I had a great time at this sprint race in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. No alligators showed up. Tons of volunteers made every thing run well. This being my first race, I had only hoped to finish before the streets were reopened for cars and the bagels were packed up. I did! At 1:16:something, I was even second in the Athenas. Now if I can just speed up a little so I don’t see so many people running while I am on the bike:-) Lynne
You can find the Petrie Chiropractic Triathlon race results at: http://www.trifind.com/results/petrie.html Steve A
If you can read Russian try this site: http://www.sprandi.ru/sports/moscow.htm. OLEG!! Quick, The time is here. This may be the break you just needed. 
"Indyjogger" Laurie
I am thinking about running Moscow Marathon, next August 29th. I didn’t find any website of their. Does anybody know anything about that marathon. Most of all I would like to see a map of the course. Thank you and best regards. Andrea Costa Milan – Italy.
If you can read Russian try this site: http://www.sprandi.ru/sports/moscow.htm. Ken I am thinking about running Moscow Marathon, next August 29th. I didn’t find any website of their. Does anybody know anything about that marathon. Most of all I would like to see a map of the course. Thank you and best regards. Andrea Costa Milan – Italy.
Ken Parker Runner’s Web A running & triathlon resource site. http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html
If you can read Russian try this site: http://www.sprandi.ru/sports/moscow.htm.
For a nominal free maybe our resident Bolshevik Oleg, will translate. — Caveat Lector!
That link is for Moscow Intl half-marathon that takes place in May. You are probably talking about MMMM – Moscow Internation Piece Marathon, the one that takes place in late august-beginning of september. I don’t think they have a good website but you can always try to contact them at the numbers listed below (I would suggest trying to fax a request for a map) (095) 924-08-24 (T/Fx) (095) 924-15-03 (095) 924-00-15 (Fax) (095) 924-39-21 If they haven’t changed the route recently, the start is at "Vassilievski Spusk" by the Red Square, most of the route goes along Moscow-river (making it pretty flat) and the finish is by Hotel "Russia". On average about 15 thousand people are expected to race there. The only email address I could find is that of the charity fund for the marathon – maybe they can help you. Good Luck, Oleg
: If you can read Russian try this site: : http://www.sprandi.ru/sports/moscow.htm. : Ken
:I am thinking about running Moscow Marathon, next August 29th. :I didn’t find any website of their. 
oes anybody know anything about that marathon. Most of all I would like to :see a map of the course. : :Thank you and best regards. : :Andrea Costa :Milan – Italy. : : : : : : Ken Parker : Runner’s Web : A running & triathlon resource site. : http://www.runnersweb.com/running.html — Oleg
I prefer to use the Nowavo Immersion(r) technique for reducing the possibility of drafting. This technique requires that you do the entire swim leg underwater, face up, blowing copious amounts of air through your nose to tickly the bellies of the competitors you are swimming beneath.
Why do all that, I just blow the bubbles out the leg of my wetsuit;-) D.J. (the little stinker IRONKID)
Dan: My reply to this person’s post was not meant to become a debate with or …
Enough of this kid gloves diplomatic gentlemanly stuff. It’s time for each of you to put on your wetsuit, come on down to the local pond and go for it. Whoever wins should then shout 100 times I Told You So. It doesn’t matter who is the better swimmer; we know the occupant of the suit just goes along for the ride in either one of your self-propelling suits. Ruth Kazez
Ruth: Great idea!! Dan are you in?? O.K., so this will once and for all prove the speed tests. Now how do I convince Dan that the "Vo2 Stealth" will make him more attractive to the opposite sex, improve his IQ, and get rid of any touch of gray? It is obvious that Dan and I are very passionate about our products and what we do in this industry. This will explain why we both have a great deal of respect for one another. Don’t be surprised if you see Dan and I drinking "mai tai’s" in Kona, and laughing over our posts! Cheers- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dan: My reply to this person’s post was not meant to become a debate with or … Enough of this kid gloves diplomatic gentlemanly stuff. It’s time for each of you to put on your wetsuit, come on down to the local pond and go for it. Whoever wins should then shout 100 times I Told You So. It doesn’t matter who is the better swimmer; we know the occupant of the suit just goes along for the ride in either one of your self-propelling suits. Ruth Kazez
Great idea!! Dan are you in??
knowing what kind of swim shape i’m in, and what kind of shape you’re always in, the only way i’ll agree to a swim off is if i swim in your suit and you in mine. then the winner gets the bragging rights. Don’t be surprised if you see Dan and I drinking "mai tai’s" in Kona, and laughing over our posts!
…and, who knows? maybe discussing keith’s new responsibilities qrman
Keith, What the HECK is VO2 "output"? It has always been apparent to me that the MORE O2 utilized the better. In order to have a higher VO2 (which by definition is oxygen consumption) one has to train hard, eat right, get lots of sleep and pick the right parents. Simple really. Mick O. Exercise Physiologist, Pitt PS Expired oxygen is generally written FEO2. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
Caution: Do not try this without the use of your endomosis wetsuit to continually replenish your oxygen supply. Also, nose-plug swimmers have been known to explode when attempting Nowavo Immersion(r).
The image that this conjures up is absolutely *PRICELESS* (not to mention hysterically funny). Thank you, Mark!! Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft." *** Ironman Canada 1997 – 13:04:09 *** http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
Mick and Kieth- I have always been confused by this in the Ironman suit ads as well. A higher VO2 output seems to me the exact opposite of what you want. If the suit really worked to make you faster you should have a lower VO2 at the same speed over other suits (i.e. less energy required to go the same speed therefore able to maintain higher speed at the same VO2). Can you explain what is meant by "VO2 output"? I understand that your max VO2 will be lower swimming than cycling than running but that is simply because of issues like muscle mass involvement and body position. Scott Schnitzspahn (also an Exercise Physiologist from Ohio State) Scott Schnitzspahn Head Coach – President Endurance Sports Solutions, Ltd. http://www.enduranet.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keith, What the HECK is VO2 "output"? It has always been apparent to me that the MORE O2 utilized the better. In order to have a higher VO2 (which by definition is oxygen consumption) one has to train hard, eat right, get lots of sleep and pick the right parents. Simple really. Mick O. Exercise Physiologist, Pitt PS Expired oxygen is generally written FEO2. PPS I have used O’Neill suits for 12 years and would recommend them to anyone! John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
Mick: I will send you the test data from the "University of Calgary". You should find this quite interesting. Please forward your mailing address. Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keith, What the HECK is VO2 "output"? It has always been apparent to me that the MORE O2 utilized the better. In order to have a higher VO2 (which by definition is oxygen consumption) one has to train hard, eat right, get lots of sleep and pick the right parents. Simple really. Mick O. Exercise Physiologist, Pitt PS Expired oxygen is generally written FEO2. PPS I have used O’Neill suits for 12 years and would recommend them to anyone! John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
Keith, What the HECK is VO2 "output"? It has always been apparent to me that the MORE O2 utilized the better. In order to have a higher VO2 (which by definition is oxygen consumption) one has to train hard, eat right, get lots of sleep and pick the right parents. Simple really. Mick O. Exercise Physiologist, Pitt PS Expired oxygen is generally written FEO2. PPS I have used O’Neill suits for 12 years and would recommend them to anyone! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
Gentlemen! Dan…..Keith…..this post is my official offer to be a wetsuit mercenary! First wetsuit that arrives at my front doorstep <no charge and postage paid of course gets my undying loyalty. I promise to savagely swim over any competitor using the "enemy’s" brand wetsuit at my next triathlon due to my new found speed. (At present I sport a Promotion brand shortie which has none of the gee-whiz rubber so I am looking for at least a 10% increase in speed). Heck….I might even bike and run in the darn thing if ya throw in a pair of goggles! Email me for sizing and style preferences. Thanks, Greg Nelson PS I dont need no space age material to produce less wake to slow my drafting competitors down…I just swim slower!
but it is, after all, simply a wetsuit, and like our own, will help you swim, but will not make you more attractive to the opposite sex, increase your IQ, or get rid of that touch of gray. qrman
Well Dan, you just lost a sale Gerard Vroomen, Cervelo Cycles website: http://www.cervelo.com
John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
How does the explain the different feel in the QR Hydro and the VO2 suit
the art of wetsuit design is in the pattern making. sometimes copying a successful competitor’s wetsuit extends to using the rubber they use. but one european tri suit which has been around for eight or ten years took a more drastic shortcut and simply copied our patterns, i.e., reverse engineered our suits. ironman never did that to us, they have their own patterns which make the suit fit & feel differently than ours, but not necessarily worse. you can expect a fairly big difference between the suits, and between our two suits and orca. but the difference is mostly in the patterns and features, not the rubber. qrman
Dan: My reply to this person’s post was not meant to become a debate with or against you. I was simply answering his questions. I stand behind everything that was written. With all due respect to you, we do use a proprietary rubber that is not found in any of your wetsuits. The speed tests that I was referring to, are independent tests and were not done by our company. Our claim of having almost every top professional pro in our suit is a valid one. I stress the word top. I never said more pro’s wear our suit than any other. I am very proud of the world class professional triathletes that have chosen to wear our suit. Thanks for your closing comments. I appreciate the compliment. I do enjoy the friendly competition between our two companies. I hold great respect for many people in this industry including yourself. Best regards, Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – with all due respect, keith, i certainly hope you sell enough wetsuits to keep going, but ironman wetsuits has had "truth in advertising" issues since before you were running the show, and i hope it doesn’t continue under your stewardship. among the things i hope we don’t stoop to are: 1. …trying to tell the public there are meaningful differences in the materials we use. as you know, we both buy from the same supplier. there are features that each of us can point to, i.e., you use a superstretch panel under the arm, we glue & blindstitch the entire arm of thinner– and therefore stretchier– rubber than you. is your way better or ours? that’s a worthwhile discussion. but you don’t have any secret formula rubber that does anything special hydrodynamically. the only thing you did to increase your suits’ hydrodynamics was start buying the rubber Tommy Yamamoto developed for QR, after our season of exclusivity. Smart move on your part. 2. …trying to say which suit is faster based on our own proprietary tests: i had to endure years of your predecessor claiming that yours was the world’s fastest wetsuit based on some vapor test he could never produce. it was out of that exasperation that we published, and still publish, the results of fitness swimmer’s test which had both good and bad things to say about both our suits, but CLEARLY placed ours first insofar as speed was concerned. i’d be happy to pull the ad, and future such ads, if you will discontinue the ridiculous claims your predecessor started. 3. …claiming the majority of the pros swim in one suit or the other: i took two wetsuit surveys this year, at the first USTS in phoenix, and at USTS oceanside. at phoenix, TJ Fry, i think it was, wore an aquaman. every other male pro was in a QR, 25 in total. oceanside was quite similar, but with twice as many pros. so far as the pro women go, if they’re not swimming in QR they seem to be choosing Orca. i haven’t made an issue of these actual & true numbers at all, and i’d like to keep the public discourse amiable. but i’m happy to share these statistics in ads if that’s what you’d prefer. so give it a rest with the… We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. in closing may i say that, notwithstanding the above, i sure as hell enjoy keith simmons’ style of business– in general– compared to that of his predecessor. keith is a great guy, a worthy competitor, so much so that we’ve tried to get him to join forces with us. also, keith’s suit, ironman, which is built in new zealand by some very nice guys, is a great suit, and i have no problem losing a sale to this company. but it is, after all, simply a wetsuit, and like our own, will help you swim, but will not make you more attractive to the opposite sex, increase your IQ, or get rid of that touch of gray. qrman
: 1. …trying to tell the public there are meaningful differences in the : materials we use. as you know, we both buy from the same supplier. there How does the explain the different feel in the QR Hydro and the VO2 suit Dan and Keith? I’ve swam in both, and at least to me, the two suits had a very different feel in the stretch, flexibility, and what Keith calls the 3-dimensional symmetry. : suit, and i have no problem losing a sale to this company. but it is, : after all, simply a wetsuit, and like our own, will help you swim, but : will not make you more attractive to the opposite sex, increase your IQ, : or get rid of that touch of gray. Hmmmm, damn, I won’t say which suit I’ve decided to swim in this year, but I certainly haven’t gotten any more dates because of it. I’ll post a post-IMC report detailing it. I’ll wear both suits to morning swims, and we’ll see which one people flock to more. That will make the race morning decision. 
In all honesty, having fit people for wetsuits for several years, there’s no one right answer I don’t think. MAYBE there’s a difference for a pro, but for the rest of us, I don’t honestly think we’re going to get much more of an advantage by choosing one over the other. Choose the one that feels best to *you*. — Jason Mayfield, Arlington VA Persist, Persevere, Deny, Pursue, Pain, Survive, Ignore, Endure, Strive, Laugh, Cry, Live, Prevail, Scream, Sweat, Bleed, Sustain, Learn, Ascend, Give, Get, GO! 21 Days Until Ironman Canada ‘98
with all due respect, keith, i certainly hope you sell enough wetsuits to keep going, but ironman wetsuits has had "truth in advertising" issues since before you were running the show, and i hope it doesn’t continue under your stewardship. among the things i hope we don’t stoop to are: 1. …trying to tell the public there are meaningful differences in the materials we use. as you know, we both buy from the same supplier. there are features that each of us can point to, i.e., you use a superstretch panel under the arm, we glue & blindstitch the entire arm of thinner– and therefore stretchier– rubber than you. is your way better or ours? that’s a worthwhile discussion. but you don’t have any secret formula rubber that does anything special hydrodynamically. the only thing you did to increase your suits’ hydrodynamics was start buying the rubber Tommy Yamamoto developed for QR, after our season of exclusivity. Smart move on your part. 2. …trying to say which suit is faster based on our own proprietary tests: i had to endure years of your predecessor claiming that yours was the world’s fastest wetsuit based on some vapor test he could never produce. it was out of that exasperation that we published, and still publish, the results of fitness swimmer’s test which had both good and bad things to say about both our suits, but CLEARLY placed ours first insofar as speed was concerned. i’d be happy to pull the ad, and future such ads, if you will discontinue the ridiculous claims your predecessor started. 3. …claiming the majority of the pros swim in one suit or the other: i took two wetsuit surveys this year, at the first USTS in phoenix, and at USTS oceanside. at phoenix, TJ Fry, i think it was, wore an aquaman. every other male pro was in a QR, 25 in total. oceanside was quite similar, but with twice as many pros. so far as the pro women go, if they’re not swimming in QR they seem to be choosing Orca. i haven’t made an issue of these actual & true numbers at all, and i’d like to keep the public discourse amiable. but i’m happy to share these statistics in ads if that’s what you’d prefer. so give it a rest with the… We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design.
in closing may i say that, notwithstanding the above, i sure as hell enjoy keith simmons’ style of business– in general– compared to that of his predecessor. keith is a great guy, a worthy competitor, so much so that we’ve tried to get him to join forces with us. also, keith’s suit, ironman, which is built in new zealand by some very nice guys, is a great suit, and i have no problem losing a sale to this company. but it is, after all, simply a wetsuit, and like our own, will help you swim, but will not make you more attractive to the opposite sex, increase your IQ, or get rid of that touch of gray. qrman
By applying a thin coating of GU over your entire body before putting on the wetsuit, you can also build carbo reserves that can be drawn upon later in the race.
OK, I got the GU on all right. Now, how do I get these damn ants out of my wetsuit? Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win." R.A.H.
John: Thanks for your post, and the delicate way that you asked the question. I will try to answer this question as briefly as possible. The University of Calagary has supplied us with 5 pages of technical data which proves that the "VO2 STEALTH SUIT" actually increases your Vo2 Output over conventional wetsuits. We will be adding these test results to our web page in the near future. The "VO2 STEALTH" was designed specifically to increase your power output during the swim. It is a simple known fact that every swimmer will swim faster with a wetsuit. (This is due to buoyancy & hydrodynamics) It is also a known fact that you will swim stronger without a wetsuit. This is because all wetsuits (except for the "VO2 STEALTH") are designed on a one dimisional symmetry between the athlete and the wetsuit. This design restricts breathing and reduces your VO2 Metabolic performance. Keep in mind that the buoyancy & hydrodynamic benefits of a wetsuit far out weigh any performance lost due to the lowered VO2 output. Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits has designed the "VO2 STEALTH" to outperform all other suits hydrodynamically, while also reducing the lowered VO2 metabolic performance that occurs while wearing other wetsuit designs. This was accomplished by designing the suit on a 3-dimisional symmetry between wetsuit and athlete. These additional chest panels increase comfort while enhancing your ability to consume oxygen. This was achieved without effecting the hydrodynamic benefits of the wetsuit itself. The "VO2 STEALTH" is the first and only wetsuit in world designed with these 3-dimensional chest panels. We have had almost every top professional triathlete in the world request a suit from us due to this unique feature and design. We outfitted our sponsored professionals early in the season and word spread quickly amongst the pros that the "VO2 STEALTH" suit gave significant advantages over any other wetsuit. (Ask Peter Reid, Lori Bowden, Wendy Ingrahmn, Tim Deboom, Michelle Jones, Nate Llerandi, Scott Tinley, and Paul Huddle to name a few) The anti-drafting feature is much easier to explain. We use a proprietary rubber on the back panel of all of our elite range wetsuits. This material breaks up water as it passes over the wetsuit. This greatly minimizes the slipstream effect providing improved hydrodynamics and reduces your rear wake. (We found this to work by accident.) The rubber was actually designed to increase the flexibility, and dissipate heat in warmer water temperatures. Please give me a call if you have any other technical questions. Best regards- Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand….
Aerodynamics and hydrodynamics partly follow the same principles. It is true in both cases that if you improve your own aero/hydrodynamics, you may create a smaller wake and thus less opportunity for the person behind you to draft off you. So IF you wear something with a surface that reduces your own drag, it may also reduce the wake. Now I wouldn’t be able to tell you if the surface needs to be hydrophobic or not, I know I am and it doesn’t make me any faster in the water You doubt the effect of this at the low speeds of swimming, but then you would also have to doubt the effect of drafting in swimming to begin with. If you agree a considerable draft can be obtained in swimming, it will follow that a reduction of your own drag may decrease this draft. Remember that while the speeds of swimming are lower, the viscosity of water is somewhat higher than that of air. Gerard Vroomen, Cervelo Cycles website: http://www.cervelo.com P.S. Gotta go, rijsttafel is being served.
And you can also try "PowerBar Suppositories". – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " Oh John — stop being such a discriminating reader. The wetsuit holds a thin layer of air next to your skin which is absorbed directly into your bloodstream through endomosis transfer. By applying a thin coating of GU over your entire body before putting on the wetsuit, you can also build carbo reserves that can be drawn upon later in the race. B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." I prefer to use the Nowavo Immersion(r) technique for reducing the possibility of drafting. This technique requires that you do the entire swim leg underwater, face up, blowing copious amounts of air through your nose to tickly the bellies of the competitors you are swimming beneath. Caution: Do not try this without the use of your endomosis wetsuit to continually replenish your oxygen supply. Also, nose-plug swimmers have been known to explode when attempting Nowavo Immersion(r).
A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. "
Oh John — stop being such a discriminating reader. The wetsuit holds a thin layer of air next to your skin which is absorbed directly into your bloodstream through endomosis transfer. By applying a thin coating of GU over your entire body before putting on the wetsuit, you can also build carbo reserves that can be drawn upon later in the race. B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake."
I prefer to use the Nowavo Immersion(r) technique for reducing the possibility of drafting. This technique requires that you do the entire swim leg underwater, face up, blowing copious amounts of air through your nose to tickly the bellies of the competitors you are swimming beneath. Caution: Do not try this without the use of your endomosis wetsuit to continually replenish your oxygen supply. Also, nose-plug swimmers have been known to explode when attempting Nowavo Immersion(r).
Not to knock anybody, but I followed a link on RST to Ironman Wetsuits. I read some pretty amazing things there, including claims I don’t understand. To broaden my knowledge base, could somebody explain to me how a wetsuit: A. "…combines with the metabolic advantages of increased oxygen consumption, and increased power output. " B."…improved hydrodynamics plus an anti-drafting advantage by reducing your rear wake." Again I am not knocking these statements, just questioning them for my own education. How can a wetsuit increase oxygen consumption? At the low speeds even the best athletes swim at, can there be a noticeable reduction in drafting capabilities just by surface texture? I don’t understand…. Thanks, John
I’m also preliminarily looking at websuits, and found a lot of used ones for sale on Ebay (www.ebay.com) Just type ‘wetsuits’ in the search field and you should be off and running . . . or swimming. I found several suits, even a few fullsuits for under $100. worth a look, no?
I’m also preliminarily looking at websuits, and found a lot of used ones for sale on Ebay (www.ebay.com) Just type ‘wetsuits’ in the search field and you should be off and running . . . or swimming. I found several suits, even a few fullsuits for under $100.
Are you sure these were swimming wetsuits—not scuba or surfing suits? — Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
<snip Are you sure these were swimming wetsuits—not scuba or surfing suits? — Tri-Baby
Actually, no . . . I’m not sure. I need some advice re: the difference between swimming & surfing, etc.
Actually, no . . . I’m not sure. I need some advice re: the difference between swimming & surfing, etc.
Uh, I mean wetsuits, I mean, you know, between swimming and surfing wetsuits, . . . obviously . . . I mean, uh, I *do* know the difference between swimming and surfing . . . Ron "Damn I need a nap" Gilcreast
<snip Are you sure these were swimming wetsuits—not scuba or surfing suits? — Tri-Baby Actually, no . . . I’m not sure. I need some advice re: the difference between swimming & surfing, etc.
Okey doke, check this out: http://216.1.61.177/wetsuit_page.html — Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
Hey, I saw that site and was just wondering something… How did QR come up with the time of 25 minutes for 1500m to be the speed at which the Hydrophobic suits are actually beneficial? Just curious. Kendall – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip Are you sure these were swimming wetsuits—not scuba or surfing suits? — Tri-Baby Actually, no . . . I’m not sure. I need some advice re: the difference between swimming & surfing, etc. Okey doke, check this out: http://216.1.61.177/wetsuit_page.html — Tri-Baby _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie
Hey, I saw that site and was just wondering something… How did QR come up with the time of 25 minutes for 1500m to be the speed at which the Hydrophobic suits are actually beneficial? Just curious.
it comes from my arbitrary mind. that is the very rough point, sez me, when you can say that you’re swimming ahead instead of side to side, up and down, back and forth, and so on. it is an arbitrary number with a capital "a" (on the assumption that i used caps, which i purposely don’t, for reasons of personal philosophy, incomprehensible by most people, with the notable exception of kazez, who is really the only one who understands me). qrman
Tri-Specialties has a great deal on QR wetsuits. Check out http://Tri-Specialties.com/Quintana%20Roo/qrwetsui.htm (or just Tri-Specialties.com) Jay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am attempting the Gulf Coast for the first time. I have been advised previously by others in this newsgroup that I should have a wetsuit (not for temp , but for sea conditions). Unfortunately, I don’t have a money tree growing in my yard. I have been scanning the net looking for wet suits. They have 2-3 basic types, Full, exposed arms, and the minimum looking kind. Will the inexpensive minimum looking kind achieve the results I’m looking for? Because the full suits appear to be $250+, where the el cheapo’s appear for about $125-$150. I don’t think that I will be racing much in cold water. I live in Louisiana. Can someone comment on their experiences with their wetsuit purchase? I would like to attempt to only buy one suit, and it be the right suit. Quickly running out of money, Jean-Paul Lanaux
J-P Try checking out http://www.rooworld.com/what_makes_a_wetsuit.html It has some interesting info for you. gordo — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Remove SPAM to e-mail me
Jean-Paul Lanaux says… I am attempting the Gulf Coast for the first time. I have been advised previously by others in this newsgroup that I should have a wetsuit (not for temp , but for sea conditions). Unfortunately, I don’t have a money tree growing in my yard. I have been scanning the net looking for wet suits. They have 2-3 basic types, Full, exposed arms, and the minimum looking kind.
Go for the sleaveless. The extra neoprene in the legs will help your swimming. (Unless you already swim like a fish). I was in the same situation when I bought my wetsuit(no money). I ended up buying the sleaveless because it was the only one they had that fitted me and I don’t regret having had to pay the extra money. It might seem a bit expensive now but when you consider that a good wetsuit will last a long time if carefully looked after. (I’ve got surfing wetsuits that are 10 years old and are still great) AJ — If swimming is so good for the figure, explain whales Simon Haigh Illawarra Triathlon Club – Australia http://members.xoom.com/ajsimon/index.htm <—- New web site
Jean, I got a good suit from Promotion (www.wetsuit.com). The suit was a closeout model (One of last years I believe. Ask them because they have others). I paid only $100.00 for the suit, which is a sleeveless type. I hope this helps. Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – J-P Try checking out http://www.rooworld.com/what_makes_a_wetsuit.html It has some interesting info for you. gordo — Remove SPAM to e-mail me
I am attempting the Gulf Coast for the first time. I have been advised previously by others in this newsgroup that I should have a wetsuit (not for temp , but for sea conditions). Unfortunately, I don’t have a money tree growing in my yard. I have been scanning the net looking for wet suits. They have 2-3 basic types, Full, exposed arms, and the minimum looking kind. Will the inexpensive minimum looking kind achieve the results I’m looking for? Because the full suits appear to be $250+, where the el cheapo’s appear for about $125-$150. I don’t think that I will be racing much in cold water. I live in Louisiana. Can someone comment on their experiences with their wetsuit purchase? I would like to attempt to only buy one suit, and it be the right suit. Quickly running out of money, Jean-Paul Lanaux
I bought a long john (type with no sleeves) from a Performance Bike shop. Check their site (www.performancebike.com). I paid about $90. and have had it for a few years with no problems. It’s a little less than I need when in the cold ocean of Northern California, but would probably be great in warmer water. Good Luck, Harry
I’m looking for Matt Saraceno…anybody have his e-mail? He graduated from the University of Oregon after winning the 1998 Collegiate National Triathlete Championship and after he won his age-group at Nationals (18-23?). I’ve heard rumors he did well at World’s in Europe (in his age group), but that is unconfirmed. Supposedly he is residing in San Diego…any help? If you know him or his e-mail, please forward him this post, or send me his e-mail. Much appreciated and thanks in advance. -Jason Vance
Vance- It is afuny thing that you should be looking for Matt, too. I was on the World’s team with him, and yes he did quite well. I believe he placed 12th in the 20-24 race. Much better than my 43rd! Anyways, I recently came across a post card he sent to me after the Worlds. He stayed in Europe with a plan of roaming unitl Christmas sometime. The email address on his postcard is no longer valid. Hence, the search continues. Jeff Z
(PatrickM88) writes: I know that some other folks are using a product called Meabolol Endurance which i believe is also a carbo drink
The neat thing about Metabolol Endurance and a variety of other products that are generically called "weight-gainers" or "optimizers" is that they also contain some protein and, in many cases, fat or MCTs as well. I have no triathlon experience, but know from long bike races and long training rides, that taking in a little protein and fat works well for me. These products make that easy. JT
Hi, I would like to get some feedback on what people use for food/drink during 1/2 ironman and ironman distance triathlons. I’ve heard people talk about fluid only techniques, and if so, what do people use (i.e., Cytomax, PR-powder, Coke, etc). If people use foods, what do they typically eat (i.e., powerbars, GU, bananas, pizza (just kidding))… What would also be helpful is when do people typically eat/drink these things, at transitions, during the bike mostly?… Any help would be appreciated… warren — Warren S. Edwards "No one has any sympathy Dept of Electrical Engineering, Box 352500 for me except Mick" University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 ph: (206) 221-5169 URL: http://icsl.ee.washington.edu/~lucifer/warren.html
I am also interested in this topic . i am doing IME in July and plan on using the Ecaps product "Sustained Energy" ,a carbo drink, on the bike (along with Endurolyte caps for electrolyte replacement ) . I will use Hammer Gel ( in a gel flask) on the run at every other mile. No solid foods .I have tried this in training and it seems to work well . I am told that somewhere between 500-800 calories per hour is necessary on the bike and run to keep from bonking. I know that some other folks are using a product called Meabolol Endurance which i believe is also a carbo drink . I would like to get some feedback on what people use for food/drink – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -during 1/2 ironman and ironman distance triathlons. I’ve heard people talk about fluid only techniques, and if so, what do people use
In the most recent Inside Triathlon there is a full-page ad for a glycerol-containing beverage to allow hyper-hydration. Anyone out there using this product or glycerol in general, and what are the potential problems? Could this potentially throw your kidneys and/or osmolarity of your body out of whack?
I use glycerol in training, and intend to use it in races this year. I use glycerol in bulk, mixing it in water in a ratio similar to that of Glycerate. This enables me to hyperhydrate with about 1.5 liters before the event. Afterwards, I have noticed that I have minor nausea and one urgent bowel movement before training (possibly due to the volume of liquid). Once I had a headache. Otherwise the amount of urination beforehand remains about the same. There is a risk for hypertensives. The benefits include a significantly reduced nead for fluids while working out. I am less likely to crash due to dehydration. Glycerol should not influence the kidneys if you are otherwise healthy. The osmolarity effect is what enables it to increase the water stored outside the blood vessels. There are some questions I still have to sort out, however. Should I add my powdered Exceed to the mix also? If so, how much? Should I use glycerol in my fluids DURING the workout/race? Byron J. Byron Walthall, Jr. Charlotte, NC, USA
Vaughn, a freind of mine used a glycerol product last year during a 1/2 IM and at IMC and said it work great for her. In fact she qualified for IMH. As far as scientific type info, I could not tell you a thing. So it’s obvious, GO FOR IT. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the most recent Inside Triathlon there is a full-page ad for a glycerol-containing beverage to allow hyper-hydration. Anyone out there using this product or glycerol in general, and what are the potential problems? Could this potentially throw your kidneys and/or osmolarity of your body out of whack? Curious, V — Vaughn Cooper Center for Microbial Ecology, Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824 (517) 353-3953/3955 voice/fax
In the most recent Inside Triathlon there is a full-page ad for a glycerol-containing beverage to allow hyper-hydration. Anyone out there using this product or glycerol in general, and what are the potential problems? Could this potentially throw your kidneys and/or osmolarity of your body out of whack? Curious, V — Vaughn Cooper Center for Microbial Ecology, Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824 (517) 353-3953/3955 voice/fax
I would like to be a legend in more than my own living room.
Next weekend we have an ultra iditasport which is 320 miles of self propelled pleasure from big lake, ak to mcgrath, ak. you have to mail yourself food and supplies c/o general delivery to the villages along the route which follows the iditarod dog mushing trail. only 19 entries and the organizer says if half of them finish it was too easy. one of the participants will continue on to nome, attempting to break the self propelled record for covering the iditarod trail – 21 days i think. if you want to be a legend, then why are you entering someone else’s races. try making your own. maybe a swim around the world race. you’d probably be a legend then, assuming the sharks didn’t eat you. maybe you don’t taste appealing, who knows? — Lake & Boswell Consulting Electrical Engineers, Inc. 543 3rd Avenue, Suite 206 Fairbanks, Alaska 99701 VOICE:(907)452-1441 FAX:(907)452-1444
Having done about 50 short triathlons, several marathons, crosscountry ski loppets and an ironman tri, I feel invincible and somewhat unchallenged. The ultra triathlon sounds appealing due its distance and stage format. Are they satisfying as an event? Are there any spectators, recognition, glory, etc? I would like to be a legend in more than my own living room. I’ve heard of Ultraman Canada and Hawaii; are they organized for this year? Is it easier than an ironman as it is divided into stages? Laszlo
Does any one know where or what are the International Olympic participate requirments for the Tri. event. How can I find the info.? — I thank you… (Deep purple). | Ride the Wild wind | |Israel Cycling Mag.| | Hay,Hay,Hay…. | |972-9-571-491 | | (Queen) | |972-3-695-777-8 Fax|
Does any one know where or what are the International Olympic participate requirments for the Tri. event. How can I find the info.?
I will type in verbatim a notice, called Olympic Qualification Criteria, that was circulated to ITU Congress attendees in Cleveland in late August. Here goes. Notes of Meeting with IOC Sports Director, Atlanta, USA The following were in attendance: 1) Gilbert Felli, International Olympic Committee Sports Director; Pere Miro, IOC Assistant Spots Director. (From ITU): 1) Les McDonald, President; 2) Phil Coles, Secretary General; 3) Loreen Barnett, Technical Committee; 4) Patrice Brunet, Constitution Committee. 1) McDonald began the meeting by outlining the factors which ITU was taking into consideration as we prepare the "qualification criteria" for the Triatlon in the Sydney Olympic Games. He began by indicating that ITU was working hard to develop a fair and concise Qualification Criteria for the Olympic Games 2000. To date, the focus of criteria has been:
Might be relocating to the ara . Does any body have info on running and cycling on and off road for the area??? Tpmm {tom ryan}
Tom I live in Reno and have been doin tri’s, runs, mtn. cycling….you name it, for a long time. Anyway we have a great area for workin out and stayin healthy for races. There is a good group of tri-types here…six locals went to Hawaii last year including myself. E-mail me more specific details on what your looking for and I’ll write back. Take care Bill Richards
I am a grad student in exercise science and our lab does testing for the public (VO2 max, lactate threshold, etc). We also give them some general guidelines or training plans based on the results of the tests. Since my background from a training standpoint is mostly running, I feel very comfortable with writing workouts for runners. When it comes to cyclists, I do not have as much confidence. I have been a recreational triathlete in the past, but never trained well on the bike. Could someone suggest good books on training cyclists to use as a reference? We do not try to serve as a coach, but some general, science based suggestions are provided. Thanks You can e-mail me directly or post here, whichever suits your fancy……
One of goals in life is to run in every state of the union and compete in a triathlon in every state of the union. I’m looking for information for these events in North Dakota. I know there’s a triathlon in Fargo, but I’m hoping there’s something going on in the eastern or central part of the state. If anyone knows of any events let me know.
I’m looking for information for these events in North Dakota. I know there’s a triathlon in Fargo, but I’m hoping there’s something going on in the eastern or central part of the state. If anyone knows of any events let me know.
Inside Triathlon had a race listing for the Fargo-Moorhead Triathlon to be held June 22 or 23. Todd Kearney Swim, Bike, Run