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Hi All, does anybody know of a masters swim club close to Hoboken, New Jersey. I’m training for my first triathlon and I’m looking for a convenient place to do my swim training. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! -Leo Geronimo

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Hi All, does anybody know of a masters swim club close to Hoboken, New Jersey. I’m training for my first triathlon and I’m looking for a convenient place to do my swim training. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! -Leo Geronimo

Stevens Institute of Technology http://www.SwimmersGuide.com/query/Detail.cfm?PoolID=9281 in Hoboken has a Masters club.   For other New Jersey Masters clubs, see the Garden State Masters Web site’s team list http://www.gsmswim.org/Membership/teamlist.htm — Best regards, Bill Haverland                         Swimmers Guide                  http://www.SwimmersGuide.com

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

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Whoops – think I sent my reply to your e-mail Liz (silly me).   To reiterate SPORTS (is there anything else – okay comics).   Sometimes I try to be a well rounded person and read the front page but then I realize how depressing it and go back to the box scores…..MAC

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

I always read the front page and editorials first.  I guess I skim over the comics, and I never read the sports. :: Dan

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Read all of the news before work. Need my daily fix. Skim letters to editor. Read one cartoon. Usually skip business, classifieds. Skip sport, unless I can find something with which to tease Kenny. Meryl

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I read the headlies and pick ut the topics of interest .Nver read sports stocks or entertainment.

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Right now I am only reading the real estate section because we are looking for a townhouse, otherwise I don’t even get a newspaper.

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Comics, then sports. Boyd

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Anything that mentions art, or pornography instanly draws my eye. I’m not particularly proud of this, but it is true. Andy My skin is sallow. I need sun.

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

The most interesting sections of the news paper to me is the local news. I skim over the front page and NEVER read the sports section. Lucia    http://www.newsfeeds.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Ulimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–

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I read everything:)))))))

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?

Home & family, Politics, the first section, business, classifieds  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Local & State happenings Which sections do you never read?

Sports, Religion Jess "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear." -Ambrose Redmoon

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

Interesting sections? 1st: comics. Hey, I’d rather start out with a laugh rather than read about who’s shooting, bombing etc who. 2nd: Horoscope. Again, start off on a good note and a laugh. 3rd: Local business ads. Also a source of some good laughter 4th: Arts and Entertainment. Gawd, we live in the boonies. Cheryl & I miss concerts, recitals, opera, the ballet. Ted’s going to grow up and not have experienced too darn much of these. (((( 5th: Want ads, job listings. Need I say more? 6th: Local news and the Op. Ed. page. Also sometimes good for a laugh. 7th: Skim over National & International news. If I want to find out more, I go to the Internet. 9th: Business and Stock Market listings. Want to find out how much more lower the Canadian dollar can go. 10th: Sports, only when they’re regarding either Soccer, Judo, or Bike Racing. Any kind of bike racing. Road, Track, Triathalon, Mountain biking, or the Gonzo’s in Down Hill Slalom. Football, never. Hockey, Baseball and Basketball, to check on either the Maple Leafs, Jays or the Raptors. With the Maple Leafs this can, sadly, also involve laughter. The Air Canada Centre’s OK, but there was someting about the atmosphere back at the Gardens. *Some* seats with blind spots. Seats that could be *quite * uncomfortable. Going off on a trek to visit either the Washroom, or to get a snack. This was part of the whole Gardens aura. Best experienced when the Montreal Hab’s were in town. Alan B. If you want my real email, remove all the *’s.

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you? Front page and local news Which sections do you skim over lightly? Obits, editorials, Ann Landers, sports  Which sections do you never read? Classifieds, ads smiles, Elise – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take care, Liz

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

I read the political sections, the cultural sections, my vaourite columnists, take a look at the sports pages and I never read the economic pages. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Anything that mentions art, or pornography instanly draws my eye. I’m not particularly proud of this, but it is true. Andy

Of course you’re a bit embarrassed about the art thingie but I wouldn’t worry about the porn ) Philip (art historian) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My skin is sallow. I need sun. When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read?

Classified, pickup trucks, garage sales, chuck the rest, – Kinder

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I have been a newspaper-phile since I was about 10 years old (and began producing my own, "The Family News", at that age!). I started on the old New York Herald Tribune that my dad would bring home on the commuter train from NYC in those days. (We lived in suburban Connecticut.) I still read just about the entire newspaper every day: Providence Journal 7 days a week, plus New York Times on Sundays. Love the Op-Ed and editorial pages, local and national and international news, "lifestyle" stuff, sports, obits, humor, reviews, whatever. I *don’t* read the stock market gibberish. I gotta admit: I start with the comics and Ann Landers!  LOL    So highbrow, ya know.  :-D xo Anne

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I never read the sports, I like the Living section.

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: :When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to :you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you :never read? I only get the Sunday paper….so the first thing I read and look through are all the circulars Being it is gardening season, I look at the Home Depot, Lowe`s, Frank`s Nursery flyers to see what plants they have on I might read the main section and the entertainment section. I never read the comics and rarely read the sports section. Jackie ~*~Life was so much easier when your clothes didn’t match and boys had cooties~*~

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read?

The family and home improvement pages are first, followed by local news, then national and world news, one cartoon… I never read sports, auto stuff, marketplace

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When you read the newspaper, what sections are the most interesting to you?  Which sections do you skim over lightly? Which sections do you never read? Take care, Liz

obits for the ages of the people..I don’t know why…and for apt hunting..a very east cost thing I had to do growing up. I skim the sports, I scour the living, and I read the classifieds. I read the first paragraph and last paragraph of most news stories..I avoid the stocks Cat

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the obits first.(especially now being back to work) the front page/inside page editorial page rental section vacation homes etc. that is it. — …

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Andy, I here you!  Same thing happened to me in a race here in NZ last year. The skinny fast boys were milling around the run turn (2 lap) having finished, making loud smart arsed comments about us Clydesdales.  Said Clyde dropped 2 of them with a shoulder barge Jonah Lomu would have been proud, said scuse me, and ran on.  Sod em, if they are in the way, get em out – would they be any different?

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A little rant… So there I am at the Bournemouth Tri on Sunday, coming in off the bike ride. Now I am pretty slow, and I started in a later wave, so most of the elite and top age-group athletes have already finished their entire race. So what are a dozen or more of them doing? They’re milling around in a group INSIDE the transition area, having a chat and a laugh and a drink, trundling their bikes and kitbags around and getting seriously in the way of the many people who are still trying to race. Well ex-CUSE ME. Call me old-fashioned, but if you want to have a social club meeting go find a pub. If I’d got in the way of any of these people while they were racing they would have been outraged, yet they don’t seem to consider that lesser mortals deserve the same courtesy. On the way out of the run exit I collided with a bystander who’d just decided to do her bystanding in the middle of the fenced-off running route, but I didn’t mind that too much – she wasn’t a triathlete and didn’t understand the setup. No such excuse for the idiots inside transition, who knew exactly where they were and what was going on. If any of you are reading this now, you know who you are. Hang your heads in shame. And next time, get out of my way or I’ll ride you down. See what THAT does for your world championship prospects… — Andy Key

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A little rant…

I sense a ripple in the Force not felt since I was last in the presence of Schwing. This is good.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A little rant… So there I am at the Bournemouth Tri on Sunday, coming in off the bike ride. Now I am pretty slow, and I started in a later wave, so most of the elite and top age-group athletes have already finished their entire race. So what are a dozen or more of them doing? They’re milling around in a group INSIDE the transition area, having a chat and a laugh and a drink, trundling their bikes and kitbags around and getting seriously in the way of the many people who are still trying to race. Well ex-CUSE ME. Call me old-fashioned, but if you want to have a social club meeting go find a pub. If I’d got in the way of any of these people while they were racing they would have been outraged, yet they don’t seem to consider that lesser mortals deserve the same courtesy. On the way out of the run exit I collided with a bystander who’d just decided to do her bystanding in the middle of the fenced-off running route, but I didn’t mind that too much – she wasn’t a triathlete and didn’t understand the setup. No such excuse for the idiots inside transition, who knew exactly where they were and what was going on. If any of you are reading this now, you know who you are. Hang your heads in shame. And next time, get out of my way or I’ll ride you down. See what THAT does for your world championship prospects…

This is common and I happen to agree with you. Even though people are retrieving their bikes from the transition area after their race, the race is still going on for others. Even though the faster athletes should recognize this and stay out of the way, the organizers should make an effort to keep the lanes clear for the slower people to get though. I’ve seen competition where the organizers were vigilant about this and everything turned out well. What I would do is write a nicely worded letter to the organizers stating that you are "concerned" with this situation and that they should do something more about it. Hopefully you will get a favorable response from them.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMC’99: 10:45:03          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Yea, Colorado sucks. Don’t come here. There’s no good biking roads, you can’t get altitude, it’s always snowy all the time, the sun never comes out and there’s nobody to train with and there no scenery. At least the really smart triathletes don’t train or live here…like the entire DeBoom family, Dave Scott, Wes Hobson, Cam Widoff, Siri Lindley, Ryan Bolton, Susan Bartholomew etc. Any they would NEVER build a Olympic training triathlon center here. I mean where would they put it…Colorado Springs or something! And who would coach here. I don’t know of any REAL coaches…It’s not like you could get Joe Friel, Libby Burrell, Michelle Blessing, Ray Browning or even a swim coach like Jane Scott to come to Colorado. Definitely don’t come here if you’re interested in Duathlons! Andy Bruckner or Eric Schwartz wouldn’t live here. Not to mention what would you read! Besides, Inside Tri and Colorado Triathlete, Trailrunner magazine aren’t REALLY published here. Yea, glad I’m not a triathlete that lives in Colorado -Andrew Boulder, CO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can tell you a best place NOT to live – Colorado. Not that many races, short season. Weather prevents good bike training. Too many other things to do. Sure it is mentioned about the pros here, but many of them are only here for the summer training. But the biggest thing is that Colorado has SOOO much else to do, why would anyone want to just ride and run on the roads. When I used to live in New Orleans, we had a LOT more races and a lot longer season. Plus the only thing to do was road ride and run. You could focus much more easily on triathlons. Since moving to Colorado in 92 I have drifted away from tris. First – the soonest race of the year is in June and the last in Sept., a 4 month season. And, let me say this, this first race (with open water swim) is in two weeks, and yesterday it SNOWED 4-5 inches here. As for distractions, well triathlon training pretty much keeps you one dimensional. Here we have hiking, mtn biking, trail running, climbing, and tons of other stuff to do. Now maybe some can focus on these daily workouts on the roads but why miss all that is offered for something so myopic as just triathlons. So don’t move here unless you want to brach out into other endeavors, else you’d be just as well (better) to move to the midwest, which seems to have a much greater abundance of events, and no distractions.

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Mid-Atlantic region (like DC/Baltimore metro area)…lots of jobs; tons of multisport athletes and events the downsides are: no altitude and the traffic is tied with LA as the worst in the USA.

who ever did that traffic poll never lived in Metro Atlanta for any extended period of time. rick former atlantan now ellicott city, md

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NOT Houston, or anywhere in TX because the "Bubbas" are totally bike-hostile. Fast  swerving pickups and flying tobacco juice.   (It’s so bad, one guy’s got an attack website  http://www.hobil.com/   .) Robert F. "Bury My Heart On Kona" Alexander – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can tell you a best place NOT to live – Colorado. Not that many races, short season. Weather prevents good bike training. Too many other things to do. Sure it is mentioned about the pros here, but many of them are only here for the summer training. But the biggest thing is that Colorado has SOOO much else to do, why would anyone want to just ride and run on the roads. When I used to live in New Orleans, we had a LOT more races and a lot longer season. Plus the only thing to do was road ride and run. You could focus much more easily on triathlons. Since moving to Colorado in 92 I have drifted away from tris. First – the soonest race of the year is in June and the last in Sept., a 4 month season. And, let me say this, this first race (with open water swim) is in two weeks, and yesterday it SNOWED 4-5 inches here. As for distractions, well triathlon training pretty much keeps you one dimensional. Here we have hiking, mtn biking, trail running, climbing, and tons of other stuff to do. Now maybe some can focus on these daily workouts on the roads but why miss all that is offered for something so myopic as just triathlons. So don’t move here unless you want to brach out into other endeavors, else you’d be just as well (better) to move to the midwest, which seems to have a much greater abundance of events, and no distractions.

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The best place to live and train is the Big Island of Hawaii.  Big Island residence have a better chance of getting into the Kona Ironman.  The Big Island is haven for all kinds of sports including some nonradical winter sports. —

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I will soon be graduating from college, and have an opportunity to relocate. I was wondering what people thought was the best place to live for triathletes?  Better yet, where is the best place to live an active life style ?  I really like Northern California, but I wanted to hear other opinions.  Obviously, this won’t be my only criteria for moving but it is a big one.  Thanks

Didn’t follow the entire thread, don’t know if anyone already voted for the Mid-Atlantic region (like DC/Baltimore metro area)…lots of jobs; tons of multisport athletes and events (pretty much race every weekend if you want); some great tri shops (like Bonzai, no I don’t work for them); a handful of good, free, sports-oriented newspapers with event calendars; Troy J, Joanna Z, Marjan H.; … the downsides are: no altitude and the traffic is tied with LA as the worst in the USA. Cheers S. Austin

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Joe Friel has moved to Scottsdale, AZ. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea, Colorado sucks. Don’t come here. There’s no good biking roads, you can’t get altitude, it’s always snowy all the time, the sun never comes out and there’s nobody to train with and there no scenery. At least the really smart triathletes don’t train or live here…like the entire DeBoom family, Dave Scott, Wes Hobson, Cam Widoff, Siri Lindley, Ryan Bolton, Susan Bartholomew etc. Any they would NEVER build a Olympic training triathlon center here. I mean where would they put it…Colorado Springs or something! And who would coach here. I don’t know of any REAL coaches…It’s not like you could get Joe Friel, Libby Burrell, Michelle Blessing, Ray Browning or even a swim coach like Jane Scott to come to Colorado. Definitely don’t come here if you’re interested in Duathlons! Andy Bruckner or Eric Schwartz wouldn’t live here. Not to mention what would you read! Besides, Inside Tri and Colorado Triathlete, Trailrunner magazine aren’t REALLY published here. Yea, glad I’m not a triathlete that lives in Colorado -Andrew Boulder, CO I can tell you a best place NOT to live – Colorado. Not that many races, short season. Weather prevents good bike training. Too many other things to do. Sure it is mentioned about the pros here, but many of them are only here for the summer training. But the biggest thing is that Colorado has SOOO much else to do, why would anyone want to just ride and run on the roads. When I used to live in New Orleans, we had a LOT more races and a lot longer season. Plus the only thing to do was road ride and run. You could focus much more easily on triathlons. Since moving to Colorado in 92 I have drifted away from tris. First – the soonest race of the year is in June and the last in Sept., a 4 month season. And, let me say this, this first race (with open water swim) is in two weeks, and yesterday it SNOWED 4-5 inches here. As for distractions, well triathlon training pretty much keeps you one dimensional. Here we have hiking, mtn biking, trail running, climbing, and tons of other stuff to do. Now maybe some can focus on these daily workouts on the roads but why miss all that is offered for something so myopic as just triathlons. So don’t move here unless you want to brach out into other endeavors, else you’d be just as well (better) to move to the midwest, which seems to have a much greater abundance of events, and no distractions.

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Well, Andrew, Your reply was tongue in cheek, but I meant mine seriously. Whether or not there is an Olympic training center in the state or the coaches you mentioned is neither here nor there. Doesn’t affect most triathletes one way or the other. As for the people you mentioned, it does go to show that people can be successful triathletes here. I don’t dispute that. I will bet though that those people never really take advantage of what is available to do here in Colorado. I never thought myself about the dimensions of athletics too closely until I moved to Colorado and was exposed to all the opportunities here. And those opportunities are not in keeping with the type of training and focus that most RSTer are involved with. Pretty hard to get that type of training in when you are a week in the woods in the San Juan mtns, or climbing 14ers, or mtn biking the Colorado trail, or skiing, snowboarding, kayaking. They don’t have those things to do in many places, or at least not as accessible. I know for a fact that I trained much more consistent when I lived in New Orleans without anything to do but run the roads and ride the roads. I know for a fact that many of my friends here also are committed to tritahlons and train very consistently. I also know that they do not paddle, ski, hike, climb, or even go into the mtns at all, winter or summer. To me that is missing out on some of the finer things in life that we have here. So as to the original inquiry about the best place to live for a triathlete, I would not recommend Colorado unless you are willing to not partake of that which makes Colorado so glorious to live. If you want to train hard, it would be better to live in a place without much else to do. Triathlon training leaves one very one dimensional here in Colorado. Ken Lakewood, CO

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I will soon be graduating from college, and have an opportunity to relocate. I was wondering what people thought was the best place to live for triathletes?  Better yet, where is the best place to live an active life style ?  I really like Northern California, but I wanted to hear other opinions.  Obviously, this won’t be my only criteria for moving but it is a big one.  Thanks JTH

Tucson, Arizona….NO SNOW! Only 2 seasons…warm and hot! "But its a dry heat".Very little rain. Year round outdoor training. B.Oliver

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I will soon be graduating from college, and have an opportunity to relocate. I was wondering what people thought was the best place to live for triathletes?  Better yet, where is the best place to live an active life style ?  I really like Northern California, but I wanted to hear other opinions.  Obviously, this won’t be my only criteria for moving but it is a big one.  Thanks JTH

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New Caledonia is the best place on this earth.   Great swimming, weather, cycling with awesome climbs and scenery. Ken

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I will soon be graduating from college, and have an opportunity to relocate. I was wondering what people thought was the best place to live for triathletes?  Better yet, where is the best place to live an active life style ?  I really like Northern California, but I wanted to hear other opinions.  Obviously, this won’t be my only criteria for moving but it is a big one.  Thanks

UNless you have a trust fund, your job may dictate the locale. <G Seriously, I love the San Diego area and Penticton in BC. NorCal would be nice too but cooler than either. Tom

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New Caledonia is the best place on this earth.   Great swimming, weather, cycling with awesome climbs and scenery.

And until global warming catches up to it., malaria free.   Tom

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NorCal is nice, I certainly enjoyed growing up there, but if you want to ever by a house you have to take a huge bag of money with you. North San Diego Co. is the mecca, if those 20+ rainy days a year don’t bother you too much. Ggreg

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Northwest Illinois.  We have at least two weeks of nice weather for training/racing every year. — http://dschreiner.freeservers.com/

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I would go Vanuatu over New Caledonia just because of the old French scene, but then again I’d take Cairns over both of them. Same climate, less political trouble and you can get "cheap" airfares to the whole of the Oz tri scene. LW

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New Caledonia is the best place on this earth.   Great swimming, weather, cycling with awesome climbs and scenery. Ken

There are bits of South Africa that fit in there as well. Australia’s OK but a bit rubbish in terms of mountains (there aren’t any proper ones). France is pretty damn good as well. London sucks for all the above. Rob

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If you move to New York City you can work for a Street firm, work 70 hours a week, make over $1 million per annum before you’re thirty – buy all the equipment you’ve ever dreamed of and have no time or place to train – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will soon be graduating from college, and have an opportunity to relocate. I was wondering what people thought was the best place to live for triathletes?  Better yet, where is the best place to live an active life style ?  I really like Northern California, but I wanted to hear other opinions.  Obviously, this won’t be my only criteria for moving but it is a big one.  Thanks JTH

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I would go Vanuatu over New Caledonia just because of the old French scene, but then again I’d take Cairns over both of them.

Cairns lost "it" when they allowed 747’s to land.  Ruined that place forever <sigh Tom

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Why is that? I’ve lived here 33 and a ‘bit’ years and apart from rampant development from "city" people who moved here because it was quiet it is still a great place if you know where to go. Lloyd

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I can tell you a best place NOT to live – Colorado. Not that many races, short season. Weather prevents good bike training. Too many other things to do. Sure it is mentioned about the pros here, but many of them are only here for the summer training. But the biggest thing is that Colorado has SOOO much else to do, why would anyone want to just ride and run on the roads. When I used to live in New Orleans, we had a LOT more races and a lot longer season. Plus the only thing to do was road ride and run. You could focus much more easily on triathlons. Since moving to Colorado in 92 I have drifted away from tris. First – the soonest race of the year is in June and the last in Sept., a 4 month season. And, let me say this, this first race (with open water swim) is in two weeks, and yesterday it SNOWED 4-5 inches here. As for distractions, well triathlon training pretty much keeps you one dimensional. Here we have hiking, mtn biking, trail running, climbing, and tons of other stuff to do. Now maybe some can focus on these daily workouts on the roads but why miss all that is offered for something so myopic as just triathlons. So don’t move here unless you want to brach out into other endeavors, else you’d be just as well (better) to move to the midwest, which seems to have a much greater abundance of events, and no distractions.

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Do your CarbonX bars come in quill style also or just Ahead style ? Thanks in advance Seth Moore – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rster’s, Okay so I jumped the gun a little the last time I posted we had or new stuff on the website, but it’s acutally there this time.  Check out the Aero Accesories to see the new goodies.  In addition look over the CarbonX, under Aerobars, to see these goodies mounted on a bar.  The site can be you might have and I’ll reply. Thanks, Todd

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Rster’s, Okay so I jumped the gun a little the last time I posted we had or new stuff on the website, but it’s acutally there this time.  Check out the Aero Accesories to see the new goodies.  In addition look over the CarbonX, under Aerobars, to see these goodies mounted on a bar.  The site can be you might have and I’ll reply. Thanks, Todd

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very petite, very sweet and soft-spoken Chinese performer, sitting behind her instrument on the main stage, after her solo performance. <in *very* accented, halting english "please excuse.  I have only been in Canada …one year….so…please, my english….sucks!"

Hey!  Where the heck are you? Allan To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man  - Oliver Wendell Holmes The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. – Alice Walker homepage:  members.xoom.com/vegboy

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what swimmer signed your hat?

two Peruvian girls and a Chilean guy.  The Canadian synchro team signed also. Allan To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man  - Oliver Wendell Holmes The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. – Alice Walker homepage:  members.xoom.com/vegboy

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Way cool!! we’ve volunteered for our local folk music festival for the last 12 years, we get tshirts that identify us as volunteers.  My kids always get the performers to autograph their shirts with permanent markers too.  this year we have signatures from groups and individuals from Ireland, Viet Nam, China, South America, Africa, Canada, US.  We’ve fiddlers, dancers, singers, drummers, and even some of the crew from the travelling cast of Riverdance! BTW, best line from this year’s festival: very petite, very sweet and soft-spoken Chinese performer, sitting behind her instrument on the main stage, after her solo performance. <in *very* accented, halting english "please excuse.  I have only been in Canada …one year….so…please, my english….sucks!" rena still giggling over the vernacular

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – as part of our volunteer uniforms, we got caps.  Like baseball caps. With the Pan Am logo on the front.  With three days to go in the games, I got the idea that it would be a really good souvenir to have as many athletes as possible sign my cap.  So I bought a permanent marker, and bugged any athlete I saw to sign.  I ended up with 44 signatures. Countries represented on my hat: Canada USA Brazil Uruguay Ecuador Cuba Dominican Republic Guatemala Chile Peru Mexico Venezuela (heh heh) Argentina Sports represented on my hat: Basketball Volleyball Archery Synchronized Swimming Swimming 10 pin bowling Team Handball Boxing Soccer Triathlon Field Hockey I had a great time. Allan To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man  - Oliver Wendell Holmes The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. – Alice Walker homepage:  members.xoom.com/vegboy

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what swimmer signed your hat? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -as part of our volunteer uniforms, we got caps.  Like baseball caps. With the Pan Am logo on the front.  With three days to go in the games, I got the idea that it would be a really good souvenir to have as many athletes as possible sign my cap.  So I bought a permanent marker, and bugged any athlete I saw to sign.  I ended up with 44 signatures. Countries represented on my hat: Canada USA Brazil Uruguay Ecuador Cuba Dominican Republic Guatemala Chile Peru Mexico Venezuela (heh heh) Argentina Sports represented on my hat: Basketball Volleyball Archery Synchronized Swimming Swimming 10 pin bowling Team Handball Boxing Soccer Triathlon Field Hockey I had a great time. Allan To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man – Oliver Wendell Holmes The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. – Alice Walker homepage:  members.xoom.com/vegboy

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as part of our volunteer uniforms, we got caps.  Like baseball caps. With the Pan Am logo on the front.  With three days to go in the games, I got the idea that it would be a really good souvenir to have as many athletes as possible sign my cap.  So I bought a permanent marker, and bugged any athlete I saw to sign.  I ended up with 44 signatures.

That’s a great idea!  When I worked at the 1987 Pan Am games, I got a T-shirt and a nice poster.  However, my contact with the athletes was of a much different nature, and as for "signatures", well, I worked in the drug screening lab and all the samples were anonymous — until they tested positive and it was in the next day’s paper.  That was an interesting experience.  The Americans who tested positive were "Sue, sue, sue!", while athletes from other countries looked like they felt lower than dirt, including this little Nicaraguan wrestler who had just won the country’s first ever Pan Am medal . . . Peter

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as part of our volunteer uniforms, we got caps.  Like baseball caps. With the Pan Am logo on the front.  With three days to go in the games, I got the idea that it would be a really good souvenir to have as many athletes as possible sign my cap.  So I bought a permanent marker, and bugged any athlete I saw to sign.  I ended up with 44 signatures. Countries represented on my hat: Canada USA Brazil Uruguay Ecuador Cuba Dominican Republic Guatemala Chile Peru Mexico Venezuela (heh heh) Argentina Sports represented on my hat: Basketball Volleyball Archery Synchronized Swimming Swimming 10 pin bowling Team Handball Boxing Soccer Triathlon Field Hockey I had a great time. Allan To have doubted one’s own first principles is the mark of a civilized man  - Oliver Wendell Holmes The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. – Alice Walker homepage:  members.xoom.com/vegboy

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Could someone help me get an entry form to Mighty Mite in Arkansas for the 19th of this month? Phone number or any information would be appreciated. Thanks Tri-junkie

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Could someone help me get an entry form to Mighty Mite in Arkansas for the 19th of this month? Phone number or any information would be appreciated. Thanks Tri-junkie

Contact phone number for Mitymite Triathlon is 870-633-1889 Let me know ASAP and I might be able to fax you an entry on Monday if I can find my original copy of the form. Good luck and hope to see you there. Mr. Stewie  8<)

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I went for my first long swim in salt water today, and I felt a sick to my stomach when I was through. I didn’t think I had swallowed *that* much salt water, but I’m still working under the assumption that this was the cause. Aside from trying to NOT swallow salt water, does anyone have any solutions as to what to eat or take beforehand (or after) to counter the affects of the salt water? Thanks!

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I went for my first long swim in salt water today, and I felt a sick to my stomach when I was through. I didn’t think I had swallowed *that* much salt water, but I’m still working under the assumption that this was the cause. Aside from trying to NOT swallow salt water, does anyone have any solutions as to what to eat or take beforehand (or after) to counter the affects of the salt water? Thanks!

I had the same problem surfing with my husband for the first time.  I found the salty feeling in my mouth made me feel at first really thirsty (I was having way too much fun to go in).  I went golfing afterward and almost tossed my cookies – I think I was just a little dehydrated, which might be your case as well.  The next time I went out, I didn’t have a problem, and I stayed out longer.  I concentrated on looking at a fixed object every so often (the end of a pier) Also, more than one person has been known to toss his cookies in the Chesapeake Bay swim in MD, due to seasickness.  The problem with swimming that you don’t have with surfing (unless the waves are really high), is that you can’t really keep a fixed object in your sight, and the waves really toss you around more than you can tell.  Try going out again fully hydrated and with not too much food in your stomach.  Look up (a la triathlon swim) every so often toward a stationary object.  If you aren’t one to get seasick (I have a cast iron stomach myself) you’ll probobly be okay.  If you’re still nauseous, try dramamine.  I’ve heard from my husband (who surfs and swims in open water with no problem, but tossed his cookies last year on the largest Cruiseship in the world – go figure) that it works.

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 If you aren’t one to get seasick (I have a cast iron stomach myself) you’ll probobly be okay.  If you’re still nauseous, try dramamine.  

Just a precaution: dramamine can make many people very drowsy-do not take before the swim. The product says it is not as effective if taken after you get nauseous,but take it from someone who gets motion sickness very easily-it is the only thing that will relieve you from that misery. Also, when I started rolling from side to side more in my swims-I seem to be able to reduce the sea-sickness more. (?) Regards, Lee Rudin San Francisco Bay Area Triathlon Training Sites http://www.slip.net/~leeway/

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The problem with dramamine is that it can make you sleep on the spot. When I take it to go fishing, I don’t catch anything, because I spend my day in dreamland. I would consider that a problem if your in the midst of a triathlon ( people WILL notice if you’re sleeping on your bike)

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A little over a week ago I participated (can’t say raced) in my first Ironman distance race. What a blast! I entered the Esprit Triathlon in Montreal. It’s held on an island in the St Lawrence river, right in Montreal. The swim is in the ‘76 Olympics Rowing basin and the ride is on the Gilles Villenueve Formula One racing circuit. The run is also around the rowing basin with a short segment on the car circuit. The day dawned, but way too close to the start of the race. We we camping just outside so had to wake the kids at 5:00am to get to the race site by 6. They were awed by seeing their first sunrise. I was less amazed as the Java had yet to kick in. Once dawn arrived it showed an overcast and breezy day with not alot of heat in the air. The swim started at 7:02, 2 minutes late since some guys wetsuit tore and he had to borrow an extra from someone else so they delayed the start. 77 other suitably low IQ geeks toed the line at the waters edge. I planned to swim the first 500m at my own pace and then tuck in behind whoever was nearest to me and enjoy a tow to save energy. Some guy was close at about 300m so I stayed with him for a while but decided to drop back as the pace was ever so slightly quick for me. I then followed a cable attached to the bouy line and started to really enjoy the swim. I got into a rythm and plop plop plopped my way down the basin. My wife and two kids followed along side of the basin and were not more thatn 10m away most of the way. I even managed to see my wife scolding my son for throwing stones into the basin! This part was  a pretty cool beginning to a way cool race. As the swim wore on I got into a real groove and near the end was disappointed the swim segment wasn’t 10km instead of just 3.8km. After a near drowning as a kid (hauled out of a pool unconscious) I’ve never been keen for the water but I guess times change and I feel really comfortable in the water.   I exited the water in a clump of four other participants in 1 hour 9 min which really lifted my spirits as I felt great and was 11 min ahead of schedule. After a kinda long T1 I hopped onto 40lbs of the best steel ever to come out of Taiwan (feels like 40lb) and headed for the bike course. My chain came off and jammed. This nearly caused me to ride/fall into the basin. I wanted the swim to continue but this was too much. Since it was still early it was pretty chilly on a dripping wet body. I rode the first 8 loops (4.4km per loop) faster than planned simply to try and warm up. I then settled into a type of rythm broken only to chat to other racers and participants. I took a disposable camera with me and got pictures of the leaders (sprinted to their pace momentarily to get the shot) fellow rsters (Hi Beth!) and even the couple competing as a team on their tandem bike. At about 75 mile I really wanted to get off the bike and start to run. A longer loop would’ve made things more interesting rather than having to do as many loops. With about 10 laps to go, the computer doing the counting went down. The folks responsible did their best to get it straightened out as best they could, but due to their error and my inability to keep count for 6-1/2 hours on a bike, I managed to do 1 extra lap AAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!! Oh well….   For once I was really happy to be getting onto the run course. I had eased up for the last few loops to get my legs ready for the 9 laps of the marathon. I felt nice and fresh and eager for the run ( is this really TriDork talking???) The first 2-1/2 loops went great. Good pace for me and it felt sustainable ( for a while at least) at about 12 km my right knee fell apart. I think it was an IT band problem. I’ve never had it before but I think my shoes (handed down from Moses) were a contributing factor. I guess I should’ve got those new shoes afterall. I was forced to powerwalk the last 40km which blew any chance of finishing under my target 13 hour time. My wife walked with me for a lap and that bouyed my sagging spirits. She powerwalks regularly and was huffin and puffin so I think my pace was reasonable. I blistered my left foot due to my odd gait ( sort of like a 1 legged flamingo). I was pretty happy to finish and finally stop walking. I achieved my main goal of finishing under my own power without having to use an IV bag. I was obviously disappointed with my 14hr 16 min total time but I had a fantastic time and finished in better shape than either of my 1/2 ironman races so had a really positive experience. It’s been over a week and I feel great. I have agreed not to do an Ironman next year so I can see my family a little, but 1997 watch out. I doubt anyone has ever had more fun doing their first Ironman than I had but if anyone has, they were probably on drugs. When I think back to the race I get this silly grin on my face that makes people around me think I’ve just wet myself. I wish everyone could have as much fun as I had. TriDork Lives!! TriDork

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Way to go, Marcus!  Great report!   -Rolf — Rolf "Ironman" Arands, Ph.D.     |  (Back by popular demand…)     |         "Do."

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Hey Marcus. Blair here. Just got the results in the mail yesterday. I actually finished 10th in the age category…. I too was a happy swimmer (1:10 water time with 12 min transition…had the runs ya know)… I’d be interested in getting a picture of me. You took one at about the 140 K mark when we were talking. Remember we were commenting on the lack of I also had a hurtin’ run. I can run 3:30 or better for the marathon (by itself of course) and I dragged by but across with a 5:30 marathon. My legs were cramping, BUT NO BLISTERS. I also trained this weekend with little pain (legs-o-lead though). Yeserday’s 16k was quicker than usual. I want to stay in Hope ya make it out to the Ottawa region (or I’ll make it out to Western region) next season for some Olympic distances (seem so short now don’t they…..) Take care Marcus…. Blairman

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Marcus Perry (TriDork) writes….. When I think back to the race I get this silly grin on my face that makes people around me think I’ve just wet myself. I wish everyone could have as much fun as I had. TriDork Lives!! TriDork

Marcus, great report.  I’ve never seen you but I have a vision of you with that silly grin, and I can’t stop grinning myself. Thanks. Bruce Ackman

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I wish everyone could have as much fun as I had. TriDork Lives!! TriDork

good story. boy i hope i can say i had fun after my first ironman  distance race john <(

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Hey there Tridork!!!  Glad to see ya made it back!  Where is the provience you live?  There were alot of nice Canadians at the triathon that we met. I am very glad my brother convinced me to do the race last October, I liked it alot and liked the way family could support us.  We will go back and try it again!  This time my husband will give it a try!  My brother, Darryl, me, and my husband will all be back in 97.  That puts everyone spending time with their families this year and let the body heal up some. It was nice to meet the one and only tridork of Canada.                                                        Your tri-buddies from Colorado!!!!! Beezer IW (Beth)                                                                                       After seeing the course and participating in a small way in the events, I’ve decided(been talked into?) running the thing myself in 2 years. Oh what the hell, I love overtraing and pain and lack of sleep anyway. I’ll just quit my job.  Anyway, Marcus, it was nice to have met you. Since I ran the whole marathon with Beth anyway, I may as well do the rest of it.                                                                                    Loner(Mark)

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[....] Perhaps no-one told the commentator about drafting.  It was allowed in this race, but when McMartin and Dobson(?) were at the front, the commentator was going on about how they were battling for the lead.  It looked alot like a 2 man PACELINE to me (can u have that with 2 people?)

[....] Actually, I was amazed at what a poor job the two leaders did of drafting on the bike leg.  They left large gaps (often 3 or 4 feet) and frequently were not drafting at all.  That put them at a disadvantage because one of the chase groups ran a fairly creditable paceline.  One of the leaders ended up getting caught by some of the chasers on the run.  A bigger gap from the bike leg could have saved him. I don’t like drafting in a tri, but if you’re going to do it, do it well. Despite my above comments, I’m glad that triathlon is getting coverage. It’s better than the 5 lines given to the TdF on Sportsdesk every night

I agree. Dave LaPorte U. of Minn.

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I was on this morning and saw two postings of the ITU World Cup results from Whistler and now they are gone. Can people pull things off of this newsgroup at will? Or off into cyberspace? Just wondering?

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I was on this morning and saw two postings of the ITU World Cup results from Whistler and now they are gone. Can people pull things off of this newsgroup at will? Or off into cyberspace? Just wondering?

Well, I just watched this on TV and wasn’t all that impressed.  The commentators insisted on talking in miles (1mi,25mi,6mi) – close, but no cigar. Perhaps no-one told the commentator about drafting.  It was allowed in this race, but when McMartin and Dobson(?) were at the front, the commentator was going on about how they were battling for the lead.  It looked alot like a 2 man PACELINE to me (can u have that with 2 people?) The Australian co-star was OK, but only spoke when spoken to.  One thing that bothered me was when he said, in comparison to IM, that this was really just a sprint.  I’m not sure this is a great thing to promote the sport to newbies like myself.  The winners were out there for just under 2 hours – 15 minutes quicker than the top runners finish a marathon- but no-one would call that a sprint, even in comparison to an ultra. All I really remember of the results was that Andrew McMartin was 1st and Frank Clarke second (yeah, Canada!)  I think Wes Dobson(?) was 5th. He said he got a little dehydrated on the run. Despite my above comments, I’m glad that triathlon is getting coverage. It’s better than the 5 lines given to the TdF on Sportsdesk every night Sean.

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I was on this morning and saw two postings of the ITU World Cup results from Whistler and now they are gone. Can people pull things off of this newsgroup at will? Or off into cyberspace? Just wondering? Well, I just watched this on TV and wasn’t all that impressed.  The commentators insisted on talking in miles (1mi,25mi,6mi) – close, but no cigar.

Speaking as a semi-retired beer-guzzling, arm-chair quarterback, I wonder if CBS did this for the beer-guzzling, arm-chair quarterback crowd who still isn’t able to comprehend or relate to the metric system. However, I thought the coverage was better than average– especially better than the stuff ESPN did last year. Perhaps no-one told the commentator about drafting.  It was allowed in this race, but when McMartin and Dobson(?) were at the front, the commentator was going on about how they were battling for the lead.  It looked alot like a 2 man PACELINE to me (can u have that with 2 people?)

This race was the first drafting legal, ITU race I was able to catch.  It became pretty clear that the pros still are learning the tactics of a draft legal race.   I expected to see a lot of tight, fast-moving (lead changing) pace lines.  I guess this is probably due to aerobars… SZAG: maybe you could bring this up to the ITU…  Make some sort of a brake on the end of the aerobars mandatory for drafting legal races.  This would increase safety and really tighten up the pace lines.   The Australian co-star was OK, but only spoke when spoken to.  

I was pleasantly surprised with Miles commentary and was glad to see it. The winners were out there for just under 2 hours – 15 minutes quicker than the top runners finish a marathon- but no-one would call that a sprint, even in comparison to an ultra.

Your right, but maybe from a pro’s perspective this is sort of a sprint… I was surprised to find myself liking the drafting legal format.  I think it would be fun to try.  However, we need to keep both formats around and only have a few, field-size limited, draft-legal races.    W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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[....] was going on about how they were battling for the lead.  It looked alot like a 2 man PACELINE to me (can u have that with 2 people?) [....] Actually, I was amazed at what a poor job the two leaders did of drafting on the bike leg.  They left large gaps (often 3 or 4 feet) and frequently were not drafting at all.  

This was also my observation, and I just gave the pros some benefit of the doubt by saying that they just weren’t used to this type of race strategy yet…  My first reaction was that these guys (leaders) just wanted to be out front so they could "beat their chests" so to speak and all mental aspects of drafting and strategy seemed to play a secondary role. That put them at a disadvantage because one of the chase groups ran a fairly creditable paceline.  

Of course, this one wasn’t very organized either…  I remember seeing guys sprinting out from the middle of the paceline at times which disrupts the entire flow…      W.Patrick Brug, Ph.D.  _-           -_    Los Alamos National Lab -__       __-                                       /    cis:      72410,3372        /  

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