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Nice job Paul.  Just learn some freestyle, get some "slick" tires (no tread) for your MTB and you will be ready to make a nice improvement.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve just done my first sprint tri (500m / 20k / 5k) ( woohoo !!). Hopefully this post will be of interest to other people leading up to their first … Overall it went really well, I haven’t had the official times but my split is something like 20 / 56 / 29 which I’m pleased with. My goal was to finish without dying, and as I’m typing this, I must have acheived it, in fact I ran one of the best 5k times I’ve ever done. At the finish I felt great, not breathless, not in pain, just great. The swim went fine, it was an outdoor pool swim, and was pretty cold (no wetsuits), and I did breastroke. Important note – when you enter your first race, make sure you put a realistic swim time, so you aren’t first out with all the freestylers who will hate your breastroke. I was in the right group, a few people passed me, but overall I kept with the pace, and came out of the pool in one piece. As I came out of the pool and ran to the transition I got a real buzz, loads of people clapping and cheering as I ran along, now it felt like a real triathlon, not just another training session. Into T1, took plenty of time getting dry, getting changed, putting on my hrm and off I went. Two things worried me about the bike leg. Firstly, that I was on a mountain bike and everyone else would be on

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A friend of ours needs to rent a bike case for Vineman. She’d be able to pick it up in pretty much any location between L.A. (Westside) and Palm Springs. This is a very reliable person: the only reason we aren’t lending her our own case is that we’re off to Lake Placid at the same time. Kindly reply via e-mail to: …if you have a case to rent or *specific* information on a source. Thanks very much. — "nospam" is a defense against spam: http://Lee-Gruenfeld.com

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if you have a case to rent or *specific* information on a source.

Try Edge Cyclesport in Laguna Hills.  They have cases to rent and Hank the owner is a great guy. 949-472-9497 Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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where does one go on the internet to get the results of triathlons? i’m particularly interested in obtaining the results of the canadian iron man triatholon.  thanks in advance. cajunman

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Try http://www.ironman.ca/live98/index.html for a blow-by-blow account. Bob Williams 55-59 Severna Park, MD

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Hi;  This was my first year applying for a lottery spot and was not selected. I am curious to know how many years it took for any of you to get lucky in the lottery?  One triathlete I know told me it took him 10 years to get in!  For all of you have waiting and got in, Congratulations!!!   Kim  

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Hi;  This was my first year applying for a lottery spot and was not selected. I am curious to know how many years it took for any of you to get lucky in the lottery?  One triathlete I know told me it took him 10 years to get in!  For all of you have waiting and got in, Congratulations!!! Kim

My first attempt this year also. No go! I guess I will be sending in for nine more years along with you. Congrats to all that made it.   Alan

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I didn’t get in either. This was my first year as well.  I had a blast for 4 months though training and dreaming.  There is always next year.  Congrats to all the lucky winners! James – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi;  This was my first year applying for a lottery spot and was not selected. I am curious to know how many years it took for any of you to get lucky in the lottery?  One triathlete I know told me it took him 10 years to get in! For all of you have waiting and got in, Congratulations!!! Kim My first attempt this year also. No go! I guess I will be sending in for nine more years along with you. Congrats to all that made it. Alan

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Shucks, shucks, shucks. No luck for me either…Been sending it in for years. I did get there in 1991 though, so at least I’ve had a shot. Best, Mark

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Shucks, shucks, shucks. No luck for me either…Been sending it in for years. I did get there in 1991 though, so at least I’ve had a shot. Best, Mark </PRE</HTML

So do some people PAY for their slots?  Does that happen?

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I suppose you mean with money? What about training really hard and qualifying through merit? Does that count as paying? — Phil Squire Going for it in Roth 98. http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/pstri.htm ICQ 11599162 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Shucks, shucks, shucks. No luck for me either…Been sending it in for years. I did get there in 1991 though, so at least I’ve had a shot. Best, Mark </PRE</HTML So do some people PAY for their slots?  Does that happen?

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Made it my first year.  Nothing since.  4 years!

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This was my tenth year in the lottery and I have never been picked.

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Curious question to ask. The "odds" of getting selected in any particular year are not effected by having entered in previous years. That is, those who entered the lottery for the first time this year had the same odds as someone who had entered every lottery for 10 years. They are independent acts, like flipping a coin. The previous flip has no effect on the next. Each flip is 50/50. The only thing for sure:  if you didn’t enter – you weren’t selected. Mike "TriBop" Tennent http://www.gate.net/~wbrunner/ WebRunner Running My Model Railroad ‘98 Ironman Canada IronVirgins Site

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RST, Overall, I enjoyed the IMH coverage. How could NBC/IMH possibly leave out BOTH the mens/womens #3 overall finishers (Lothar/Fernanda)??!! Can someone explain this to me……. Trap

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its called ratings, its called advertising $$$. i too, am dissapointed the #3 spots were not featured, but thats big network business.  something most of us "non network type" will never understand unless we work in the industry. at least IMH got coverage, which is improving each year.  nothing will be perfect in everyones eyes. the exposure was good for our sport.  if we wanted frothy details we will check out QR Coverage, etc. NBC gave an entertaining overview which allowed non triathletes to get a good idea what our sport is all about.  instead of a bunch of twisted, odd athletes…we are normal people too, with goals, careers, lives, famlies and hardships. kudos to NBC for a job well done.  they earned a solid "B" in my book.

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Overall, I enjoyed the IMH coverage. How could NBC/IMH possibly leave out BOTH the mens/womens #3 overall finishers (Lothar/Fernanda)??!! Can someone explain this to me…….

Not only that, but the #5 man, Cristian Bustos, was stiffed, too. It looked to me like the content of the show was locked down during the pre-production phase, and when the race didn’t follow the script, the producers didn’t respond.  Since the producers seemed determined to use the pre-produced segments — *possibly* because of sponsorship commitments — Paula and Natascha were made the stars of the show in so far as they could be, and Heather and Laurie were given secondary coverage. At least twice, the women’s winners were described as unknowns.  This non-sequiter struck me as an attempt to excuse the otherwise skimpy coverage. Heather and Laurie are very well known to anyone who follows triathlon.  Paula and Natascha are, unfortunately, about as unknown as Heather and Laurie as far as the rest of the world is concerned. This type of pre-production "lock" is common, and excusable to a degree, during live coverage of events.  It shouldn’t happen during a completely post-produced, scripted program like the IMH broadcast. That said, I agree with the overall assessment that this was a very good and very enjoyable program, particularly given the challenge of maintaining my interest in a race that I’ve already "seen" — thanks again QR Man and everybody else who provided such great internet coverage. I think I’ve discovered the best way to watch the program.  It aired at 1 pm in the Bay Area, where I’m spending the weekend, so I taped it and went on a long bike ride up Mt. Diablo and back around to Walnut Creek.  When I got back, I loaded up a plate with bagels and turkey sandwiches, popped opened a bottle of my favorite complex carbohydrate-enhanced carbonated beverage, and sat back to watch with the remote control in my hand and my thumb hovering over the fast forward button.  It was an outstanding end to an already very good day. Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win."  R.A.H.

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I was wondering if anyone has done two ironmans in the same year. I was thinking about doing Vineman in July and trying to qualify for Hawaii in October. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to recover quick enough to do both ironmans? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Zach Giegel

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I was wondering if anyone has done two ironmans in the same year. I was thinking about doing Vineman in July and trying to qualify for Hawaii in October. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to recover quick enough to do both ironmans? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Zach GiegelZach

The best advise is that the better you prepare for a race the faster your recovery time. Having a full time job will not help (if you have one) but some one doing 25km swimming – 500km biking – 90km running will recover more quickly than someone doing half this amount. Other factors include your diet and massage therapy. I hope this helps. Jason Vaught

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Having been the victim of the almost the situation you describe, perhaps I can offer some insight.  I completed my first ironman, the vineman, in late july of 96, and then did the Great Floridian triathlon in late october of 96.  There were about 3 months in between.  In hindsight, my training was slightly sub-par in regards to the running bit, but that goes without saying.  Except for some stomach problems, i had a good vineman.  The floridian sucked, I died early on the run.  From this, I came to conclude that, in addition to lots of training, one needs lots of rest after an ironman.  I mean lots.  I was up and training at a good volume within three weeks, but there is always some residual fatique that was there.  I didn’t fully discover how much I was still torn down until I experienced the stress of another race.  A six or seven hour training day does not stress you the way a 11 or 12 hour race does, and as a consequence, you can’t know how much the first race is still affecting you.  Others are right, the better shape you are in, the faster you will race and the faster you will recover…but, you need to be careful.   There is not much time between the vineman and hawaii, but if I qualified, I’d be there in an instant!  but my mindset would be different than it would at the vineman.   hope that helps, mike

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Zach, I read your message and there is a guy here in Ft Wayne that did 2 Ironman races last year. He qualified at IMC then turned around and went to Hawaii. Both of his races were I consider respectable times. Under 11 hours on both. Then he went onto New Orleans for a marathon in Jan and finished around 3 hours. Just one well gifted athlete. Mark

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The grant awarded to Steven Locke’s campaign was meant as seed money. Fund raising has been occuring and thus far $20,000 has been raised from individuals on both the domestic and international fronts. None of the original $25,000 of USAT money is being used in the campaign. Steven Locke was asked by the USAT Board of Directors to run for the ITU office. If you know him at all, you will know that he doesn’t have an ego that demands he pursue power positions. He is just a hard working, consciencious, and honest person who has treated USAT as a business and because of that the organization is financially successful. USA Triathlon

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Did Less by any chance spend his formative years in Chicago, learning under Mayor Daley? Just curious, Chuck Berghoefer

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Mark Sisson is a citizen of the USA       Mark Sisson is a resident of Los Angeles              Mark Sisson is a member of USA Triathlon (once he was even its Executive Director) Mark Sisson never lived in Mexico         Mark Sisson was never a Mexican citizen                 Mark Sisson now claims he’s a member of the Mexican Triathlon Federation and its candidate for ITU Treasurer! Les McDonald wanted Mark Sisson to stay on as ITU Treasurer for another four years.  Under the ITU Constitution, Mark needed his home federation (USA Triathlon) to nominate him. In February of this year he asked USA Triathlon for the nomination. By unanimous vote of its Board of Directors, USA Triathlon turned him down. Les McDonald wasn’t to be deterred so easily. Les had two of his associates on the ITU Executive Board write to Dr. LeRoy Walker, President of the United States Olympic Committee, lamenting USA Triathlon’s refusal to nominate Mark. Dr. Walker, to his credit, told ITU to mind its own business. By some mysterious process, Mark has now resurfaced…wearing a Mexican sombrero! He’s spreading the word that he’s become a member of the Mexican Triathlon Federation, and has now received their nomination over USA protests to be ITU Treasurer! Forget that under the ITU Constitution what Mark says he has done is outlawed. That doesn’t seem to bother Les McDonald. Forget that Mark is still a USA Triathlon member. And forget that the whole thing is a sham and maybe worse. Meanwhile, Mark is letting it be known that he’s looking to find dirt on the USA Triathlon directors/staff for denying him the nomination in the first place. If you are outraged as we are at this hokus-pokus, help us do something about it. USA Triathlon has asked the Court of Arbitration for Sport (IOC supported) to rule Mark’s nomination invalid. If you have a vote (delegates only to the ITU Congress) at the upcoming ITU elections in Cleveland, use it to bring creditability and honesty back into the sport. If you don’t have a vote, let your federation know how you feel about Les McDoanld, Mark Sisson, and this type of behavior. USA Triathlon refused to nominate Mark Sisson as ITU Treasurer for a lot of good reasons. Now you have seen for yourself just one reason why. USA Triathlon

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This is unbelievable.  Ten years ago I would have said that Sisson would have gone on to become a real, honest, positive force in this little triathlon world…why has this happened?  Is his living at stake?  Is there some power (getting good seats at the Opening Ceromonies in Sydney as an athletic federation official?) issue?   Maybe it’s time he puts his side forward once again. Mark ("Follow the money….."  DeepThroat, 1972)

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I am no more outraged about Mark Sisson’s behavior than I am about USA Triathlon giving a grant of $25,000 to Steven Locke so that he can serve his own self ego.  Let’s be real,  that is the annual dues of 2,500 members. Do you think that they want USA Triathlon to spend their money for this purpose. What about getting some US races on TV or getting triathlon to be a true college sport.  A better idea might be to pay the uniform or entry fee of $230.00 for the Team USA  members at the ITU World Championships.  I have been in this sport for almost a decade and have found mostly self serving individuals taking charge.  Why not have the President of ITU be some retired guy like Stoney Mayock.  He is an honorable man who has already done enough in his life to not worry about an ego. See you in Cleveland, Doug Marocco Mark Sisson is a citizen of the USA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      Mark Sisson is a resident of Los Angeles             Mark Sisson is a member of USA Triathlon (once he was even its Executive Director) Mark Sisson never lived in Mexico        Mark Sisson was never a Mexican citizen                Mark Sisson now claims he’s a member of the Mexican Triathlon Federation and its candidate for ITU Treasurer! Les McDonald wanted Mark Sisson to stay on as ITU Treasurer for another four years.  Under the ITU Constitution, Mark needed his home federation (USA Triathlon) to nominate him. In February of this year he asked USA Triathlon for the nomination. By unanimous vote of its Board of Directors, USA Triathlon turned him down. Les McDonald wasn’t to be deterred so easily. Les had two of his associates on the ITU Executive Board write to Dr. LeRoy Walker, President of the United States Olympic Committee, lamenting USA Triathlon’s refusal to nominate Mark. Dr. Walker, to his credit, told ITU to mind its own business. By some mysterious process, Mark has now resurfaced…wearing a Mexican sombrero! He’s spreading the word that he’s become a member of the Mexican Triathlon Federation, and has now received their nomination over USA protests to be ITU Treasurer! Forget that under the ITU Constitution what Mark says he has done is outlawed. That doesn’t seem to bother Les McDonald. Forget that Mark is still a USA Triathlon member. And forget that the whole thing is a sham and maybe worse. Meanwhile, Mark is letting it be known that he’s looking to find dirt on the USA Triathlon directors/staff for denying him the nomination in the first place. If you are outraged as we are at this hokus-pokus, help us do something about it. USA Triathlon has asked the Court of Arbitration for Sport (IOC supported) to rule Mark’s nomination invalid. If you have a vote (delegates only to the ITU Congress) at the upcoming ITU elections in Cleveland, use it to bring creditability and honesty back into the sport. If you don’t have a vote, let your federation know how you feel about Les McDoanld, Mark Sisson, and this type of behavior. USA Triathlon refused to nominate Mark Sisson as ITU Treasurer for a lot of good reasons. Now you have seen for yourself just one reason why. USA Triathlon

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How many miles is a 5k run?   Diane

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3.1 miles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How many miles is a 5k run? Diane

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Go to http://www.french-property.com/ref/convert.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How many miles is a 5k run? Diane

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Exactly the distance from my house to my mum’s. One day…

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Thanks Guys, appreciate the support! I’ll let you know how it goes! Helen Tor,Ont

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No ,  Why? feel do or don’t do at all Listen you lowlife dogbreath  donkytail pigbellie littleleg nerd. You lower then a grub with the bends. greekgal   take it slow.  In my opion you do not need to go to any events yet. give yourself some time to get in shape. and allso backack old fartsniffing pervert catlicking hairballI am sucklife geek. who was talking to you anyway. Sure 5 hours 25 minutes for a flat 26.2mile marathon is not 3 hours and 25  minutes. allso  2 hours and  40 min. for a trail 13.1 mile trail-only a goat could love.’ or 2 hours and 10 min on a KISS,

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Wow  What rock fell on my head. Hope you din’t take this the wrong way, Do what  you want. greekgal.   KISS,

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No then who to say living in a winter wonderland. KISS,

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There’s a 5k coming up mid september…    Do you think I have enough time to be able to run it fully at present I can’t do very much, maybe 1 km non-stop

Hi, GG, If you’re asking if you have time to get ready to run the entire distance, I’ll leave the response to the more experienced folks. If you’re asking should you do the 5K event, YES! I’d suggest starting at the back of the pack and give the rabbits <G a clear path. There will probably be a lot of nice people at the back. I’m very (!) slow and I enjoy the events. It’s a totally different kind of run than training runs. I suggest running a while and walking a while. It really is OK. The 5K events where I felt some perverse need to run the entire way produced times that were much worse than the events where I ran for a while and walked for a while. I’ve gotten to the point where I run most of the way but it’s come after a period of time (not counting my first sprint triathalon several days ago where I mentally bonked, big time). The real advantage, in my opinion, of doing an event is the participation. Go fer it, Layne

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a 5k coming up mid september…    Do you think I have enough time to be able to run it fully at present I can’t do very much, maybe 1 km non-stop Hi, GG, If you’re asking if you have time to get ready to run the entire distance, I’ll leave the response to the more experienced folks. If you’re asking should you do the 5K event, YES! I’d suggest starting at the back of the pack and give the rabbits <G a clear path. There will probably be a lot of nice people at the back. I’m very (!) slow and I enjoy the events. It’s a totally different kind of run than training runs. I suggest running a while and walking a while. It really is OK. The 5K events where I felt some perverse need to run the entire way produced times that were much worse than the events where I ran for a while and walked for a while. I’ve gotten to the point where I run most of the way but it’s come after a period of time (not counting my first sprint triathalon several days ago where I mentally bonked, big time). The real advantage, in my opinion, of doing an event is the participation. Go fer it, Layne

I would agree with that. The race experience is vastly different from training and hugely enjoyable wherever you finish. I was very worried before my first race that I’d embarrass myself in some way (memories of school sports) but once you’ve been applauded by the race Marshall at the first corner who knows the sweat on your brow is there through honest effort and hard work, no matter how long it took to reach that corner, all those fears melt away. If you don’t think you can run all the way then don’t try. Run some, walk some and stay within your limits until close to the end. Then pick it up a little if you like and finish feeling tired but strong. If you are worried that the talent level in your race will be too strong, search the net for results from last year. Odds are your worst estimate for a finish time will get you home with people around you still. charlie

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There’s a 5k coming up mid september…    Do you think I have enough time to be able to run it fully at present I can’t do very much, maybe 1 km non-stop

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Sure, just run/walk it. Lots of people do that at races. — David (in Hamilton, Ont) "You can’t burn out if you’ve never caught fire." http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html –

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What worked for me getting 5k times down : lots of 100 & 400 metet sprints & hill runs

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What worked for me getting 5k times down : lots of 100 & 400 metet sprints & hill runs

Sounds great to hear.  That is pretty much what I do, but I found that some leg exercises out of the book "Explosive Running" help on the hills.

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Hey,     I’m 15 and I run a lot of 5K’s in Cross-Country.  I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how I can improve my existing times without running so much that I develope injuries, which has been my hurdles in the past.  Thank you for responding.

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Hi, Book : So You Want To Be A Sprinter by, Bud Winter he gives great drills to increase stride length and turnover knee lift and arm action- useable by any runner -we all need speed distance doesn’t matter – look they run 4:30’s in marathons today and your race this olympics should be run at or under 4:00 pace Bud had John Carlos – Tommie Smith – Lee Evans- and on seems forever was Great Coach. E-mail me if you can’t find copy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey,    I’m 15 and I run a lot of 5K’s in Cross-Country.  I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how I can improve my existing times without running so much that I develope injuries, which has been my hurdles in the past.  Thank you for responding.

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Hey,    I’m 15 and I run a lot of 5K’s in Cross-Country.  I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how I can improve my existing times without running so much that I develope injuries, which has been my hurdles in the past.  Thank you for responding.

It’s hard to know what to suggest without knowing what you are doing now, but I would recommend that your training include:         some light weights, particularly to strengthen your most often injured parts         One long run (60 to 90 min) per week         Two days of higher intensity running (hilly fartlek, tempo run… etc.) per week         *Easy* (slow and short) runs in between, and one day off per week. The recovery should allow you to work hard on the hard days without injury.  Those hard days will improve you performances, but only if you recover between them. Good luck

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I hope I’m not bursting any bubbles, but while Jerry Garcia *sung* that line, Robert Hunter *wrote* the line.  (Robert Hunter is the lyricist for the Dead, and has been for more than 30 years.) -frank —   1 212 559 5534  | languages should program in lambda calculus or   1 917 992 2248  | machine language, depending.   1 718 746 7061  |                     — Andrew Koenig

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snip…  well what does that have to do with triathon?  well as much as jerry garcia  does.   snip… He was supporting us from the start.

i stand corrected.  but did you know this other connection of jerry garcia to triathlon? 1) he had a song called darkstar (i think) 2) darkstar is the default prompt used on the linux operating system 3) linux developed through Internet 4) rst is on internet maybe it is too early to be doing this.  this sort of "how do we pass the time until next season starts" has been going on in rec.sport.college.basketball for some time, but i should probably wait till after Ironman for this group! frank

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snip…  well what does that have to do with triathon?  well as much as jerry garcia  does.  

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He was supporting us from the start. |       Ray Plotecia            | |       Image Control           |

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What I’d like to do is to develop a more formal intercollegiate "league," if you will. I know there are other college tri- clubs out there (Auburn, where are you?), many of which receive funding from their respective student governments. The problem so far has been locating and making contact with them. I’m hoping the net can help resolve this. If you are a member of one of these clubs, please contact me.

What a fantastic idea.  As the official representative for Auburn (BTW, you wouldn’t stand a chance againt us – just to disabuse you of any notions that there is a better tri-team out there…)  we would definitely be interested.  We have discussed this idea in the past for our clubs annual race – Wet n Wild.  We talked about it with Georgia, Clemson amd Mississippi but nothing ever became of it. There would be lots of planning needed and general rules to be made but we are enthusiastic about the idea.     intercollegiate "league," if you will. I know there are other college tri- clubs out there (Auburn, where are you?), many of which receive funding from their respective student governments.

Funding from student government?  Are you serious?. We couldn’t even get a decent write-up in our newspaper for an event that brought over 300 triathletes from the South.  Maybe we need to talk about how to get student funding instead of this race idea… Actually, this could start a new type of triathlon, much along the lines of many other Olympic sports, such as gymnastics and cycling. There could, in fact, be an individual triathlon, and on another day, a team triathlon (similar to team time trials in cycling, where it is the performance of the everyone on the team that counts). Hell, even permit drafting in the team event (there’s a potential solution to those racers who insist on drafting). After all, it is a team event.

It’s possible, but not very likely.  I can only speak for our club, but the majority of people wouldn’t be interested in a race where there was drafting.   It is way too dangerous.  Most of us at one point or another participated in a CAT III race with the cycling club, crashed in a heap with ten other cyclists and vowed to never be stupid enough to enter a cycling race again.  These details could all be hammered out by a representative of each team via e-mail, though.   As a matter of fact, Acey, I nominate you president of the newly formed (as of right now) Body of University Triathalon Teams (BUTT).  I’ll help get in touch with other schools and we can have an informal e-mail conference call in, say, the beginning of October. As for any netters from other schools…  where are you? To reiterate Acey’s point, if there are any ideas from ANYONE out there, PLEASE, LET US KNOW. Jeff Holmes Founder of BUTT  (just kidding) Oh yeah, I still haven’t seen an answer to the "pee during an ironman" question…    

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As for any netters from other schools…  where are you?

Out here at U of M throwing tests onto the net…

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As for any netters from other schools…  where are you? Out here at U of M throwing tests onto the net…

Here at Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada hanging out with the Eskimos just wishing that the weather were still warm enough to have a tri … I’m expecting the snow to fly any day now.  

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