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Sebastian Coe and Self-Delusion on The End of British Rule of Running

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He’s over at rec.sports.triathlon these causing the same scene that we dealt with earlier. I guess sales are down. You’re right, it is rubbish. — David (in Hamilton, Ont) "You can’t burn out if you’ve never caught fire." http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jon, will you quit posting the same rubbish with a slightly revised first couple of paragraphs every couple of months – we’ve already done this article to death here. Just go read the archives and imagine you have something new to say.

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we’ve been thru’ this here before. less than a couple of months ago. jobs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this

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Jon, will you quit posting the same rubbish with a slightly revised first couple of paragraphs every couple of months – we’ve already done this article to death here. Just go read the archives and imagine you have something new to say. — Regards, Barry Running & Stuff: http://distancerunner.tmfweb.nl "The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have training logs to keep; and miles to run before I sleep".

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I will be most obliging. ****** 9 August 2001 The End of the British Empire: Why a Brit (Black or White) Will Never Again Hold a Distance Running Record By Jon Entine When the gun goes off for the men

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon » Effects of very short interval training and VO2max

Effects of very short interval training and VO2max

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You may also checked our website in the tip page and the article called "quest for speed". This has been investigated by a french physiologist (veronique billat) for runners, and we have adapted it to triathletes. You can download it as a .pdf file or .html (it is pretty long, as I wanted to explain the interest from a theoretical point and say what you should do in practice…) hope this helps — Francois Modave, PhD Triathlon Coaching and Consulting http://www.competitionzone.com 69/643 Pine Ridge Road runaway Bay, QLD 4216 Australia Tel: int + 61 7 5594 9386

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I was doing some late night reading lately and came across a nice article on very short, high intensity interval training that I thought everyone here might enjoy. Super interesting. Kinda follows up on some of the stuff Peter Keen and Boardman came across while working on the hour record. Check out http://www.sportsci.org Look at article titled "Effects of High Intensity Intermittent Training on Endurance Performance" Enjoy Seth Moore

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I was doing some late night reading lately and came across a nice article on very short, high intensity interval training that I thought everyone here might enjoy. Super interesting. Kinda follows up on some of the stuff Peter Keen and Boardman came across while working on the hour record. Check out http://www.sportsci.org Look at article titled "Effects of High Intensity Intermittent Training on Endurance Performance"

You know what…  that really is damn interesting.  Tends to spit in the face of conventional wisdom — probably why I found it so interesting.  Time to head for the track …  the hills take care of the bike (we’ve got a LOT of them around here)…  and intervals are the only way I’ve ever trained in the water. Thanks for the reference. — Mark

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was doing some late night reading lately and came across a nice article on very short, high intensity interval training that I thought everyone here might enjoy. Super interesting. Kinda follows up on some of the stuff Peter Keen and Boardman came across while working on the hour record. Check out http://www.sportsci.org Look at article titled "Effects of High Intensity Intermittent Training on Endurance Performance" You know what…  that really is damn interesting.  Tends to spit in the face of conventional wisdom — probably why I found it so interesting. Time to head for the track …  the hills take care of the bike (we’ve got a LOT of them around here)…  and intervals are the only way I’ve ever trained in the water. Thanks for the reference. — Mark

One word: MADISON

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One word: MADISON

ahhh yes the ever fun Madison workouts, talk about short duration, high intensity workouts…do a madison for 80 to 100 laps. Dave

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What is a Madison?

One word: MADISON ahhh yes the ever fun Madison workouts, talk about short duration, high

intensity workouts…do a – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – madison for 80 to 100 laps. Dave

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What is a Madison?

Madison: Named for New York’s Madison Square Garden, this most storied of track events is a race for teams of two riders that can last anywhere from less than a hundred laps to six days!  Run as a points race, teams are made up of a rider in the competition and a relief rider.  Both riders stay on the track surface at all times, but the relief riders circulate slowly above the stayer’s line that divides the track or hang on the rail until they are called upon to replace their tiring partner, the exchange taking place in the form of a "hand-sling" that accelerates the slower rider into the fray. This is a National Championship, World Championship, and Olympic Event. On a typical 333 track the exhange happens about every lap and on a 250 about every lap and a half, depending on what is being set up for the points sprints. you can view an exchange here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/apr01/madison/sling.shtml and here done by RBR’s own Shuan Wallace (whom I have had the pleasure of riding as a partner with) and Gene Samuels http://www.fixedgearfever.com/FacesOfTrackRacing/s.htm

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon » Beta Testers Needed for new RST online reader

Beta Testers Needed for new RST online reader

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Hello, I have been developing an online news reader for rec.sport.triathlon. It is a fully functional online version of a MS Outlook etc. I am looking for 5-6 people to beta test it for me. It is live and I am using it to post this message. If anyone is interested please let me know at Thanks….Rob Walters

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We have had a few responses so let me know. Thanks…….Rob Hello, I have been developing an online news reader for rec.sport.triathlon. It is a fully functional online version of a MS Outlook etc. I am looking for 5-6 people to beta test it for me. It is live and I am using it to post this message. If anyone is interested please let me know at Thanks….Rob Walters

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Last test message and we are going to open it up to the beta testers. Hello, I have been developing an online news reader for rec.sport.triathlon. It is a fully functional online version of a MS Outlook etc. I am looking for 5-6 people to beta test it for me. It is live and I am using it to post this message. If anyone is interested please let me know at Thanks….Rob Walters

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Ironman Triathlon » Squish! Sweat in shoes (help!)

Squish! Sweat in shoes (help!)

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This is an easy one … don’t wear shoes or socks!!! Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Sorry, I should have told you that my name isn’t Abbebe Bikila…. Mike E. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is an easy one … don’t wear shoes or socks!!! Mike I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I believe this problem was discussed before (a couple weeks ago) so you might want to use Deja.com to look at these old messages.  I’m not sure what people suggested (I do remember someone suggesting a funnel device which attach to your calves which redircts the flow of water around your shoes … not very practical, though!!). Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry, I should have told you that my name isn’t Abbebe Bikila…. Mike E. This is an easy one … don’t wear shoes or socks!!! Mike I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E.

I also get Squishy shoes here in Chattanooga, when I run more than 5 miles or so. I wear cool-max socks, and on long runs I make sure they fit good and are realitivly new. My shoes get just as wet but the socks stay in place. Rick

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Mike wrote in part ….My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions?

On a long run in hot weather, my shoes get so wet, people have actually asked me if it’s raining outside.  Once during Grandma’s marathon, I stopped and took my socks off and wrung them out!  For the last couple of years, I have been wearing Ultimax Ironman Triathlon socks and although my shoes still get soaking wet, no sock bunching or blisters. Jim

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Thanks, I should have searched!!! It looks like I either wear funnels, go barefoot, or keep squishing! Thanks, Mike E. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe this problem was discussed before (a couple weeks ago) so you might want to use Deja.com to look at these old messages.  I’m not sure what people suggested (I do remember someone suggesting a funnel device which attach to your calves which redircts the flow of water around your shoes … not very practical, though!!). Mike Sorry, I should have told you that my name isn’t Abbebe Bikila…. Mike E. This is an easy one … don’t wear shoes or socks!!! Mike I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree

Well, your socks  _are_ going to be soaking wet and your shoes wet and smelly if you run under those conditions! By running in bare feet, the sweat from your feet will naturally disperse, and the wetness and discomfort from sodden socks and smelly shoes will be a thing of the past.  It doesn’t take long to accustom yourself to running barefoot.  It’s more comfortable than running in shoes, you have more control, and it’s healthier for you. Try it.  You might like it. Andrew Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I am training for a 1/2 marathon at the end of a 1/2 ironman tri in September here in Florida.  I am up to 9-10 miles in 85 degree weather (don’t worry, I carry plenty of water, incorporate water stops, and maximize my shade).  My problem is that my socks and shoes are squishing with sweat towards the end of a long run. This causes my socks to bunch up and creates blisters. I’m not sure what else I could do short of stopping & changing socks.  Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike E. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon Bike » She who hesitates…

She who hesitates…

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   I would love to have one or two of the old style Jetstream bottles! The new models just don’t fit as well on my bike.  Anyone know where I can find some yet?

My wife had the same problem and switched to the Profile drink system.  It works great.  Very stable and easy to set up. Gary McMurtrey Inland Inferno Triathlon Club http://members.aol.com/infernotri/home.htm

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: You guys got trumped. I had a breakfast date. ….and what are we…watered down latte?  Sheesh!  ;-)

Don’t ask a question you don’t want to hear the answer to. : Rick "Maybe next week" Denney Saturday, 7:00am, same bat place, approximately 30 bat minutes….

I’ll try again. Jason "the run was much shorter than originally planned";

Somehow that doesn’t surprise me. Rick "But it could just as easily have turned into a 30-miler" Denney

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did you find a jetstream Tricia?  I have a new one burt only one.  let me know thanks,  dc.

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…misses out on the great deals in the Colorado Cyclist summer catalog. I hemmed and hawed just a little too long, and now they’re sold out of the ‘98 Carnac Diagonals that they had on sale for $130!!!  OUCH!  Not only that, but they’re sold out of the Jetstream RX’s, too.  These were apparently the old style Jetstreams, before they got all fancy with that *stupid* "NXT" aero shaped thing that won’t stay put in your aero bars. :( So now I ask all ye out in RST land:  Anybody know where I could pick up either of these two items?  Anywhere?  I saw that Triathlete Zombies also has the Diagonals on sale, but alas, they have only two (miniscule) sizes left.  Now that I’ve missed this great opportunity, I’m determined that I *must* get a pair of Diagonals.  I’m not particularly keen on the looks of Carnac’s ‘99 line.  And my Jetstream is 4 years old and showing its age. Any leads, anyone? — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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I’m not particularly keen on the looks of Carnac’s ‘99 line.

You should see the new old stock TRS’s I just bought from an RST gentleman. Purple. Not purple accents, but purple everything. But, when you are size 48 and the price is right, fashion must be compromised. Rick "Jason would be proud" Denney

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In article I’m not particularly keen on the looks of Carnac’s ‘99 line. You should see the new old stock TRS’s I just bought from an RST gentleman. Purple. Not purple accents, but purple everything. But, when you are size 48 and the price is right, fashion must be compromised. Rick "Jason would be proud" Denney

Whoa! Any other sizes available? Like maybe 43.5? What’s to compromise? Isn’t everybody about sick of black/yellow anyway? cheers, Andrew — Andrew Peabody/Karen Fisher Coconut Grove, FL

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Darn,     I would love to have one or two of the old style Jetstream bottles! The new models just don’t fit as well on my bike.  Anyone know where I can find some yet? Jim. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …misses out on the great deals in the Colorado Cyclist summer catalog. I hemmed and hawed just a little too long, and now they’re sold out of the ‘98 Carnac Diagonals that they had on sale for $130!!!  OUCH!  Not only that, but they’re sold out of the Jetstream RX’s, too.  These were apparently the old style Jetstreams, before they got all fancy with that *stupid* "NXT" aero shaped thing that won’t stay put in your aero bars. :( So now I ask all ye out in RST land:  Anybody know where I could pick up either of these two items?  Anywhere?  I saw that Triathlete Zombies also has the Diagonals on sale, but alas, they have only two (miniscule) sizes left.  Now that I’ve missed this great opportunity, I’m determined that I *must* get a pair of Diagonals.  I’m not particularly keen on the looks of Carnac’s ‘99 line.  And my Jetstream is 4 years old and showing its age. Any leads, anyone? — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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: You should see the new old stock TRS’s I just bought from an RST : gentleman. Purple. Not purple accents, but purple everything. But, : when you are size 48 and the price is right, fashion must be : compromised. : Rick "Jason would be proud" Denney *gasp* Rick….fashion must NEVER be compromised! Jason, who gave the neon green singlet a spin this morning…where were YOU Rick???

You guys got trumped. I had a breakfast date. But, after two weeks of lethargy, and six weeks on the road so much that swimming was impossible, a lake swim followed by a 16-mile run did not appeal. Rick "Maybe next week" Denney

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlon » THERE HAS BEEN A BIRTH!

THERE HAS BEEN A BIRTH!

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There has been a birth.   The details must wait until I get back from a weekend trip.  Suffice to say the child is doing well. If anyone is going to be in Bethany Beach, DE for the Make-A-Wish Triathlon, look me up, and I will explain it all. Eric Weiss

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I was there.  Bummer I haven’t been checking RST that often lately. By the way, congratulations. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There has been a birth.   The details must wait until I get back from a weekend trip.  Suffice to say the child is doing well. If anyone is going to be in Bethany Beach, DE for the Make-A-Wish Triathlon, look me up, and I will explain it all. Eric Weiss

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Ironman Triathlon » Most popular Bikes at Ironman Hawaii? Very Important!

Most popular Bikes at Ironman Hawaii? Very Important!

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Hi guys. I haven’t posted here in a while because…well, because I am slack and haven’t done a triathlon in over a year and a half.  But, now I have a request for a friend, due to a recent bike incident.         Seems he was on his way back from the NC Triathlon in Raleigh, NC, and a truck in front of their Ford Explorer lost a retread.  Anyway, they couldn’t avoid it, and the tire went under the Ford and ripped the bike rack off the back of the truck, taking his Kestrel with it.  The frame is cracked and the wheels are bent beyond repair, and the estimate is more than the cost of a new bike, so he is in the market for a new bike.         Just to get an idea of what is out there, he would like to know what the most popular bikes at the Ironman were this year.  I know that Triathlete magazine usually gives a rundown, and I thought that QR Man might know, as well.  If anybody has this information or any other kind of rundown, he would be very appreciative, as he will be looking to make a purchase as soon as possible to get ready for two more races this season.  Posts or e-mail are fine…I will check the group.         In the meantime he will be riding my Cannondale (same cranks, same seat, same Airstrykes, but no STIs or aero wheels..it’ll do in a pinch).  Hey, maybe this is a good thing….this might be my bike’s only chance to see what its like at the front of the pack :) . Any help is appreciated. Brad W.

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QRMan has written articles on bike popularity for the last severl years. They are available on the Quintana Roo web page: http://www.rooworld.com I seem to recall a lot of popularity for suspended bean bikes last year. Non-suspended beam bikes seemed to be on the decline. 650c bikes are on the rise, and steep seat angles are also on the rise, unless I’m not remembering properly. Trek was still the most popular bike, but was bucking the trend, and in my opinion held the position solely because their bikes are just so common among all riders. Cannondale seemed to be losing ground, as I recall. I’d like to see how the bikes compare among the various categories and age groups. Do older riders prefer a particular kind of bike than younger riders? Do pros with unlimited budgets (at least for bikes) choose differently than amateurs looking for more value and versatility? These questions are not answered, but QRMan, to his credit, doesn’t skew his interpretations to favor his own products (at least not much). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi guys. I haven’t posted here in a while because…well, because I am slack and haven’t done a triathlon in over a year and a half.  But, now I have a request for a friend, due to a recent bike incident.    Seems he was on his way back from the NC Triathlon in Raleigh, NC, and a truck in front of their Ford Explorer lost a retread.  Anyway, they couldn’t avoid it, and the tire went under the Ford and ripped the bike rack off the back of the truck, taking his Kestrel with it.  The frame is cracked and the wheels are bent beyond repair, and the estimate is more than the cost of a new bike, so he is in the market for a new bike.    Just to get an idea of what is out there, he would like to know what the most popular bikes at the Ironman were this year.  I know that Triathlete magazine usually gives a rundown, and I thought that QR Man might know, as well.  If anybody has this information or any other kind of rundown, he would be very appreciative, as he will be looking to make a purchase as soon as possible to get ready for two more races this season.  Posts or e-mail are fine…I will check the group.    In the meantime he will be riding my Cannondale (same cranks, same seat, same Airstrykes, but no STIs or aero wheels..it’ll do in a pinch).  Hey, maybe this is a good thing….this might be my bike’s only chance to see what its like at the front of the pack :) . Any help is appreciated. Brad W.

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Sport Triathlon Wiki » Triathlete » Weight Gain Record

Weight Gain Record

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Are there sex and original weight categories?  

How about age-group…  I am +9 lbs, 35-39 John Welch IMC ‘97  - What have I done?

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Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? 323 till Great Floridian!!

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: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Grrr…and I expected to be the new winner peaking at a high of 13….darnit.  Funny thing is, I’m doing the highest milage I ever have right now (for the last 8 weeks!) and it’s not coming off.  This is pretty odd…. — Jason Mayfield, Arlington VA Persist, Persevere, Deny, Pursue, Pain, Survive, Ignore, Endure, Strive, Laugh, Cry, Live, Prevail, Scream, Sweat, Bleed, Sustain, Learn, Ascend, Give, Get, GO!   261 Days Until Ironman Canada ‘97

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: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Grrr…and I expected to be the new winner peaking at a high of 13….darnit.  Funny thing is, I’m doing the highest milage I ever have right now (for the last 8 weeks!) and it’s not coming off.  This is pretty odd….

Isn’t that just the WORST, Jason?  I’ve been experiencing the same thing over the past year, and I just don’t get it.  And the next person who tells me "Oh, it’s all muscle" is gonna get clocked! Grrr! Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "REAL Triathletes don’t draft!" http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~brooksie        

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Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? 323 till Great Floridian!!

Now here is a record I would like to go for and one I can really sink my teeth into!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Grrr…and I expected to be the new winner peaking at a high of 13….darnit.  Funny thing is, I’m doing the highest milage I ever have right now (for the last 8 weeks!) and it’s not coming off.  This is pretty odd…. Isn’t that just the WORST, Jason?  I’ve been experiencing the same thing over the past year, and I just don’t get it.  And the next person who tells me "Oh, it’s all muscle" is gonna get clocked!

"Oh, it’s all muscle." Now, go on and clock me. Go ‘head, gwan. Maybe you can swing by after IMC next summer and give it a go. I figger I’ll be better able to duck and weave after you’ve done the race. Grrr!

Oh, my. Perhaps I’ve been too hasty. No fair swinging by before the race. Darryl Parry            | "As Canadian as possible,                         |        - E. Heather Scott http://www-crewes.geo.ucalgary.ca/~parry/caperr.html

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: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys???

Grrr.. I can’t even win in this competition. No matter how hard or how little I train, or how much or little I eat, I’ve been between 64 and 65 kg now for over ten years. Hell, I can pig out through an entire christmas period at my parents and not put on weight (but there’s no room in the fridge dear, so just finish that pie off, and have another beer.) Clydesdales – at least you get some lasting physical sign of the good times you’ve had. Me? All that food may as well have not happened. And to really twist the knife my girlfriend insists my legs aren’t ‘meaty’ enough. Hee hee. Where’s that chocolate vending machine? Joel — Royal Observatory Edinburgh     Web  : http://www.roe.ac.uk/jswww/ Edinburgh                       Phone: +44 (0)131 668 8100 EH9 3HJ                         Fax  : +44 (0)131 668 1130 UK

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? 323 till Great Floridian!! Are there sex and original weight categories?  I think I can win the female non-Clydesdale category hands down. Upon returning from my trip to Atlanta this summer I promptly put on 9 pounds and this was DURING the season!  However, I did manage to take a few off and I keep yo-yoing (+/- 4 lbs) – hovering DANGEROUSLY close to Athena/Female Clydesdale.  I hate turning down a challenge – I am sure that if I can put on 9 pounds while training about 12-14 hours a week (and 2 years ago I gained 5 pounds while training for a marathon!) it should be no problem whatsoever to gain 14 during the off-season!  Hell I probably put on 3 lbs in the past 24 hours from making (eating) cookies! YUM. -hug

Are these the kind of cookies where you eat more dough than you bake???

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Upon returning from my trip to Atlanta this summer I promptly put on 9 pounds and this was DURING the season! [snip] I hate turning down a challenge – I am sure that if I can put on 9 pounds while training about 12-14 hours a week (and 2 years ago I gained 5 pounds while training for a marathon!) it should be no problem whatsoever to gain 14 during the off-season!  Hell I probably put on 3 lbs in the past 24 hours from making (eating) cookies! YUM.

You guys can hang it up! I’ve put on 20 lbs. since I shifted from my own training to coaching youth soccer in August. While I haven’t been doing 12-14 hours a week during that time, neither have I been totally idle. OK, almost, but not totally. Chris ps. I’m not proud of this, but… Hey! A challenge is a challenge. Christopher N. Baucom Systems Analyst Triathlete Dad Soccer Coach – NCYSA "E" License (& sometimes Player) Rock ‘n Roll "Vocalist" (I hesitate to say "singer") Not neccesarily in that order…

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writes: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? 323 till Great Floridian!!

Are there sex and original weight categories?  I think I can win the female non-Clydesdale category hands down. Upon returning from my trip to Atlanta this summer I promptly put on 9 pounds and this was DURING the season!  However, I did manage to take a few off and I keep yo-yoing (+/- 4 lbs) – hovering DANGEROUSLY close to Athena/Female Clydesdale.  I hate turning down a challenge – I am sure that if I can put on 9 pounds while training about 12-14 hours a week (and 2 years ago I gained 5 pounds while training for a marathon!) it should be no problem whatsoever to gain 14 during the off-season!  Hell I probably put on 3 lbs in the past 24 hours from making (eating) cookies! YUM. -hug

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: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Grrr…and I expected to be the new winner peaking at a high of 13….darnit.

Tied you.  Mid August 175….Mid October 189!!  Started back and am now running about 20 miles, riding 40 (inside) and my swim workout consisits of taking a long shower.   STILL 189. Lets commeserate with cookies and beer. –Eric "More to Love" Weiss

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: Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody : top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be : unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? Grrr…and I expected to be the new winner peaking at a high of 13….darnit.  Funny thing is, I’m doing the highest milage I ever have right now (for the last 8 weeks!) and it’s not coming off.  This is pretty odd….

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk…Jason…your going to get up to my weight range soon!  I wish they had a clydesdale division in the IM.. Now, I’m up to 220 from my slender weight of 212 at IMC…but I’ve got bronchitis for the 4th week and it’s limiting my efforts to prepare for my February Marathon.  (I just ran 12.5 yesterday and felt like &^%$#.)  You know, I had a 1.5 week illness in September with stomach pains and intestinal problems.  I’ve never been this sick this long before in my life.  I think IMC sucked the life out of me.  Still got alot of time to prepare, no mental collapse yet…still think I can get up to my planned levels of 1 mile swim, 50 mile bike and 1/2 marathon by Jan 1. It’s hard to get my heart in this training, knowing I could possibly lose a lung if I get to involved. JMersinger

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OOOH…  I’ve got a REAL shot at this title (Weight Gain Record).  Can we use aggregate numbers over three and a half years? 1992 – - 188 lbs. 1993 (195 lbs. and a borderline "Clyde") — I was basking in arrogance at never having been injured, no matter how recklessly I trained.  Net result:  five months off with a case of industrial strength ITB. 1994 (205 lbs. full-fledged "Clyde") — Tried to recover the lost half-year by training for a "low – key marathon".  Net Result: Plantar Fasciitis – - both feet; feet were screwed up for over a year. 1995 (230 lbs.) Parenthood – - enough said.  Don’t get me wrong – - I had so much fun being a dad that I lost sight of my fitness.  I still can’t put in the same amount of time training, but life is fuller. 1996 (210 lbs. lost 20 lbs. to date)  Back on the wagon.  Major objective is to be down to 195 for Gulf Coast Tri and ramble accross in about 5:45.00. How the mighty have fallen…  I now know it can happen to anyone.  At 185 lbs., I was a fairly fast Clyde (2:15.00 Olympic, one IMH, one GFT finish).  I hope to be out of the running for this title in 1997!

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Well lets hear those numbers for winter weight gain so far. Can anybody top 14??? I’m always up for a challenge, but this one may be unsurmountable this year. How many days till St. Anthonys??? 323 till Great Floridian!!

It’s a necessary thing…for me it’s one of those things that stokes the early season training desire.  BTW, I’m at 10#–with the Christmas Holidays right around the corner! 8 months, 16 days to IMC ‘97. Augie Calabrese                  GO EMORY EAGLES CROSS COUNTRY  <<<

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OOOH…  I’ve got a REAL shot at this title (Weight Gain Record).  Can we use aggregate numbers over three and a half years? 1992 – - 188 lbs. 1993 (195 lbs. and a borderline "Clyde") — I was basking in arrogance at never having been injured, no matter how recklessly I trained.  Net result:  five months off with a case of industrial strength ITB. 1994 (205 lbs. full-fledged "Clyde") — Tried to recover the lost half-year by training for a "low – key marathon".  Net Result: Plantar Fasciitis – - both feet; feet were screwed up for over a year. 1995 (230 lbs.) Parenthood – - enough said.  Don’t get me wrong – - I had so much fun being a dad that I lost sight of my fitness.  I still can’t put in the same amount of time training, but life is fuller. 1996 (210 lbs. lost 20 lbs. to date)  Back on the wagon.  Major objective is to be down to 195 for Gulf Coast Tri and ramble accross in about 5:45.00. How the mighty have fallen…  I now know it can happen to anyone.  At 185 lbs., I was a fairly fast Clyde (2:15.00 Olympic, one IMH, one GFT finish).  I hope to be out of the running for this title in 1997!

This all makes me look like a sissy.  8 pounds is all i can claim.  does it count if i feel like it’s 30?!?

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AARRRGGGHHHH….I hate this subject because it strikes too close to home. Like Jason and others, I do alot of workouts, but this time of year is full of hiddden calaries and I can feel it every day.  We get used to being able to eat alot during the outdoor/good weather  days and now….yikes!  An observation that I’m sure I am not alone in…it gets MUCH harder trying to take the weight off after you get into those late 30’s-early 40’s. I try to do a LONG run and a LONG (90 minutes straight freestyle 5000+ meters last week) swim once a week to try to ward it off, but it’s tough. And now they’ve built a new Dunkin Donuts shop across the street from the pool! The horror, the horror! Best, Mark (Hey…Happy Holidays to everybody!)  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – AARRRGGGHHHH….I hate this subject because it strikes too close to home. Like Jason and others, I do alot of workouts, but this time of year is full of hiddden calaries and I can feel it every day.  We get used to being able to eat alot during the outdoor/good weather  days and now….yikes!  An observation that I’m sure I am not alone in…it gets MUCH harder trying to take the weight off after you get into those late 30’s-early 40’s. I try to do a LONG run and a LONG (90 minutes straight freestyle 5000+ meters last week) swim once a week to try to ward it off, but it’s tough. And now they’ve built a new Dunkin Donuts shop across the street from the pool! The horror, the horror! Best, Mark (Hey…Happy Holidays to everybody!)

happy holidays and cheers Sam

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Seek schedule of triathlons in sydney and melbourne…

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Are you the same Paul from Australia that qualified for Hawaii 92 in Canada??  If it is you, you also sold me your Zipp wheel.   Marco and I are planning a trip to down under Dec 22- Jan 8.  We hope to do some training over there, specially biking since it will be winter in NY at the time. Do you have any suggestions as to where we should go so we can have fun and get our training in?  Suggestions on hotels, etc are welcome. Also any news on any events happening over that period? THanks a lot

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hello. does someone have as close as possible a set schedule of triathlons/biathlons in the sydney/melbourne area for december 27-january 12? if not where might i get that? i need to get some things going if i can get that info. thanks john

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hello. does someone have as close as possible a set schedule of triathlons/biathlons in the sydney/melbourne area for december 27-january 12? if not where might i get that? i need to get some things going if i can get that info.

Dear John, I wrote to you a while back with some info for the Melbourne area. I have since uncovered some info about the Sydney region too. Sorry I did not back, it has been sitting in my diary since. Once again, the tri calendars are still in beta version so you will need to check with the relevant governing bodies. My pre-release calendar showed a race or two in both states at that time of year. You need to contact: MELB: Triathlon Victoria, PO Box 960, Mount Waverley, Victoria, 3149       Phone: +61 3 803 8800       Fax: +61 3 803 8800 SYD:  Triathlon NSW, PO Box 112, Manly, NSW, 2095       Phone: +61 2 976 2444       Fax: +61 2 977 1797 Hope this helps. Drop me a line when you are in town or e-mail me before departure and I will give you my phone number. Happy Training!! Melbourne, AUSTRALIA             snail-mail: PO Box 4340, Parkville, Vic 3052

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I agree with Rolf. I ride with bike racers (aka "bikies") twice a week at lunch.  It’s a good speed workout and sure beats going out head-down-and-solo. I encourage folks to give some bike races a try.  I’m a "top 3rd" finisher in an international distance tri and I can go out and win the typical local "citizens" bike race. For example, I participated in the State Timetrail  Championships this past weekend  here in  Colorado.  I did  the 40k in  58:29.  I won the  citizens class in my age and here is where I would have placed in the  Catagories if I had a cycling license:    Cat 5       1st    Cat 4       5 out of 28    Cat 3       17 out of 29    Cat 1/2/pro 20 out of 21 My specialty in tris is cycling so your mileage may vary . . . — LSC

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I think I have more fun learning new training methods than racing sometimes.  I am a triathlete, but I thought the experience of riding with purist cyclists would be fun to share.   —– This insane idea gripped me, and it became an insane reality this week.  I rode with an A+++ ride of a local cycling club.  I went in with humble attitude.  "I’m a triathlete and you guys need to tell me what to do/ not to do, etc…." Well, to be safe I sat in the back of the line (12 of us) for the first few miles.  Suddenly I realized the line was about 200 yards ahead and I was sitting behind a slowpoke.  I dropped him and caught the group. Rule #1:  Keep contact with the fast guys. The lead rider called a right turn so I jumped right immediately, only to find myself having turned early onto a deadend street.  A furious sprint and I caught the line again. Rule #2:  Follow the leader and pay attention.   The pace quickened to a hefty 28-30 mph SUSTAINED.  Now, I am strong cyclist, but in the draft line tucked in tight I was huffing pretty good.  The end of the line was loose and ragged, caused by a nervous rider ahead.  I soon figured out that I needed to move up and maintain a clean line. Rule #3:  Keep bike path straight and predictable. I was now in the third position behind two guys on tribars.  I was tempted to attack (??? right term ???) and drop them, but I figured, hey I am a triathlete too, so I’ll just suck wheel for, oh, another 15 miles or so.   Rule #4:  When near the front, take your pull or you’ll piss people off. Towards the end of the ride I felt fine and fresh in the legs.  Guys attacked every now and then, but I stayed with each one of them.  It was kind of fun. Around corners I remembered the basics: Rule #5:  Approach a corner wide, take it tight and accelerate out. At the end of the ride I outsprinted my two triathlete buddies to the "finish".  The benefit of having drafted for 28.5 miles.  Their response? "We didn’t see you up front."  OK.  I got the message.  See Rule #4. After the ride, the "purists" asked me to ride with them again.  I took it as a very big compliment. Rule #6:  Ride with confidence, not arrogance. I am eagerly awaiting my next ride with them.  It was coooollll man. Pedalin’ fool in NJ, Rolf Arands

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