m run. They differ from a ‘real’ triathlon in that they are much smaller in scope, attract a more local entrant base & are usually free (all the ones I have done were anyway).

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After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training until April.  Any suggestions? Hey, I thought I had that plan copyrighted!

Sorry Mike, But in the years 1991-1993 we had the official Dutch Indoor Triathlon championships. This race included: – 10 laps swim (250 m.) in a special built pool – 10 k. bike on a trainer – 2.5 k. run on a treadmill. I don’t know why this event wasn’t organized in 1994-now. Too bad, because it always was fun to watch the athletes ‘drop dead’ when they came off the treadmill (some of them actually showed a form of motion sickness *after* the run). The last male winner was the Dutchman Ron van de Pol with a total time of 22.02 min. (2.50-11.27-8.05) Personally I do not know athletes who practice their run-bike transitions only indoors. But IMHO this can be lacked to the ‘fear’ of dutch triathletes to go to a health club or fitness centre. It is not yet commonly accepted. Good luck, but remember, the Real Thing only happens out there, in dirty canals, on melting roads, in the sun… Peter Kassenaar. Peter Kassenaar (The Netherlands)

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After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.

All this rambling on media exposure, finally we have prove in our own discussion group. Somebody wants to start after all that sweat on the television! Cheer him up, don’t tell him what is to train. Yes, Yes, yes, go on. Continue in your helth club, do your laps in the whirl pool, run your repaets on the stairclimber. Yes, yes yes, we organize an indoor tri again. Relax in the sauna, afterwards, but don’t go out of that door, don’t get any fresh air, And maybe it is better to watch a few more before you decide to participate in a real one. Wouter

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Would be of great benefit, however the bike to run transition is infinitely more difficult than the swim to bike for most people.  Bike-Run workouts are often known as "bricks"  (don’t ask why, you’ll just stir up more controversy).  Many even do bike-run repeats.  No reason why they can’t be done on a lifecycle and a treadmill, either. Marty – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training until April.  Any suggestions?

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After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training until April.  Any suggestions?

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After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training until April.  Any suggestions?

Hey, I thought I had that plan copyrighted! Actually, that’s sort of what I’m doing at our club, tho not every workout. <g I still run outside, but my every other day club workout involves a hard workout on the life cycle – in hill climbing mode, then 1/2 mile or a mile of easy/hard intervals on the indoor track, followed by the swim. I’ll probably  reverse that on occasion and do the swim first, but I found that if I delay, all the machines are full. Any suggestions about the value of that sort of workout would be welcomed here, too. When it warms up, I’ll shift to outside biking and (I guess) just swim inside. Haven’t got that far yet. Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar 200+ listings. Advertise your race. FTP Race Apps, FAQ http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training until April.  Any suggestions?

Sounds good.  Also spend some time on the erg.  You want to be using the erg for endurance so aim for 20-30 minute sessions. Cheers, dt.  http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/thomsond/index.html (home)  The NZ Triathlon Pages  http://www.actrix.gen.nz/users/thomsond/nztri.html

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 After watching several tri’s on ESPN this past year, I’ve decided that I am  going to give it a go this year.  My question is this—- I’ve heard so many  triathletes speak of the difficulty of transition, namely legs that just don’t  want to ride or run or whatever.  Would it be of any benefit for myself to  swim a thousand or so meters, then hop onto a lifecycle, and then onto a  treadmill?  With this lousy weather it doesn’t look like I’ll be outside training  until April.  Any suggestions?

Yes.  Its a great way to get used to the lead legs.  Besides, if you’re stuck inside anyway, what alternative do you have.? You don’t really have to triple, especially in the winter, but a swim/bike or bike/run day once a week will get you used to the feeling. |       Ray Plotecia            | |       Image Control           |

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From the Bradley Method handbook (a birthing handbook) :   A lot of things in life are painful, and yet, nobody uses anesthetics for them.  Ever see the face on a marathon runner, or a triathlete? I love it.  I feel so experienced since I’ve run a marathon and I am a triathlete.  If only labor only lasted as long as an Olympic-distance Tri!!! TriGal (T minus 10 weeks)

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My wife was seven months pregnant with our first child when we went to Kona for me to run IM ‘94.  After I had finished, I joked that she wasn’t allowed to take longer to have the baby than I had to finish the Ironman (10:49).  Two and a half months later, she went through 52 hours of labor in order to deliver our son, Hayes. I was there for every minute of the ordeal, and when it was over, I felt really bad for ever having said such a thing, even in jest.  Not to belittle the feat of doing an Ironman, but it seems trivial to me compared to childbirth.  Even though my training time has been shot to hell by becoming a parent, my attitude towards the sport and life in general has been changed forever by the whole experience.  I will stand permanently in awe of my wife and any other being that can do that. Timothy — Timothy Gotsick

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I haven’t had any ordeal worthy of mention but I’d like to tell Trigal to take heart if you have any sprinting genes. My second baby took 52 minutes, counting from the very first little hint of an ache.  It still wasn’t cake,though.I had the impression that 52 hours were simply condensed in that sub-one hour sprint event  If this were the alt.baby.making newsgroup I would give some hysterical details of my almost-didn’t-make-it-on-time ordeal. Ruth Kazez

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If this were the alt.baby.making newsgroup I would give some hysterical details of my almost-didn’t-make-it-on-time ordeal. Ruth Kazez

Ruth,   You obviously haven’t read the header recently!  This is a multi talented group you are posting too. If you raised a sweat when giving birth then it counts as a sport. Possibly elligible for "Olympic" status! ( Ballroom dancing and curling are in!) Since we are multi-sport athletes, it is appropriate to give us the details of the "almost-didn’t-make-the-birthing" cutoff in T3. We all like a good laugh. TriDork this could be an exclusive race report!

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        I never did an IM but have two daughters. Although I don’t live with my first wife anymore, I think the hardest part isn’t chilbirth but raising a human being . That’s why you’ve changed . I respect the mother that gives life to a child and the father who guide a child to a safe pathway in life . Congratulations for your finish time !! Julio Neves, MD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -My wife was seven months pregnant with our first child when we went to Kona for me to run IM ‘94.  After I had finished, I joked that she wasn’t allowed to take longer to have the baby than I had to finish the Ironman (10:49).  Two and a half months later, she went through 52 hours of labor in order to deliver our son, Hayes. I was there for every minute of the ordeal, and when it was over, I felt really bad for ever having said such a thing, even in jest.  Not to belittle the feat of doing an Ironman, but it seems trivial to me compared to childbirth.  Even though my training time has been shot to hell by becoming a parent, my attitude towards the sport and life in general has been changed forever by the whole experience.  I will stand permanently in awe of my wife and any other being that can do that. Timothy — Timothy Gotsick

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From the Bradley Method handbook (a birthing handbook) :   A lot of things in life are painful, and yet, nobody uses anesthetics for them.  Ever see the face on a marathon runner, or a triathlete? I love it.  I feel so experienced since I’ve run a marathon and I am a triathlete.  If only labor only lasted as long as an Olympic-distance Tri!!! TriGal (T minus 10 weeks)

I finally became a Dad on Monday 8th, three weeks early but *what* an experience! Now all this is in hindsight with the warm glow that comes with holding the 2kg scrap that is my son. All I suffered was 4hours sleep in 48 hrs and having to rush around town buying maternity bras, pads, nappies etc. It was a little harder for Alison though. Engage bullshit mode About as far as endurance event experience is useful I think is the knowledge that to some extent you can sideline the pain by concentrating on something else, this is part of the reason for doing the breathing/panting exercises. Trying to make your breathing regular and deep is something we’ve probably all done, expecially when you hit that hill and your legs start to burn. Disengage Don’t take the analogy too far though – take the drugs! Diamorphine looks great. The clenched teeth screams immediately after her waters broke were distressing for me as well, but 10 minutes later once the morphine took effect they were reduced to gentle ‘ouch’s. As Alison put it, it still hurt, but she didn’t care. One thing too look forward to afterwards is an increased pain threshold – you’ll get faster! A lot of female endurance athletes seem to come back even stronger after pregnancy. Its all well worth it though – we’ve all seen births in TV documentaries, but actually being there is just amazing. Good luck TriGal Joel

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 The 21st annual Los Alamos (NM) triathlon went off without a hitch last  Saturday.  

snip… Am I missing something?  Did I skip some info in this long post?  Am I dyslexic? "21st Annual" puts your first tri in 1974.  Is this true.  Do you pre date Tug’s and everything else? Or has Los Alamos finally figured out this relativity-time dilation thing? |       Ray Plotecia            | |       Image Control           |

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 The 21st annual Los Alamos (NM) triathlon went off without a hitch last  Saturday.   snip… Am I missing something?  Did I skip some info in this long post?  Am I dyslexic? "21st Annual" puts your first tri in 1974.  Is this true.  Do you pre

date Tug’s and everything else? Or has Los Alamos finally figured out this relativity-time dilation thing?

Yes , it is true.  Los Alamos celebrated their biggest and best triathlon to date! And yes it has been run for the last 21 years and we have several old timers with the race T-shirts to prove it!  Local resident’s Bill Hudson and Rod Thurston are just about the only two left who were there at the beginning.  For the first 19 years the triathlon or "triathalon" as it was mispelled one year was run as three individual time trials where you had to wait for the last guy to finish before they started the next portion.  I had the "pleasure" of doing several of these before the "old" tradition finally gave way to the way triathlon is run today.  As they say old habits die hard.  Two years ago we had around 75 people do the race, last year just over one hundred.  This year we had 260 registrants!  I’m happy to say this is one race that is growing in size and popularity.  Now if only we could get somebody to give Brug some competition.  It really would be a perfect world. If anyone out there would like further details on the history of this race, please email me or Pat. Mike Randow

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The 21st annual Los Alamos (NM) triathlon went off without a hitch last Saturday.  It did have a different format (bike, swim, run) that I was very skeptical about, but turned out to work extremely well.  Hey SZAG, has the ITU ever thought about putting the bike first so everyone has a fair shot at drafting? Yes, the bike was first, and drafting which was supposed to be illegal was left to the honor system (i.e. no race marshalls).  Also, the number of competitors was up to 260.  This was 100 more than the previous high and is a very large race for NM.  The race was broken into 3 waves (separated 5 minutes apart) and the elites, male relays and males 34 and under went in the first wave.  I had registered elite. Approximately 70 of us lined up for the bike start and there was a lot of snickering when they announced no drafting.  The only flat part of the 20 km bike course was the transition area and the turnaround, which suited me, and the minimum elevation on the course was 7000 ft.  The gun sounded and the pack started sprinting (this was not like bike racing where the peleton warms up).  I held back knowing within the mile we’d start climbing.  I fell to ~ 20th place within the first 0.5 mile.  As soon as we started climbing, I started slowly accelerating and by the 1.0 mile mark was in the lead.  At the mile mark we started a fairly long mile climb with ~ 800 ft of elevation gain.  This is where I made my move to really break away.  At the top, I’m estimating at least a 30 second lead. Next a few miles of rollers, then a canyon descent, followed by a canyon ascent then 1 mile of flats on the mesa top to the turnaround.  At the turnaround I was surprised I couldn’t see anyone behind me.  The race official later told me I had about 1 minute lead at the turnaround.  The course was out and back so I just kept pressing hard until the transition area. My Kilo with the Hed CX wheels performed flawlessly.  I was able to outclimb the peloton and keep my lead with high 45+ mph descents.  This is definitely the best and fastest bike/wheel combination I’ve every ridden (including softride from last year).  So far I’ve PRed every course. I had a good transition and headed for the pool.  We did a "snake" swim (down one lane, change lanes and up the next) for 425m (8×50m + 25m width of the pool).  Swimming after biking hard is a very different experience. My arms felt like lead and I had a hard time keeping a good turnover.  I had done 150m before second place entered the water and by the time I was done I had a 200m lead. Last was a fairly flat 5 km run.  It was nice to be wet at the start of the run because it kept me fairly cool.  Usually, I crater during the run, but not today, I was able to keep up a good pace.  I was fortunate to win overall by almost 4 minutes in a time of :57.01.  My time broke the course record by over two minutes. Some side notes:  Governor Gary Johnson handily won his age-group, LANL lab director, Sig Hecker participated, Rod Thurston did his 21st consecutitve Los Alamos Triathlon and wore the original t-shirt from the 70’s (this is a world record I believe), fellow RSTer Mike Randow had a great race.  We got a long sleeve t-shirt, a very good buffet style lunch, free pool pass and a great race all for $25!!! Good luck to everyone at Mrs T’s Pat    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory The 21st annual Los Alamos (NM) triathlon went off without a hitch last Saturday.  It did have a different format (bike, swim, run) that I was very skeptical about, but turned out to work extremely well.  Hey SZAG, has the ITU ever thought about putting the bike first so everyone has a fair shot at drafting? Yes, the bike was first, and drafting which was supposed to be illegal was left to the honor system (i.e. no race marshalls).  Also, the number of competitors was up to 260.  This was 100 more than the previous high and is a very large race for NM.  The race was broken into 3 waves (separated 5 minutes apart) and the elites, male relays and males 34 and under went in the first wave.  I had registered elite. Approximately 70 of us lined up for the bike start and there was a lot of snickering when they announced no drafting.  The only flat part of the 20 km bike course was the transition area and the turnaround, which suited me, and the minimum elevation on the course was 7000 ft.  The gun sounded and the pack started sprinting (this was not like bike racing where the peleton warms up).  I held back knowing within the mile we’d start climbing.  I fell to ~ 20th place within the first 0.5 mile.  As soon as we started climbing, I started slowly accelerating and by the 1.0 mile mark was in the lead.  At the mile mark we started a fairly long mile climb with ~ 800 ft of elevation gain.  This is where I made my move to really break away.  At the top, I’m estimating at least a 30 second lead. Next a few miles of rollers, then a canyon descent, followed by a canyon ascent then 1 mile of flats on the mesa top to the turnaround.  At the turnaround I was surprised I couldn’t see anyone behind me.  The race official later told me I had about 1 minute lead at the turnaround.  The course was out and back so I just kept pressing hard until the transition area. My Kilo with the Hed CX wheels performed flawlessly.  I was able to outclimb the peloton and keep my lead with high 45+ mph descents.  This is definitely the best and fastest bike/wheel combination I’ve every ridden (including softride from last year).  So far I’ve PRed every course. I had a good transition and headed for the pool.  We did a "snake" swim (down one lane, change lanes and up the next) for 425m (8×50m + 25m width of the pool).  Swimming after biking hard is a very different experience. My arms felt like lead and I had a hard time keeping a good turnover.  I had done 150m before second place entered the water and by the time I was done I had a 200m lead. Last was a fairly flat 5 km run.  It was nice to be wet at the start of the run because it kept me fairly cool.  Usually, I crater during the run, but not today, I was able to keep up a good pace.  I was fortunate to win overall by almost 4 minutes in a time of :57.01.  My time broke the course record by over two minutes. Some side notes:  Governor Gary Johnson handily won his age-group, LANL lab director, Sig Hecker participated, Rod Thurston did his 21st consecutitve Los Alamos Triathlon and wore the original t-shirt from the 70’s (this is a world record I believe), fellow RSTer Mike Randow had a great race.  We got a long sleeve t-shirt, a very good buffet style lunch, free pool pass and a great race all for $25!!! Good luck to everyone at Mrs T’s Pat    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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I hate when people call running boring.  I get that comment more then anything Thanks for the time, Eric —       —    O   The race is not always              Eric J. Lorenzo

Hey Eric, I completely agree…I’ve run for over 20 years (starting in AAU at age 12) and I’ve heard the "running is boring" commment more times than I care to remember…I find that most people who say that to me haven’t stuck out their choice of workout for very long (a couple of months maybe)…they can’t believe I would prefer to run over other activities… Don’t get me wrong I do other things (basketball, softball, golf, etc.) but I prefer running for maximum results and body satisfaction… Well, that’s all I had, Jean

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Eric J. Lorenzo writes: I hate when people call running boring.  I get that comment more then anything from people who either 1) lift or 2) swim.  Look who’s talking.  First of all, running(if you run outside), the scenery is different every day, and you’re outside enjoying good ‘ol mother nature and her fresh air.

The only part of running that I have found boring is doing solo runs of 15+ miles.  Talk about mind-numbing!  I’d _almost_ rather swim or lift.

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The only part of running that I have found boring is doing solo runs of 15+ miles.  Talk about mind-numbing!  I’d _almost_ rather swim or

lift.

Ahh!! But that’s the point!  I can see you have not been biten by the ultra-bug.  Good for you! I, unfortunately, delight in taking off with my water bottles strapped to my back for 7 or 8 hours at a stretch and covering 35-50 miles.  By the time I get home, there’s nothing left in my head but stale air.  Not that there’s anything else there to start with. — Suzanne Roat                            Phone:  (510) 242-5313 Voice Chevron Research and Technology Company         (510) 242-4647 FAX Richmond, CA  94802-0627

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Looks like I have tendonitis, so I haven’t been running for 2 months now.  :-( Anyway, other than laying off it, and icing the ankle, does anyone else know what I can do to heal faster?

 just a little something, if I understand it you mean with "tendonitis" "tendinit", which is an inflamation in a tendon. In that case you should rest and make sure it’s *warm*, not cold…  your local doctor can give you shots of heparin, give you some inflamation inhibiting medicine or put you in a tournique…  Department of Physics, University of Stockholm — Sweden (Northern Europe)

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I, unfortunately, delight in taking off with my water bottles strapped to my back for 7 or 8 hours at a stretch and covering 35-50 miles.  By the time I get home, there’s nothing left in my head but stale air.  Not that there’s anything else there to start with. — Suzanne Roat                                Phone:  (510) 242-5313 Voice Chevron Research and Technology Company             (510) 242-4647 FAX Richmond, CA  94802-0627

I know this lady and will definitely attest to the condition of her head.  Of course, she’s not chopped liver in trail ultras, as a few age group trophies and a second woman at the World’s Toughest Triathlon will attest.   Personally, I find no trouble at all in doing long solo runs in training, and of course, in an ultra, you often find yourself running alone for long stretches.  (But then you do have aid station people to talk to from time to time.)  I have myself run the Western States 100 without crew and without pacer, so that I was running for about 24 hours pretty much by myself.  I didn’t have any trouble staying away from boredom, though, although  running alone through a forest in the early hours of the morning  wi th only a flashlight for company can get a little wierd – the shadows keep jumping around and you can imagine all kinds of things…… Martin

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Running boring??  Not!! I started my athletic career at the age of 1 with swimming.  I swam year round competitively from age 4 to 15 and 16 to 18.  I gave it up for running when I went to college because I was bored to tears swimming back and forth. I’ve yet to get bored with running.  Even if I run the same routes everyday for several months, the weather is always different, the people are always different, etc., etc. Running is NOT boring.  But then I’m preaching to the choir aren’t I? Just my personal experience. — Suzanne Roat                            Phone:  (510) 242-5313 Voice Chevron Research and Technology Company         (510) 242-4647 FAX Richmond, CA  94802-0627

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: I hate when people call running boring.  I get that comment more then anything : from people who either 1) lift or 2) swim.  Look who’s talking.  First of all, : running(if you run outside), the scenery is different every day, and you’re : outside enjoying good ‘ol mother nature and her fresh air. : : Lifting involves spending about an hour and a 1/2 sitting in an indoor gym : lifting metal breathing stale air. Some lifters I know have spent 5 hours in : the gym!  Swimmers swim god knows how many laps back and forth to workout. : : I’m not bashing lifting or swimming in either way as they are excellent : workouts in them selves.  I just needed to vent the urge to slap people when : they have the notion to call running boring! :^) : : Thanks for the time, : Eric : : — :        –    O   The race is not always              Eric J. Lorenzo

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I hate when people call running boring.  I get that comment more then anything from people who either 1) lift or 2) swim.  Look who’s talking.  First of all, running(if you run outside), the scenery is different every day, and you’re outside enjoying good ‘ol mother nature and her fresh air. Lifting involves spending about an hour and a 1/2 sitting in an indoor gym lifting metal breathing stale air. Some lifters I know have spent 5 hours in the gym!  Swimmers swim god knows how many laps back and forth to workout. I’m not bashing lifting or swimming in either way as they are excellent workouts in them selves.  I just needed to vent the urge to slap people when they have the notion to call running boring! :^) Thanks for the time, Eric —        –    O   The race is not always              Eric J. Lorenzo

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