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After writing my whining missive this morning about not getting into Ironman Canada 2000, I got a couple of e-mails this afternoon telling me that on-line entries would reopen at 4:00pm. Naturally, I had a meeting at 3:30pm that was certain to wear on, so I plopped a credit card, my driver’s license, and my USAT membership card into the hands of a co-worker (new triathlete) and asked him to bang on the server for me. About 5:00pm, I emerged from the meeting and jogged down the hall. He’d been getting "server is busy" messages when he tried to submit my info. But within a minute of my arrival in his office, I saw, "Congratulations, you are now registered for Ironman Canada…." on the screen. RST works a miracle! My, what a down and then up day. I’m normally described as somewhere between taciturn and comatose, but not this afternoon: much blabbing and more to come. To everyone who wrote with consolations, recommendations and (especially) the new registration opening time, my profuse thanks. You’re all wonderful! See you in Penticton. David

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David,     Glad to hear you’re in the race.  See you there!     In my case, I spent several frustrated hours Monday banging on the ActiveUSA site and finally got the entry form through. Jim Kueffner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – See you in Penticton. David

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"Congratulations, you are now registered for Ironman Canada…." on the screen. RST works a miracle!

Congratulations, David. Perseverance and luck prevailed over a lousy system. Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman Canada ‘98 16:17:03 Great Floridian ‘99, 15:??:??

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Mike Pigg will be present during the weekend as our guest speaker at the Pre-race Pasta Dinner, and he will also be at Inside-Out Sports on Saturday, July 17th from 11am to 5pm to answer questions, take pictures and sign autographs. I wonder if Mike is doing the USTS in Atlanta the next day. He won the race last year. Anyone know? David / FEY2K

David: Do you have any information on the USTS race?  I haven’t been able to find anything except a vague reference. Is it the one that was at Lake Lanier? I’m planning to go up to the Smokies that following week for some bike climbing and it might fit in. Thanks, Mike Tennent "IronPenguin" Ironman Canada ‘98 16:17:03

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Do you have any information on the USTS race?  I haven’t been able to find anything except a vague reference. Is it the one that was at Lake Lanier?

The only info I have is from the USTS race application. The race is scheduled for July 18. Yes, it is the one that was held at Lake Lanier last year. If the race is run like last year, you are required to put your bike in transition the day before (during packet pickup). Parking was at a location away from the race. Both participants and spectators were bussed to the race site. I sure hope that the bus transportation works MUCH better than last year! If you have more detailed questions about last year’s race, feel free to post or email me. David / FEY2K (remove spaces) at att dot net

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Just my comment: Problem with transportation at USTS Atlanta last year was mainly caused by people that were not competing in the race. Nothing against having your family with you at the competitions (although they should have been other possibilities like the drop-off option), but the loads of camping gear hawled into the busses was unbelievable (did I see a refrigerator ?). Anyway, the hassle with the delayed start and not arriving in time could have PARTLY been avoided by making the shuttle rides on a "athletes first" basis. trinic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If the race is run like last year, you are required to put your bike in transition the day before (during packet pickup). Parking was at a location away from the race. Both participants and spectators were bussed to the race site. I sure hope that the bus transportation works MUCH better than last year!

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Problem with transportation at USTS Atlanta last year was mainly caused by people that were not competing in the race.

That *PLUS* it was either one of the busses or one of the bus drivers that did not show up… Nothing against having your family with you at the competitions (although they should have been other possibilities like the drop-off option),

I agree. Since our bikes were already there, athletes could have been dropped off. Anyway, the hassle with the delayed start and not arriving in time could have PARTLY been avoided by making the shuttle rides on a "athletes first" basis.

They finally did that by the time I got near a bus. My family did miss not seeing me start, but they did see everything after T1. David / FEY2K (remove spaces) at att dot net

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Speaking of USTS-Atlanta, any of you Tri-Atlanta (or USTS) folks know if they have all their permits etc. lined up and if the race is *definitely* on?    Department of Biology,  University of Alabama at Birmingham             http://www.uab.edu/uabbio/amsler.htm Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Speaking of USTS-Atlanta, any of you Tri-Atlanta (or USTS) folks know if they have all their permits etc. lined up and if the race is *definitely* on?   — Chuck Dept. of Biology, Univ. of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.uab.edu/uabbio/amsler.htm Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Oops…  Well, I’ll waste some additional bandwidth by apologizing for the multiple posts while I got the new Deja News system configured. I wish my UAB news server was more reliable…   — Chuck Dept. of Biology, Univ. of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.uab.edu/uabbio/amsler.htm Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Mike Pigg will be present during the weekend as our guest speaker at the Pre-race Pasta Dinner, and he will also be at Inside-Out Sports on Saturday, July 17th from 11am to 5pm to answer questions, take pictures and sign autographs.

I wonder if Mike is doing the USTS in Atlanta the next day. He won the race last year. Anyone know? David / FEY2K (remove spaces) at att dot net

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No. Mike is recovering from an injury. Keith — Ironman Triathlon Wetsuits Website: www.ironmanwetsuits.com toll free order line: 800-897-6464 international calls: 804-288-6000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike Pigg will be present during the weekend as our guest speaker at the Pre-race Pasta Dinner, and he will also be at Inside-Out Sports on Saturday, July 17th from 11am to 5pm to answer questions, take pictures and sign autographs. I wonder if Mike is doing the USTS in Atlanta the next day. He won the race last year. Anyone know? David / FEY2K (remove spaces) at att dot net

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Race information including on-line registration for the 14th Annual Triangle Triangle on July 18, is now available at the Inside-Out Sports website. The Triangle Triathlon has been one of the top events in the Southeast and promises to be another well-organized, competitive, and fun race this year.  Don’t delay entering, the entry limit was reached early last year! Mike Pigg will be present during the weekend as our guest speaker at the Pre-race Pasta Dinner, and he will also be at Inside-Out Sports on Saturday, July 17th from 11am to 5pm to answer questions, take pictures and sign autographs. For more information log on to the Inside-Out Sports web site at http://www.insideoutsports.com or call the store at 919-755-6202. —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—

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Just had a question for everyone.  Since piercing guns are a big no-no here, when I did an additional lobe pierce 8 weeks ago, I had it done the "acceptable" way. Where all my gunned ones healed in 4-6 weeks, this one is still oozing and producing crusties 8 weeks later.  Could this be a factor because the cbr in there turns more often than a gun stud would have or what?  Would it possibly be better for healing to replace it with a stud?

Well, my friend got her ear pierced with a needle and used a CBR and she also managed to get it infeceted. How? She had a nasty habit of playing with the ring with dirty fingers (she was a bank teller). In your case, I would ask how well you are cleaning your ear. CBRs are easier to clean than studs, but they are also easier to get dirty if you aren’t careful. Are you carefully cleaning after swimming? (<muahaha, I recognize you from rec.sport.triathlon, you’re on my turf now ) Keeping it clean in general and *never* touching the CBR with dirty hands? Crusties after 8 weeks does seem odd, but it is a bit early to give up. In my very non-professional opinion, I doubt a stud would help. You need to figure out what you are doing to your ear and change that. Wendy —          "Life is pain, Highness.  Anyone who says differently              is selling something." — The Princess Bride          

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deads, I’m doing the 1/2 Vineman for the first time this year, and I’m driving from Oakland to the race, very very early race morning. I understand the swim start is a distance from the bike/run transition. does anyone have any suggestions on the most efficient way to drive/setup/park at all the transition areas and still make it to the swim start on time? any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks, mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been a volunteer and participant in the Vineman races for many years. Thank you!  The volunteers at Vineman have always given the race its unique character, and have gone out of their way to make it a fun day for everyone. It is much appreciated. Because I live in Santa Rosa I have always coordinated a ride back out to Guerneville and have never had to take the bus but realize this waiting for that long must be a real drag. Amen.  It’s the last thing you want to do after spending six hours or more out on the course. Two days ago I was at a Vineman meeting and the RD said there will be three buses running continually out to the swim start beginning at 1:00pm.  It usually only takes an hour for the round trip, but during the summer, that road can get backed up. Yup.  An hour and a half, or more, is not unusual on a sunny Saturday afternoon.  I’m glad the RD is addressing the problem, and I appreciate you passing on the information.  However, I must express a bit of scepticism.  I have every confidence that the RD is sincere in his promises and honorable in his intentions, but the execution is sometimes spotty.  Transportation and other logistical assistance has been sincerely promised with all good intentions in the past, and has failed to materialize. Sometimes things just don’t happen as planned.  A driver might call in sick, a bus can break down, a van might get tied up with other duties.  That’s life, and to a certain extent we just have to accept it, but it’s also fair to expect some basic contingency planning.  There are also predictable problems.  Now, I admit I don’t have all the facts and at best I’m just second-guessing, but that said I don’t think the problem has been fixed. With loading and unloading, and normal Saturday traffic, a 90 minute round trip is probably the best that can be expected.  By 1 p.m., the half-IM will have been underway for six hours.  More than half the competitors will have already finished, and people will still be coming in.  Now, it might be nice to assume that people will want to hang out at the finish — it is a lot of fun — but the reality is that you’re hot and tired, and want to get on with your day.  Or at least take a shower and change your clothes.  In other words, bad assumption. So, by 1 p.m., the bus line will, in all likelihood, be long and growing. Three buses will fill up quickly, and any one left and any one who comes in after that will have to wait, in line, until 2:30 or later to get a bus.  When the same thing is likely to happen again.  And now you’re talking 4:00 p.m. People will end up spending an hour or two or more waiting. If traffic snarls, as it frequently does, the wait will be even longer.  This is what happened the last time I did the half-IM, two years ago, and it sounds like what happened at the International distance race this year. There’s also the question of how long the buses are supposed to stick around. The buses are not hired for the duration of the race, and at a certain time they go home.  Vans have been promised in the past, and have failed to materialize.  These are foreseeable problems. Possible fixes — 1.  Start the buses earlier. 2.  Stagger the bus schedule. 3.  Actively encourage and facilitate informal car pools — suggest people going back to the swim start fill up their car before leaving.  Maybe even give a T-shirt to people volunteer to provide rides. 4.  Put water and portajohns next to the bus line. Will pass your message along to the RD for consideration. Thank you again.  I can only speak for myself of course, but I suspect there are plenty of other RST’ers, too, who appreciate what you’re doing.  As for me, I’m not trying to bash the race or the people associated with it.  I enjoyed it in the past and I’m looking forward to doing it again this year.  But I am going to make my own transporation arrangements. See you out there, Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win."  R.A.H.

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I have been a volunteer and participant in the Vineman races for many years.  Because I live in Santa Rosa I have always coordinated a ride back out to Guerneville and have never had to take the bus but realize this waiting for that long must be a real drag.  Two days ago I was at a Vineman meeting and the RD said there will be three buses running continually out to the swim start beginning at 1:00pm.  It usually only takes an hour for the round trip, but during the summer, that road can get backed up.  (After the international, I just told my friend to turn around and I ran the rest of the way to my car.)  Will pass your message along to the RD for consideration. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – doing the 1/2 for the first time.  Did the international last sunday. Had a good race and was well run EXCEPT the bus service back to the start was very poor.  There was only 1 bus when they said there was supposed to be two.  Do not know why, but nothing was done until people (including me) were waiting for a hour.  Trying to get help from the organizers was met with a shrug.. Someone finally came to the bus pickup area after an hour+ waiting to explain what was being done.  He was a very brave soul and was greeted with a lot of angry people. What are they going to do at the vineman july 31 when there are going to be twice as many people??? Are there going to be contigency plans if problems with the bus happens again. Personally I am going to bribe someone to come and watch so we dont have to deal with takgin a bus back to the start. Doubt I will do the vineman series again! I’ll be there! Doing my first 1/2! (Doing the Int. next week too!) -Dan Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver Share what you know. Learn what you don’t. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -deads, I’m doing the 1/2 Vineman for the first time this year, and I’m driving from Oakland to the race, very very early race morning. I understand the swim start is a distance from the bike/run transition. does anyone have any suggestions on the most efficient way to drive/setup/park at all the transition areas and still make it to the swim start on time? any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks, mike

Mike,   to drive in fromOakland on race morning you will have to get up really, really, really early in the morning! When you go to get your packet I suggest you drive from the bike/ run transition to the swim start so you know how long it will take you ( add a little time for race morning traffic) and allow for set up time and warm up. Good luck and good racing!          B.(doing the full)Oliver

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does anyone have any suggestions on the most efficient way to drive/setup/park at all the transition areas and still make it to the swim start on time? any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

be early!!! dropping T2 stuff on the way to the river is going to be more chaotic than usual this year.  the transition area has moved and parking is limitted.   the transition and finish are in a much nicer setting, but we have had to sacrifice a little convience as far as the parking goes. just a warning…. be early

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There was only 1 bus when they said there was supposed to be two.  Do not know why, but nothing was done until people (including me) were waiting for a hour.  Trying to get help from the organizers was met with a shrug.

What you describe is a chronic problem at Vineman.  It’s exactly what happened to me, right down to the shrug, the first time I did the half-IM (I’ve never done the int’l). Other competitors I’ve spoken with, as well as other posters on RST have described similar problems.  Logistics are a serious problem at Vineman, and the only real answer is to bring somebody with you, or race with a team. I haven’t received my registration packet yet for this year’s race, but in the past the Vineman organizers have said that they allow outside assistance on the run course.  That’s because the official support has a tendency to disintegrate as the day and then night wears on.  It’s a particular problem for people doing the full-IM distance.  However, to make it legal, they’d need to get a written waiver of the outside assistance rule from USAT. Things might be different this year, since they’ve added a 50K run that starts at 3:30 p.m. and they’re promising "aid stations every mile" with "fluid replacement drink, Powerbars, PowerGel, fruit, pretzels, ice cold water".  I hope so, anyway. See you out there, Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win."  R.A.H.

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I have been a volunteer and participant in the Vineman races for many years.

Thank you!  The volunteers at Vineman have always given the race its unique character, and have gone out of their way to make it a fun day for everyone. It is much appreciated. Because I live in Santa Rosa I have always coordinated a ride back out to Guerneville and have never had to take the bus but realize this waiting for that long must be a real drag.

Amen.  It’s the last thing you want to do after spending six hours or more out on the course. Two days ago I was at a Vineman meeting and the RD said there will be three buses running continually out to the swim start beginning at 1:00pm.  It usually only takes an hour for the round trip, but during the summer, that road can get backed up.

Yup.  An hour and a half, or more, is not unusual on a sunny Saturday afternoon.  I’m glad the RD is addressing the problem, and I appreciate you passing on the information.  However, I must express a bit of scepticism.  I have every confidence that the RD is sincere in his promises and honorable in his intentions, but the execution is sometimes spotty.  Transportation and other logistical assistance has been sincerely promised with all good intentions in the past, and has failed to materialize. Sometimes things just don’t happen as planned.  A driver might call in sick, a bus can break down, a van might get tied up with other duties.  That’s life, and to a certain extent we just have to accept it, but it’s also fair to expect some basic contingency planning.  There are also predictable problems.  Now, I admit I don’t have all the facts and at best I’m just second-guessing, but that said I don’t think the problem has been fixed. With loading and unloading, and normal Saturday traffic, a 90 minute round trip is probably the best that can be expected.  By 1 p.m., the half-IM will have been underway for six hours.  More than half the competitors will have already finished, and people will still be coming in.  Now, it might be nice to assume that people will want to hang out at the finish — it is a lot of fun — but the reality is that you’re hot and tired, and want to get on with your day.  Or at least take a shower and change your clothes.  In other words, bad assumption. So, by 1 p.m., the bus line will, in all likelihood, be long and growing. Three buses will fill up quickly, and any one left and any one who comes in after that will have to wait, in line, until 2:30 or later to get a bus.  When the same thing is likely to happen again.  And now you’re talking 4:00 p.m.   People will end up spending an hour or two or more waiting. If traffic snarls, as it frequently does, the wait will be even longer.  This is what happened the last time I did the half-IM, two years ago, and it sounds like what happened at the International distance race this year. There’s also the question of how long the buses are supposed to stick around. The buses are not hired for the duration of the race, and at a certain time they go home.  Vans have been promised in the past, and have failed to materialize.  These are foreseeable problems. Possible fixes — 1.  Start the buses earlier. 2.  Stagger the bus schedule. 3.  Actively encourage and facilitate informal car pools — suggest people going back to the swim start fill up their car before leaving.  Maybe even give a T-shirt to people volunteer to provide rides. 4.  Put water and portajohns next to the bus line. Will pass your message along to the RD for consideration.

Thank you again.  I can only speak for myself of course, but I suspect there are plenty of other RST’ers, too, who appreciate what you’re doing.  As for me, I’m not trying to bash the race or the people associated with it.  I enjoyed it in the past and I’m looking forward to doing it again this year.  But I am going to make my own transporation arrangements. See you out there, Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win."  R.A.H.

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I’ll be there! Doing my first 1/2! (Doing the Int. next week too!) -Dan Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver

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doing the 1/2 for the first time.  Did the international last sunday. Had a good race and was well run EXCEPT the bus service back to the start was very poor.  There was only 1 bus when they said there was supposed to be two.  Do not know why, but nothing was done until people (including me) were waiting for a hour.  Trying to get help from the organizers was met with a shrug.. Someone finally came to the bus pickup area after an hour+ waiting to explain what was being done.  He was a very brave soul and was greeted with a lot of angry people. What are they going to do at the vineman july 31 when there are going to be twice as many people??? Are there going to be contigency plans if problems with the bus happens again. Personally I am going to bribe someone to come and watch so we dont have to deal with takgin a bus back to the start. Doubt I will do the vineman series again! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be there! Doing my first 1/2! (Doing the Int. next week too!) -Dan Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’m doing the full for the 1st time .  It will be my first Ironman distance. Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time). Yo!  Doing the 1/2 for the 4th time. — Tri-Baby                                     _                                  -    o     ‘             –  __o       –    </_ `     ‘         –    <         – __/   /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips: http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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Doing the 1/2 for the 7th time,wouldn’t miss it.

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Would love to do that triathlon but don’t participate in events that openly practice "Age Discrimination".    Good luck, be safe and have fun,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                             B.Oliver

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The fat man will be doing the half for the third time! Thanks to the alphabet, I’m the last competitor listed on the web site entry report. Hoping to get close to 6 hours. Go big, Scott Watters Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver

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I’m registered for the half, and looking forward to being there. See you all, Tellus Venture Associates "Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win."  R.A.H.

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I’m registered for the half, and looking forward to being there.

I’ll also be doing the 1/2. My first. clm in sf — Cathy Morgan San Francisco, CA REMOVE ZZ ZZ to e-mail me.

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Hi I am doing the 1/2 for the first time.  I have not registered yet. will probably do so this week. I am anxious to get it done  but my training is difficult to maintain.  I am a little nervous about it.  The hardest part for me will be the run. See you at the race. Ed Reyes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m registered for the half, and looking forward to being there. I’ll also be doing the 1/2. My first. clm in sf — Cathy Morgan San Francisco, CA REMOVE ZZ ZZ to e-mail me.

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I’ll be doing the full – 1st full IM distance… Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver

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I’m doing the 1/2 for the second time. Last year was my first 1/2. Two flats (rear wheel) and leg cramps, but I finished. Looking to beat the hell out of my time from last year. Good luck to all in all the races. Gonzo. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am doing the 1/2 for the first time.  I have not registered yet. will probably do so this week. I am anxious to get it done  but my training is difficult to maintain.  I am a little nervous about it.  The hardest part for me will be the run. See you at the race. Ed Reyes I’m registered for the half, and looking forward to being there. I’ll also be doing the 1/2. My first. clm in sf — Cathy Morgan San Francisco, CA REMOVE ZZ ZZ to e-mail me.

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I’m new here, but I am doing the 1/2 vineman.  It will be my first 1/2, we’ll see what happens…. Shawn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time). Yo!  Doing the 1/2 for the 4th time. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html

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I the wife and daughter will be there. International and 1/2 Vineman.

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Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).

Yo!  Doing the 1/2 for the 4th time. — Tri-Baby                                      _                                   –    o      ’             –  __o       –    </_  `     ‘         –    <         – __/    /o_         – (()) (())        -  / "Real triathletes don’t draft." http://www.stanford.edu/~brooksie *New to triathlon?  Check out Hulaman’s Simple TriTips:  http://www.hulaman.com/triathlon/tritips.html    

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Recieved my Vineman comformation via e-mail a few days ago!!!! Anyone else going? I’ll be doing the full again (for the 4th time).                              B.Oliver

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Great race this year,You should have been there. Record setting

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Hey!  How about some details.  I suffered a compound break of the right forearm during a training ride on June 8–just finished the bone graft.   The half Vineman was one my planned key races.  Any websites with the results?  Thanks. Pat Quigley Phoenix

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Are the results posted anywhere?

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no results aren’t posted on the net yet. They mail the results about three weeks after the race.

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Does anyone know the e-mail address or web address to contact the Vineman race organizers? -Thanks, Bill

clm in sf — Cathy Morgan San Francisco, CA Upcoming Races & Stuff: JANUARY ‘99: SF Half Marathon APRIL: Big Sur Marathon MAY: South Bay Tri JUNE: Vineman International Tri JULY: Vineman Half Ironman AUGUST: Mrs. T’s Chicago Tri

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Does anyone know the e-mail or web address for the Vineman organizers? -Thanks,  Bill

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Does anyone have a Computrainer course profile for Vineman? I couldn’t find one at the Computrainer site.  Thanks.

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Does anyone know the e-mail address or web address to contact the Vineman race organizers? -Thanks, Bill

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Does anyone know the e-mail address or web address to contact the Vineman race organizers? -Thanks, Bill

There is no site. Though I have e-mailed the RD I don’t remember his address. I do have the phone number: 707-528-1630 G’luck, Joe Joe Foster "The idea is to create your own future, and not have it shaped by circumstance." – Peter Thomas

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ENGLISH :Hi, I’m a french boy, a 18 year old french boy, and I am just beggining to discover the triathlon, could you say me where I could find some french, or really good english language Internet site about triathlon, What I’d like more is to find some advice about my training.                                     Ironman. FRANCAIS : Salut, je suis un jeune gars fran

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In September in Great Barrington MA there’s the "Josh Billings Runaground" – Bike, Canoe, Run.   It’s been going for years, and still going strong. …and every July up here in NH, there’s the beefy "Sea-to-Summit" Tri, – Starting in Portsmouth NH Kayak 12 miles, bike 90 to the White Mountains, then 4.2 mile run/hike up to the top of Mt. Washington. It seems there are far less of those canoe/kayak tri’s, but only the ones who could stand the test of time are here, and immensely popular. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a Mt. bike/Road Bike/Run/Canoe-kayak race up here in the Northwest in a month or so.  Looks to be a lot of fun!  Team or Ironperson.  I can email more info if interested. I think there are others around up here, as Seattle is a great place for kayaks and canoes.  I’ll check around. -Laura James http://weber.u.washington.edu/~ljames

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Back in the mid 80’s there were jillions of CANOE triathlons around, even canoe-tri nationals. I search the net now and can’t find a single mention. Do they still exist? I asked this last week. No reply. Hmmmm. From thousands to nothing in a decade. Is it something I said? Thanks for any tips, leads, pointers. PLEASE copy any reply to my email. ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

Jeff, I know where ONE is. Oct. 11, Green Pond, SC – Palmetto Rural Telephone ACE Basin Triathlon & Events, Triathlon (Canoe-10K, XC Run-6K, B-20K); Duathlon (XC Run-6K, B-20K, R-5K); 5K Run, 5K Walk & Recreation Walk; 9am; Airy Hall Plantation; $25/Tri & Duathlon before 9/30, after $35 (add $15 with canoe rental); 2-person teams add $10; 3-4 person teams add $25. Info: Charlie Sweat, POB 1763, Walterboro, SC 29488, (803)549-5591. I got this from the calendar at www.runningnetwork.com and the Running Journal. They have lots of races listed nationwide. Just pick an area of country and check out the list.

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Anyone know of any in Michigan? Or hereabouts? ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll tri ask this again just for grins: Back in the mid 80’s there were jillions of CANOE triathlons around, even canoe-tri nationals. I search the net now and can’t find a single mention. Do they still exist? I asked this last week. No reply. Hmmmm. From thousands to nothing in a decade. Is it something I said? Thanks for any tips, leads, pointers. PLEASE copy any reply to my email. ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

They still do them in Cincinnati.  Morgan’s Tri (6 mile C, 6 mile Run 20 mile bike) is done twice per year (Spring and Fall).  It’s been going on for at least 15 years.  It still draws a large field.   In all, it is a fun race that attract lots of people who wouldn’t do a tri because of swimming. Dave

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[] They still do them in Cincinnati.  Morgan’s Tri (6 mile C, 6 mile Run 20 mile bike) is done twice per year (Spring and Fall).  It’s been going on for at least 15 years.  It still draws a large field. In all, it is a fun race that attract lots of people who wouldn’t do a tri because of swimming.

Do you know what type of canoes/kayaks are used in this event? What the level of competition is like? Does everyone in the top 20 use Kevlar C-1 canoes of the latest superfast design? Or even carbon? Is it an intense event like that? …Also, is it on the river going thru downtown? Details appreciated! Thanks. Please copy reply to private email. ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

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Anyone know of any in Michigan? Or hereabouts? ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

I don’t know if this is coming to your area but, try www.MESP.com, adventure race that has Paddle, mtn. bike, trail run.

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In addition to Morgan’s Triathlon in Morrow, OH, there are canoe tri(s) in West Milton, OH and Pleasant Hill, OH.  Both are about 1-1/2 hours north of Cincinnati. -Todd — Network Engineer                      2000 Eastman Drive 513/576-5886(voice)                   Milford, Ohio 45150 513/576-2998(fax)                     http://www.sdrc.com

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I’ll tri ask this again just for grins: Back in the mid 80’s there were jillions of CANOE triathlons around, even canoe-tri nationals. I search the net now and can’t find a single mention. Do they still exist? I asked this last week. No reply. Hmmmm. From thousands to nothing in a decade. Is it something I said? Thanks for any tips, leads, pointers. PLEASE copy any reply to my email. ***** **"Out Your Backdoor": Magazine of Cheap Adventure and DIY Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with new subscribeable bulletin board chat!

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Hi Everyone, I am relocating to the Bay Area (Lafayette) and will need a Bike Shop, any recommendations? Thanks in advance! Joe Foster

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I am relocating to the Bay Area (Lafayette) and will need a Bike Shop, any recommendations? Thanks in advance!

Joe, Try in Danville,the Pedaler (?) next to Forward Motion, a tri store. (which has a good selection of gear). There is just one road in, it is to the left at the T intersection when you get into town. Michael in my tri class is a mechanic there, and he is helpful, ask for him. Most of the shops in the East Bay are for Mt. bikes. I go out of my way to Saratoga, but when I have stopped in for little things, they seem OK. Keep your eyes open, you may see Wendy Ingraham, she’s in that area frequently. Regards, Lee Rudin San Francisco Bay Area Triathlon Training Sites http://www.slip.net/~leeway/

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NBC’s coverage of the Ironman Triathlon World Championship will air Saturday, December 14, from 1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Eastern.  Please spread the word! The show typically has cleared 97 percent of all local markets.  Please check you local listings or call the NBC station in your area to confirm that your NBC affiliate is planning to air Ironman.   If they are not planning to air the show, complain vigorously to them. Your input does make a difference to the programming managers of theses stations.   Also please e-mail WTC at this address if you determine your local affiliate is not planning to air the show.  We will work with NBC’s affiliate service’s department to attempt to change the decision. Rob Perry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NBC’s coverage of the Ironman Triathlon World Championship will air Saturday, December 14, from 1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Eastern.  Please spread the word! The show typically has cleared 97 percent of all local markets.  Please check you local listings or call the NBC station in your area to confirm that your NBC affiliate is planning to air Ironman. If they are not planning to air the show, complain vigorously to them. Your input does make a difference to the programming managers of theses stations. Also please e-mail WTC at this address if you determine your local affiliate is not planning to air the show.  We will work with NBC’s affiliate service’s department to attempt to change the decision. Rob Perry

Hey Rob, What’s the scoop on the "pre-empting" policy?  Did the Networks learn their lesson last year when the cut up the Ironman for some of the markets?   Have any of them made any promises that the program will be shown in its complete format. John (Did you get a shot me K.

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Can someone tell me what the advantages are of a clip-on and bullhorn bars versus a full aero-bar–like the old Profile version.  The full aero-bar is lighter, offers more hand positions.  Is the drop position (i.e., for out-of-saddle climbing) lower on the full bar than on bullhorns? Thanks, Greg Markus

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Can someone tell me what the advantages are of a clip-on and bullhorn bars  versus a full aero-bar–like the old Profile version.  The full aero-bar  is lighter, offers more hand positions.  Is the drop position (i.e., for  out-of-saddle climbing) lower on the full bar than on bullhorns?

The bullhorn time trial bars are really a throw back to the pre-aerobar days when, while time trialing, the rider would ride with the hands on the bullhorns to get an aerodynamic tuck.  Since the invention of aerobars, multi- sport cyclists really only need non-aero hand positions for climbing, braking and cornering. I find the height of the bullhorn bars to be too low for effective climbing in or out of the saddle, and choose to use a standard road bar instead.  The road bar gives those excellent "on the hoods" and "on the tops" climbing positions, just at the right height.  The drawback is that this is a slightly heavier set-up.  I have seen riders cut off the drops to save weight, though (vintige Mike Pigg. If you really want to get a one-piece that saves weight *and* gives you a good climbing position, check out the QR one- piece.  I believe that it is Ti in construction, and the bull- horns are set higher than the traditional type.  I thing they sell for $295. David F. Monti, Race Results Weekly "Race results by fax first thing every Monday morning…"

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Yeah.  They are cheaper. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can someone tell me what the advantages are of a clip-on and bullhorn bars versus a full aero-bar–like the old Profile version.  The full aero-bar is lighter, offers more hand positions.  Is the drop position (i.e., for out-of-saddle climbing) lower on the full bar than on bullhorns? Thanks, Greg Markus

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Yeah.  They are cheaper. Can someone tell me what the advantages are of a clip-on and bullhorn bars versus a full aero-bar–like the old Profile version.  The full aero-bar is lighter, offers more hand positions.  Is the drop position (i.e., for out-of-saddle climbing) lower on the full bar than on bullhorns? Thanks, Greg Markus

triathlete worth his weight in salt would be caught dead with one of these old beasts.  Gotta be ridin with the newest out there or you just ain’t hip.  By the way, if anyone’s interested I have titanium water bottles for sale.  These babies will go fast, so get your orders in.  By the way, they only come in silver (polished and brushed, of course).

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