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Although I haven’t tried it, something tells me vinegar might work. Get in the shower, pour the stuff over your head and body, let it sit for a second, and then shower as usual. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Paul

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Ruth, if you smell like chlorine, I’ll follow you anywhere. Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guess so or you are dating the wrong women!  All my life I have almost exclusively dated swimmers/triathletes…and it isn’t just for their awesome bodies!  Chlorine scent is FAR more appealing than any cologne.   But then again I also love the smell of fresh tar on a hot summer’s day, gasoline (even the special winter blend they have around here till Feb) and beach balls, so maybe it is just me. -hug(who eschews lotions and special soaps and accepts itchiness as a small price to pay to smell of chlorine – yum!) I can’t believe there’s someone else in this world who sniffs gasoline and fresh tar as I do.  Of course, chlorine is the greatest pheromone in the world. It also signals *home* away from home, always a welcoming smell.  But soaps and perfumes and the like are anathema to me. Ruth Kazez (It’s a lovely white frosty nippy morning here.  I hope everyone is enjoying this season, especially Ken and DE who are season-deprived and are dependent on whatever snowy illusions they can dream up with their laced passion fruit.  As for cointreau and tequila, I’ll take that with my guava, thank you.)

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Use some baking powder on your washcloth or mixed in with your gel soap.  Make sure to use a good body lotion afterward.  Do not use baking soda on your hair…unless you want to be prematurely gray. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Paul

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Chlorine scent is FAR more appealing than any cologne.   But then again I also love the smell of fresh tar on a hot summer’s day, gasoline (even the special winter blend they have around here till Feb) and beach balls, so maybe it is just me.

Where have you been all my life? -hug(who eschews lotions and special soaps and accepts itchiness as a small price to pay to smell of chlorine – yum!)

More fun to scratch.

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I can’t believe there’s someone else in this world who sniffs gasoline and fresh tar as I do.

Acetone, anyone?

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You guys on rst sure do have your cosmetics problems, your soaps and shampoos, depilatories and deodorants, sinus cleansers, ear depluggers, and so on forever.  Tell me, Schwing: before your deflora…umm, how do you make a noun out of deflower – help me out here, Brian

You were headed in the right direction; ‘defloration’ would work, or you could just use ‘deflowering,’ "carnal debut," or any number of other colorful euphemisms.  Hey, why do I always get asked these questions, anyway?

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Where have you been all my life?

Oh, probably spending hours in the pool rather than on the computer arguing on-line <g.  Actually you’ve been rather mellow lately…I’m sure it won’t last long though. BTW, yes, acetone is nice, but Wite Out is nicer – though maybe that contains some acetone? -hug (who was once caught sniffing floor mats and tires at Pep Boys – another customer asked if the tires were scented!)

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Oh, probably spending hours in the pool rather than on the computer arguing on-line <g.

Or in a dumpster somewhere looking for breakfast? Actually you’ve been rather mellow lately…I’m sure it won’t last long though.

I’ve been off line for ten days, but nobody’s said anything egregiously dumb to respond to either.   BTW, yes, acetone is nice, but Wite Out is nicer – though maybe that contains some acetone?

Are you hold enough to remember ditto (mimeograph) machines, and the smell of fresh ditto sheets? -hug (who was once caught sniffing floor mats and tires at Pep Boys – another customer asked if the tires were scented!)

Be still my heart.  Someone told me the auto parts store was the best place to meet quality people.

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You guys on rst sure do have your cosmetics problems, your soaps and shampoos, depilatories and deodorants, sinus cleansers, ear depluggers, and so on forever.  Tell me, Schwing: before your deflora…umm, how do you make a noun out of deflower – help me out here, Brian You were headed in the right direction; ‘defloration’ would work, or you could just use ‘deflowering,’

. . . which is the usage I’ve always seen – ‘Deflowering’

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You guys on rst sure do have your cosmetics problems, your soaps and shampoos, depilatories and deodorants, sinus cleansers, ear depluggers, and so on forever.  Tell me, Schwing: before your deflora…umm, how do you make a noun out of deflower – help me out here, Brian You were headed in the right direction; ‘defloration’ would work, or you could just use ‘deflowering,’ . . . which is the usage I’ve always seen – ‘Deflowering’

Yes, but why am I always the one asked these questions?

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I can’t be all bad.  Today at the office about 1 hour out of the pool I was standing with a group when someone commented "what’s that smell, it smells like a candle" After a long pause someone else said "No it smells like a pool"  —  I confessed. Not sure what the solution is so you might as well get used to it.

and don’t discount the fact that some chicks dig it. — f otINOKYad

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and don’t discount the fact that some chicks dig it. — f otINOKYad

Hmmm, in my 15 years of swimming and 10 years of triathlon, I’ve never had a woman compliment me on my chlorine tablet smell. I must be living in the wrong area then. Iron Pete "Eau de Chlorine anyone?" Priolo

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Ultra Swim makes a liquid soap product called Ultra Swim Shower Gel. I use every day. It helps immensely to rid the chlorine aroma. ….. I still find the need to use Lubriderm all over after a swim/shower,

 ….yadda yadda yadda. You guys on rst sure do have your cosmetics problems, your soaps and shampoos, depilatories and deodorants, sinus cleansers, ear depluggers, and so on forever.  Tell me, Schwing: before your deflora…umm, how do you make a noun out of deflower – help me out here, Brian…anyhow, before your bmw awakening, were cosmetics a problem or are these the concerns of maturity for which I must look forward. Ruth "toujours au naturel" Kazez

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Grapefruit extract, eh? So it’s not just for fat-burning anymore! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Try a shampoo with grapefruit extract. I used it at the recommendation of my er, well, OK, hairdresser, to get rid of the chlorine from my hair; worked admirably as a body wash, too. Marc R

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And here I thought women wanted a sensitive guy. Must not have been sensitive skin they were talking about. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ultra Swim makes a liquid soap product called Ultra Swim Shower Gel. I use every day. It helps immensely to rid the chlorine aroma. ….. I still find the need to use Lubriderm all over after a swim/shower,  ….yadda yadda yadda. You guys on rst sure do have your cosmetics problems, your soaps and shampoos, depilatories and deodorants, sinus cleansers, ear depluggers, and so on forever.  Tell me, Schwing: before your deflora…umm, how do you make a noun out of deflower – help me out here, Brian…anyhow, before your bmw awakening, were cosmetics a problem or are these the concerns of maturity for which I must look forward. Ruth "toujours au naturel" Kazez

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Ultra Swim makes a liquid soap product called Ultra Swim Shower Gel. I use every day. It helps immensely to rid the chlorine aroma. (I kind of like the smell though).

I thought I was the only one. I don’t exactly love the smell, but it’s as close as you can get to the pool without actually going to the pool.  

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if you take a good shower before you swim,  your skin won’t suck up all that chlorinated water in the pool.  it helps todd sandiego

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Hmmm, in my 15 years of swimming and 10 years of triathlon, I’ve never had a woman compliment me on my chlorine tablet smell. I must be living in the wrong area then.

Guess so or you are dating the wrong women!  All my life I have almost exclusively dated swimmers/triathletes…and it isn’t just for their awesome bodies!  Chlorine scent is FAR more appealing than any cologne.   But then again I also love the smell of fresh tar on a hot summer’s day, gasoline (even the special winter blend they have around here till Feb) and beach balls, so maybe it is just me. -hug(who eschews lotions and special soaps and accepts itchiness as a small price to pay to smell of chlorine – yum!)

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That’s right, and we wouldn’t have to use so much chlorine either. Ken,swims in the ocean,DaVico

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if you take a good shower before you swim,  your skin won’t suck up all that chlorinated water in the pool.  it helps todd sandiego

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Guess so or you are dating the wrong women!  All my life I have almost exclusively dated swimmers/triathletes…and it isn’t just for their awesome bodies!  Chlorine scent is FAR more appealing than any cologne.   But then again I also love the smell of fresh tar on a hot summer’s day, gasoline (even the special winter blend they have around here till Feb) and beach balls, so maybe it is just me. -hug(who eschews lotions and special soaps and accepts itchiness as a small price to pay to smell of chlorine – yum!)

I can’t believe there’s someone else in this world who sniffs gasoline and fresh tar as I do.  Of course, chlorine is the greatest pheromone in the world. It also signals *home* away from home, always a welcoming smell.  But soaps and perfumes and the like are anathema to me. Ruth Kazez (It’s a lovely white frosty nippy morning here.  I hope everyone is enjoying this season, especially Ken and DE who are season-deprived and are dependent on whatever snowy illusions they can dream up with their laced passion fruit.  As for cointreau and tequila, I’ll take that with my guava, thank you.)

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Ultra Swim makes a liquid soap product called Ultra Swim Shower Gel. I use every day. It helps immensely to rid the chlorine aroma. (I kind of like the smell though). I’d say it has a 90 % effectiveness rate, as if I begin sweating I can sometimes get a slight whiff of pool water but not at all like if I just use regular soap. I still find the need to use Lubriderm all over after a swim/shower, no matter what I do. In fact, my back is itching right now because it is the only spot I can’t get the Ultra Swim and Lubriderm to. As Ken said, check out the chlorine content of your pool. The pool where I swim goes very easy on the chlorine yet the smell is still there on the skin. Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Paul

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Perhaps you need to question the chlorine content of the pool. Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Paul

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I can’t be all bad.  Today at the office about 1 hour out of the pool I was standing with a group when someone commented "what’s that smell, it smells like a candle" After a long pause someone else said "No it smells like a pool"  —  I confessed. Not sure what the solution is so you might as well get used to it. Wayne

| I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower | regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean | and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? | Thanks. | | Paul |

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I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks. Paul

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I can’t get rid of the chlorine smell for two days after a swim. I shower regularly, but it seems to take 2-3 showers before I smell fresh and clean and rid of chlorine. Can anyone suggest something besides sandblasting? Thanks.

Try a shampoo with grapefruit extract. I used it at the recommendation of my er, well, OK, hairdresser, to get rid of the chlorine from my hair; worked admirably as a body wash, too. Marc R

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thanks for the info I found him in Az. Shane K. Pule, NREMT-P

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Brian Stover, from High Point NC, Where the hell are you? Shane Pule Baltimore, MD Shane K. Pule, NREMT-P

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Brian Stover, from High Point NC, Where the hell are you? Shane Pule Baltimore, MD Shane K. Pule, NREMT-P

Shane, the last any of us here in Raleigh, NC heard about Brian was that he had moved out somewhere in the southwest and was working on "finding himself".  He reportedly either quit, or took a break from, triathlon. He was a pretty tough age grouper around here back in the day… Hope this helps. John Royal Raleigh, NC Before you buy.

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I am not sure about the original question, but I dont think it was about discomfort due to cold, at least in the way understood by tri-ing. I havent had problems running in the fog. If you are talking about breathing problems because of phlegm accumulation, you are right. It can be annoying, and one has to be careful when blowing the nose. The blood vessels get to be like ripe tomatoes and nose bleeds in the middle of nowhere are not happy. But no permanent damage, and once you are through the seasonal change, it gets better. I hope that was relevant…

<snip As for the foggy weather…it’s never stopped me. Only ice storms stop me from running outside. I did a half hour on the treadmill the other day that reminded me why I run through rain and snow and fog and cold temps. Treadmill=death by boredom. Hi, Please help me with the following. 1/ Is it ok to run when the weather is foggy?

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Now this _is_ interesting. The only time I ever have trouble breathing is when the air is very dry, as it is here in the Northeast in the winter. My nose dries up and bleeds. However, running in foggy, moisture laden air is music to my ears, respiration wise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am not sure about the original question, but I dont think it was about discomfort due to cold, at least in the way understood by tri-ing. I havent had problems running in the fog. If you are talking about breathing problems because of phlegm accumulation, you are right. It can be annoying, and one has to be careful when blowing the nose. The blood vessels get to be like ripe tomatoes and nose bleeds in the middle of nowhere are not happy. But no permanent damage, and once you are through the seasonal change, it gets better. I hope that was relevant… <snip As for the foggy weather…it’s never stopped me. Only ice storms stop me from running outside. I did a half hour on the treadmill the other day that reminded me why I run through rain and snow and fog and cold temps. Treadmill=death by boredom. Hi, Please help me with the following. 1/ Is it ok to run when the weather is foggy? <snip

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2/ I give blood regurarly. Not just plasma but the red cells too. Every 3 months. How should this affect my training?

I used to do the same, thinking it was good for the recipients, and me. WRONG!  They say you can give that regularly, but I got anemic and required iron supplements for 1.5 years to get my iron level up, again.  The doctor who tested me, also the head of the NY Blood Service for the Red Cross said once a year at the most.  Good luck, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Hi, Please help me with the following. 1/ Is it ok to run when the weather is foggy?

Yes it is, but keep a sharp eye out for drivers who may not see you on the road. During the daytime, even the reflective vest’s effectiveness is reduced, so beware. 2/ I give blood regurarly. Not just plasma but the red cells too. Every 3 months. How should this affect my training? Thanx

As said in another post, my heart rate also rises for that week after donating. I tend do donate after the last triathlon of the season so that it doesn’t affect my training.                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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2/ I give blood regurarly. Not just plasma but the red cells too. Every 3 months. How should this affect my training?

Since starting triathlon, I have been a regular donor of blood, as I am AB+ and on a hot list. I donate 3 or 4 times a year, with no major repercussions, except for feeling a bit dehydrated shortly after my donation. Now this might not be the case for many, but for the record, I weigh in around 180-200 depending on the season, and my training, so I am not a little fast kid. Rob — Rob Blomquist aka TriDog Seattle, WA http://www2.jps.net/~robbo

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Hi, Please help me with the following. 1/ Is it ok to run when the weather is foggy? 2/ I give blood regurarly. Not just plasma but the red cells too. Every 3 months. How should this affect my training? Thanx

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Regarding giving blood – I give somewhat regularly, and notice that my heart rate is nearly 10 beats/minute higher for about a week after donating, and that I do not have nearly the same ability to do high intensity training for about 10 days or so, but regular old endurance paces aren’t affected much, I just slow my pace down to match what would otherwise be a normal target heart rate. As for the foggy weather…it’s never stopped me. Only ice storms stop me from running outside. I did a half hour on the treadmill the other day that reminded me why I run through rain and snow and fog and cold temps. Treadmill=death by boredom. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Please help me with the following. 1/ Is it ok to run when the weather is foggy? 2/ I give blood regurarly. Not just plasma but the red cells too. Every 3 months. How should this affect my training? Thanx

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Thanks, Pete! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anybody know the prevailing winds/temperatures and temp of lake Taupo? Lake Taupo is located over an active geothermal layer, so I can guess that the water temps are warm. The average temps for the venue are located here: http://www.laketaupo.tourism.co.nz/weather.html                          |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                 "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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www.ironmanoz.com All you need and 100 Hawaii slots as well

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Does anybody know the dates and how many iq slots these races are offering for 1999?  Any help is most appreciated. Thanks bunches. Ray

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IMOZ will be held on 2 May and offers 100 IMH slots. IMNZ is on 7 March – but I’m not sure about the number of slots available.   Something in the order of 75-80 I think. Todd says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anybody know the dates and how many iq slots these races are offering for 1999?  Any help is most appreciated.

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IMOZ will be held on 2 May and offers 100 IMH slots. IMNZ is on 7 March – but I’m not sure about the number of slots available. Something in the order of 75-80 I think.

Try http://www.ironman.co.nz/ Todd says… Does anybody know the dates and how many iq slots these races are offering for 1999?  Any help is most appreciated.

– Jeff Cook At work: Phone:+64-9-424 5388 At home: Phone:  +64-9-424 0336

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IMNZ is on 7 March – but I’m not sure about the number of slots available. Something in the order of 75-80 I think.

It’s March 6th (yes, a Saturday).  There are 70 IMH slots. – Art

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Does anybody know the prevailing winds/temperatures and temp of lake Taupo? Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IMNZ is on 7 March – but I’m not sure about the number of slots available. Something in the order of 75-80 I think. It’s March 6th (yes, a Saturday).  There are 70 IMH slots. – Art

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Does anybody know the prevailing winds/temperatures and temp of lake Taupo?

Lake Taupo is located over an active geothermal layer, so I can guess that the water temps are warm. The average temps for the venue are located here: http://www.laketaupo.tourism.co.nz/weather.html                           |26      | IMC’96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC ‘99 IMC’97: 10:42:53          |        |                  "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

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Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Does anyone know if this race is happening this year?  I did it last year and, although the water was frigid and the bike and run courses were more like mountain climbing, the setting was beautiful and, on balance, the race was a great time.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

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There are plenty of places that rent bikes, but you may want to call ahead to pre-arrange; I doubt they’d be open early enough on race morning. You may end up with a one-gear, coaster brake bike, if that’s okay for you.

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    Am planning on doing this sprint distance tri on Nov.7. I’m not competitive so hoping to rent a bike there. Has anyone done this one or have any info.  Thanks

i used to go to this race every year, it was my favorite.  i don’t go any longer, as the catalina island folks, i.e., the city of avalon the chamber of commerce, essentially took the race from the founder & race director, bill fulton (who also produces the LA triathlon series bonelli park races, and others). i was deeply offended by this.  there is alot more i could say, as i have been involved since 1992 in various processes that would help mediate a solution. as producer of the Bally TF USTS series races i have the opportunity to deal with communities around the US, and IMHO catalina is stridently the most egregious in their wanton disregard for those who come from outside their community with a plan– eagerly accepted by catalina– only to somehow end up with ownership of the property once it has become successful. the triathlon is the second time it has happened, it occurred to hans albrecht and the catalina marathon as well. therefore, i wouldn’t sponsor, enter, watch, or be involved in this race if it was the last race on earth.  i likewise have a low regard for the various parties who’ve produced this event on a contract basis for catalina, and i wish such parties would have more spine and honor. qrman

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Going to be in Texas this summer and plan on going to Lubbock for Buffalo Springs.  Any info would be greatly appreciated, especially about the course itself. Thanks- Chase

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Going to be in Texas this summer and plan on going to Lubbock for Buffalo Springs.  Any info would be greatly appreciated, especially about the course itself.

Just got my application in the mail on Friday.  The entry fee has jumped from $45 last year to $75 this year.  So much for the "best value in triathlon", Mike Greer’s plugging point for the past several years. As for the course expect heat, wind, and hills.  It a pretty good race I have done it each year since it has been a half.  I will be there also, email if you want more specific information Todd Thanks- Chase

– Todd Gerlach IBM Austin AIX Support Team                    __o       o    

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (TUCKERNEW) writes: A.J. I’ll be at both and will look out for you.  I’m assuming that our Multi-Sport School of Champions training will have prepared us for these races.  I look forward to comparing notes with you races days. Tucker Newberry Is anyone keeping a list of RSTers going to Columbia?  I plan on being there, though racing it is yet to be determined.  What’s the lake temp – anyone know? -hug

I stop by the lake the other day during lunch, it was real cold. I will take my thermometer over there later this week and post the results. It is ashallow lake and can warm up quickly if we get some sun this week. TriRef aka Bruce Platt

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Is anyone keeping a list of RSTers going to Columbia?  I plan on being there, though racing it is yet to be determined.  

I’ll be there, hoping I’ve done enough in the last two months to get in shape for it.                                         — John — John Walker        Jackson & Tull Chartered Engineers, Seabrook, Maryland WWW URL:   http://xenon.stanford.edu/~walker  

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I am racing at Columbia Maryland on May 18, Virginia on the 25th,and June 1 for the Ironman Qualifier (1/2 Iron Man) is anyone else going to be at these races?                                                   Tri-Freak                         Swim – Bike – Run : What else is there?

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I am racing at Columbia Maryland on May 18, Virginia on the 25th,and June 1 for the Ironman Qualifier (1/2 Iron Man) is anyone else going to be at these races?                                                 Tri-Freak                         Swim – Bike – Run : What else is there?

I’ll be at Columbia! (so no drafting!) TriRef

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A.J. I’ll be at both and will look out for you.  I’m assuming that our Multi-Sport School of Champions training will have prepared us for these races.  I look forward to comparing notes with you races days. Tucker Newberry

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(TUCKERNEW) writes: A.J. I’ll be at both and will look out for you.  I’m assuming that our Multi-Sport School of Champions training will have prepared us for these races.  I look forward to comparing notes with you races days. Tucker Newberry

Is anyone keeping a list of RSTers going to Columbia?  I plan on being there, though racing it is yet to be determined.  What’s the lake temp – anyone know? -hug

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Has anyone gotten their Columbia triathlon entry form for the May race?             Harry

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No – Robert sent them out one year presorted third class, but learned his lesson. We’ll probably see them by the end of the month. If you were there last year, don’t worry … you’ll get one. PRAY FOR COLD WEATHER

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If you’re talking about Columbia, MD, I got mine!!!!  I’ll probably be one of the first, living about 3/4 mile from the course, so don’t despair, they’re on the way! BTW, since this is my first Columbia race, I don’t know if I should check of Age Group or Open.  Is there an advantage to either?  Just a note, I don’t plan on taking home any trophies, maybe a war wound or two, but definitely no wining times. Paul Gimbel "Try-Athlete"

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Don’t say pray for cold weather!! I did one in May, 1991 and it was so cold, they allowed help in the bike to run transition, as the athletes were frozen onto their $3000 seats

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DAN O’BRIEN, DECATHLON GOLD MEDAL WINNER AT THE 1996 OLYMPICS,…considered presently the world’s greatest athlete, has discovered a superfood which helped him get to the top and will help others as well …if you are involved with pro or amateur sports, marathons, the olympics or just want to experience the winner’s edge in life please read the following:

are you sure that dan doesn’t *smoke* the algae instead of eating it? According to computer data bases certain algaes are the most nutrious foods on the planet… Athletes, trainers and coaches are starting to discover this fact:

some of us have already discovered it….THERE ARE NO MAGIC PILLS!!! please keep this cruft off this (non-commercial) newsgroup /mdkail

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Would the original poster of this thread, please post what reffereed(sp) medical journals I can read about any sort of peer reviewed clinical studies of SBG????? Sean McDonald

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Would the original poster of this thread, please post what reffereed(sp) medical journals I can read about any sort of peer reviewed clinical studies of SBG????? Sean McDonald

        the science citation index notes 11 titles including the word         `APHANIZOMENON’ in the years 1994-1996.         looking at the titles and abstracts (where available) none         support the idea that this is the `perfect food’.  they tend to         be papers by people studying lakes or the effect of these         algae on marine life.         andrew —            work phone/fax: 0131 668 8356, office: 0131 668 8357     institute for astronomy, royal observatory, blackford hill, edinburgh                      http://www.roe.ac.uk/ajcwww

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Would the original poster of this thread, please post what reffereed(sp) medical journals I can read about any sort of peer reviewed clinical studies of SBG????? Sean McDonald

        searching the science citation index for title/abstracts         including `nutrition’ `algae’ and `blue’, i found the following         which         "discusses the potential implications of these results for         human nutrition applications"         `these results’ being that rats eating the specified algae         seemed to get along just fine.  also… "Compositional analyses         of Cyanothece sp. strain ATCC 51142 showed high protein (50-60%)         and low fat (0.4-1%) content, and the ability to synthesize         vitamin B-12. The amino acid profile indicated that Cyanothece         sp. was a balanced protein source. Fatty acids of the 18:3n-3         type were also present. Mineral analyses indicated the cellular         biomass may be a good source of Fe, Zn, and Na."         the paper is called         compositional and toxicological evaluation of the diazotrophic         cyanobacterium, cyanothece sp strain atcc-51142         and it can be found in Aquaculture, 1995, Vol.134, No.3-4,         pp.339-349         the first author is M A Schneegurt.         as an astronomer i don’t have access to `Aquaculture’.  nor am i         supposed to forward detailed results from the index (which we         pay to access) so that’s all the data i think i can give…  (i’m         not the original poster – just wondering what this is all about).         andrew —            work phone/fax: 0131 668 8356, office: 0131 668 8357     institute for astronomy, royal observatory, blackford hill, edinburgh                      http://www.roe.ac.uk/ajcwww

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   the science citation index notes 11 titles including the word    `APHANIZOMENON’ in the years 1994-1996.    looking at the titles and abstracts (where available) none    support the idea that this is the `perfect food’.  they tend to    be papers by people studying lakes or the effect of these    algae on marine life.

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Wait!…*mmph..gbll..chomp*…I haven’t finished my bee pollen or catepillar fungus yet!!..*mmmrphslfid* ..and I thought those were hard to swallow!

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Yes some algaes are toxic but many are eatible…SBG Algae has been harvested and eaten for 14 years and native Indians have been eating it before that …if you want some scientific info on this strain of algae I recommend Prof. Karl Abrams book listed below: AFA or SBG Algae is tested by labs in the US and is toxin free… Dr. Karl J. Abrams,  a tenured professor of Chemistry at Saddleback College in Orange County,  California. ..he has taught chemistry more than twenty years and is the author of a successful chemistry textbook and numerous articles on chemical education.  While studying chemistry as an undergraduate, Abrams did research at Stanford Medical School… As well as teaching college chemistry…He has spent two years travelling around the country lecturing on drug synthesis techniques. Since then he has abandoned that approach in favor of nutritional research to explain the powerful healing properties of Aphanizomenon flos-aquae from Upper Klamath Lake. ..He is the author of the recent book ‘Algae to the Rescue’ . Abrams gives lectures and conducts seminars on the nutritional benefits of blue green algae.  He may be contacted through Logan House Publications…818-763-0405 or 763-0402 fax  or 800-888-0799 to order his book.

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Pass the worm doo-doo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wait!…*mmph..gbll..chomp*…I haven’t finished my bee pollen or catepillar fungus yet!!..*mmmrphslfid* ..and I thought those were hard to swallow!

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DAN O’BRIEN, DECATHLON GOLD MEDAL WINNER AT THE 1996 OLYMPICS,…considered presently the world’s greatest athlete, has discovered a superfood which helped him get to the top and will help others as well …if you are involved with pro or amateur sports, marathons, the olympics or just want to experience the winner’s edge in life please read the following: According to computer data bases certain algaes are the most nutrious foods on the planet…Athletes, trainers and coaches are starting to discover this fact: The following is Dan’s testimonial as well as others: DAN O’BRIEN:  Dan eats 25 to 30 capsules of SBG Algae a day and relies on Enzymes, Acidophilus, Bifidus and  Super Q10 to get get the greatest nutritional benefit from his food. "The product is really important to me. It helps me physically, and that physical/emotional edge is something every athlete wants," he says. "When I eat Algae during a decathlon, even if I don’t eat anything else, I know I’ve got something that’s going to keep giving back to me." Dan lives near Klamath Lake, Oregon, where SBG Algae is harvested. HARRESON MARTELL: PROFESSIONAL TRIATHLETE; WORLD STAIR CLIMBING CHAMPION; U.B.C. TRIATHLON CHAMPION; COMMONWEALTH  GAMES – TRIATHLON TEAM MEMBER: Harreson participated in the World Stair Climbing Championship, A United fundraising event attracted 2,000 athletes. Harreson took 30 capsules of Alpha Sun 2 hours before the event and says: I had so much energy I thought I was going to run right through the roof. I was so psyched up; I was charged! Then, two minutes before the race I took a half bottle of the liquid brain food (Omega) under the tongue and held it there. The brain food put me in just the right frame of mind." Harreson explains that "often when athletes get psyched up for a race or competion, they have so much energy that it just gets diffused all over the place like a shotgun. But I was fined-tuned, sharpened…like a relaxed intensity. I won the race!" Harreson finds that the algae keeps away the "Bonk" – the overwehelming craving for food that athletes experience when their blood sugar drops. He says he has better endurance and that even with 6 hours workouts – 1 hour swimming, 4 hours cycling, 1 hour running – he still doesn’t need to eat as often now that he’s on the algae. Harreson recomends the algae for stimulating the immune system "so you don’t get susceptible to colds or flus or sickness. When your’re working out very hard and very often, you’re literally tearing your body down so that you can build it up again. As you’re breaking your ody down, your’re just on the border-line of being sick. I like having the algae because it keeps me from going over that edge." Harreson says: "The algae is the most powerful food on the planet: all the computer data says it, all the experts say it, and I’ve experinced it…There is nothing of greater nutritional value than the algae and as a athlete…it only makes sense to eat the most nutrious food available. At the Indy 500 the race cars use only the best gasoline; as a human and as a athlete, I only want to use the best fuel in this machine."  SBG Algae, is one of the most complete wild grown foods available on earth. Harvested from one particular mineral rich, pristine lake, this food stands unique in providing essential nutrients in the right proportions for our bodies, nutrients which have become drastically depleted from our soils, and hence our foods. SBG Algae is rich in all essential amino acids, minerals and trace elements, chlorphyll, glycogen, lipids, most vitamins including B12, Beta Carotene, vegetable protein, and neuropeptides which nourish the brain and nervous system. The algae is freeze-dried to protect the beneficial enzymes and heat sensitve vitamins. Many athletes and others who consume this completely natural food report dramatic results in health and almost everyone speaks of increased "balanced" energy, mental clarity, and greater stamina and endurance.  Health  Care  Professionals  Endorsing  SBG Algae Dr. Karl J. Abrams,  a tenured professor of Chemistry at Saddleback College in Orange County,  California. ..he has taught chemistry more than twenty years and is the author of a successful chemistry textbook and numerous articles on chemical education.  While studying chemistry as an undergraduate, Abrams did research at Stanford Medical School…He is the author of the recent book ‘Algae to the Rescue’ . Abrams gives  lectures and conducts seminars on the nutritional benefits of Aphanizomenon flos-aquae, a blue green algae from upper Klamath Lake.  He may be contacted through Logan House Publications…818-763-0405 or 763-0402 fax or 800-888-0799 to order his book. Dr. Michael Klapper, M.D. is a practicing physician specializing in the pioneering field of nutritional medicine. He is a well-known author and lecturer, advocate of conscious food choices and scientific adviser to John Robins (author of Diet For A New America). Dr. Jeffery Millman, M.D. a family practice physician and author of the "Clinical Observations of Super Blue Green Algae." Dr. David Markowitz, M.D.,M.P.H. is a practicing pediatrician of fifteen years from Kennebunk, Maine with a Masters of Public Health Degree from John Hopkins. He states, "The algae has changed my life in immeasurable ways. I have now recommended the algae to friends, family and patients with very positive results." Dr. Joseph Maddox, M.D. is a practising chiropractor and Nutritional Consultant in St. Petersburg, Florida. He is a former professor of Organic Chemistry, Epidemiology, Endcrinolgy and Physiology to more than 2,000 Chiropractic Doctors-In Training. Dr. Tim O’Connor is a practicing chiropractor with offices in the Phonex metropolitan area. His unique tape,"A Doctor’s View of America’s Health" of "The O’Connor Tape" discusses the need for nutritional support in to-day’s society. Dr. Joel Swabb, P.H.D. established the first Ohio Biofeedback Stress Control Center in association with a family practise medical doctor. In addition, Dr. Swabb has trained physicians and nurses and worked with thousands of patients in continuing education courses in the art/science of clinical stress training and stress management. Dr. Frank Wm. Varese, M.D. Director, Health Associates, Laguna Hills, Calif. He states, "I can truthfully say that finding out about blue-green algae has been the greatest discovery of my entire professional career..this amazing natural food contains all the nutrients needed for a health body." Dr. William Barry, P.H.D. Professor of Biology and Public Health (ret.) University of Montana, Arizona State University and Gonzaga University…He has 74 publications including "A Definitive Treatment of Aphanizomenon Flos-aquae" (the scientific name for SBG Algae). He says, this particular algae "contains all eight essential and also ten other non-essential amino acids"…is an ideal source of abundant Betacarotene…inorganic minerals,…proteins, essential trace elements, B12, chlorophyll and nine vitamins. Dr. Barry states: amino acids,"are necessary for proper biochemical cellular function. Algae then, serve as a whole food with a broader spectrum of food essentials than nearly any other product." This quote is from his book, "The Astonishing, Magnificent, Delightful Algae." If you wish to test this superfood yourself please leave a reply to the e-mail address provided and information will be e-mailed you on how to order…There is no risk.as there is complete customer satisfaction for 30 days or 60 days for distributors…multi-level commissions payable  to athletes and coaches and others who wish to endorse this remarkable product with friends etc.

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Great interview in Triathlete this month with Mark Allen, Scott Tinley, Scott Molina, and Dave Scott.  They’re all together in Boulder. Read it. They do a fair amount of complaining about ITU, TriFEd/USA, and the Pro organization. My Reaction:  Ok men, what are *you* doing to fix things.  Stating               opinions in an interview don’t cut it.  Are any of you               taking leadership roles in any of these organzations?               Wouldn’t it be nice to see some of these guys on the               TriFed board? — LSC (aka Larry Chapman)    (303) 229-3117

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[stuff on Tinley, Molina, etc. interview deleted] Unfortunately that seems a common tendency.  Complain with the expectation that someone else will do the work of making the change. Sigh. Rolf Arands

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great interview in Triathlete this month with Mark Allen, Scott Tinley, Scott Molina, and Dave Scott.  They’re all together in Boulder. Read it. They do a fair amount of complaining about ITU, TriFEd/USA, and the Pro organization. My Reaction:  Ok men, what are *you* doing to fix things.  Stating          opinions in an interview don’t cut it.  Are any of you          taking leadership roles in any of these organzations?          Wouldn’t it be nice to see some of these guys on the          TriFed board? — LSC (aka Larry Chapman)   (303) 229-3117

I agree – they seem to have a lot to say about what’s wrong with the sport, but nothing really worthwhile was reported about how to fix things or what they were doing to help the sport improve.  Of course, these things may have been editted from the article.   BTW, the pros at U.S Swim & Fitness were not leaving early, as Mark Allen implies.  I watched the start and the timer held back each person until it was their time to swim (individual pros started 15 seconds apart). Todd Jensen                                  o AT&T Bell Labs             ___^o_    __o    <| (708) 979-1254                     _ <_    

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