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where can i find a neoprene cap for swimming?  i looked at quintana roo’s site and ironman wetsuits? anyone have one they’ll sell me? thanks, jOe

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when do you need it by Joe? Emilio De Soto II www.desotosport.com     "The triathlon clothing company" www.tribuy.com               "buy and sell your own triathlon gear " www.t1wetsuits.com       "The new triathlon wetsuit coming in 2001" Email me for a De Soto Sport free catalog

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where can i find a neoprene cap for swimming?  i looked at quintana roo’s site and ironman wetsuits? anyone have one they’ll sell me? thanks, jOe

World Wide Aquatics has one. Click the link below… http://ssl.worldwideaquatics.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=266 Hope this helps.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMC’99: 10:45:03          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Flipping through an old issue of runner’s world, I came across an advertisement and it shows people dashing out of the water and getting ready to hop on their bikes…the caption says "Can’t do you something the easy way for once?". My question is, how in the world do people change into their clothes/shoes fast enough, eat food, and still not lose that much ground? I’ve always been very curious about triathelons… Thanks in advance! Cathy! whateva4eva ** "I heard the best way to regenerate body heat is to crawl naked into a sleeping bag with someone whos already naked." "Maybe if it rains sleeping bags you’ll get lucky." Remove egetme!

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First, it is triathlon. Second, whether or not one changes clothes depends on numerous factors:         how long the ride is         how comfortable the person wants to be         how competitive the person is         what the person swims in         weather conditions In terms of putting shoes on, most people who are not "competing" will sit down and put on the cycling shoes.  Competitive racers will have the shoes clipped to the pedals (assuming they use cycling shoes). Third, eating depends on several factors         If the race is short, nothing needs to be eaten (maybe a gel)         If the race is longer, you eat on the bike while riding At the elite level, athletes actually practice their transitions.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flipping through an old issue of runner’s world, I came across an advertisement and it shows people dashing out of the water and getting ready to hop on their bikes…the caption says "Can’t do you something the easy way for once?". My question is, how in the world do people change into their clothes/shoes fast enough, eat food, and still not lose that much ground? I’ve always been very curious about triathelons… Thanks in advance! Cathy! whateva4eva ** "I heard the best way to regenerate body heat is to crawl naked into a sleeping bag with someone whos already naked." "Maybe if it rains sleeping bags you’ll get lucky." Remove egetme!

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Flipping through an old issue of runner’s world, I came across an advertisement and it shows people dashing out of the water and getting ready to hop on their bikes…the caption says "Can’t do you something the easy way for once?". My question is, how in the world do people change into their clothes/shoes fast enough, eat food, and still not lose that much ground? I’ve always been very curious about triathelons…

One reason they don’t lose much ground is that all their competitors have to do the same thing. For the couple of tri’s I’ve done, preparation is the key. Have the shoes ready — some use those plastic thingies that slide along the laces so they don’t have to tie them; others use Velcro or some such. Peel as much swim gear off as possible while running to the transition area. And so on. Tri’s are fun. Try one sometime. It’s not my specialty, but it’s a fun change of pace. — Brian P. Baresch Lawrence, Kansas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

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I am looking for good running software on the net.  Can anyone give me a

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Leiria) writes: I am looking for good running software on the net.  Can anyone give me a

I use Ultracoach & like it very much.  Their home page= http:www.ultracch.com/ seeyatmk bradenton,florida http://www.netcom.com/~skee/tmk.html

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I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!!

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I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!!

Have used Runner’s Log and now Runner’s Log Deluxe for about 8 months. Take a look at their site, try a free trial download, and decide for yourself.                    www.pegasus.software.com

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I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!!

A simple program that I use is a freeware program called runstat 3.  It can record and graph anything.  I’ve found it pretty easy to use.  I’m not sure where you can find it I found it trough a web search.  Its made by Scott Diamond. Matt

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Mike, I have recently finished my search and decided to go with ‘RunLog Deluxe’ from Pegasus Software  (and I tested a lot of software in the process). There is a 45 entry trial version available for download from their website… http://www.pegasussoftware.com/ I like RunLog primarily for its simple uncluttered user interface, yet powerful tracking and graphing abilities.  The customizable user fields allow you to track almost anything that isn’t already built into the program. If you want a fairly extensive list of available running software (most have a trial version), check out the Runner’s Web at http://www.sirius.on.ca/running.html — Regards,   Martin Donkers — I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!!

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I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!! Have used Runner’s Log and now Runner’s Log Deluxe for about 8 months. Take a look at their site, try a free trial download, and decide for yourself.                   www.pegasus.software.com

Sorry, Mike, for the wrong address. As  pointed out in another post, the correct address should have been:                www.pegasussoftware.com Steve

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There was something available on the Net called RUNCOACH.  Two years ago a ‘prototype’ was available which was going to be updated.  I haven’t been back to check since but it looked pretty good and seemed to cover the points you’re interested in.  There’s also a similar programme for Triathlon training, which could be adapted for the running.  The advantage of the RUNCOACH was that it had a special ‘coach’ or advice section specifically for running.  Unfortunately I can’t remember where I found either of them – so you might have to do a bit of surfing. S-J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am trying to find a software package that records my runs (training) – including date time weather distance and all other info regarding the run – and will keep track of all info.  if anyone knows of any software pkg like this please let me know!!

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There was something available on the Net called RUNCOACH.  Two years ago a ‘prototype’ was available which was going to be updated.  I haven’t been back to check since but it looked pretty good and seemed to cover the points you’re interested in.  There’s also a similar programme for Triathlon training, which could be adapted for the running.  The advantage of the RUNCOACH was that it had a special ‘coach’ or advice section specifically for running.  Unfortunately I can’t remember where I found either of them – so you might have to do a bit of surfing. S-J

I have a shareware beta version of runcoach available on my website: http://monolith.yawc.net/~jeewee/sports/strak/runco94b.zip Despite promises for later upgrades and windows versions, I never heard of any of these becoming available. Too bad, because the little proggie is very useful, though a little awkward and outdated regarding userfriendliness in these modern times… Cheers JeeWee — Jan-willem ‘If the world doesn’t hurry, I surely will’ Donkers http://monolith.yawc.net/~jeewee/index.html ATTENTION! When replying to mail, please remove NOSPAM from my email address!!!

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The Athlete’s Diary seems to be a useful kind of training log. For a Scandinavian it is however a bit difficult to relate to miles (we always run kilometres over here). Is there an option for switching hidden anywhere?

UltraCoach is configured in metric or English–your call; Vary the sport vary the configuration; For multisport athletes, swim in meters and run in miles, do intervals in meters, etc.  Change the figures on the fly. Check out the features and get a free copy at: http://www.ultracch.com/ Ken Burres

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: Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track : my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… : looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. : thanks,rich PC Coach training software will log all your data, in US or Metric Units. You can also get training advice from professional coaches for Marathon, 10K and Triathlon. Visit http://www.pccoach.com or call 1-800-52-COACH for more info.

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The Athlete’s Diary seems to be a useful kind of training log. For a Scandinavian it is however a bit difficult to relate to miles (we always run kilometres over here). Is there an option for switching hidden anywhere?

I don’t know what capabilities The Athlete’s Diary has, but WinRunLog is a simple running log for Windows 95 that allows the user to log Miles, Kilometers and Marathons. It shows statistics on a per month basis. WinRunLog is Freeware and can be found on my Web page. The URL is in my sig below. — http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/RoyWeinberg

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: Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track : my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… : looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. : thanks,rich PC Coach training software will log all your data, in US or Metric Units. You can also get training advice from professional coaches for Marathon, 10K and Triathlon. Visit http://www.pccoach.com or call 1-800-52-COACH for more info.

Laurel, My preference is the Athlete’s Diary.  It’s more expensive if you decide to get it, but it’s worth trying out the demo version.  I know that they (Athlete’s Diary) has a web page, but you can also download the demo version from WebRunner I think. – Mike Somers

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nifty bit of shareware. —  /~ _____/  40, married, 3 kids, read the Guardian, jog a bit,  / / ____/  drink a bit, laugh a lot, listen to good music.    

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svein,when entering distance type K at the end. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Athlete’s Diary seems to be a useful kind of training log. For a Scandinavian it is however a bit difficult to relate to miles (we always run kilometres over here). Is there an option for switching hidden anywhere?

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My preference is "Wintrainer".  I have been using it for years.  In a search for a better log, I recently sampled all that were out their and concluded that nothing beat what I was using. Warren

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I subscribe to America On line and recently downloaded two running log programs with all the things you’ve mentioned. They also offer graphs and training advice. they are inexpensive and easy to use. One is called On Your Mark the oter is Run Log.On Your Mark has a web page at www.contrails.com/fss

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The Athlete’s Diary seems to be a useful kind of training log. For a Scandinavian it is however a bit difficult to relate to miles (we always run kilometres over here). Is there an option for switching hidden anywhere?

The Athlete’s Diary is completely neutral as to units. When you set up the software, you use the "Sports" window to select your sports. For each sport, you get to select the unit of distance measurement (miles, kilometers, yards, meters, or "units/none") and the unit of pace measurement (min/mile, min/km, mile/hr, km/hr, or none). In the Preferences window, you also are given the choice between "American" dates (month/day/year) and "Rest-of-the-world" dates (day/month/year). Incidentally, in the Sports window, although you are given choices of running, cycling, etc., you can also enter your own. So if running in your language is, e.g., "carrera" (I realize that’s not Norwegian!), you can enter that instead of "running" (or whatever). This feature also allows the user to enter any sport that isn’t in our built-in list (e.g., kayaking). — Steve Patt  Stevens Creek Software  The Athlete’s Diary & Bookstore  WWW: http://www.stevenscreek.com  FTP: ftp.stevenscreek.com  1-800-TA-DIARY

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Rich, Check out RunLog by Pegasus software at:         http://www.pacifier.com/~mshep/runlog/ It’s a very easy-to-use runner’s log that has a calendar based interface.  Calculates paces, weekly and monthly totals, keeps track of all the courses you run, 9 different graphs.  From this web site, you can view the screens online and even download a fully functional 30 day demo. Mike Sheppard Pegasus Software Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

I just tried to answer you – did it get lost..?? ) Here goes again…. One of the place(s) I know is www.wintermute.co.uk. He’s got a list of sports software. Yours, Leif-

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: : The nice thing about a computer program is the ability to manipulate data : like times over a particular course.  That beats thumbing thru a book.   : Computers are useful tools for handling data—hey isn’t that their : function?? : As an alternative, one could create their own using Quattro, Excel or : another spreadsheet program. : I use The Athlete’s Diary and find it acceptable. I’ve written a spreadsheet for Lotus 1-2-3 that keeps track of daily runs, calculates pace, monthly and yearly totals, keeps track of race results, produces graphs, and calculates race times for different paces.  I’ve been using it for four years now and it meets my obsessive needs.  I’d be happy to e-mail it to anyone who wants it (I’ll have to do it from a different internet account so please include your e-mail address in your message) Tim

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i agree,the atlete’s diary is a fantastic program. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why don’t u save $$$ and just keep a 50 cent diary with your statistics. The nice thing about a computer program is the ability to manipulate data like times over a particular course.  That beats thumbing thru a book.   Computers are useful tools for handling data—hey isn’t that their function?? As an alternative, one could create their own using Quattro, Excel or another spreadsheet program. I use The Athlete’s Diary and find it acceptable.

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The Athlete’s Diary seems to be a useful kind of training log. For a Scandinavian it is however a bit difficult to relate to miles (we always run kilometres over here). Is there an option for switching hidden anywhere?

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

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pccoach.com

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Why don’t u save $$$ and just keep a 50 cent diary with your statistics.

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

Here’s a web address for a running oreinted page http://sunsite.unc.edu/drears/running/products/software.html I hope you find it useful Tom

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

Rich: check out UltraCOACH–the #1 athletic training software. http://www.ultracch.com/ Free download of limited edition All details at the site. Runner’s Edition is only $20–fully featured with graphs, interactive workout suggestions, etc. Ken Burres UltraCOACH

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,rich

I have links to several software sites on the WebRunner. Most have a demo you can download and try. http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/software.html Mike Tennent WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Race Calendar FTP Race Apps, FAQ, Download The WebRunner Racing Utilities http://www.webrunner.com/webrun/running/running.html

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Why don’t u save $$$ and just keep a 50 cent diary with your statistics.

The nice thing about a computer program is the ability to manipulate data like times over a particular course.  That beats thumbing thru a book.   Computers are useful tools for handling data—hey isn’t that their function?? As an alternative, one could create their own using Quattro, Excel or another spreadsheet program. I use The Athlete’s Diary and find it acceptable.

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Does anyone know where i can purchase some running software to track my runs with stats for time,pace,mileage,etc… looked in all the stores and here on the ‘net but have found zilch. thanks,richHi Kishman,

YES, YES – as a matter a fact I’m developing such a thingee myself – have been working on it for a couple of years. The best way to get the latest would be to do a search on Yahoo ) But, why not try www.wintermute.co.uk ..?? He has got a list of all available software. see you, Leif

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I’ve been using runlog for the past 2 years and love it… they have AWESOME customer service as well as a great product brian

Me too. Version 4 is very nice. And Mike Sheppard is timely in responding to amy queries. Denny

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If anyone has decent training program that will track runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know

Looked at them all.  In my view best is Runlog from www.pegasussoftware.com. You have to buy it but there is a free demo on the site.  Cost is $45

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Check out The Athletes Log – 2000 (www.athleteslog.com). Does it all, 30 Day Trial Period and $24.95 cost. Ken Barley

If anyone has decent training program that will track

runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know Looked at them all.  In my view best is Runlog from

www.pegasussoftware.com. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You have to buy it but there is a free demo on the site.  Cost is $45

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I’ve been using runlog for the past 2 years and love it… they have AWESOME customer service as well as a great product brian

If anyone has decent training program that will track runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know Looked at them all.  In my view best is Runlog from

www.pegasussoftware.com. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You have to buy it but there is a free demo on the site.  Cost is $45

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Here is a free Microsoft Excel Running Log.  You have to have MS Excel on your computer to use it. http://rvrr.org/free_running_log.html

The free StarOffice, or OpenOffice does about all that the Microsoft product does.

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If anyone has decent training program that will track

runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know

– RunLog, the best there is (get the Deluxe version). You can download the program online, then you just pay for the registration password to make it work "fully." Eli Before you buy.

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If anyone has decent training program that will track runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know

I have used RunCoach as my training log since last year August and I’m very satisfied. Has lots of graphs and reports. Here is as an example, my pace improvement at easy runs (HR average 139, HF training range 133-147): http://www.1a-software.de/~rsz/rsz_easy_runs_pace.pdf What I really like too, is the ability, to create trainingplans, based on my personal data and PRs. Look here, for more informations about RunCoach: http://www.sportscoach.com.au/runcoach.html Cheers, Rudiger [...]

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If anyone has decent training program that will track runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know

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Here is a free Microsoft Excel Running Log.  You have to have MS Excel on your computer to use it. http://rvrr.org/free_running_log.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -If anyone has decent training program that will track runs,mileage,weather etc. Please let me know

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    I like RunLog best of all the programs I have tried.     You can find it at: http://www.pegasussoftware.com/     You can download a sample copy. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joe M

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You do not understand the liberal mind:  If one person is misusing something, it needs to be banned for everyone.  Liberals love to run other people’s lives.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some background here. This is in response to numerous incidents here in Chicago involving bicycle messengers, who have grown increasingly careless, obnoxious, and occasionally murderous, toward pedestrians and drivers in the downtown area. In spite of numerous promises to police themselves, and curb dangerous behavior, they have actually gotten worse. Many incidents involve serious injury to pedestrians, fatal accidents, and the recent murder of a pedestrian. We aren’t talking about the average recreational rider. This is way off topic but the iea of banning cyclists makes my blood boil so bad I can’t resist responding. In San Francisco we have major problems with law-breaking, insane bike messengers too, but I can’t imagine why bicycle commuters should have to pay the price. Why not just enforce the traffic laws and cite the bicyclists with violations when necessary. Or, if someone just has to be banned, ban the lousy messengers, not other cyclists. While messengers are a nuisance and a danger here, the traffic conjestion is paranormal, and constitutes a WAY bigger problem, so bicycling should be strongly encouraged, not discouraged or banned in any city. Jessica

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I suspect that the layout and proximity of work to residence in Chicago severely limits bike commuting in Chicago. It’s flat tanatamount to suicide.

My Brother-in-Law has comuted by bike from Brookfield to downtown (near Washigton & State) for years.  His only real problem has been many, many flat tires due to glass, etc. Jim

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You do not understand the liberal mind:  If one person is misusing something, it needs to be banned for everyone.  Liberals love to run other people’s lives.

Sorry, this has nothing to do with running, but anyway. From Merriam-Webster Online (http://www.m-w.com/): Main Entry: 1lib

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Steve, if I had a dime for every doctor I’ve met who 1) told me to stop running *right now* and never do it again, and 2) at first appeared sympathetic because s/he was a former runner, I’d be wealthy by now. I’ve been hearing this for over 15 years, and I’ve been running for 20. I’ve learned to listen *past* the "stop" advice – a comment on my lifestyle more than my medical condition – to any tidbits they may be able to offer about the specific problem(s) at hand.  Definitely shop around and get other opinions, and don’t think twice about spending some money out of pocket so see someone outside the plan who can really help you. Art Hutchinson IMC 92, 96, 98, 99 IMNZ 99 Bob, I could respect advise like yours (rest it), but that’s not what my docter said. He said running was bad for my knees and hips,  Biking and swimming are ok, but "DO NOT RUN ANYMORE". My knees don’t hurt, my hips don’t hurt, I lost 30 lbs (198 july 97, 169 june 98) since I started running again. Now I haven’t run in 3 weeks (175 lbs now) but I do have 2 different prescriptions and a handfull of free samples.   Steve (going to the podiatrist on monday) Adams

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Sorry that I came into this thread a little late, but I just had to comment on this one.  Being in the medical profession, I’ll admit bias, but I thought a couple things are worth mentioning.  I might agree that the standard general practitioner (read: PCP) is not going to be able to offer much more than telling you to stop doing what is bothering you. This is a gross overstatement, but it may apply.  Before thousands of PCPs start writing me, let me defend myself.  Unless they have taken a particular interest in sports medicine or orthopedics (and I’m sure there are such individuals, it’s just a matter of finding them), they will know primarily the basics. Thus if you haven’t gotten the thorough exam that you require, you might want to see a specialist, or therapist, etc.  Here’s the next problem. Docs aren’t allowed to just order whatever anymore.  A prescription of Naprosyn costs a lot less to the HMO than six weeks of physical therapy. Further, the sports MD that you want to see is almost guaranteed not to be under your HMO plan (it never is that simple).   I understand your comments completely.  I’m a doctor and I needed to see a dermatologist.  I know I needed to see a dermatologist.  I had to make an appointment with my PCP so he could give me the clearance to see the dermatologist.  As if that makes any sense. It’s a strange system that we’re working within, but unfortunately, expect more of the same…. Maybe I could specialize in triathlete medicine….. Nathan  

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Welcome to health care in the 90’s!  I got the same response (runaround) from my HMO PCP when I developed osteitis pubis and related problems.  It took three whining visits to my PCP to even get a referral to an orthopedist whose response was…you guessed it! just don’t do it! (run that is).  Sigh…. Sort of like the old vaudeville joke;  A man goes into his doctor and says, "Doc, it hurts when I do this" (sings his arm at the elbow joint).  Doc says "Well, just don’t do that!"  I think HMOs are the joke and we’re the butt.

Hi Marty, I wonder if you guys are expecting a bit too much of basic primary care? Over here in the UK we have the National Health Service as you probably know, with ‘free’ healthcare. I really don’t think many serious athletes would expect good sports medicine from their family doctor however. Most pay to see someone with specialist expertise. Your insurance based system is working like our NHS in rationing access to specialist medicine. This isn’t a criticism of primary care – sports medicine is just not what it is geared up to provide. There are parallels with aviation medicine, diving etc. — Bob Mortimer

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Posting a note in defense of HMO’s pains me as if I were upholding some policy of the ITU.  Yet, what else can I do when I have had such good experience – so far. Two weeks before I went to Lausanne, having already bought my non-refundable airline tickets, I sprained my back and thought I might be throwing away the whole cost of what was going to be mostly a vacation for two.  I don’t have a general practioner physician because mine retired ten years ago and there hasn’t been an occasion to see one since, so I called the HMO and told them the problem.  They told me to come in same day, rushed me in to see the nurse practioner who made an appointment for later that day with a physiatrist (who used to work on the Knicks’ sore backs) and set me up with six appointments for the physical therapist, bypassing the usual 3 week wait.  I asked if maybe a chiropractor would help also. Sure, six more appointments to be had simultaneously.  All this cost me two $5 bills.  Everyone fixed me up and made me promise to tell them how the race went.   I know orthopods who have told their patients not to move the offending limb, and maybe in the past, one was about to say something like that to me.  I have a very hairy eyeball for that sort of talk, so I think I’ve averted the dreaded and inadmissable advice.  Doctors are not so insensitive not to recognize what advice the patient will accept or reject.  You just have to enter the office with an attitude.   Ruth Kazez

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 I could respect advise like yours (rest it), but that’s not what my docter said. He said running was bad for my knees and hips,  Biking and swimming are ok, but "DO NOT RUN ANYMORE". My knees don’t hurt, my hips don’t hurt, I lost 30 lbs (198 july 97, 169 june 98) since I started running again. Now I haven’t run in 3 weeks (175 lbs now) but I do have 2 different prescriptions and a handfull of free samples.

Sorry Stephen, I wasn’t being clear. I meant that standard medical advice from doctors with little knowledge of sports medicine was to rest. Those of us who either have an interest in sport as participants or as sports medicine specialists (I’m more the former) do see it a bit differently. Certainly running will exacerbate a pre-existing knee problem (as it does for myself) but I certainly wouldn’t put people off running if there was nothing wrong with their knees! I doubt medication will do much other than relieve pain while the problem naturally heals. Speaking personally, if I had plantar fasciitis which was interfering with training I’d go to one of my colleagues and ask for a steroid injection. — Bob Mortimer

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I had a similar experience with my knee some years ago.  The doctors took an xray, determined it wasn’t broken, and told me I was fine. As for the orthotics, most insurance will not pay for them (mine did not).  I went to a podiatrist (and local runner) on my own who did an exam and stride analysis.  He determined a leg length imbalance and an extremely high arch was causing my knee problem.   I was fitted for custom orthotics which helped the problem (still flairs up though). I will say that I was very helpfull to see a doctor who understands runners issues. Dave B. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I just came back from the doctor, I thought I was having a physical. I’m 40 and haven’t had one in a while.  The main thing that motivated me though was foot pain. and I needed ‘permission’ to go to a podiatrist.    Well in my Physical they drew no blood, and did no urine sample. I guess to save the HMO money. and I had to beg to get an appointment with a Podiatrist. I believe I have Plantar-faciaitis and some kind of achillies tenton problem. My Doctor told me to "STOP RUNNING" he said it was bad for my knees and hips. I just want some orthontics made so I can start running again.   Luckily I did get a podiatrist appointment, but what a bunch of BS.  Steve "I havn’t run in over 2 weeks" Adams

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Bob, I could respect advise like yours (rest it), but that’s not what my docter said. He said running was bad for my knees and hips,  Biking and swimming are ok, but "DO NOT RUN ANYMORE". My knees don’t hurt, my hips don’t hurt, I lost 30 lbs (198 july 97, 169 june 98) since I started running again. Now I haven’t run in 3 weeks (175 lbs now) but I do have 2 different prescriptions and a handfull of free samples.   Steve (going to the podiatrist on monday) Adams  

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -tell me about it! i was in last week to get an Rx for physio and/or podiatrist from my PCP who said "oh, running is too tough on your hips, you should find something else. i used to be an avid runner, but now i’m really into wind sailing." huh? last time i checked, there wasn’t a swim-bike-wind sail event around. first he wrote me an Rx for drugs and started talking about surgery? huh? was he paying attention to me? i haven’t broken, ripped, or destroyed anything!  sad that i’m the PATIENT one and he is so eager for a quick-fix drug solution … and assumes that my problem was already in such a grave state as to require cutting. aaarrrrrrggggghhhhh!!! –rebecca, still running …

Welcome to health care in the 90’s!  I got the same response (runaround) from my HMO PCP when I developed osteitis pubis and related problems.  It took three whining visits to my PCP to even get a referral to an orthopedist whose response was…you guessed it! just don’t do it! (run that is).  Sigh…. Sort of like the old vaudeville joke;  A man goes into his doctor and says, "Doc, it hurts when I do this" (sings his arm at the elbow joint).  Doc says "Well, just don’t do that!"  I think HMOs are the joke and we’re the butt. this editorial brought to you by: Marty Carson

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To go off on a tangent, I don’t know where in Canada you’re from, but I live in Ontario. Ambulances: these are not free in the part of Canada I’m from, or at least, a friend of mine was involved in a bike accident a couple of months ago and was sent to hospital in an ambulance. She got a BILL for it later — yes, even in Canada, she had to pay. Physiotherapy: some physiotherapy is free in Ontario but that seems to be limited to things like post-op physio for people who’ve had surgery. I have to pay $35 (cdn) a session for sports physio (the initial assessment costs $55) and the private (supplemental) health insurance that  I have from my employer (supplements the government health care system) pays $15 a session (i.e. less than half). I also need to have a letter of referral from a physician or the insurance company will not pay. My  (bike accident) friend also had physio and that was NOT  covered by the government scheme. I saw a podiatrist a couple of months ago. That cost me $60. Again,  not covered by the government and my private insurance only covered  $15 As to access to specialists, one of my friends (a female varsity cross-country runner  in university) was imjured for about a year and the sports medicine clinic here repeatedly refused to send her to see a foot specialist in the university hospital. Without a referal, the specialists would not see her. I used to live in Quebec, and there specialists will also not see you unless you are referred by another physician – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is similar to something I just encountered.  And let me tell you, coming down from Canada to live in the US (only ’til the doctorate is finished, and then back to my home), the way medicine works in the US was quite a shock.  I was in a semi-serious accident a couple of weeks ago (posted details earlier) and my back was hurting still, so I went to see the Student Health People, wanting to get phyical therapy for my back.  They wouldn’t give it to me, just wanted to push various muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatories down my throat.  Excuse me, did you hear a thing that I said, I want physical therapy so that I can continue TRAINING.  It’s not terribly easy to train with muscle relaxants in the blood stream.  I want even go into the details about getting them to pay my hospital bills.  "Did you get prior approval to be taken away in the ambulance?"  "I was blind in my left eye, having my neck and back immobilized by a policeman and at best semi-conscious, far down on my to-do list was calling a bureaucrat to get permission to be taken to a hospital so that I could know if my skull was fractured."  Never heard anything like this. Walter Strapps

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This is similar to something I just encountered.  And let me tell you, coming down from Canada to live in the US (only ’til the doctorate is finished, and then back to my home), the way medicine works in the US was quite a shock.  I was in a semi-serious accident a couple of weeks ago (posted details earlier) and my back was hurting still, so I went to see the Student Health People, wanting to get phyical therapy for my back.  They wouldn’t give it to me, just wanted to push various muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatories down my throat.  Excuse me, did you hear a thing that I said, I want physical therapy so that I can continue TRAINING.  It’s not terribly easy to train with muscle relaxants in the blood stream.  I want even go into the details about getting them to pay my hospital bills.  "Did you get prior approval to be taken away in the ambulance?"  "I was blind in my left eye, having my neck and back immobilized by a policeman and at best semi-conscious, far down on my to-do list was calling a bureaucrat to get permission to be taken to a hospital so that I could know if my skull was fractured."  Never heard anything like this. Walter Strapps

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tell me about it! i was in last week to get an Rx for physio and/or podiatrist from my PCP who said "oh, running is too tough on your hips, you should find something else. i used to be an avid runner, but now i’m really into wind sailing." huh? last time i checked, there wasn’t a swim-bike-wind sail event around. first he wrote me an Rx for drugs and started talking about surgery? huh? was he paying attention to me? i haven’t broken, ripped, or destroyed anything!  sad that i’m the PATIENT one and he is so eager for a quick-fix drug solution … and assumes that my problem was already in such a grave state as to require cutting. aaarrrrrrggggghhhhh!!! –rebecca, still running …  I just came back from the doctor, I thought I was having a physical. I’m 40 and haven’t had one in a while.  The main thing that motivated me though was foot pain. and I needed ‘permission’ to go to a podiatrist.    Well in my Physical they drew no blood, and did no urine sample. I guess to save the HMO money. and I had to beg to get an appointment with a Podiatrist. I believe I have Plantar-faciaitis and some kind of achillies tenton problem. My Doctor told me to "STOP RUNNING" he said it was bad for my knees and hips. I just want some orthontics made so I can start running again.   Luckily I did get a podiatrist appointment, but what a bunch of BS.  Steve "I havn’t run in over 2 weeks" Adams

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   Well in my Physical they drew no blood, and did no urine sample. I guess to save the HMO money.

I wouldn’t like to comment on your plantar fasciitis (or whatever it is!) but speaking as a UK general practitioner I’d just like to support your doctor’s decision not to start doing blood/urine tests on an otherwise healthy (probably in the top centile for age, health wise!) 40 year old. There’s very little evidence to support any kind of ‘general check ups’ in healthy adults, anyway, but sticking pins in people … The odd blood pressure measurement perhaps, but some might even take issue with that. A standard response to any kind of sports related injury is the ‘rest it’ advice – I think if you really want the best advice you need to seek the help of a practitioner with expertise in sports medicine. Other options being orthotic devices as you say (although I’ve no idea if they work), steroid injections and physio (probably ultrasound or similar). HTH … — Bob Mortimer

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It’s okay to RUN, not walk–now–as fast as you can to another doctor. This ‘practitioner’ is a piece of work.  There are a number of critical test that should be performed at your point in life, especially if it has been some time since you’ve been checked out.  Trust me on this one. You may (also) have a problem with your HMO, but from what you’ve stated, the biggest is with the Primary you’re dealing with. AJ Calabrese http://augie.calabrese.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I just came back from the doctor, I thought I was having a physical. I’m 40 and haven’t had one in a while.  The main thing that motivated me though was foot pain. and I needed ‘permission’ to go to a podiatrist.    Well in my Physical they drew no blood, and did no urine sample. I guess to save the HMO money. and I had to beg to get an appointment with a Podiatrist. I believe I have Plantar-faciaitis and some kind of achillies tenton problem. My Doctor told me to "STOP RUNNING" he said it was bad for my knees and hips. I just want some orthontics made so I can start running again.   Luckily I did get a podiatrist appointment, but what a bunch of BS.  Steve "I havn’t run in over 2 weeks" Adams

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 I just came back from the doctor, I thought I was having a physical. I’m 40 and haven’t had one in a while.  The main thing that motivated me though was foot pain. and I needed ‘permission’ to go to a podiatrist.    Well in my Physical they drew no blood, and did no urine sample. I guess to save the HMO money. and I had to beg to get an appointment with a Podiatrist. I believe I have Plantar-faciaitis and some kind of achillies tenton problem. My Doctor told me to "STOP RUNNING" he said it was bad for my knees and hips. I just want some orthontics made so I can start running again.   Luckily I did get a podiatrist appointment, but what a bunch of BS.  Steve "I havn’t run in over 2 weeks" Adams

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<< 1) i have gotten some responses to my querstion about what kind of bike to get (big thank you to everyone who responded).  but, of course, i have more!  when i go to check out my future bike is there anything i should look for in particular (like handle bars, tires, seat, etc)?  is there a certain standard or requirement that the bike must meet in able to be used in a tri.  i will be using the bike for solo practice and competition around the southeast (no big mountains).  are there any questions that i should be sure to ask the salesperson? No standard or requirement for tris.  In the typical triahtlon you will see everything from mountain bikes and old Schwinn Varsity models to expensive road bikes and bikes set up especially for triathlon. However, you should read some issues of Inside Traithlon and/or Triathlete to see what the popular bikes are and how they are set up.  If you poll triathletes, you’ll find all sorts of opinions as to what bikes, bars, pedals, tires, etc. are best.  Rest assured that to start a decent but not expensive road bikes with tri bars and clipless pedals will work just fine. (Bridgestone, Trek, Specialized, etc.) That’s what I rode for seven years of racing until this year when I bought my Quintana Roo Te Quilo. (Others may have opted for Softride, Litespeed, Flet or many other tri-bikes.)  In any case, go to a bike shop that deals with racing bikes–especially time trial/triathlon bikes.  They are likely to steer you straightest. <<2) are there any good resources in terms of nutrition while training, particualry foods that can be packed in "a brown bag lunch"?  i am a college student and eat most of my meals between classes and practice, so cooking, even microwaving, is inconvenient.  i am a vegetarian–no meat, no cheese, some shrimp and scallops, no nuts, lots of yogurt (in my opinion, the mostperfect food!), and some legumes.  i am also a recovering anorexic, so high calorie foods aer hard for me.  lots of food throughout the day, as opposed to 3 meals, is a lot easier to handle. Others can do a better job of answering this than I can, I’m sure.  I do know, however, that five smaller meals a day are preferrable to three bigger ones. –Tri-Hard (a.k.a Lee Crumbaugh)

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hi everyone!   i have 2 quick questions to ask:  1) i have gotten some responses to my querstion about what kind of bike to get (big thank you to everyone who responded).  but, of course, i have more!  when i go to check out my future bike is there anything i should look for in particular (like handle bars, tires, seat, etc)?  is there a certain standard or requirement that the bike must meet in able to be used in a tri.  i will be using the bike for solo practice and competition around the southeast (no big mountains).  are there any questions that i should be sure to ask the salesperson? 2) are there any good resources in terms of nutrition while training, particualry foods that can be packed in "a brown bag lunch"?  i am a college student and eat most of my meals between classes and practice, so cooking, even microwaving, is inconvenient.  i am a vegetarian–no meat, no cheese, some shrimp and scallops, no nuts, lots of yogurt (in my opinion, the mostperfect food!), and some legumes.  i am also a recovering anorexic, so high calorie foods aer hard for me.  lots of food throughout the day, as opposed to 3 meals, is a lot easier to handle.   thanks again you guys! i have learned a lot from this group already.  i have especially enjoyed the links to web pages and the openess and humor everyone seems to have. "i believe in the sun–even when it is not shining.  i believe in God–even when he is silent.  i believe in love–even when i don’t feel it."   –unknown

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For what it is worth, here are my answers. 1. Bike. The only real requirements are that the bike be conventional (not a recumbent). I have seen everything from mountain bikes still caked in mud to fully-custom carbon fiber frames. Typically, seems that the average triathlete (i.e., the most common equipment at a race, not the most common among serious triathletes or RST’ers) uses a conventional frame with conventional drops and aerobars and clipless pedals. Beyond that, most of the serious triathletes (NOT all) use cowhorn handlebars rather than drops, and bar-end or gripshift shifting laced into the aerobars–lets you shift without moving your arms. Many prefer frames designed for time trialing, with steep seat tube angles. Note that I’m generalizing. Buy what works for you, and take the time to discern what that is before you buy. I have met some really good triathletes who use conventional geometry bikes and STI shifters (Shimano’s all-in-one brake levers and shifters), which are pretty heavy. There are some interesting combinations of gear in Steve’s web site (www.netaxs.com/~steves) in the triathlon section. 2. Nutrition. I’d suggest that you go to a sports or nutrition store and try different foods. I like gels like Powergel and Gu,  or Clif Bars. (The Clif Bars are all natural. They also make an all-natural gel call Shot which I have not tried.) This is really individual; some RST’ers are no doubt getting ill at the thought of ingesting a gel as they read this, but I love ‘em. All are good during exercize, I just have trouble eating anything solid during the event. Otherwise, I’d just add bananas to your list. Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi everyone!   i have 2 quick questions to ask:  1) i have gotten some responses to my querstion about what kind of bike to get (big thank you to everyone who responded).  but, of course, i have more!  when i go to check out my future bike is there anything i should look for in particular (like handle bars, tires, seat, etc)?  is there a certain standard or requirement that the bike must meet in able to be used in a tri.  i will be using the bike for solo practice and competition around the southeast (no big mountains).  are there any questions that i should be sure to ask the salesperson? 2) are there any good resources in terms of nutrition while training, particualry foods that can be packed in "a brown bag lunch"?  i am a college student and eat most of my meals between classes and practice, so cooking, even microwaving, is inconvenient.  i am a vegetarian–no meat, no cheese, some shrimp and scallops, no nuts, lots of yogurt (in my opinion, the mostperfect food!), and some legumes.  i am also a recovering anorexic, so high calorie foods aer hard for me.  lots of food throughout the day, as opposed to 3 meals, is a lot easier to handle.   thanks again you guys! i have learned a lot from this group already.  i have especially enjoyed the links to web pages and the openess and humor everyone seems to have. "i believe in the sun–even when it is not shining.  i believe in God–even when he is silent.  i believe in love–even when i don’t feel it."   –unknown

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I need some opinions from the seasoned veterans.  I am into my 3rd season of triathlon/biathlons this year … and my question is about cramps.  In the past I have NEVER had any problems with cramping during running or biking.  During my past two events I have had severe cramping in my calves during the bike segment (usually during the last few miles of the bike ride). I have not changed my training or diet during this time.  I am stumped and frustrated.  Does anyone have any ideas or comments? Thanks, Andrew

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need some opinions from the seasoned veterans.  I am into my 3rd season of triathlon/biathlons this year … and my question is about cramps. In the past I have NEVER had any problems with cramping during running or biking.  During my past two events I have had severe cramping in my calves during the bike segment (usually during the last few miles of the bike ride). I have not changed my training or diet during this time.  I am stumped and frustrated.  Does anyone have any ideas or comments? Thanks, Andrew

 I had a calf cramping episode for a few weeks this summer during some long training sessions.  My conclusion was to address three issues: 1. hydration- really pushed the fluids  2. sodium- increased my sodium intake a little  3. magnesium- also increased this mineral intake.   I think hydration is the most important, but I have had no problems since training in the florida heat/humidity. seeyatmk bradenton,florida

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I have been told by the doctor seven weeks ago not to run because I have a stress fracture in my distal tibia and fibula. Today the doctor said I could start running slowly. But I my ankle still hurts when I’m on my feet for a long time. I asked him about this but he didn’t give me a satisfactory answer. Has anyone else had this experience? ulku

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Today the doctor said I could start running slowly. But I my ankle still hurts when I’m on my feet for a long time. I asked him about this but he didn’t give me a satisfactory answer. Has anyone else had this experience? ulku

I’ve had stress fracture areas that were still sensitive to direct finger pressure, after allowing the 6 weeks to heal.  I limited my runs to 3-5 miles/day for the 2 weeks or so that it took to completely go away.  I don’t know if it has to do with the lining of the bone, or what.  Rubbing the spot(s) with an ice cube several times a day should help. Frank

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I have been told by the doctor seven weeks ago not to run because I have a stress fracture in my distal tibia and fibula. Today the doctor said I could start   running slowly. But I my ankle still hurts when I’m on my feet for a long time.   I asked him about this but he didn’t give me a satisfactory answer. Has anyone   else had this experience?

i have had stress fractures to the tibia and my only advice is to listen to your body.  the associated discomfort can persist for a very long time (many months).  besides taking a long time to heal fully, it can mess with your mind… e.g. not always second-guessing yourself and not running for fun. i’ve been told that calcium deposits near the fracture can rub on tissue.  not sure how much truth there is to this. also remember that there is probably an underlying cause.  if you don’t have a good podiatrist (e.g. one who runs) get one and get good orthotics. other than that the only advice i can give is to cycle and swim… i did last time i had stress fractures.  now i’m a triathlete and i can stay in fantastic shape on 20 miles per week running. my 2 cents. Art Hutchinson

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I had a stress fracture of the tibia. I ran with it for about 10 months, including the NY Marathon. It took about 1 year to completely heal and even after that it still hurt at times. I believe the best advice is to not run for at least 6 weeks. Try running in water as an alternative if possible.

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I have been told by the doctor seven weeks ago not to run because I have a stress fracture in my distal tibia and fibula. Today the doctor said I could start running slowly. But I my ankle still hurts when I’m on my feet for a long time. I asked him about this but he didn’t give me a satisfactory answer. Has anyone else had this experience?

Stress fractures result when bone is subjected to repetitive strains without sufficient time in between these sessions for which the bone can heal itself. First, microfractures develop, then they proceed to frank fractures. The pain experienced is bone pain. In such instances it probably or almost certainly originates from the outer covering of bone, the periosteum. Usually, to my knowledge, stress fractures in younger persons heal themselves in 6 weeks or so. Sometimes the bone pain can persist for many weeks or months, however. Jim Bastian

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I had a stress fracture of the tibia. I ran with it for about 10 months, including the NY Marathon. It took about 1 year to completely heal and even after that it still hurt at times. I believe the best advice is to not run for at least 6 weeks. Try running in water as an alternative if possible.

I have a large database of information on bone pain and on the effectiveness of injectable calcitonin to reduce or cure non-malignant bone pain. In instances of long-standing bone pain from stress fractures, in my opinion, there is a good possibility that treatment with salmon calcitonin, by daily injection, for one or more months may result in a complete recovery from pain. The dosage I recommend is 100 IU/day. Problems are high cost and the fact that this is not an FDA-approved indication. Also, while there are many publications which pertain to relief of bone pain with calcitonin, almost none involve stress fractures in athletes. I’m a Ph.D. pharmacologist and was involved in the 70’s in the commercial development of calcitonin for use in humans. Please note, I am not an M.D., therefore, take my advice for what it’s worth. Jim Bastian

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been told by the doctor seven weeks ago not to run because I have a stress fracture in my distal tibia and fibula. Today the doctor said I could start   running slowly. But I my ankle still hurts when I’m on my feet for a long time.   I asked him about this but he didn’t give me a satisfactory answer. Has anyone   else had this experience? i have had stress fractures to the tibia and my only advice is to listen to your body.  the associated discomfort can persist for a very long time (many months).  besides taking a long time to heal fully, it can mess with your mind… e.g. not always second-guessing yourself and not running for fun. i’ve been told that calcium deposits near the fracture can rub on tissue.  not sure how much truth there is to this. also remember that there is probably an underlying cause.  if you don’t have a good podiatrist (e.g. one who runs) get one and get good orthotics. other than that the only advice i can give is to cycle and swim… i did last time i had stress fractures.  now i’m a triathlete and i can stay in fantastic shape on 20 miles per week running. my 2 cents. Art Hutchinson

Dear Stress Fracture runner: You can do a lot 1. Deep Water Running with shoes–try it 2. Get a TENS unit or muscle stimulator unit to enhance bone growth by electrical energy 3. Be sure it has healed–you can get the fracture injected with BMP to speed it up 4. simulators–versaclimber and stepper 5. bike 6. progressive stim and stress with machines–experience PT Thanks, Ken Burres MD

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I am a 29 year old female, mother of a 1 year old boy who has had a dream to compete in a triathlon for a number of years. I have an extensive background in physical education and elite sport (coaching).  In my Undergraduate days in University I ran varsity cross country, and was seriously training for a triathlon when I suffered a stress fracture in my hip. It has been eight years since I did any serious training… I have moved 4000 miles away from my training buddies. I am looking for someone to act as a motivational training partner for me through through the internet.  Someone who also has a dream to compete in a triathlon and would like some support.  X

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I am looking for someone to act as a motivational training partner for me through through the internet.  Someone who also has a dream to compete in a triathlon and would like some support.  X

I would like to hear more about what you are looking for.  Do you want to do comparable mileages?  Give us some details.   Ruth Kazez

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